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Gyle
Caldari
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.11.24 05:48:00 -
[31]
Aye good fight all.
Heavy losses taken but worth it to knock those caps out of commision.
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Kraken Kill
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.24 05:53:00 -
[32]
8 carriers now. |
Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 05:54:00 -
[33]
"t to mention all the laggy conditions / auto targeting meaning there are many many people on BOTH sides of killmails :o"
Actually, it will show multi-loses if you look at the KB link I posted. I lost a carrier and domi...both are in the list.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
Nizar
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.24 05:59:00 -
[34]
BREAKING NEWS:
IRC carrier #8 died few minutes ago...
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BARON VON NEINLEDERHOSEN
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:00:00 -
[35]
I think it might be over........... well we will see.
haveing a blast guys GF
I driks lot
*signature removed- Jacques([email protected])*
Next mod that nerfs my sig gets a **** punch
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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:02:00 -
[36]
 Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Shardrael
Originally by: Mr Broker
after loosing +50 ships, you better kill a mothership or something
who in the blue hell are you?
i'm the one stirring the pot, leaving Smash no choice but to remove you from the drone regions
aww isnt that cute, we have our own hateful alt poster :) guess were special now.
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Goca
KAOS.
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:03:00 -
[37]
Excellent,
sounds like all had fun, congrats..
not massive numbers, but good sized fleets, awesome!
btw wouldn't you say THIS shows carriers are NOT the freaking solo pwnmobiles the morons in charge and their lackey's seem to think they are?
Yes RK/Smash/Atlas etc lost more smaller ships, but ******* duh, that kinda makes sense no?
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Gant Stryker
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:09:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Gant Stryker on 24/11/2007 06:15:21
Originally by: Goca
Excellent,
sounds like all had fun, congrats..
not massive numbers, but good sized fleets, awesome!
btw wouldn't you say THIS shows carriers are NOT the freaking solo pwnmobiles the morons in charge and their lackey's seem to think they are?
Yes RK/Smash/Atlas etc lost more smaller ships, but ******* duh, that kinda makes sense no?
Final numbers to come, but this was not a small battle, there were at max 51 in our fleet (I was in charge of invites) and we have counted 190 different pilots so far in 5 alliances that came in.
Considering 4-1 oddds and that the battle went on for more than 3 hours, I would say we did well enough. 2-1 we do a lot better.
And anyways, what are you supposed to do when that many hostiles come in? Pos up? Thats a quick way to lose your space.
You bring it and you bring everything you have. Its your space, it won't stay that way if you won't fight for it.
[url=http://killboard.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50]
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Moloc
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:09:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Farham
Actually, it will show multi-loses if you look at the KB link I posted. I lost a carrier and domi...both are in the list.
'per side'
The reason it shows both for you is because your carrier was on a friendly mail. so your carrier is listed as hostile, but the last ship you lost 'domi' replaces your carrier on the 'friendly' side. If you didn't get on a friendly mail your carrier loss wouldn't appear on the summary. Naturally if you click on the domi, it takes you to your carrier loss.
We use the same software, it's just a flaw in the software. The other flaw that killmails sometimes have is that they show you were in a carrier when you just had fighters assigned (not saying that has happened just saying that it does).
Quote:
Curse us, make fun of us, whatever to us, part of our strength is we really don't give a flying F about carrier loses :)
We knew with 5000+ enemies in the area we either have lots of back up carriers and dreds or die.
Wait till you see how man Dreds we can field :D
Make fun? We're not making fun, I think you'll agree we're both 'having fun'.
Dreads, are not fun.
No way in hell do we want you guys to leave, can you imagine how boring that would make the area ?
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Sosik
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:09:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Sosik on 24/11/2007 06:09:56
Epic fight.
Seems to have come out slightly in RK/Smash/Atlas/Pure side. Given that we were outnumbered about ~3:1, we didn't come across as badly as we thought it might have been. Important thing is that the moms got out. They're worth a lot more than 8 carriers.
GF.
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Moloc
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:12:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Gant Stryker
Considering 4-1 oddds and that the battle went on for more than 3 hours, I would say we did well enough. 2-1 we do a lot better.
If we had 4-1 odds in cap ships the battle would have been 4 minutes not 4 hours :o
We had a big numbers advantage, but your killboard shows 16 carriers and 2 motherships vs 0 caps.... taking that down 4-1 is still a big effort. We could have done better, 7+ carriers is still less than even 1 of those Aeons...
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:17:00 -
[42]
Ok, our other carrier finally updated his kills, the fight from begining until the 7 carriers went down includes:
Kills/Losses
Assault Frig: 6/4
Battlecruisers: 22/15
Battleships: 53/22
Carrier: 0/7 (we lost one more late)
Command Ship: 3/2
Cov Ops: 7/2
Cruiser: 19/18
Frigate: 3/4
Heavy Assault: 14/4
Interceptor: 12/1
Interdictor:13/1
Logistics: 2/0
Recon: 6/2
All in all, we took the carrier lumps, but it was fun.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
Gant Stryker
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:20:00 -
[43]
updated fleet totals
IRC 61, Hostiles 264. Obviously not all at once, but throughout the long engagement.
[url=http://killboard.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50]
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Maj'k Lootar
Trinity Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:22:00 -
[44]
shame the two aeons got away. but really ive been expecting this for a while. you dont throw cap blobs at every gang you encounter and not expect one of them to be smart enough to counter blob you one day.
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Gant Stryker
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:23:00 -
[45]
When you are outnumberd 6000 to 800 alliance wise, you bring everything you can to every fight. If you don't you best enjoy veld mining in Jita.
[url=http://killboard.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50]
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Moloc
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:24:00 -
[46]
The caps were melting any of our BS's eventually they were told to just all hold until the fighters were cleaned up. Fighters make very short work of BS's, but they have trouble with smaller stuff.
Though I did end up pulling alot of warrior 2's out quite a way. And had to think very quick being that the caps had my dictor neuted to 0 cap about 10 times.
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Maj'k Lootar
Trinity Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:27:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Gant Stryker
When you are outnumberd 6000 to 800 alliance wise, you bring everything you can to every fight. If you don't you best enjoy veld mining in Jita.
my friend... your problem is not that you bring ships... its that your predictable...
if you send 2 capitals after an interceptor gang of aproximatly 4. expect someone to be smart enough to realise.
i dont expect to be seeing many of your caps in the future tbh. but if i do... theres something wrong and you clearly havnt learnt your lesson.
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Sosik
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:30:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Howling Jinn
which region was this battle in?
7-K
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:31:00 -
[49]
"shame the two aeons got away. but really ive been expecting this for a while. you dont throw cap blobs at every gang you encounter and not expect one of them to be smart enough to counter blob you one day."
You either bring 50 regular ships to a fight against 150 or you use your caps in a way to equalize things.
Of course we knew this day would come. That is why we build lots of extra caps and push corp insurance. I can assure you we will make appropriate changes over the next few days should they decide this is a good idea again. 2 Motherships are good, should a few more of ours been available when the fight actually happened...it could be interesting :) They will be made aware to be on a bit more.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
Gant Stryker
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:45:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Maj'k Lootar
Originally by: Gant Stryker
When you are outnumberd 6000 to 800 alliance wise, you bring everything you can to every fight. If you don't you best enjoy veld mining in Jita.
my friend... your problem is not that you bring ships... its that your predictable...
if you send 2 capitals after an interceptor gang of aproximatly 4. expect someone to be smart enough to realise.
i dont expect to be seeing many of your caps in the future tbh. but if i do... theres something wrong and you clearly havnt learnt your lesson.
If we had pos'd up there is no way we could have defended against that fleet. A big fleet gets bored they start thinking about how your station services need to be shot, how your cyno jammers going down would make neat popping noises, and how your station that you built with sweat and blood would be nicer in their control.
Seriously, what do you suggest? If you can't maych support on support you have to even things somehow.
[url=http://killboard.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50]
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RandyPan
Black Serpent Technologies
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:00:00 -
[51]
This was fun even though i died before the grid loaded after warping to one of the Aeons. Most fun i had was in 89 next door playing Benny Hill with some hostiles after i warped to a planet and found a Cerberus pilot clearly as shocked to see me as i was to see him.
Props to Smash/Pure/RK and the rest for a fun evening.
P.S Please do SOMETHING about the lag ccp.....pretty please. 
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Maj'k Lootar
Trinity Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Gant Stryker
Originally by: Maj'k Lootar
Originally by: Gant Stryker
When you are outnumberd 6000 to 800 alliance wise, you bring everything you can to every fight. If you don't you best enjoy veld mining in Jita.
my friend... your problem is not that you bring ships... its that your predictable...
if you send 2 capitals after an interceptor gang of aproximatly 4. expect someone to be smart enough to realise.
i dont expect to be seeing many of your caps in the future tbh. but if i do... theres something wrong and you clearly havnt learnt your lesson.
If we had pos'd up there is no way we could have defended against that fleet. A big fleet gets bored they start thinking about how your station services need to be shot, how your cyno jammers going down would make neat popping noises, and how your station that you built with sweat and blood would be nicer in their control.
Seriously, what do you suggest? If you can't maych support on support you have to even things somehow.
dont pretend you seek even fight or roughly even. you bring bigger numbers and caps. so dont play the victim role.
besides... im not arguning what you bring or what you dont. if your stupid enough to respond to every single gang of 20 with 40 support and 10 caps... expect people to wisen up.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:20:00 -
[53]
Dang the fun is when I'm at work :(
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:22:00 -
[54]
"dont pretend you seek even fight or roughly even. you bring bigger numbers and caps. so dont play the victim role."
I don't suspect you are catching the entire premise. We always assume more are incoming. We react with all possible force. We are surrounded by nearly 6 to 1 odds against with 4 of the alliances actively working together when they come our way.
I am sorry you got your cookies broken when you brought some gang our way but if you think we aren't going to bring all available force when in our home, tough s hit.
Caps sitting in POSes or sitting in their station are useless. I know that is a new concept to some of you in small alliances but caps are ships. They get built, they get blown up like any other ship.
Tonight will change nothing in our general theory on PVP. Some changes will be made but I can assure you we won't stop using caps.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
Blood Thorn
Minmatar
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:24:00 -
[55]
Quote:
The battle is a stalemate until a nidhogger warps in at a gridload 250 off the gate, and the fleet quickly kills it.
Quickly? Not hardly. Given the amount of firepower pouring into me, I was surprised that it took you so long.
<shrug> Never-the-less, carriers are meant to be used, and I would perform the same actions again. On 50+ kills with that carrier tonight.
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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:27:00 -
[56]
Edited by: NickSuccorso on 24/11/2007 07:29:42
Picture
good times.
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:42:00 -
[57]
I'm shocked tbh.
IRC actually has a good attitude towards pvp. 
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:47:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Farham on 24/11/2007 07:49:02
The reason for all the yellow wrecks in the picture is because Nick there is in one of the alliances that did not lose many of those ships. Many of those yellow wrecks were from his friends in RK/Smash/Pure and Atlas.
It looked very different from our view. I will get a screenie up once one of our lazy stoners wakes up and responds to his corp mail.
Our consolidated kill mail checker has 185 hostiles kills to our 97 loses over 4 hours.
And yes we have fraps. 19.5 Gigs worth which is being gone through as we speak.
"IRC actually has a good attitude towards pvp. Shocked"
If we weren't keeping our folks close for home defense I would try and send a gang your way Bruns...we are small and learning but we know you all would appreciate a 20 man gang coming your way.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
envetro
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:56:00 -
[59]
Originally by: RandyPan
This was fun even though i died before the grid loaded after warping to one of the Aeons. Most fun i had was in 89 next door playing Benny Hill with some hostiles after i warped to a planet and found a Cerberus pilot clearly as shocked to see me as i was to see him.
Props to Smash/Pure/RK and the rest for a fun evening.
P.S Please do SOMETHING about the lag ccp.....pretty please.
rofl... i was that cerb pilot.. and yeah i was shocked to see u 2.. all i had was damps no tackle rofl.. u notice i was spamming local for tacklers.. lol but later i did see you warp into the fight... by the time i locked ya u already poped  .. lol
was fun guys, i give respect to IC they bring the fight unlike recent targets we've had and they defend there system with all available means which is what everyone in 0.0 should do... was the best pvp i had in awhile, cya next time and GF!!!
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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:57:00 -
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Farham, that picture was actually just to show that there was a lot of **** getting blasted, and much fun was being had. I don't give a damn about kill to death chatter or silly things like that.
Looking forward to seeing your Motherships again soon.
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