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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.26 21:26:00 -
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Welcome to EVE, where if you make a mistake you pay for it.
The "exiting hi-sec" warnings are there to protect newbs who may not yet understand what the purdy colored dots on the autopilot list are for. Any self-respecting outlaw/pirate/terrorist should be slightly beyond that level of experience.
-------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING! |

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.26 21:45:00 -
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Sighs. You wannabe pirates disgust me but for the game balance and user issue, I support your proposal for warning message for newb pirates if there isn't one already. :) --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |

Miss Tigkill
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Posted - 2007.11.26 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca
Would it screw anyone up if entering space you will be deemed an enemy in, triggered a dangerous act warning, just like so many other thing?
CCP, I think I speak for a many pirates when I say that this point needs a warning message.
hahahahahahaha
A pirate wanting to be protected......hahahahahahaha
Why not tell nonpirates when they are warping to pirates? If I get my warning, you can have yours.
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Travis Trent
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Posted - 2007.11.26 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Erim Solfara [...]why should you outlaws not have to face the consequences of your low sec stat? Faction police aren't gonna warn a wanted criminal that they're waiting for him at they?
QFT.
The hisec to losec warning is for law-abiding citizens whose legitimate business pursuits may occasionally take them into the less desirable areas of the galaxy.
It's often felt that asking a criminal's permission prior to the arrest is counterproductive to effective law enforcement.

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DeadDuck
Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.26 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Travis Trent
Originally by: Erim Solfara [...]why should you outlaws not have to face the consequences of your low sec stat? Faction police aren't gonna warn a wanted criminal that they're waiting for him at they?
QFT.
The hisec to losec warning is for law-abiding citizens whose legitimate business pursuits may occasionally take them into the less desirable areas of the galaxy.
It's often felt that asking a criminal's permission prior to the arrest is counterproductive to effective law enforcement.

Well some of my time is passed killing pirates in low sec, so my sec status of 5 is now on 1.6 and doomed to go negative... cant see the problem of actully receive a warning 
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FreeMarket
Incognito Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.26 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: FreeMarket on 26/11/2007 23:00:07
Should your newb victims get a warning, "You are about to travel into low-sec and get your (1) T1 frig destroyed by a (12 Man) HAC gang who would rather gank you than a gang their own size?!"
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.26 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca
Well, bubbles are player made, the other thing is a game feature. You dont get warning either when you are about to enter a low sec gatecamp, however just like bubbles, these are player made and not npcs you cant kill, no matter your numbers and ships..
iirc your sec status is player made as well you chose the pirate life so get an alt hauler like the rest of the pirates & quit asking ccp to make this game idiot proof empire is already easy enough
If babies were not meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be hibachi sized.
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Gloups
Caldari Black Rampage
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Posted - 2007.11.26 23:41:00 -
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Please remove high sec space.
oh wait...
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.11.26 23:44:00 -
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use the map like we all have to. you will be asking for a blow to bits button next.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly
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Posted - 2007.11.26 23:52:00 -
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i did this once. warped into a 1.0 sec system when i was -2.01 sec status.
Had over a bill worth of bpc's / salvage / minerals / goods in my haulagrim, got locked before i could cloaked =(
at least I had enough sense to jettison my cargo, and have one of my buddies come pick it all up in a hauler before it got ganked 
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Erim Solfara
Amarr House of Solfara
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Posted - 2007.11.27 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Travis Trent
Originally by: Erim Solfara [...]why should you outlaws not have to face the consequences of your low sec stat? Faction police aren't gonna warn a wanted criminal that they're waiting for him at they?
QFT.
The hisec to losec warning is for law-abiding citizens whose legitimate business pursuits may occasionally take them into the less desirable areas of the galaxy.
It's often felt that asking a criminal's permission prior to the arrest is counterproductive to effective law enforcement.

Well some of my time is passed killing pirates in low sec, so my sec status of 5 is now on 1.6 and doomed to go negative... cant see the problem of actully receive a warning 
So stop illegally killing players in lowsec?
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Gavin Neltharek
Caldari Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.27 00:45:00 -
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Had this happen to me just last week. I was soo used to having the ability to enter high sec that after my angry podkill I took my Geddon into a high sec system forgetting the consequences. Cried a little but then laughed it off and kept moving.
The interesting comment about being a pirate and learn to deal with it is comical. ANyone want to imagine the ****storm that'd be kicked up if the low sec warning was suddenly removed? <----------------------------------> Carebears aren't people, they're giant flying piniatas.
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Komachi
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Posted - 2007.11.27 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Komachi on 27/11/2007 01:21:44
Originally by: Helen Hunts I'm reminded from a scene in the Jim Carey movie, "Liar, Liar" Carey's character has had a rough day as a lawyer who isn't able to lie in any manner. "Sir, (Rich, famous, but scoff-law) is on line 2. He's in jail again and wants advice on what to do." "QUIT BREAKING THE LAW, A******!"
What more needs to be said. Your the big bad rat so go steel a brain and try useing the MAP!!!!
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.11.27 01:20:00 -
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I'm pretty certain the message "[PLAYER] the [EMPIRE] does not tolerate pirates!" etc announcement constitutes warning enough, tbh.... - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.27 04:14:00 -
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/signed
If there is a warning for positive sec status players (carebears) going to low sec, then there should be a warning for low sec status players (pirates) going to high sec, if for no other reason than consistency.
The whole sec status thing is screwy anyway and should be scraped, but that's another thread.
-AS
The Real Space Initiative (Forum Link) |

Baleur
Miners In Barges Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.11.27 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: SirMoric The easy answer is: "use the map"
The old answer is: "can I have your stuff?"
My answer is: "you're the pirate.... deal with it"
rgds
its kinda hard to use the map when the F11 map just shows up as white squares and then crashes the game.. Or you want me to use the huge fullscreen map while flying? How i ask.. ^^
------------------------- This post represents my entire alliance views and opinions. Not.. ;( |

Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.27 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Pirates are supposed to be savvy.
Fail.
This is what happens when all the rums gone.
----- Four paws... four sets of claws. |

Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2007.11.27 08:52:00 -
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Why not add a warning. It's not as if it'll really help them. Those who think before entering won't lose their ship. Those who don't think probably end up disabling the warning sooner or later.
Makes sense, role-play wise, IMO. The ship does have some basic AI and probably knows your ratings, and the gate surely talks about what lies beyond it.
Why wouldn't the ship, or the gate give a warning "You're not wanted. Begone!". |

umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2007.11.27 09:21:00 -
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Waterfall of carebear tears itt...
This change would be good, or maybe a customizable option so you can set a warning for high to low sec jumps or low to 0.0 jumps etc so everyones happy.
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Vokan Tain
Gallente SKULLDOGS
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Posted - 2007.11.27 11:06:00 -
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when noobs and carebears post "oh no, I got suicided in empire" all you whining pirates post is "There are NO safe places in EVE, get with it and learn the mechanics of EVE,otherwise can I have your stuff?"
my reply to the poor poor pirates in this thread :
"There are NO safe places in EVE, get with it and learn the mechanics of EVE,otherwise can I have your stuff?"
you guys are pathetic
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Nigel Sheldon
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Posted - 2007.11.27 11:29:00 -
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this really really has to be a joke doesn't it! You choose the life of crime, deal with it....if you are too dumb to be able to realise the consquences of your actions then that is your problem. maybe the pirates could give us warning when we fall into their trap..."ok in 10 seconds we are gonna start shooting at you!" get real.... if you can't play the game properly, don't bother to play at all!
my god that was the funniest thread i have read in 4 years of playing!!
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.11.27 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: SirMoric The easy answer is: "use the map"
The old answer is: "can I have your stuff?"
My answer is: "you're the pirate.... deal with it"
rgds
WTF man he is dealing with it and just making a suggestion.
If ppl don't tick the box they get a warning everytime they try to activate a gate into lowsec so should they nerf this and should lowsec pilots say "you're a carebear deal with it"? 
[orange]*snip* Do not use your signature to troll or insult other EVE players *snip - I somehow doubt Rauth put that :) Cortes* yeah he did I promise... Shae* -Rauth Kivaro (mods@ccpg |

Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.27 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca So today I finally fell in the trap... Usually flying in deep low sec space in a known area I dont really have the problem with high sec... However today I went roaming and we needed a probelauncher, so I buy one 1 jump away and go for it. "Warning, you have entered gallente space, leave now or be destroyed". Okay, I haed for the gate, activate MWD and 5.5km from the gate my rapier goes boom.
Would it screw anyone up if entering space you will be deemed an enemy in, triggered a dangerous act warning, just like so many other thing?
CCP, I think I speak for a many pirates when I say that this point needs a warning message.
Sure, you can have your warning. Just so long as I can also have one when there's a gate camp in my way.  -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |

Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.11.27 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: FreeMarket Edited by: FreeMarket on 26/11/2007 23:00:07
Should your newb victims get a warning, "You are about to travel into low-sec and get your (1) T1 frig destroyed by a (12 Man) HAC gang who would rather gank you than a gang their own size?!"
You do, unless you've disabled it.
Plus, faction navies are tougher, don't drop any loot, and camp every damn gate, the lazy killmail-greedy slobs, and they lock you down faster then any low-sec gate camp.
If you could loot their 99% webbers and ultra faction sensor boosters, I see low-sec pirates going to high-sec in ultra-mega-tanked ships to kill them, but they drop nothing actually 
I've lost a total of about 15M to faction navies due to two navigation errors and one attempt to get through in a nano-Rifter: I got caught in 1.0. These things happen - and, yes, a warning would be nice. Don't see it as mandatory.
It's funny you get the "criminals will not be tolerated here, leave now or be destroyed" when you are already there, and they lock you down in anywhere from 2s to 1s (for 1.0).
The funny thing is, with pirates completely disabled to go to high-sec, we just have to resort to alts and meta-gaming for this, something I don't really believe to be good for the game.
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Ladyah Liandri
A GmbH
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Posted - 2007.11.27 13:04:00 -
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Yeah it should be like in real life you know.
Like when police catches a murderer and let him go immediatly with a warning: "Just to inform you: we were looking for you since you killed someone. But next time we'll arrest you".
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.27 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Killerz Ahem? Pirate whine??
I wonder if you get the same warning for bubble?
Warning your about to jump into Interdicter Bubble
Id buy that for a dollar.
Maybe you could make a living selling those. Like the people selling fake radar detectors in real life :-p
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.11.27 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ladyah Liandri Yeah it should be like in real life you know.
Like when police catches a murderer and let him go immediatly with a warning: "Just to inform you: we were looking for you since you killed someone. But next time we'll arrest you".
Yes, and where police are invunerable, have the best army anywhere, have guns so good they don't even exist yet, unlimited manpower, show up on every crime scene 5-10s after, instantly disable a criminal, cannot be bribed, stopped or escaped in any fashion. Also, when you go to shady neighboorhood, a window with a warning pops up in front of your face.
"Just like RL, you know". You fail.
This is EvE, a spaceships game, and quite definitely not RL in any way.
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Kjetilen
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Posted - 2007.11.27 13:22:00 -
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you are devotet to making life hell for evryone else, wy shuld they help you?
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.27 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Travis Trent
Originally by: Erim Solfara [...]why should you outlaws not have to face the consequences of your low sec stat? Faction police aren't gonna warn a wanted criminal that they're waiting for him at they?
QFT.
The hisec to losec warning is for law-abiding citizens whose legitimate business pursuits may occasionally take them into the less desirable areas of the galaxy.
It's often felt that asking a criminal's permission prior to the arrest is counterproductive to effective law enforcement.

Well some of my time is passed killing pirates in low sec, so my sec status of 5 is now on 1.6 and doomed to go negative... cant see the problem of actully receive a warning 
That's something of a corollary problem. We should not be taking sec status hits for nailing negative status players.
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Ikserak tai
Caldari Ghengis Tia Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.27 14:56:00 -
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Give me a break. Is this whole topic a joke intended to get a rise out of everyone? Like a real pirate would ever mentally entertain the concept of fair play. Sheesh.... YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED. |
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