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Faithless
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Posted - 2004.03.10 09:25:00 -
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mmm I like anime sigs more than S&M sigs.
Can't agree with you more, although i must say i will use one of charity's made sigs soonish... they're just... arousing 
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 09:28:00 -
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Charity is the best sig maker in Eve... with the possible exception of Riz.
And her new line is amazing...I can't wait for her to roll those sigs out...
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Rothco
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Posted - 2004.03.10 09:45:00 -
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The new sigs are gonna be truely amazing.
Watch this space.....
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.03.10 09:54:00 -
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well i do like all those sigis:)
maybe someone should consider collecting them and make some hall of fame on one of the fan sites:)
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fras
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:18:00 -
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One strain of thought could be that there's something very disrespectful to women when a bunch of men get together and roleplay women in what seems to be a very submissive and oppressed way. In fact, there may be cause for extreme offence.
If it's all in the name of roleplay it's alright though isn't it...
Yes I agree, the artwork is very nice.
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:23:00 -
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fras, there is also something rather offending in being shot in the head. However, in games, it's all right.
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jello
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:26:00 -
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One strain of thought could be that there's something very disrespectful to women when a bunch of men get together and roleplay women in what seems to be a very submissive and oppressed way. In fact, there may be cause for extreme offence.
If it's all in the name of roleplay it's alright though isn't it...
Yes I agree, the artwork is very nice.
And your opinions regarding my roleplaying would be interesting then.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:35:00 -
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One strain of thought could be that there's something very disrespectful to women when a bunch of men get together and roleplay women in what seems to be a very submissive and oppressed way. In fact, there may be cause for extreme offence.
If it's all in the name of roleplay it's alright though isn't it...
Yes I agree, the artwork is very nice.
Again, do not assume that we are all men. Jericho has female players, and they are worse than the men for innuendo, believe me.
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fras
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:45:00 -
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fras, there is also something rather offending in being shot in the head. However, in games, it's all right.
Certain aspects of games are easily detached from reality and others arn't. The social aspect of any game irrespective of setting is the most real of all, it's just a different medium to life outside computers.
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jello
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:50:00 -
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fras, there is also something rather offending in being shot in the head. However, in games, it's all right.
Certain aspects of games are easily detached from reality and others arn't. The social aspect of any game irrespective of setting is the most real of all, it's just a different medium to life outside computers.
You have'nt been drinking my cider have you???
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:01:00 -
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No, fras, in fact it is different. That is what roleplaying is about, and from this we we come back to the square one. To roleplay is among other things to detach the social aspect of the game from reality and detach the character from the players. Failing to understand this leads to these flamewars time after time.
Paople do not understand the concept of detaching themselves from the character. It is not required for every one to do so, that is not what I am implying. Not every one needs to roleplay. But to pass judgement without understanding what is being judged is not wise, and it is being pretty generally done with very little understanding in this and other threads in this forum.
As to whether or not it is a roleplaying game or not, I urge people to see what is the forum one above this.
Again, not every one needs to roleplay, but griefing roleplayers is exactly the same as carebears wanting to remove PvP from Eve. Forcing own playstyle on others.
Respect to other players is very underrated in Eve community, I am sad to notice. This too is because people have trouble detaching themselves from their characters.
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fras
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:02:00 -
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Again, do not assume that we are all men. Jericho has female players, and they are worse than the men for innuendo, believe me.
In a real life setting would that make it ok?
If the answer is no, the only other question is is the social aspect of this game detached enough from reality to not make it offensive to women in any way?
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Fedmahn Kassad
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Fedmahn Kassad on 10/03/2004 11:11:28
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No, fras, in fact it is different. That is what roleplaying is about, and from this we we come back to the square one. To roleplay is among other things to detach the social aspect of the game from reality and detach the character from the players.
I dont think anyone has a problem with males playing females or vice versa. It's just getting to a level now where ppl start to wonder why some of you dont just play Sims Online.
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fras
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:17:00 -
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Karol Kei, IC or OOC, maybe someone would feel exactly the same way?
I respect roleplay and like it myself, it adds alot to the game. However I don't like it when it touches on aspects of reality in an offensive way for no discernable game reason.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:20:00 -
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Again, do not assume that we are all men. Jericho has female players, and they are worse than the men for innuendo, believe me.
In a real life setting would that make it ok?
If the answer is no, the only other question is is the social aspect of this game detached enough from reality to not make it offensive to women in any way?
I get offended by stupidity every day. Look a George Bush. What am I to do, call for a tax on stupid people? Lock all stupid up?
I know what you are trying to say, and its all very worthy, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. I do not feel that anything we do in Eve is demeaning to anyone, if it was, I certainly wouldn't be doing it.
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:22:00 -
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Fedmahn, I don't have a naughty sig, I am nice. ;)
Anyway, the game is still the game, roles are just inserted in that game for fun and laughs for all. It is very hard to see how sex maniacs that some play hurt anyone anymore than playing a murdering lunatics, cannibals, orcs or knights in shining armor etc. If you go down that way, you have to consider all the values of every role. For example in case of a prince on a white stallion you would find them rather male chauvinist, wouldn't you? How about those Minmatar rebels? Uh oh. Etc.
So once again it boils down to detaching characters from players, once that is done, it is all in good humour for those who like that sort of stuff.
Well, it would be, if there weren't all these flamefests that take the wub out of the community and divide it into two with no good reason.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.03.10 12:51:00 -
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Again, do not assume that we are all men. Jericho has female players, and they are worse than the men for innuendo, believe me.
In a real life setting would that make it ok?
If the answer is no, the only other question is is the social aspect of this game detached enough from reality to not make it offensive to women in any way?
Why are you assuming that being submissive is offensive to all women? Many people of both sexes enjoy giving control to another as part of their erotic play. Many people would consider assuming all of any one gender think and feel the same way about anything as offensive.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.03.10 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Fedmahn Kassad on 10/03/2004 11:11:28
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No, fras, in fact it is different. That is what roleplaying is about, and from this we we come back to the square one. To roleplay is among other things to detach the social aspect of the game from reality and detach the character from the players.
I dont think anyone has a problem with males playing females or vice versa. It's just getting to a level now where ppl start to wonder why some of you dont just play Sims Online.
TBH why should Jericho give a crap what those people think? We play the game they way we want. Anyone who doesn't like it can get bent.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:00:00 -
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I like the evol siggies
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slothe
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 10/03/2004 13:25:31
/emote looks at jellos signature closely
my sig has got miso jade and jo on it, looking hot  
/emote looks at own signature, hmmmm, i wonder if its significant that jade is a queen and the other girls are aces......
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Mirus Crosius
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mirus Crosius on 10/03/2004 13:29:48
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my sig has got miso jade and jo on it, looking hot
/emote looks at own signature, hmmmm, i wonder if its significant that jade is a queen and the other girls are aces......
The sig that started it all? Jo and Miso may be aces, but Jade is, and lets be fair here, the Queen of all our hearts.
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:43:00 -
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...Well, I think their signatures are stupid...
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:44:00 -
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I don't know, but as a woman I am seriously offended by Charitiy's signature. It is discriminating.
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jello
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:47:00 -
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...Well, I think their signatures are stupid...
Oh how envy affects the lame.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:48:00 -
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Twin Troll attack!!!
Next time, you might want to make a point on your posts.
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Gozer
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:50:00 -
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my sig has got miso jade and jo on it, looking hot
/emote looks at own signature, hmmmm, i wonder if its significant that jade is a queen and the other girls are aces......
The sig that started it all? Jo and Miso may be aces, but Jade is, and lets be fair here, the Queen of all our hearts.
ahh, mirus! express your true feelings boss. it's good to get intouch with your sensitive side..
i wonder if jericho have open days to take a look around? as long as i'm not strapped down too tightly and the paddle hasn't got too many studs! well there's room for a compromise i suppose.. 
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jakal on 10/03/2004 14:15:24
Kurenin, why is it that all of your posts ive ever seen make me think your constantly trying to quit smoking cigarettes?
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:27:00 -
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Lts be fair its all a bit of harmless fun. If anyone feels the sigs are demeaning or offensive dont look at them! People are too easily offended in my mind...
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fras
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:35:00 -
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Again, do not assume that we are all men. Jericho has female players, and they are worse than the men for innuendo, believe me.
In a real life setting would that make it ok?
If the answer is no, the only other question is is the social aspect of this game detached enough from reality to not make it offensive to women in any way?
Why are you assuming that being submissive is offensive to all women? Many people of both sexes enjoy giving control to another as part of their erotic play. Many people would consider assuming all of any one gender think and feel the same way about anything as offensive.
Maud Dib, read the quote again. I was asking the question hence it's my opinion, singular.
I'm not talking for all women and I take your point. However if the number is 50%, 10% or 1% none are acceptable imo if what I was trying to say has any merit.
This is what I was trying to discuss.
I now see Miso's point of view and it's fair enough. I differ in opinion but I've said all I wanted to say.
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Conrad
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:42:00 -
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I'm for the sigs, adds some spice :) Lord Zap has a point, if you don't like it, don't look at them. Stop expecting the world to cater to your personal beliefs. This directly relates to the world, women are revealing in movies, TV shows etc. Who is to say what they do is not demeaning? Because they are women it's ok?
JF has women in it too, how do you know which women are making the pretty sigs and which that are men pretending to be women?
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