Well it's about time if I might say so myself. Does this Feb 8 date also have anything else to do with DUST 514?

Get your priorities straight

- FIX BBCODE PARSE ERROR WHICH % SIGNS CAUSE
- ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- FIX SIGNATURE EDITING TOOL
- ALLOW US TO USE COLORED TEXT LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- ADD SUPPORT FUNCTION TO ASSEMBLY HALL LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- FIX SESSION TIMEOUT WHICH FREQUENTLY EATS (USUALLY TIME CONSUMING AND WELL WRITTEN) POSTS
- ADD MORE CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS TO FORUM LAYOUT. AT LEAST LET US DISABLE SIDE BORDERS AND USE THE FULL WIDTH OF OUR SCREEN. GIVE US ALSO OPTION TO DISABLE THE BACKGROUND IMAGE.
- LINK FORUM TOPIC LIST DEV/GM/CSM/ISD TAGS TO THEIR 1st POSTS IN THE THREADS.
- GIVE US OPTION TO BROWSE THE FORUM WITHOUT JAVA LIKE IN OLD FORUMS.
- MAKE SURE THAT POSSIBLE "GANKED" DOESN'T EAT POSTS.
- ADD VOTING SYSTEM TO FORUM.

AND THEN ADD YOUR CORPORATE FORUMS IF YOU STILL HAVE TIME!

Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point.

Why are we doing this? There are two reasons basically.

We are very interested in providing corporations, particularly new and smaller corporations, with a community enhancing tool which boosts communication and corp cohesion without all the hassle of starting their own external forum.

We also have DUST approaching and this will provide corporations with a cross-game platform where both their EVE members and their DUST members can talk and discuss whose planet to curbstomp next.

To the blogging machine!

Also, it will be pretty silent in my forum, any chance that I could open it up to other pilots that would just love to discuss Veldspar with me - without having to accept them into my corp?

/c

- ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS

Here's clue for the ignorant: CCP has ignored these and other complaints since these forums went public (beta).

All this ignoring has proven at least one point so far: http://tinyurl.com/74ymrxf

Well, as half of the stuff in his caps lock list was terrible (No, you don't need to post in color. We aren't 13-year-old girls here) I hope they keep on ignoring you! YUP!

Dear god no. It just leads to people being obnoxious and requires that moderators constantly look for morons sticking gigantic pictures in their signatures. Forums without images are better forums. You're still able to link to images if you need, that's good enough.

If you can't make your point without posting some obnoxious anime screen shot, a stupid lolcat, or some other old, tired meme, then you shouldn't post at all.

Don't worry - they will... and I could as well be that 13 year old girl. What is wrong at being 13 and girl anyway? Are you racist?

Don't worry - they will... and I could as well be that 13 year old girl. What is wrong at being 13 and girl anyway? Are you racist?

Guys, please consider implementing forum pools.

What is a forum pool?

Confirming I'm racist against 13-year-olds (regardless of gender).

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.

Nice, will you add a killboard next?

Nice, will you add a killboard next?

An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course.

Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that.

Also: if you implement an official KB, please allow people to opt out. :)

-Liang

I am truly confused by this. It seems to me a neat, but functionally useless feature.

There is FAR to much emphasis placed at CCP on the whole "Corp" concept. It is my understanding that the vast majority of corps sit at around the 10 member mark and never get any bigger. There are lots of explanations as to why this may be so, but I am pretty sure that the reason they don't get larger isn't a lack of forum options. The fact is that corp communication isn't generally an issue, and by the time it does become an issue, it isn't corp communications you are worrying about, but rather Alliance and Coalition communication!

The issue is this, if you are a corp that is using the CCP forums, you are going to have a harder time when you join an Alliance or Coalition. You can't share those CCP forums with your Alliance, you can't allow access to portions to blues or your Coalition members and worse, it locks all your data into a nice proprietary CCP owned data store and you can't easily access it. It is a good idea, but doesn't seem thought through.

The reality here is that we need tools to help communicate to the people we play with, and CCP doesn't seem to realize that "Corp" isn't the end all and be all of that definition. What I would like to see is a standard permissions system. Use the user as the user object, Alliance/Corp as your first groups (make it so you have custom groups as well) and adopt a rights model like Exchange with various user roles and permissions. I want to be able to share my cache of fits with more than just the people in my corp.

This goes much further.. I want ways to integrate Jabber into EVE.. I want ways to integrate TeamSpeak and Mumble. A competent alliance will have Forums, Jabber, TeamSpeak/Mumble all tied into an auth system that assigns permissions based off API and checking against standings. That is just the BASICS. I really want CCP to realize that there is significant out of game IT resources required to create and maintain a functioning Alliance in EVE, I would like to see CCP dedicate some resources to reducing that over-head.

I don't see this as helping as it replaces a fully functional, if complex and difficult, system, with one that is crippled in the very ways I need it most (Auth and sharing info outside of just the corp level). I applaud the effort, I just think it could be better spent finding ways to make all those services play together better, and more easily integrate with EVE.

An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course.

Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that.

Sure if both the killer and the killed is opted out why not, but if either is subscribed the kill should show up.

Sure if both the killer and the killed is opted out why not, but if either is subscribed the kill should show up.

So this will allow CCP to spy on their player base so that they can finally get an idea what is happening in their own game. (Hint: Winners don't talk about RMT on a CCP sponsored forum).

That said, DUST members in EvE corps, this could get interesting.

But they promise not to, so it's ok.

They promised that their forum staff wouldn't be reading it. They didn't say anything about marketing. Not saying this is a bad thing. CCP is probably the only major actor in the EvE universe that is not running a spy network at this point.

On the other hand there is a definite plus side that it keep corps forums clearly in game. That drastically reduces the possibilities about RL complications from metagaming. I think that is a very good thing.

......

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.
- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.
- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.
- Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later.

- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.

.......


- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course.

Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that.

You mean this button? Also: if you implement an official KB, please allow people to opt out. :)

-Liang

So this will allow CCP to spy on their player base so that they can finally get an idea what is happening in their own game. (Hint: Winners don't talk about RMT on a CCP sponsored forum).

That said, DUST members in EvE corps, this could get interesting.

-Liang

Ed: I should probably just give up on my hatred of killboards... but I do so hate what they do to the society of the game. Too much risk averse, too much KM whoring, too much focus on ~stats~ and not enough on ~fun~. Blah.

Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.

- Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later.

- Public announcement forum was suggested. A place to post announcements to the read-only-rest-of-the-universe crowd. That's a nice suggestion that we'll take into consideration. We'd have to figure out a way to make it work so that not everyone sees announcements from a billion corps while still being useful as a broadcasting tool.

- Does the current ETA of corp forums have anything to do with Dust? Nope. If it does though, I'm being kept in the dark :(

- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.

Funny that people think that CCP couldn't spy on their eve-mails, chat channels and what else already from a server side should the need arise.
Or that they think themselves so important that CCP would care enough to keep tabs on them.

You decide if it's; pride, stupidity or just being paranoid ?

An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course.

Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

I have multiple characters in different corporations. I read that CCP is also working on a 'master' Eve account that includes all your accounts and characters. Will it later be possible to view the forums of all corporations you have characters in without relogging?

Will NPC corporations have their own forums?

I wrote some words on the internet about this new exciting thing we have coming to the EVE Forums. Please read the words here and give us your feedback on them in this thread. We're anxious to know what you all think and I'm sure my pals on the Web Team will be around to answer any questions you might have that are too complicated for someone as non-web-programmy as myself

To the blogging machine!

Also, it will be pretty silent in my forum, any chance that I could open it up to other pilots that would just love to discuss Veldspar with me - without having to accept them into my corp?

/c

An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course.

Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that.

Get your priorities straight

- FIX BBCODE PARSE ERROR WHICH % SIGNS CAUSE
- ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- FIX SIGNATURE EDITING TOOL
- ALLOW US TO USE COLORED TEXT LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- ADD SUPPORT FUNCTION TO ASSEMBLY HALL LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- FIX SESSION TIMEOUT WHICH FREQUENTLY EATS (USUALLY TIME CONSUMING AND WELL WRITTEN) POSTS
- ADD MORE CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS TO FORUM LAYOUT. AT LEAST LET US DISABLE SIDE BORDERS AND USE THE FULL WIDTH OF OUR SCREEN. GIVE US ALSO OPTION TO DISABLE THE BACKGROUND IMAGE.
- LINK FORUM TOPIC LIST DEV/GM/CSM/ISD TAGS TO THEIR 1st POSTS IN THE THREADS.
- GIVE US OPTION TO BROWSE THE FORUM WITHOUT JAVA LIKE IN OLD FORUMS.
- MAKE SURE THAT POSSIBLE "GANKED" DOESN'T EAT POSTS.
- ADD VOTING SYSTEM TO FORUM.

AND THEN ADD YOUR CORPORATE FORUMS IF YOU STILL HAVE TIME!

Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point.

For when corporation forum??

When the forums go down in a hour or so we should get that functionality

Ready? How active it for my corp members?

Is there a way we could get roles ingame to control access? So for example I may not want to give someone full director roles, but want them to see and reply to stuff in the announcements and board room catagories.

Get your priorities straight

- GIVE US OPTION TO BROWSE THE FORUM WITHOUT JAVA LIKE IN OLD FORUMS.

Where is it!!!

The current expected launch date is February 8th, which constitutes as "soon" in every sense of the word I believe.

I published this news item about the delayed launch yesterday but forgot to add a link to the news in this thread. The date I mentioned was apparently an optimistic one

We'll keep you guys in the loop about the progress as soon as we know more!

Access will be determined by in-game roles.

Considering the lack of functions, and over all lack of ability to control the roles and permissions, this is a lack luster feature that isn't going to be useful to anything but the smallest corps, and corp mail serves them just fine. CCP needs to make this a fully functioning forum, allow access via standings, Allow sub-forums, and flesh it out.

Considering the lack of functions, and over all lack of ability to control the roles and permissions, this is a lack luster feature that isn't going to be useful to anything but the smallest corps, and corp mail serves them just fine. CCP needs to make this a fully functioning forum, allow access via standings, Allow sub-forums, and flesh it out.

Cause small corps aren't important? Keep your elitist bullsh*t to yourself.

And all of your suggestions would actually make managing a forum much more difficult. A simple feature set can be beneficial sometimes you know.

I published this news item about the delayed launch yesterday but forgot to add a link to the news in this thread. The date I mentioned was apparently an optimistic one

We'll keep you guys in the loop about the progress as soon as we know more!

Allright.... we've got two possibilities here... both are VERY BAD. Either:

A) CCP has broken their promise of keeping us "in the loop as soon as we know more"
OR
B) 10 days after this posting they still don't "know more"

It's been THREE WEEKS since you guys said you're releasing it "today." If you ****** up fine, give us a date, give us an estimate, tell us to shut up and that it will be ready when it's ready... maybe in a year like the UI changes... but PLEASE don't throw these crazy promises at us and then go silent.... especially when you promise to keep us in the loop!

You guys are a great company and doing a great job but this sort of thing drives a lot of people crazy. Good luck with the corp forums, hope to see them soon.

um im with this guy! pls give us som info pretty pls with cherry ontop

I published this news item about the delayed launch yesterday but forgot to add a link to the news in this thread. The date I mentioned was apparently an optimistic one

We'll keep you guys in the loop about the progress as soon as we know more!

I wrote some words on the internet about this new exciting thing we have coming to the EVE Forums. Please read the words here and give us your feedback on them in this thread. We're anxious to know what you all think and I'm sure my pals on the Web Team will be around to answer any questions you might have that are too complicated for someone as non-web-programmy as myself

So why aren't the corp forums done yet?

If the answer is something like, "We are having trouble handling user permissions from the game database to the website database. The problem is being worked on." Then i can be patient and wait.

But if the answer is something like, "We moved the dev team working on corp forums to making more ugly track pants in the NeX store that go for $15 USD" Then I will straight up punch a baby seal.

I think they expect a 40x or more usage of evegate after they add the feature and needed to add more hardware. The loss of text issue needs to be fixed becouse people moving there corp forums over here will start a threadnaught about it as soon as they loose a post or two.

We're anxious to know what you all think and I'm sure my pals on the Web Team will be around to answer any questions you might have that are too complicated for someone as non-web-programmy as myself

TBD on the corp forums, but I bet that CCP has run afoul of their legal dept on this one -- especially since they claim to be providing a moderation-free zone on their own servers (very bad idea, legally). Yeah, we'll provide you with a room in our office building where you can ****, torture and sodomize under-age kiddies and we'll turn a blind eye. Makes good business sense to me!

Seriously i was also very excited about this feature, what happened to it?

Dying in a fire I guess...

Legal issues could indeed be the case but that doesn't change the fact that we should be briefed about this. Not to mention that there are 2-3 workarounds on the legal stuff.

A proper update is on it's way. I'm sorry for not keeping you updated on the progress more. We decided to do more load testing and security testing after the blog was released, and we've just been waiting for the results of those. But it now sounds like we'll have good news for you real soon!

And here-¦s the news.

We hope you'll like the changes.

A proper update is on it's way. I'm sorry for not keeping you updated on the progress more. We decided to do more load testing and security testing after the blog was released, and we've just been waiting for the results of those. But it now sounds like we'll have good news for you real soon!

And here-¦s the news.

We hope you'll like the changes.

March 8th and i don't see the corp forms yet....................................

I click ok, the forums reload, and no corp forums where they are supposed to be.

An interesting idea, although I suspect that many of the larger/more serious corporations and alliances already have their own forums out of game.

Any plans to add this for alliances as well?

I don't even get a pop-up?

I am having a few of our members saying they cannot see the Corp Forum (but can see te normalforums) while others including me can.

Anyone else getting this?

Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.

- Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later.

- Public announcement forum was suggested. A place to post announcements to the read-only-rest-of-the-universe crowd. That's a nice suggestion that we'll take into consideration. We'd have to figure out a way to make it work so that not everyone sees announcements from a billion corps while still being useful as a broadcasting tool.

- Does the current ETA of corp forums have anything to do with Dust? Nope. If it does though, I'm being kept in the dark :(

- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.

It would be nice, if corps smaller then 10 members could have a corpforum

I am truly confused by this. It seems to me a neat, but functionally useless feature.

There is FAR to much emphasis placed at CCP on the whole "Corp" concept. It is my understanding that the vast majority of corps sit at around the 10 member mark and never get any bigger. There are lots of explanations as to why this may be so, but I am pretty sure that the reason they don't get larger isn't a lack of forum options. The fact is that corp communication isn't generally an issue, and by the time it does become an issue, it isn't corp communications you are worrying about, but rather Alliance and Coalition communication!

The issue is this, if you are a corp that is using the CCP forums, you are going to have a harder time when you join an Alliance or Coalition. You can't share those CCP forums with your Alliance, you can't allow access to portions to blues or your Coalition members and worse, it locks all your data into a nice proprietary CCP owned data store and you can't easily access it. It is a good idea, but doesn't seem thought through.

The reality here is that we need tools to help communicate to the people we play with, and CCP doesn't seem to realize that "Corp" isn't the end all and be all of that definition. What I would like to see is a standard permissions system. Use the user as the user object, Alliance/Corp as your first groups (make it so you have custom groups as well) and adopt a rights model like Exchange with various user roles and permissions. I want to be able to share my cache of fits with more than just the people in my corp.

This goes much further.. I want ways to integrate Jabber into EVE.. I want ways to integrate TeamSpeak and Mumble. A competent alliance will have Forums, Jabber, TeamSpeak/Mumble all tied into an auth system that assigns permissions based off API and checking against standings. That is just the BASICS. I really want CCP to realize that there is significant out of game IT resources required to create and maintain a functioning Alliance in EVE, I would like to see CCP dedicate some resources to reducing that over-head.

I don't see this as helping as it replaces a fully functional, if complex and difficult, system, with one that is crippled in the very ways I need it most (Auth and sharing info outside of just the corp level). I applaud the effort, I just think it could be better spent finding ways to make all those services play together better, and more easily integrate with EVE.

The answer to all this is pretty easy: Let those who are best at doing certain things do those. CCP is very good at spaceship games but well, web stuff is not their main focus. Still alot of tools are web based especially forums.

So why not go the facebook connect way? Let's call it Eve Connect. CCP implements a service to authenticate a player/character with the web tools already available, like OAuth.

The player base can build all the tools they like and make access and authorization depending on the "Eve Connect" service.

There are more man months of work available among the players than CCP can muster. Focus!

Just logged on to get my corp their very own forums, but I don't see the option anywhere. Is there something I'm missing?