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frank frank Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:21:00 - [61] Ha ha your name is Hungo
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:23:00 - [62] lol @ the idiots saying "You're not alliance material". Hungo, mate, your carrier would've gone down like a sack of bricks. You just saved yourself (and your alliance) an(other) embarassing loss. About coldkill's carrier: the sad thing with that is that KOS DID field a gang... AFTER we killed it... and then lost about 20-25 ships when they engaged... to no losses for us... D-F-C recruitment closed
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:25:00 - [63] LOL at OP. Dont know what he's been smoking PVP - im involved in a ton of pvp ops in KOS and ive never seen this guy so im assuming hes some carebear type we can do without stations - nah we dont even deploy pos, in fact we just place a container at each moon called "please dont put a pos here" industry - We have some very strong industry corps. Im guessing you are one of those corps who feels that they need to have their hands held in everything they do by the alliance? Senate - Senates are always talking shops but its the only place to make sure that there is a place to bring up any concerns. If we on the other hand had no meeting like this you would probabaly be here complaining about it being a dictatorships. Why you are being booted. Nobody would ask you to suicide your carrier for no reason. On the other hand if its you just docking up to save your own hide rather than going to a pos to give fighter support then that entirely a different matter. Tbh going on what you have wrote im really not gonna start crying that you are leaving us. Also in regards to the isk farmer matter if you see an isk farmer and they are flying under kos mail someone from the kos leadership with the details so we can get rid of them. KOS is not a fan of isk farmers and i know that we have had them in the past but we welcome any help in purging the rest of them who are hiding in none isk farmer corps.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:28:00 - [64] You did the right thing dude :) Why anyone remotely interested in PvP is in KOS is one of the big mysteries of the universe. And them not being able to keep 50% moon coverage of stations is very very old news, same crappy leaders i assume lol?
TJ17 Gallente Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:28:00 - [65] Originally by: Firkragg LOL at OP. Dont know what he's been smoking PVP - im involved in a ton of pvp ops in KOS and ive never seen this guy so im assuming hes some carebear type we can do without cant forget u guys introduced eve to the fleet myrm. Tbh going on what you have wrote im really not gonna start crying that you are leaving us. Also in regards to the isk farmer matter if you see an isk farmer and they are flying under kos mail someone from the kos leadership with the details so we can get rid of them. KOS is not a fan of isk farmers and i know that we have had them in the past but we welcome any help in purging the rest of them who are hiding in none isk farmer corps. could of fooled me and most of eve on that one
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:32:00 - [66] Originally by: Firkragg Senate - Senates are always talking shops but its the only place to make sure that there is a place to bring up any concerns. If we on the other hand had no meeting like this you would probabaly be here complaining about it being a dictatorships. No. No it's not. If you have leaders that DESERVE to lead, you will always have a means to bring up concerns. We don't function as a democraZy, yet there's never been a time were I felt that my concerns (as few as they have been) were ignored, or worse, that I was being muzzled. D-F-C recruitment closed
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:34:00 - [67] Originally by: Firkragg LOL at OP. Dont know what he's been smoking PVP - im involved in a ton of pvp ops in KOS and ive never seen this guy so im assuming hes some carebear type we can do without stations - nah we dont even deploy pos, in fact we just place a container at each moon called "please dont put a pos here" industry - We have some very strong industry corps. Im guessing you are one of those corps who feels that they need to have their hands held in everything they do by the alliance? Senate - Senates are always talking shops but its the only place to make sure that there is a place to bring up any concerns. If we on the other hand had no meeting like this you would probabaly be here complaining about it being a dictatorships. Why you are being booted. Nobody would ask you to suicide your carrier for no reason. On the other hand if its you just docking up to save your own hide rather than going to a pos to give fighter support then that entirely a different matter. Tbh going on what you have wrote im really not gonna start crying that you are leaving us. Also in regards to the isk farmer matter if you see an isk farmer and they are flying under kos mail someone from the kos leadership with the details so we can get rid of them. KOS is not a fan of isk farmers and i know that we have had them in the past but we welcome any help in purging the rest of them who are hiding in none isk farmer corps. Impressive ton of crap there but then, lets be honest, what are KOS good for except accepting ISK farmers and loosing multiple ships at once. Go away Firk. because fact is, your the first to dock up
Theo Samaritan Gallente Pheonix Reborn	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:44:00 - [68] This topic is made of win. Hungo good job, KOS, you should've gone were LV went you turncoats. ______________________________
Isolde Jakiri Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:47:00 - [69] Originally by: Hungo Stations - This is the juicy scoop here - On each KOS station there is only about 30% maximum of the moons covered because they lack the actual in house ability to field more than 1 Large POS per corp. The station systems themselves are easily take able. You only have to launch an offensive, let's be honest. Not as if they could stop you. In the 40+ moon systems in Tenerifis, 12+ poses (which 30% represents) is way more than is required. With the anchoring limits from Rev II, you can get by with 6 and not have any worries as long as you can put more down between downtimes. The industry thing is strange as well - why do you need nationalised industry?
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:18:00 - [70] Originally by: Kriger Originally by: Desiderata Fabian Self righteous, selfish, canÆt follow orders? Man they are probably better off without you. The scary thing is, u prolly believe that bull. Goons... If its one thing anyone can agree on about goons, is that we have no qualms about getting ourselves killed when our leaders order us to. Its just usually not in caps.
Stelteck Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:39:00 - [71] I do not know KOS alliance very well but they survived a long time, are still alive, with somes stations and spaces, while many alliances do not.
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:40:00 - [72] There's only one thing I'm certain of here and that is revenge posts tend to exaggerate and lie about about what actually happened. Bitter enemies who failed to take KOS space and lost their own in the process also tend to do this. Not aimed at anyone, it's just another Eve fact.
6Bagheera9 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:42:00 - [73] I can confirm this is SOP for KOS. I was in KOS when RA made its return from the dead and went 28 days later on the south-east. I took a week off to deal with some RL issues and when I came back RA held N7. Were this the end result of bloody siege that I simply missed I would have been less incredulous than I was told what actually transpired. Basically some ****wit FORGOT to put guns on the POSs holding sovereignty for the system. It took my corpmates over an hour to convince me that this was not a joke. In my opinion the only sad note in this tale of muppetry was that RA did not do the decent thing and finish off KOS. Even Xelas had it high points under Mitch Taylor of DR and then latter when it endured the siege of Fountain by D2. You will find no such plaques or trophies adorning KOS's mantle-piece, only a threadbare bag of fail.
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:49:00 - [74] Originally by: 6Bagheera9 Even Xelas had it high points under Mitch Taylor of DR and then latter when it endured the siege of Fountain by D2. You will find no such plaques or trophies adorning KOS's mantle-piece, only a threadbare bag of fail. Much like your alliance? Don't even start about Mitch "I leave with alliance assets for BOB as real life is keeping me from playing Eve" Taylor (then ends up putting more man hours in a few weeks in the Catch assault then he did in a year while leading his ex-sucker-alliance).
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:52:00 - [75] whoever told you to undock against a giant vaga gang is a moron....its your ship do what you want with it....the rest of you stuff is just babble...most of which you wouldnt know cuz your not in the leadership circles.....also...im sure all of eve will now consume us...oh wait..no they wont. Have a good day everyone -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp -Corp Public Channel = The T Public -Alliance Public = kos-public
Sobic Kurophsky Incognito Inc	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:53:00 - [76] Originally by: Stelteck I do not know KOS alliance very well but they survived a long time, are still alive, with somes stations and spaces, while many alliances do not. Thats like saying "Xelas was around a long time so they couldn't have been THAT bad" No, there actually that bad. I mean don't get em wrong, I love KOS type alliances because there good places to "Rat" for killmails.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:58:00 - [77] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 24/11/2007 17:01:29 Originally by: Berrik Radhok Has any democratic alliance ever succeeded in a big way? So far, most Democracy style alliances have just been glorified longer term scams in disguise, or places for people to go on power trips because the real word is crushing their spirit or both. I know this from my back in the days when I used to be a Director of a corp that was in a democracy style alliance, and I found out enough about what people really did to have decided that the senete style democratic kind of model just does not work in this game. You can get damm good Democracy style alliances, but this thing called Human Nature ensures means that it would be rather unlikely to happen any time soon. -- Billion Isk Mission
6Bagheera9 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.11.24 17:01:00 - [78] Originally by: Shinori Originally by: 6Bagheera9 Even Xelas had it high points under Mitch Taylor of DR and then latter when it endured the siege of Fountain by D2. You will find no such plaques or trophies adorning KOS's mantle-piece, only a threadbare bag of fail. Much like your alliance? Don't even start about Mitch "I leave with alliance assets for BOB as real life is keeping me from playing Eve" Taylor (then ends up putting more man hours in a few weeks in the Catch assault then he did in a year while leading his ex-sucker-alliance). I never said Xelas's accomplishments were that impressive, only that they had a few which they could lay claim to. And Exuro Mortis has had proud history for being some of the most infuriating raiders in EvE. D2 fell on its face in Fountain due in no small part to EM's recon gangs. If I were you, I'd stop blindly defending the village idiot of your coalition and start considering how it reflects on you as KOS waves its ***** at passing cars.
Howling Jinn Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.	Posted - 2007.11.24 17:02:00 - [79] in before ******** comment on how good the game was back in the day(when we were winning and not insignificant)
Itzena Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.24 17:04:00 - [80] Originally by: TJ17 Originally by: Firkragg LOL at OP. Dont know what he's been smoking PVP - im involved in a ton of pvp ops in KOS and ive never seen this guy so im assuming hes some carebear type we can do without cant forget u guys introduced eve to the fleet myrm. Tbh going on what you have wrote im really not gonna start crying that you are leaving us. Also in regards to the isk farmer matter if you see an isk farmer and they are flying under kos mail someone from the kos leadership with the details so we can get rid of them. KOS is not a fan of isk farmers and i know that we have had them in the past but we welcome any help in purging the rest of them who are hiding in none isk farmer corps. could of fooled me and most of eve on that one Your sig needs updating. -- Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 17:21:00 - [81] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 24/11/2007 17:01:29 Originally by: Berrik Radhok Has any democratic alliance ever succeeded in a big way? So far, most Democracy style alliances have just been glorified longer term scams in disguise, or places for people to go on power trips because the real word is crushing their spirit or both. I know this from my back in the days when I used to be a Director of a corp that was in a democracy style alliance, and I found out enough about what people really did to have decided that the senete style democratic kind of model just does not work in this game. You can get damm good Democracy style alliances, but this thing called Human Nature ensures means that it would be rather unlikely to happen any time soon. yeah there is no alliance that is fully democratic...all you can do is assign certain functions to be handled democratically -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp -Corp Public Channel = The T Public -Alliance Public = kos-public
Gorefacer Caldari Resurrection	Posted - 2007.11.24 17:48:00 - [82] Originally by: hellsknights To be honest, the day another player tells me what to do with my assets and the day im forced to comply, is the day i quit EvE. Well said. "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus

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