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lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.11.23 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: lyrenna on 23/11/2007 05:43:42
Originally by: arbalesttom Anyone able to give a linkage to the skill requirements for the hyena? Cant find it, and im verry interested in it
matar frig 5 and electronic upgrades 5 with new eas skill i think.
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TimMc
Skiddies of Doom
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:10:00 -
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1. Post with your main.
2. Stop trolling.
3. Hyena's damage sucks too bad to be anything dangerous in solo PvP.
4. If you are solo'ing with a nanoship against gangs, you deserve to die.
5. If you are gang'ing with a nanoship against gangs, this ship will be primary.
So shut up.
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Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eas Leli Edited by: Eas Leli on 23/11/2007 00:39:54 I trust the dev who also made such inciteful blog remarks as the sentinels 3x frigate neuts being a "signficant threat to battleships." He 'gets' PVP!
Someone said that? What a epic win quote.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
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Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc 1. Post with your main.
2. Stop trolling.
3. Hyena's damage sucks too bad to be anything dangerous in solo PvP.
4. If you are solo'ing with a nanoship against gangs, you deserve to die.
5. If you are gang'ing with a nanoship against gangs, this ship will be primary.
So shut up.
1. You should first. Unless your nobody corp is actually real hahaha
2. No never
3. Well obviously. So what.
4. Fighting against gangs? I think you'll find this ship is amazingly good and efficient at neutuering the only effective asset that nanoships have to avoid fighting gangs chasing them. In fact that's the point. Say goodbye to the nano-Ishtar among others.
5. Well of course it will be primary. Just like Scorpions were always primary in fleet battles in the days when it could perma-jam 3 battleships. It's stupidly powerful.
This forum is obssessed with nano ships.
It has nothing to do with nanoships. It affects a lot more than nanoships.
Truly this thread demonstrates everything you'll ever need to know about the game knowledge of most people who post here.
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Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mortuus Yes, of course. Medium guns cannot track ships moving at 5km/s...please continue thinking this way.
God I love watching interceptors go into a high fast orbit around my Hurricane....and then explode.
You're shooting some slow interceptors.
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Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kuzya Morozov
Originally by: Slash Harnet before this thread gets locked, will someone post the current slot layout?
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Hyena
With 200 points on shield, armor, structure, it has almost no tank, and since you're sacrificing lows for speed, mids for tackle, even more so. So personally I think OP is an idiot.
No you're just a newb. Speed is a tank. Welcome to EVE and the concept of tracking speed and missile explosion velocity.
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Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Eas Leli on 23/11/2007 09:39:53
Originally by: Berrik Radhok oh no a hyena webbed my zealot oh hey what do these buttons do oops goodbye hyena
You better hope that hyena pilot is as bad at pvp as your alliance.
If he figures out transversal and finds the orbit button you might have a problem!
Still even if you kill him, since Hyena's are cheap compared to t2 cruisers and easy to train into, there's probably others in the gang, and he probably considers it a worthwhile trade to kill a 90m HAC.
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom Anyone able to give a linkage to the skill requirements for the hyena? Cant find it, and im verry interested in it
Electronics upgrades 5, racial frig 5 + EAS skill when it's spawned.
if you can fly recons, you can fly baby-recons.
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 23/11/2007 09:46:03
Originally by: Eas Leli Still even if you kill him, since Hyena's are cheap compared to t2 cruisers and easy to train into, there's probably others in the gang, and he probably considers it a worthwhile trade to kill a 90m HAC.
expect a fitted Hyena to cost between 25 and 30 million after the Secret Cabal Of Inventors have fixed the price.
now add rigs and stuff, plus the cost getting primaried all the time in a ship made of tinfoil, and it's a ******* expensive way of countering nano solopwnmobiles.
besides, a 5k hyena orbiting a ship is far from indestructable.
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: arbalesttom Anyone able to give a linkage to the skill requirements for the hyena? Cant find it, and im verry interested in it
Electronics upgrades 5, racial frig 5 + EAS skill when it's spawned.
if you can fly recons, you can fly baby-recons.
Thank you ry ry.
And eas, STFU because you already proven your a total nubtard who likes to smack, derail his own thread and who likes to pretend he has influence in eve... And be a man, post with your main * ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 23/11/2007 09:47:38
Originally by: Eas Leli Still even if you kill him, since Hyena's are cheap compared to t2 cruisers and easy to train into, there's probably others in the gang, and he probably considers it a worthwhile trade to kill a 90m HAC.
expect a non-faction fitted Hyena to cost between 25 and 30 million after the Secret Cabal Of Inventors have fixed the price.
now add rigs and stuff, plus the cost getting primaried all the time in a ship made of tinfoil, and it's a ******* expensive way of countering nano solopwnmobiles.
besides, a 5k hyena orbiting a ship is far from indestructable.
I would think these new frigates will be more around the 18-22m range.
I'm pretty sure it will hit 5km/s without rigs, as it stands. With polycarbs etc more like 6+. Higher sig radius though than an interceptor of course, and more mass too.
You could say it's roughly approaching as hard to kill as a crow due to the speed and range of it. Of course though in a ship with medium guns tackled by a crow, one regular tactic is to...exploit the fact the crow doesnt have a web. Crows are in fact extremely difficult ships to shake off so most mwd back to the gate.
Or for more experienced players in quite fast cruiser sized ships who can hit to 20km (eg. Vaga's, Zealot's. And various others), they could mwd away and towards the crow, so that if he's using the oribt command his ship will then start flying roughly away or towards your ship in order to re-obtain the orbit, thus lowering transversal somewhat relative to your ****, and making him easier to hit and soon insta pop.
Like, if you are in a vaga or stabber at the moment and have barrage loaded, you can still kill ceptors easily even though it's also easy to miss a lot. MWDing directly away from ceptors or towards them and insta-popping them is normal procedure.
Of course this advantage of maneuver is gone vs the hyena unless you can kill it very quickly before it closes to about 22km *the range I believe that it can web to with overloaded webs). So if you get caught by one off a gate, enjoy sitting there looking frustrated, while his gang comes to gank you. Medium guns or not wont help you, and neither will Warrior II's.
Of course, you can say the same about a huginn. Except the Hyena will probably be less than 1/5 of a Huginn price, and faster with a much better lock speed (although Huginns can fit sensorboosters). Not to mention that anyone who trains their own racial EAS skill can cross train into this one in about a week.
And personally I think Huginns, and the way webs work in general, is already a bad mechanic.
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Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: arbalesttom Anyone able to give a linkage to the skill requirements for the hyena? Cant find it, and im verry interested in it
Electronics upgrades 5, racial frig 5 + EAS skill when it's spawned.
if you can fly recons, you can fly baby-recons.
Thank you ry ry.
And eas, STFU because you already proven your a total nubtard who likes to smack, derail his own thread and who likes to pretend he has influence in eve... And be a man, post with your main
You got trolled hardcore. Now, I'm serious. Shut up you simple minded dolt.
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Kesc
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Kesc on 23/11/2007 10:24:14 I was reading on another forum about similar statements, it sounds a scary ship.
But then Minmatar always win.
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Captain Agemman
Minmatar Legio Ultra
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Agemman on 23/11/2007 10:25:00
Originally by: arbalesttom Hi mr. muninn! Check me, im orbitting you around 6000m/s, webbing and scrambling you and you cant hit meh!
Hello Mr.Hyena orbitting Mr.Muninn, meet Mrs.Thrasher.
With the Hyenas signature size, nothing will have big problems hitting it with active MWD. Most likely not even an dual 180mm AC Muninn if it orbits in the 15-17km area. Anyone tested?
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Agemman Edited by: Captain Agemman on 23/11/2007 10:25:00
Originally by: arbalesttom Hi mr. muninn! Check me, im orbitting you around 6000m/s, webbing and scrambling you and you cant hit meh!
Hello Mr.Hyena orbitting Mr.Muninn, meet Mrs.Thrasher.
With the Hyenas signature size, nothing will have big problems hitting it with active MWD. Most likely not even an dual 180mm AC Muninn if it orbits in the 15-17km area. Anyone tested?
Hyena has a bonus to sig radius...that should make it nasty * ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:35:00 -
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hi mr. hyena flying arround that muninn at 5km/sec. meet mr light precision caracal. oh, still arround? meet mr. huginn. hey where have you gone? I still want to talk with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu  ---
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Eas Leli
Originally by: arbalesttom
Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: arbalesttom Anyone able to give a linkage to the skill requirements for the hyena? Cant find it, and im verry interested in it
Electronics upgrades 5, racial frig 5 + EAS skill when it's spawned.
if you can fly recons, you can fly baby-recons.
Thank you ry ry.
And eas, STFU because you already proven your a total nubtard who likes to smack, derail his own thread and who likes to pretend he has influence in eve... And be a man, post with your main
You got trolled hardcore. Now, I'm serious. Shut up you simple minded dolt.
Eas. Why do you act like this? Is it because you got not enough luv when you where young? Did you get abused when you where young? Go check yourself man, you 1. are just stupid 2. forgot to take your pills 3. act like a cry baby and 4. should be banned right away.
No one cares about what your saying. I dont care either. So STFU and try to make at least something usefull on your own thread.
And im telling you, i have balls to post with my main. You dont, so that makes you a biiiiiiiiiig lewser. I laugh at you nubtard                       * ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 23/11/2007 10:41:55
i can see a hyena's actual role being to hold a nanoship long enough for other gang members to web the crap out of it, then run away before it gets popped by any passing puppies or small children.
alpha-web, if you like.
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Eas Leli
You're in Huzzah. The alliance with the pot leaf as your logo. LOL SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY, DRUGGS ARE SO FRIKKEN COOL.
You. This thread. Get out of.
Oh god another close minded biggot who only wants everyone to be just like him.
You. This game. Get out of. ---
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:43:00 -
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can a mod delete all my posts in this thread? i'm already ashamed to be associated with it :(
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 23/11/2007 10:41:55
i can see a hyena's actual role being to hold a nanoship long enough for other gang members to web the crap out of it, then run away before it gets popped by any passing puppies or small children.
alpha-web, if you like.
Yeah it sounds like i really want to try this ship. But how would a HIC be against it? A Hic lacks speed tbh, but i think it can make sure the hyena doesnt want to come too close to it.. * ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak hi mr. hyena flying arround that muninn at 5km/sec. meet mr light precision caracal. oh, still arround? meet mr. huginn. hey where have you gone? I still want to talk with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 
So what you're saying is...that a specific ship set up a specific way in order to counter another specific ship...works.
Wow.
In that case scrap the nerf for the Myrmidon and give it back its 5 heavy drones. It isn't overpowered at all. You know why? Mr Myrmidon, MEET MY NYX, GUDBYE!
Originally by: arbalesttom
Eas. Why do you act like this? Is it because you got not enough luv when you where young? Did you get abused when you where young? Go check yourself man, you 1. are just stupid 2. forgot to take your pills 3. act like a cry baby and 4. should be banned right away.
No one cares about what your saying. I dont care either. So STFU and try to make at least something usefull on your own thread.
And im telling you, i have balls to post with my main. You dont, so that makes you a biiiiiiiiiig lewser. I laugh at you nubtard                      
Didn't read a word of this.
Originally by: Shevar
Originally by: Eas Leli
You're in Huzzah. The alliance with the pot leaf as your logo. LOL SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY, DRUGGS ARE SO FRIKKEN COOL.
You. This thread. Get out of.
Oh god another close minded biggot who only wants everyone to be just like him.
You. This game. Get out of.
Urgh another internet druggy. Bet you're one of those unbearable c***s who insists on slurring over teamspeak how totally high or buzzing on E you are, as if you deserve a round of applause.
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
Eas. Why do you act like this? Is it because you got not enough luv when you where young? Did you get abused when you where young? Go check yourself man, you 1. are just stupid 2. forgot to take your pills 3. act like a cry baby and 4. should be banned right away.
No one cares about what your saying. I dont care either. So STFU and try to make at least something usefull on your own thread.
And im telling you, i have balls to post with my main. You dont, so that makes you a biiiiiiiiiig lewser. I laugh at you nubtard                      
Didn't read a word of this.
hahaha do that again and prove again your a nubtard that doesnt even read the posts on his own thread!!! go on funny guy!!! make my laugh more!!!
NUUUBBBBB       
* ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:58:00 -
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wow, its all like troll centrel in here....
anyweay, the hyena does look like it might be a bit untouchable, but if the gang that it and its buddys are fighting also hav one, or a rapier or an inty with a web.. those missile will soon catch up and make it nothing more than a pretty firework... lasting as much time under fire as a fire work too i bet 
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eas Leli
Originally by: Grimpak hi mr. hyena flying arround that muninn at 5km/sec. meet mr light precision caracal. oh, still arround? meet mr. huginn. hey where have you gone? I still want to talk with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 
So what you're saying is...that a specific ship set up a specific way in order to counter another specific ship...works.
wait wait. you mean I can't use a single setup/ship for all occasions?

SHOCK AND AWE PEOPLE.
SHOCK AND AWE. ---
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Eas Leli
Originally by: Grimpak hi mr. hyena flying arround that muninn at 5km/sec. meet mr light precision caracal. oh, still arround? meet mr. huginn. hey where have you gone? I still want to talk with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 
So what you're saying is...that a specific ship set up a specific way in order to counter another specific ship...works.
wait wait. you mean I can't use a single setup/ship for all occasions?

SHOCK AND AWE PEOPLE.
SHOCK AND AWE.
/signed
Eas doesnt only like to troll, flame, insult and act like a nub, its also clear he doesnt know **** and i really think his brain overloaded after he made that comment.
Eas =/> FAIL * ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:06:00 -
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So yeah cmon Eas, make another 'smart' comment so i can laugh more at your epic behaviour. Im enjoying your nubidity and i can tell you alot of other people are enjoying it as well! * ** *** ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 |

Eas Leli
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Eas Leli on 23/11/2007 11:10:45
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Eas Leli
Originally by: Grimpak hi mr. hyena flying arround that muninn at 5km/sec. meet mr light precision caracal. oh, still arround? meet mr. huginn. hey where have you gone? I still want to talk with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 
So what you're saying is...that a specific ship set up a specific way in order to counter another specific ship...works.
wait wait. you mean I can't use a single setup/ship for all occasions?

SHOCK AND AWE PEOPLE.
SHOCK AND AWE.
Of course you can and I never implied otherwise.
Your post was a s**tpost.
I'm going to go and troll all threads about frigates now with my MY CARACAL posts   
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eas Leli Edited by: Eas Leli on 23/11/2007 11:10:45
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Eas Leli
Originally by: Grimpak hi mr. hyena flying arround that muninn at 5km/sec. meet mr light precision caracal. oh, still arround? meet mr. huginn. hey where have you gone? I still want to talk with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 
So what you're saying is...that a specific ship set up a specific way in order to counter another specific ship...works.
wait wait. you mean I can't use a single setup/ship for all occasions?

SHOCK AND AWE PEOPLE.
SHOCK AND AWE.
Of course you can and I never implied otherwise.
Your post was a s**tpost.
I'm going to go and troll all threads about frigates now with my MY CARACAL posts   
I find your lack of irony skills disturbing. ---
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Eas Leli Funny, I get the deep impression you don't have the slightest grasp of the concept.
and you don't get the slightest grasp of my sarcasm and irony. ---
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