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Awox
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Posted - 2007.12.04 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fallen Ninja
Originally by: umop 3pisdn Be nice if the devs took a stance against logging... chaos are clearly admitting it itt...
btw jumping clears aggro again...
gg ccp
your right, but these nubs had a dictor bubbling our des gates, and gates we would jump into to try and delay us for thier assault. they blatently lied about not knowing we had freighters.
"We knew they had us pinned. It was either log off or fight them. THEY WAS AFTER OUR FREIGHTERS!"
Originally by: Fallen Ninja and as my last comment i would like to say we will be dealing with advl, so lets everyone please get back to killing BOB and thier friends.
Please make a 3rd last comment and explain to me how you will deal with ADVL..  -- ADVL CEO. (LootTrack|For Sale|KillBoard) |

Larsonist
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Posted - 2007.12.04 01:11:00 -
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Since somehow my entire post got deleted..let me explain awox. If i have learned one thing in EvE its that players will do whatever they can to get ahead rather that be pwning people and/or surviving. This logic can be explained by the use of everyone and their pet dog using damps/ecm/nos/whatever flavor of the month setup possible. if you think for one second we are going to give you freighters on a platter just because you and other people of debatable intelligence feel it is the "idealistic" thing to do you are sadly wrong. These particular "ninja" ops with freighters we run are designed specifically for AVOIDING fighting due to us not having acceptable support at the time of the op and we decide to not only not engange hostiles but to protect the freighters from probable death by getting them off grid. Logofski tactics are totally valid and save assets. If you are upset that you were unable to get some freighter kills maybe you should evaluate your own FC capabilties or commend us on properly avoiding, as we desire to do in these specific ops, your roaming carebear with teeth gangs.
You are more than welcome to wait for us to come to you or you can come to us and see that we will not do such a tactic in normal freighter ops with proper support and/or combat ops. I find it bizarre that you wish that our freighters should be sacrificed to you when we are specifically attempting to avoid combat. in this case, your wish shall not be granted. if you dont like it, tough.
p.s. regardless of whether you were going for the support and had no clue we had freighters, there is nothing you can say that will make sense because your logic requires altering how we choose to run a op. If CCP deems this unacceptable, then we shall adapt and be forced to do properly supported freighter ops all the time which we do as well now. until then its fine...deal with it bro.
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Awox
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Posted - 2007.12.04 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Larsonist Since somehow my entire post got deleted..let me explain awox. If i have learned one thing in EvE its that players will do whatever they can to get ahead rather that be pwning people and/or surviving. This logic can be explained by the use of everyone and their pet dog using damps/ecm/nos/whatever flavor of the month setup possible. if you think for one second we are going to give you freighters on a platter just because you and other people of debatable intelligence feel it is the "idealistic" thing to do you are sadly wrong. These particular "ninja" ops with freighters we run are designed specifically for AVOIDING fighting due to us not having acceptable support at the time of the op and we decide to not only not engange hostiles but to protect the freighters from probable death by getting them off grid. Logofski tactics are totally valid and save assets. If you are upset that you were unable to get some freighter kills maybe you should evaluate your own FC capabilties or commend us on properly avoiding, as we desire to do in these specific ops, your roaming carebear with teeth gangs.
You are more than welcome to wait for us to come to you or you can come to us and see that we will not do such a tactic in normal freighter ops with proper support and/or combat ops. I find it bizarre that you wish that our freighters should be sacrificed to you when we are specifically attempting to avoid combat. in this case, your wish shall not be granted. if you dont like it, tough.
p.s. regardless of whether you were going for the support and had no clue we had freighters, there is nothing you can say that will make sense because your logic requires altering how we choose to run a op. If CCP deems this unacceptable, then we shall adapt and be forced to do properly supported freighter ops all the time which we do as well now. until then its fine...deal with it bro.
Larsonist
Yeah, let's reevaluate my FC capabilities. I'm not the one that had to log off an entire gang just to avoid PvP, remember? Maybe you should rename your FC rank to QC (Ctrl-Q/Quit Commander), has a ring to it, right? 
It's just so horrible I am so stupid and newbish and incompetent that I was unable to kill one freighter in the 60 odd seconds before it disappeared, and we could not even get a lock on the other one we probed..  -- ADVL CEO. (LootTrack|For Sale|KillBoard) |

Larsonist
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Posted - 2007.12.04 01:40:00 -
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Quote: It's just so horrible I am so stupid and newbish and incompetent that I was unable to kill one freighter in the 60 odd seconds before it disappeared, and we could not even get a lock on the other one we probed..
atleast you admit it...sarcasim off right
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Larsonist
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Posted - 2007.12.04 01:44:00 -
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I think the main concern we have with these kinds of ops is not only how risky they can be if we are not johnny on the spot..but that even though the odds may be equal and even juicy, we do not know if we will get instantly owned by caps being dropped in on us or that we have no clue if you have more support enroute. these factors are the reasons why these ops do what they do and **** you off so horribly. by the way, who cares...this is not a shameful thing to do bro. it is a sensible thing to do. i am in no way ashamed of us using this tactic while attempting such a dangerous transport.
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Awox
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Posted - 2007.12.04 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Larsonist I think the main concern we have with these kinds of ops is not only how risky they can be if we are not johnny on the spot..but that even though the odds may be equal and even juicy, we do not know if we will get instantly owned by caps being dropped in on us or that we have no clue if you have more support enroute. these factors are the reasons why these ops do what they do and **** you off so horribly. by the way, who cares...this is not a shameful thing to do bro. it is a sensible thing to do. i am in no way ashamed of us using this tactic while attempting such a dangerous transport.
Don't fly it if you can't afford to lose it! -- ADVL CEO. (LootTrack|For Sale|KillBoard) |

Gyle
Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Awox
Originally by: alpheon Then theres the fact that its just a game. I'll just put it on the table. I don't think theres anyone here who's ever *NOT* logged off a high-value ship just to save it.
If it's just a game. Why cheat to get ahead?
Lol's cant beleive hes still whining about this. Awox you nooblephile logging isnt cheating. If it was cheating you would be abel to petition it. But you can't. well you could try i guess but the GMs would probably laugh at you as much as everyone else does.
Especially when you start forcing this laughable exhausted thread into other peoples threads.
Awox missing the point of a different thread and peeps laughing at him because of it.
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fire 59
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Posted - 2007.12.04 21:31:00 -
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Loggers should be dragged into the street and shot (Rp) . It's a game and you were so frightened of losing virtual money and a pixel ship you pulled the plug. If someone catches you with your pants down, you should die but this ancient dinasaur of a dodgy system still enables those of a feeble nature to flee at will.
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Gyle
Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 Loggers should be dragged into the street and shot (Rp) . It's a game and you were so frightened of losing virtual money and a pixel ship you pulled the plug. If someone catches you with your pants down, you should die but this ancient dinasaur of a dodgy system still enables those of a feeble nature to flee at will.
I guess your another one who fails to catch things. cry me a river.
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