That is why you bring your own caps along with your subcaps. I can gaurentee you that goons have as much supers/titans as ncdot/pl do. Difference is that they never put them to use. If goons actually field 800 maels like they do AND bring their cap fleet they could easily win.

We don't deploy supers because all the elite pvp supercap alliances up here are blue and together vastly outnumber our fleet. Only need a sniff of goon supers to have the whole north alight with cynos scrambling for a counter drop. It's easy to swing your balls around when you can use supers with impunity.

Sounds like a personal problem. lol.

But all joking aside - So, you would like ccp to nerf titans then so you can defeat them WITHOUT using your own caps (which is what they are designed for in the first place) ?

Nerfing so they can blap several fleets but lose a couple of guys in the process would be fine. Or making it so subcaps couldn't touch supers and vice versa would also do. But day-to-day 50 guys shouldn't decide a battle that involves hundreds or thousands, that's just bad design and unfun.

Nerfing so they can blap several fleets but lose a couple of guys in the process would be fine.

But do you realize how vulnerable titans are already in these 'blap' fits they use to get aditional tracking to fight subcaps?

- An erebus for example will have at most 30mil ehp in a blap fit.
- I know that goons for example are capable of fielding 3 full fleets of maels. Lets say, thats 750maels with 850 dps and 10k volley each.
- That would be a combined 637500 dps and 7.5MIL alpha every 17 seconds.
- That would also be as much dps as 90 avatars FYI
- Erebus will die in 4 volleys, or 4x17 = 68 seconds (1 min)
- That much dps will require reps from 386 capital reps to keep it alive (assuming 80% resist with blap fit).
- Now, lets say we field on average 50 carriers along with titans. Each carrier would require more than 7 reps permarunning to keep erebus alive, which is not possible.

So your wish that

Is already possible

Gas Thread, Ban OP.

I'm not a Titan pilot, and never plan to be one- the obvious problem with Titans is literally the only counter to them is to have more Titans. You can talk all day about how vulnerable blap-titans are and how easily they are destroyed but factor in that most people that employ this bullshit do it from the relative safety of being inside POS shields, even with thier awkward ship agility, its simply not feasible to kill something that can be untargetable at will.

only counter to them is to have more Titans

Is a poorly thought off and overused arguement, that makes absolutely no sense. I can also say that only counter to maels is more maels. Only counter to a tengu fleet is more tengus etc etc.

I simply meant that the only counter to titan spam, that the cluster can currently handle, even with TiDi is with more titans.

Maels are countered by TenguFleet.
TenguFleet is countered by AHACs.

Etc, etc. almost every other fleet doctrine has a counter that involves other ships. Sure numbers will win regardless of skill level, but saying that there is a subcap/cap titan counter without an equal/greater number of titans is just absurd, or the hostiles are suffering from soul crushing lag (which seldom happens anymore).

To be honest, the "I got a titan and you don't, so I don't want them nerfed hurf blurf" argument is just as poorly though of and overused.

That is why you bring your own caps along with your subcaps. I can gaurentee you that goons have as much supers/titans as ncdot/pl do. Difference is that they never put them to use. If goons actually field 800 maels like they do AND bring their cap fleet they could easily win.

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I simply meant that the only counter to titan spam, that the cluster can currently handle, even with TiDi is with more titans.

Maels are countered by TenguFleet.

TenguFleet is countered by AHACs.

Etc, etc. almost every other fleet doctrine has a counter that involves other ships. Sure numbers will win regardless of skill level, but saying that there is a subcap/cap titan counter without an equal/greater number of titans is just absurd,

lmao 9 months in tri mk. whatever and the titan blob is like the best friend you never had

joiners are hilarious!

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Has nothing to contribute to arguement, so resorts to personal attacks. Typical mindless troll..

you guys realize supercaps don't need to solely passive tank and never use any RR right

you can't blap them to death, they rep too much for that. You'd need enough maels to volley one of them and that's not going to happen without crashing the node.

The problem with Titans, and Supercarriers to a certain degree, is that they have a very poorly defined purpose. It is difficult to balance a ship when it's unclear what it is even remotely designed to do. Titans at the moment are extremely versatile, excelling at killing battleship fleets, capitals, supercapitals, and providing power projection through titan bridges and amazing gang bonuses, and the sheer logistical capacity a titan gives is astounding. Even if Titans were unusable for combat, they would still be built, and used for their other purposes.

Of course, if Titans are useless in combat, that is removing a ship that can be used and lowering the dynamic, etc, and so is an incredibly ******** idea. So, Titans require a more defined combat role. If you want them to destroy battleship fleets, then they need to become more vulnerable to other capitals and have the Doomsday device either removed or changed once more. If you want them to remain excellent at killing Capitals, then you need to make them more vulnerable to subcaps, and lower their tracking so as to make subcaps more of a threat to them.