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Seth Quantix Domination. Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.03 09:14:00 - [61] Originally by: Awox Originally by: Shinori Originally by: Dafuzz I hate it when that happens too. Tholarim and Fire 59 seem to think it's a fine tactic. Did you post here just for the sake of posting? You do know you are allied with Red Alliance, right? PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.12.03 09:21:00 - [62] Try petitioning them, as if those freighters logged with PvP timer and just 'vanished' from space then it's likely that they logged on alt on same account to 'force' them disappear from space. That is assuming that freighter pilots were present in local until they logged and disappeared. If they logged while webbed then that timer would have ran out anyway after 15 minutes and they would have just dissapeared even if under fire. It is not classed officially as exploit ofc as far as I'm aware but sometimes you get lucky and logger gets warning for avoiding pvp timer.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.03 09:45:00 - [63] Edited by: fire 59 on 03/12/2007 09:45:46 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Dafuzz I hate it when that happens too. If you don't tolerate it in other alliances, why do you tolerate it in your own? I think most corp/alliances frown upon logging from combat but you can't help the odd person logging, even in your own alliance you have had people logging from combat so no one is innocent and it falls upon the individual or the ceos to keep a clean house. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdd74kLxgGo
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.03 09:57:00 - [64] Random EVE player:"Boohoo, I dont want my ship to get killed. booohoo, I wanna be imortal. Bohoo, i wanna this game to become WoW." CCP: "Ok, majority of players are kids not wanting to sacrifice much of brain cells which they lack anyway, so we will make this game bit easier. God forbid, we know that majority of players have PC's that crash down every half an hour, so they shouldnt die anyway. ITS JUST NOT FAIR" CCP2: "Dont forget that majority of players make us richer more then minority" CCP: "I know you fool. Thats why we doing it this way. easier and easier. I dont wanna make this game too complex for those with IQ 45". CCP 3: " Hold on guys. You know that online gaming market is developing faster and faster. We wont be able to compete with "EVEonline PACMAN" against other entuziastic developers,so, we will lose even those with IQ 45 in near future" CCP: "Shut up and bring me coffie number 3" me, myself and I ------>
WilWheaton GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:01:00 - [65] haha because advanced logistics has never done login traps before snip Signature removed and locked. Email us if you want it unlocked. -Ivan K
Alice Cholmondeley I Am Legend	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:02:00 - [66] Originally by: WilWheaton haha because advanced logistics has never done login traps before haha, Goons care.
WilWheaton GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:09:00 - [67] Edited by: WilWheaton on 03/12/2007 10:08:50 I've proudly login trapped a freighter and many other things, I just find the double standard by the op funny snip Signature removed and locked. Email us if you want it unlocked. -Ivan K
Alice Cholmondeley I Am Legend	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:10:00 - [68] Originally by: WilWheaton Edited by: WilWheaton on 03/12/2007 10:08:50 I've proudly login trapped a freighter and many other things, I just find the double standard by the op funny Goons crying about double standards is what i find funny.
WilWheaton GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:13:00 - [69] welp snip Signature removed and locked. Email us if you want it unlocked. -Ivan K
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:17:00 - [70] Originally by: Darcuese Random EVE player:"Boohoo, I dont want my ship to get killed. booohoo, I wanna be imortal. Bohoo, i wanna this game to become WoW." CCP: "Ok, majority of players are kids not wanting to sacrifice much of brain cells which they lack anyway, so we will make this game bit easier. God forbid, we know that majority of players have PC's that crash down every half an hour, so they shouldnt die anyway. ITS JUST NOT FAIR" CCP2: "Dont forget that majority of players make us richer more then minority" CCP: "I know you fool. Thats why we doing it this way. easier and easier. I dont wanna make this game too complex for those with IQ 45". CCP 3: " Hold on guys. You know that online gaming market is developing faster and faster. We wont be able to compete our "EVEonline PACMAN" against other entuziastic developers,so, we will lose even those with IQ 45 in near future" CCP: "Shut up and bring me coffie, you CCP3 noob" Testing. Oh, it work. ok. me, myself and I ------>

Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:21:00 - [71] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: WilWheaton Edited by: WilWheaton on 03/12/2007 10:08:50 I've proudly login trapped a freighter and many other things, I just find the double standard by the op funny Goons crying about double standards is what i find funny. Forum alts crying about Goons crying about Awox crying about Chaos logging is what I find funny
Alice Cholmondeley I Am Legend	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:23:00 - [72] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Forum alts crying about Goons crying about Awox crying about Chaos logging is what I find funny Unless you got one of those dancing monkeys with the funny hats on there is not much else i find funny about you.
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Karjala Inc. Onnenpyora	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:29:00 - [73] warp ctrl+q bug is lame. Not going to accuse anyone for using it though. Since everyone can do it. They should fix it though.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:33:00 - [74] I love you Awox.
Jean Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.03 14:09:00 - [75] Originally by: Fallen Ninja if goon can do, we can do it. its just that simple. ur willingly and knowingly comparing urself to goons?! 0_o
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.03 15:26:00 - [76] More drone region failed-logoffski hilarity, this time with Chaos Incarnate allies, Ethereal Dawn. I am in Rapier scouting for our Occator (It was moving tech II production stuff for a client) and I come across a pirate Drake. My backup is 2 jumps out. I tackle the Drake hoping I can hold him long enough for my gang to get here from 2-3 jumps out, everything is just fine until a Cerberus jumps through the gate and starts attacking me aswell.. My backup was still 2 or 3 jumps out at this time, and I figured I would just try again further up the pipe and hope the Cerberus doesn't come to his aid a second time.. I warp to the next gate, and I am about to jump in.. when local empties. They logged off. Had the scan result when the gang rocked up, we cleaned up the offline-pirates and our transport went on it's way. Also, I would like to thank IRON pilots for their business, I hope you were pleased with our service. The Christmas bonuses were most generous. -- ADVL CEO. LootTrack Sales KB
Gyle Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.12.03 15:38:00 - [77] Edited by: Gyle on 03/12/2007 15:39:57 Originally by: Awox More drone region failed-logoffski hilarity, this time with Chaos Incarnate allies, Ethereal Dawn. I am in Rapier scouting for our Occator (It was moving tech II production stuff for a client) and I come across a pirate Drake. My backup is 2 jumps out. I tackle the Drake hoping I can hold him long enough for my gang to get here from 2-3 jumps out, everything is just fine until a Cerberus jumps through the gate and starts attacking me aswell.. My backup was still 2 or 3 jumps out at this time, and I figured I would just try again further up the pipe and hope the Cerberus doesn't come to his aid a second time.. I warp to the next gate, and I am about to jump in.. when local empties. They logged off. Had the scan result when the gang rocked up, we cleaned up the offline-pirates and our transport went on it's way. Also, I would like to thank IRON pilots for their business, I hope you were pleased with our service. The Christmas bonuses were most generous. Geez Awox STFU. You are really embarissing yourself now. CHAOS is neutral to Etherial Dawn and we have been fighting em in IRC space. Tip for the future. If you dont know much about a topic then dont talk about it. Otherwise people might call you out for being a noob in a 14 man unafiliated cargo transporting... Oh wait... never mind. PS another Tip for buisness, if you want to gain new contracts for logistics perhaps it would be better to rafrain from making flippant and naive comments about all your potential customers.
UnsignedInt Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 15:45:00 - [78] Originally by: Gyle Edited by: Gyle on 03/12/2007 15:39:57 Originally by: Awox More drone region failed-logoffski hilarity, this time with Chaos Incarnate allies, Ethereal Dawn. I am in Rapier scouting for our Occator (It was moving tech II production stuff for a client) and I come across a pirate Drake. My backup is 2 jumps out. I tackle the Drake hoping I can hold him long enough for my gang to get here from 2-3 jumps out, everything is just fine until a Cerberus jumps through the gate and starts attacking me aswell.. My backup was still 2 or 3 jumps out at this time, and I figured I would just try again further up the pipe and hope the Cerberus doesn't come to his aid a second time.. I warp to the next gate, and I am about to jump in.. when local empties. They logged off. Had the scan result when the gang rocked up, we cleaned up the offline-pirates and our transport went on it's way. Also, I would like to thank IRON pilots for their business, I hope you were pleased with our service. The Christmas bonuses were most generous. Geez Awox STFU. You are really embarissing yourself now. CHAOS is neutral to Etherial Dawn and we have been fighting em in IRC space. Tip for the future. If you dont know much about a topic then dont talk about it. Otherwise people might call you out for being a noob in a 14 man unafiliated cargo transporting... Oh wait... never mind. PS another Tip for buisness, if you want to gain new contracts for logistics perhaps it would be better to rafrain from making flippant and naive comments about all your potential customers. If you honestly think Awox is actually into logistics, I have a jump bridge in delve I'd like to sell you.
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.03 15:48:00 - [79] Originally by: UnsignedInt Originally by: Gyle Edited by: Gyle on 03/12/2007 15:39:57 Originally by: Awox More drone region failed-logoffski hilarity, this time with Chaos Incarnate allies, Ethereal Dawn. I am in Rapier scouting for our Occator (It was moving tech II production stuff for a client) and I come across a pirate Drake. My backup is 2 jumps out. I tackle the Drake hoping I can hold him long enough for my gang to get here from 2-3 jumps out, everything is just fine until a Cerberus jumps through the gate and starts attacking me aswell.. My backup was still 2 or 3 jumps out at this time, and I figured I would just try again further up the pipe and hope the Cerberus doesn't come to his aid a second time.. I warp to the next gate, and I am about to jump in.. when local empties. They logged off. Had the scan result when the gang rocked up, we cleaned up the offline-pirates and our transport went on it's way. Also, I would like to thank IRON pilots for their business, I hope you were pleased with our service. The Christmas bonuses were most generous. Geez Awox STFU. You are really embarissing yourself now. CHAOS is neutral to Etherial Dawn and we have been fighting em in IRC space. Tip for the future. If you dont know much about a topic then dont talk about it. Otherwise people might call you out for being a noob in a 14 man unafiliated cargo transporting... Oh wait... never mind. PS another Tip for buisness, if you want to gain new contracts for logistics perhaps it would be better to rafrain from making flippant and naive comments about all your potential customers. If you honestly think Awox is actually into logistics, I have a jump bridge in delve I'd like to sell you. Am I buying just one jump bridge POS, or a pair? If so, where are they? I am very interested in cutting down fuel costs. -- ADVL CEO. LootTrack Sales KB
Fabienne Runestar Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 16:56:00 - [80] Simple solution to this, makes everyone happy! Institute a log off timer similar to the self destruct timer. Except Any keypress, and or mouse click stops it. Set it for 30 seconds and be done with it. Mechanics are simple. Go to log off, 30 second timer comes one the screen. If your attacked, or move in that 30 seconds it stops. You stay logged in. If not bye your gone, adios, not scanable, not findable. Gone period! Bye bye! If you can't blow up a sub capital ship in 30 seconds you don't deserve to be shootin it. As for Capitals, well you shoot them when they log off, they don't log off you continue to shoot. But the pilot gets a warning, hey I'm being shot at I can't log off! Help alliance mates come save me! Here get a gang going, warp to me! Blah blah! As for the whole logging off, I fully support it. Done it more than once and will do it again. I do it when my numbers dont match the numbers going to be attacking me. I do it when escorting freighters. Sorry 12b in a freighter's hold is worth more to me than my personal ship. I don't care about my ship but my freighter load is my corporations goods. If you come after my freighter damn straight I'm logging them off. My combat arm will stick around though and fight if need be. Every ship will die if they have to. --- Eve has taught me that Evil will always triumph, because Good is mysteriously unable to log in to defend it's assets.

Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.03 17:08:00 - [81] Originally by: Fabienne Runestar If you can't blow up a sub capital ship in 30 seconds you don't deserve to be shootin it. Yes, because everyone should roll in a 5000 dps gang just to kill a battleship in 30 seconds incase it logs off to make up for a tactical error. -- ADVL CEO. (LootTrack\|For Sale\|KillBoard)
Mr Broker Amarr Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.12.03 17:30:00 - [82] Originally by: Awox Originally by: Fabienne Runestar If you can't blow up a sub capital ship in 30 seconds you don't deserve to be shootin it. Yes, because everyone should roll in a 5000 dps gang just to kill a battleship in 30 seconds incase it logs off to make up for a tactical error. i'm glad we agree
Fabienne Runestar Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 17:38:00 - [83] Originally by: Awox Originally by: Fabienne Runestar If you can't blow up a sub capital ship in 30 seconds you don't deserve to be shootin it. Yes, because everyone should roll in a 5000 dps gang just to kill a battleship in 30 seconds incase it logs off to make up for a tactical error. Did you miss the part where I said if your attacked you stay logged in? Maybe I should selectively quote you too. How's this. Originally by: Awox Yes, because everyone should just die to make up for a tactical error. --- Eve has taught me that Evil will always triumph, because Good is mysteriously unable to log in to defend it's assets.
alpheon Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.03 17:48:00 - [84] Then theres the fact that its just a game. I'll just put it on the table. I don't think theres anyone here who's ever NOT logged off a high-value ship just to save it. I see a lot of bob here, I've been in battles where bob titans have logged off. I'm just calling it like I see it. I also encountered Awox last night, and I'm LAMO at his near Role-Play interpretation of when my escort gang ran in to him. So, you were scouting trade routes? Is that what I saw last night? I guess if you see every ship, even ones with a prominent alliance tag on them as pirates, then yeah, I guess everyones a pirate then. If you want to talk about game mechanics, then talk about game mechanics. don't try to spin your "Logistics" its just comedic.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.03 18:21:00 - [85] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 03/12/2007 18:21:18 Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 03/12/2007 09:45:46 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Dafuzz I hate it when that happens too. If you don't tolerate it in other alliances, why do you tolerate it in your own? I think most corp/alliances frown upon logging from combat but you can't help the odd person logging, even in your own alliance you have had people logging from combat so no one is innocent and it falls upon the individual or the ceos to keep a clean house. I was waiting for a reply like this. You're deflecting; I didn't get the first reply in saying how much I hate loggers yet refuse to hold my own alliance accountable for it. Why don't you evemail me a link to a screenshot of someone from PL logging on you, and I'll see that it gets passed up to the right people? Would you be willing to do the same for me?
lol wardecs	Posted - 2007.12.03 18:40:00 - [86] this thread sucks more than a sorority's 25 year reunion
Larsonist	Posted - 2007.12.04 00:43:00 - [87] Thats nice, thanks for deleting my entire post...
Misfitsa Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.04 00:45:00 - [88] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 03/12/2007 18:21:18 Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 03/12/2007 09:45:46 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Dafuzz I hate it when that happens too. If you don't tolerate it in other alliances, why do you tolerate it in your own? I think most corp/alliances frown upon logging from combat but you can't help the odd person logging, even in your own alliance you have had people logging from combat so no one is innocent and it falls upon the individual or the ceos to keep a clean house. I was waiting for a reply like this. You're deflecting; I didn't get the first reply in saying how much I hate loggers yet refuse to hold my own alliance accountable for it. Why don't you evemail me a link to a screenshot of someone from PL logging on you, and I'll see that it gets passed up to the right people? Would you be willing to do the same for me? THESE COLORS DONT RUN
Fallen Ninja Gallente Darkwave Technologies Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.12.04 00:49:00 - [89] and as my last comment i would like to say we will be dealing with advl, so lets everyone please get back to killing BOB and thier friends.
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.04 00:51:00 - [90] Originally by: alpheon Then theres the fact that its just a game. I'll just put it on the table. I don't think theres anyone here who's ever NOT logged off a high-value ship just to save it. If it's just a game. Why cheat to get ahead? Why sling completely out-of-character insults and say vulgar things in local? Why threadnaught? I guess the GoonSwarm stance on seriousness of internet spaceships is rather flexible. Originally by: alpheon I'm just calling it like I see it. You're a goon, so what you see is what you're told. Right? Originally by: alpheon I also encountered Awox last night, and I'm LAMO at his near Role-Play interpretation of when my escort gang ran in to him. Several GoonSwarm pirates attacked me then, don't you remember sitting at a planet for 15 minutes waiting out timer? Originally by: alpheon So, you were scouting trade routes? Is that what I saw last night? I'll admit, I was attempting to learn about GoonSwarm logistics. It's good business sense to stay ahead of the game, learn what type of things GS move so I can make my services more attractive to them. Originally by: alpheon I guess if you see every ship, even ones with a prominent alliance tag on them as pirates, then yeah, I guess everyones a pirate then. Only alliances that have attacked ADVL without provocation. Originally by: alpheon If you want to talk about game mechanics, then talk about game mechanics. don't try to spin your "Logistics" What spin? I don't understand.. -- ADVL CEO. (LootTrack\|For Sale\|KillBoard)



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