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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:19:00 -
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So today I finally fell in the trap... Usually flying in deep low sec space in a known area I dont really have the problem with high sec... However today I went roaming and we needed a probelauncher, so I buy one 1 jump away and go for it. "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Would it screw anyone up if entering space you will be deemed an enemy in, triggered a dangerous act warning, just like so many other thing?
CCP, I think I speak for a many pirates when I say that this point needs a warning message.
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etgfrogs
Cassandra's Light Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:24:00 -
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yea....dont try to run back to a gate with a navy gate camp....warp away then back
but i would agree that that should be in there....even though you can see it on your auto pilot list showing as yellow....
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SirMoric
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:26:00 -
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The easy answer is: "use the map"
The old answer is: "can I have your stuff?"
My answer is: "you're the pirate.... deal with it"
rgds
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Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:28:00 -
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I'm reminded from a scene in the Jim Carey movie, "Liar, Liar" Carey's character has had a rough day as a lawyer who isn't able to lie in any manner. "Sir, (Rich, famous, but scoff-law) is on line 2. He's in jail again and wants advice on what to do." "QUIT BREAKING THE LAW, A******!"
Seriously, use a high-sec alt or place a buy order with a little profit in it for someone willing to make the haul for you. _______________________________
Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money.
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Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: SirMoric The easy answer is: "use the map"
The old answer is: "can I have your stuff?"
My answer is: "you're the pirate.... deal with it"
rgds
QFT
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Erim Solfara
Amarr House of Solfara
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:30:00 -
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There aren't enough restrictions on pirates (other than targets/income) atm, why should you outlaws not have to face the consequences of your low sec stat? Faction police aren't gonna warn a wanted criminal that they're waiting for him at they?
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John McDuff
Caldari Jovian Labs Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:35:00 -
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Got a bit of a mixed feeling on this one. I run into the prob from time to time with a 'prat' alt (being a total carebear i might be in less than optimal shape there :p), but on the other hand its not something like a warning for a noob heading to losec. Becoming a prat and getting a restrictive secstat to me is a lot more of a choice and lot more of a responsibility to handle. So i'd say learn to adapt, be obliged to pay attention to your flightplan and be automatically be tought to be 'hard' the hard way.
--- "Everyone speaks of my drinking, but never of my thirst" Everyone can now start bowing down to me in an orderly fashion...
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insidion
Caldari Last of the Technocracy
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:41:00 -
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Don't even have to go to map. Right click, Location->Set destination. If there are green/yellow dots, it's not for you.
Originally by: Helen Hunt ..."QUIT BREAKING THE LAW, A******!"
heh, pretty funny comparison. =)
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:41:00 -
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There are warnings already you probably disabled them.
"You are warping to a gate owned by blah blah, it may not be safe, because blah blah"
Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Celeste Coeval There are warnings already you probably disabled them.
"You are warping to a gate owned by blah blah, it may not be safe, because blah blah"
You only get that warning if you have a GCC I believe and it does it to all lowsec gates wether it leads to lowsec or highsec. As to the OP... meh. I've done it a couple of times too and it happens to all of us. Sucks, but it's part of the job I guess.
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Queen Killerz
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:46:00 -
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Ahem? Pirate whine??
I wonder if you get the same warning for bubble?
Warning your about to jump into Interdicter Bubble
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:47:00 -
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Oh that's sad. Ah well, at least you got insura... oh wait. EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Dople ganger
Gallente SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:53:00 -
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Giggles in glee pointing at fellow piwate!!!
Mouahahahaa... That is even funnier then blowing up undocking noobs.
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Erim Solfara There aren't enough restrictions on pirates (other than targets/income) atm, why should you outlaws not have to face the consequences of your low sec stat? Faction police aren't gonna warn a wanted criminal that they're waiting for him at they?
So getting a warning would remove the consequence of going to high sec? I think not... You still cant enter, just just get a warning that you are about to do a mistake (just like everyone else can in high sec with concord warning). So I dont really see a consequence removed.
Also, why does the criminal warning message say "go back or be shoot" when you dont really get the chance to go back anyway?
And in the end, would it in any way destroy the game or make it different at all for anyone else if there was a warning? If not, why then be against it?
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Ok, it looks like you got your warning. It sounds like what they may want to do is set the timer up to give you a chance to get to the gate. Sounds like a flaw - petition it.
But then again, I wonder how many people warp into a bubble with no warnings at all and get popped. Sorry, I can't support your idea any further.
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet! 
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: JamnOne
Originally by: Grunanca "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Ok, it looks like you got your warning. It sounds like what they may want to do is set the timer up to give you a chance to get to the gate. Sounds like a flaw - petition it.
But then again, I wonder how many people warp into a bubble with no warnings at all and get popped. Sorry, I can't support your idea any further.
Well, bubbles are player made, the other thing is a game feature. You dont get warning either when you are about to enter a low sec gatecamp, however just like bubbles, these are player made and not npcs you cant kill, no matter your numbers and ships..
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Indigentia
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:19:00 -
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Agreed, Grun.
I did a silly thing and got drunk while roaming, not a good thing . jumped into a high sec system and got popped. Warnings would be appriciated.
And for all you carebears out there, saying "You're a pirate, deal with it", I have but one thing to say;
- Being a pirate is a feature. As such, we should be treated as paying customers and get the same usefull warnings (albeit changed) etc that all the miners n' ratters have.
jumping from lowsec to highsec warnings for peeps with bad sec status!
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:23:00 -
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ccp promised you a space game and you got it
they never promised you wouldn't $uck at it  signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: JamnOne
Originally by: Grunanca "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Ok, it looks like you got your warning. It sounds like what they may want to do is set the timer up to give you a chance to get to the gate. Sounds like a flaw - petition it.
But then again, I wonder how many people warp into a bubble with no warnings at all and get popped. Sorry, I can't support your idea any further.
Well, bubbles are player made, the other thing is a game feature. You dont get warning either when you are about to enter a low sec gatecamp, however just like bubbles, these are player made and not npcs you cant kill, no matter your numbers and ships..
True, I can't argue that point. I was just making a reference to you being a self-proclaimed pirate and the victims who have fallen into your trap.
But, back to my original idea - I would recommend a petition. As it does sound like the timers maybe set incorrectly. This of course is quite possible after they made some of the changes to try and prevent gate camps by placing ships further away from the gate when they jump they may have forgotten to recalculate how long it takes a pilot to get back to the gate after they received the warning. ________________________
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet! 
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: prathe ccp promised you a space game and you got it
they never promised you wouldn't $uck at it 
Must be nice to be so perfect that you never to make any mistakes in EVE, too bad it comes at the price of a brain and the ability to argue for your point of wiew.
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:46:00 -
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Also there is the autopilot setting to stay low sec. If the course does go through high sec youll see the coloured dot on the left of the screen for the waypoints set. I have never had any problems staying out og high sec if i have needed to.
Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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Dople ganger
Gallente SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: prathe ccp promised you a space game and you got it
they never promised you wouldn't $uck at it 
Must be nice to be so perfect that you never to make any mistakes in EVE, too bad it comes at the price of a brain and the ability to argue for your point of wiew.
My philosophy is we play this game the hardcore - red tag bullseye mode on... :)
Always put auto pilot to your destination even when you know where you are going. When drunk it helps, the dot ain't green and the gate IS yellow.
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Stakhanov
The Good Fellas
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:47:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the navy spawns were never meant to spare outlaws. 99% webbing kind of goes against the "leave now" message they send. Besides , by boosting back to the gate you are subject to the session change timer , which means you can't survive in any ship that can't tank the spawns. If you're even just a little bit short on cap boosters , your BS / BC may die.
It is an anti-pirate game mechanic. Something deliberately implemented to cause pirates grief - not just a consequence of their actions.
I'm ok with that , Eve is supposed to be a hardcore , unforgiving game. But next time you're being griefed , keep in mind we are merely perpetuating the spiral of gratuitous violence.
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Rilus
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Indigentia Agreed, Grun.
I did a silly thing and got drunk while roaming, not a good thing . jumped into a high sec system and got popped. Warnings would be appriciated.
And for all you carebears out there, saying "You're a pirate, deal with it", I have but one thing to say;
- Being a pirate is a feature. As such, we should be treated as paying customers and get the same usefull warnings (albeit changed) etc that all the miners n' ratters have.
jumping from lowsec to highsec warnings for peeps with bad sec status!
Calling people Carebears when you're whining about being killed for having low sec? Irony much?
It's fine. L2P
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Miki Fin
Gallente Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: prathe ccp promised you a space game and you got it
they never promised you wouldn't $uck at it 
Must be nice to be so perfect that you never to make any mistakes in EVE, too bad it comes at the price of a brain and the ability to argue for your point of wiew.
You know, CCP have provided you with the tools, maybe you should engage your brain before undocking. Oh, I'm afraid stupidity isn't petionable either.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:57:00 -
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Pirates are supposed to be savvy.
Fail. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: JamnOne
Originally by: Grunanca "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Ok, it looks like you got your warning. It sounds like what they may want to do is set the timer up to give you a chance to get to the gate. Sounds like a flaw - petition it.
But then again, I wonder how many people warp into a bubble with no warnings at all and get popped. Sorry, I can't support your idea any further.
they get the your jumping into a system with no concord protection warning. if this wasn't there your point would be valid.
or we can just take away the warning that you are about to jump into space. the should be able to use the map too 
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Layla Ashley
Amarr Children of Avalon Avateas Blessed
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Posted - 2007.11.26 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: JamnOne
Originally by: Grunanca "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Ok, it looks like you got your warning. It sounds like what they may want to do is set the timer up to give you a chance to get to the gate. Sounds like a flaw - petition it.
But then again, I wonder how many people warp into a bubble with no warnings at all and get popped. Sorry, I can't support your idea any further.
they get the your jumping into a system with no concord protection warning. if this wasn't there your point would be valid.
or we can just take away the warning that you are about to jump into space. the should be able to use the map too 
pirats/ppl with low sec know what they are doing (what low sec/high sec is). newbies might not know what lowsec is (or the danger there). therefore, warning from highsec -> lowsec and lowsec -> highsec are totally different thinks and cannot be compared.
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Ed Anger
Weekly World News
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Posted - 2007.11.26 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca So today I finally fell in the trap... Usually flying in deep low sec space in a known area I dont really have the problem with high sec... However today I went roaming and we needed a probelauncher, so I buy one 1 jump away and go for it. "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Would it screw anyone up if entering space you will be deemed an enemy in, triggered a dangerous act warning, just like so many other thing?
CCP, I think I speak for a many pirates when I say that this point needs a warning message.
this is teh funneh
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.26 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Layla Ashley
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: JamnOne
Originally by: Grunanca "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Ok, it looks like you got your warning. It sounds like what they may want to do is set the timer up to give you a chance to get to the gate. Sounds like a flaw - petition it.
But then again, I wonder how many people warp into a bubble with no warnings at all and get popped. Sorry, I can't support your idea any further.
they get the your jumping into a system with no concord protection warning. if this wasn't there your point would be valid.
or we can just take away the warning that you are about to jump into space. the should be able to use the map too 
pirats/ppl with low sec know what they are doing (what low sec/high sec is). newbies might not know what lowsec is (or the danger there). therefore, warning from highsec -> lowsec and lowsec -> highsec are totally different thinks and cannot be compared.
are you saying cant be noobs. you would be surprised.
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