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        |  Liamar
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:19:00 -
          [1] 
 Liamar > <br>[ 2007.12.10 02:05:27 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile belonging to Virrago hits you, doing 27674.6 damage.
 Liamar > ???
 Corporal Viper > whoa
 Phantomas > ?
 UniqueOne > Covert Jump Portal Generator I <br><br>A piece of machinery designed to allow a capital vessel to create a bridge between systems without the use of a stargate, allowing its companions access through vast tracts of space to join it on the battlefield.
 UniqueOne > capital vessel?
 Virrago > game bug sorry
 Phantomas > rofl
 keuel > bug report
 Virrago > yes please bug report
 Liamar > awesome... so a GM goes in and instapops 2 people in FFA with a known bug?
 Virrago > testing purposes
 
 
 So, why did a GM have to come in, instapop me and a m8... then ask us to report it. I highly doubt the 'bug' was on MY side.
 
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        |  Imperator Jora'h
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:22:00 -
          [2] 
 
  Originally by: Liamar So, why did a GM have to come in, instapop me and a m8... then ask us to report it. I highly doubt the 'bug' was on MY side.
 
 
 Dunno. Maybe just how the system works. Bureaucracy FTW! Like they needed to verify that the bug was real by blowing you up then need you to officially start a Bug Report for the record so they can put it on the list of things to do.
 
 Dunno really...just fishing here. I got nothing.
 
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        |  Arana Tellen
 Gallente
 The Blackguard Wolves
 Knights Of the Southerncross
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:22:00 -
          [3] 
 Because its a test server? lol.
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        |  zilllii
 Squirrel Power
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:24:00 -
          [4] 
 
  Originally by: Liamar 
 
 So, why did a GM have to come in, instapop me and a m8... then ask us to report it. I highly doubt the 'bug' was on MY side.
 
 
 virrago is not a GM he is a member of the Bughunting team, you know the guys who totally misplaced boot.ini and POS warfare.
 
 
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:25:00 -
          [5] 
 
  Originally by: Imperator Jora'h 
  Originally by: Liamar So, why did a GM have to come in, instapop me and a m8... then ask us to report it. I highly doubt the 'bug' was on MY side.
 
 
 Dunno. Maybe just how the system works. Bureaucracy FTW! Like they needed to verify that the bug was real by blowing you up then need you to officially start a Bug Report for the record so they can put it on the list of things to do.
 
 Dunno really...just fishing here. I got nothing.
 
 
 
 Maybe he is just trying to blow people cause hes a dork.
 
 Maybe i am wrong but shouldn't the GMs me handling the massive back log of petitions related to implants that were lost, *including my full set of crystals*
 And maybe the back log of POS destruction?
 
 But no shooting people on test server is def what we need.
 
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        |  Blind Man
 Angel Deep Corporation
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:25:00 -
          [6] 
 you can't be serious..
 
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:26:00 -
          [7] 
 
  Originally by: zilllii 
  Originally by: Liamar 
 
 So, why did a GM have to come in, instapop me and a m8... then ask us to report it. I highly doubt the 'bug' was on MY side.
 
 
 virrago is not a GM he is a member of the Bughunting team, you know the guys who totally misplaced boot.ini and POS warfare.
 
 
 
 I stand corrected then.
 
 My fault, if hes a bug hunter then that is where he should be.
 
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        |  Gungankllr
 Caldari
 Salient Uprising
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:36:00 -
          [8] 
 The test server isn't really supposed to be the place where you can go when you want to have free for alls and free ships, it's supposed to be the TEST SERVER.
 
 You know, where they try to find bugs before they go live, or reproduce live bugs to come up with fixes.
 
 Bottom line, it's open to the public as a little nicety on CCP's part, they could rather easily close it to the general public and make it a BH and CCP staff only server, but they let people (the ones that do something other than sit in FFA trying to kill each other) help solve problems.
 
 Anyhow, just my two cents.
 
 
 
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        |  sableye
 principle of motion
 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 02:50:00 -
          [9] 
 what I want to know is what bug was he exploiting on there :)
 
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        |  Grimpak
 Gallente
 Trinity Nova
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 03:01:00 -
          [10] 
 FFA is like the name says btw: "FREE FOR ALL".
 
 you entering there means you're agreeing to anyone to shoot at you.
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 planetary interaction idea!
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        |  NightmareX
 Infinitus Odium
 The Church.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 03:30:00 -
          [11] 
 Edited by: NightmareX on 10/12/2007 03:36:00
 LOL
  
 The Devs / Bug Hunters can do whatever they want to be able to reproduce an eventually bug.
 
 I remember long time ago on sisi when i had a Megathron Federate Issue, and when Sharkbait (Dev) wanted me to help him with something. Then i said yes to that. And warped to where Sharkbait was, and when i had warped into the place, then Sharkbait h4xed my Mega Federate Issue down to 200 armor, and had a Kestrel with 8x Citadel Launchers, and started to shoot me
  
 You can probably guess what happened?
  , no i didn't lose the ship, because Sharbait didn't take much damage with no bonuses to Citadel torps in a Kestrel. 
 He had to take my Mega Federate Issue and trash it and give me a new one, since he couldn't h4x it back to the normal armor hp lol
  . 
 Anyways, ooooooh nooooooes, you got killed on sisi. Now if your DAMN lazy i can understand you that you wont fit up a new ship for free. But if not, then you should not make topics like this on the EVE forum, since it doesn't help you with ANYTHING. it can in the worst case make it worser than it is.
 
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        |  Recog
 Dark Cartel
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 04:39:00 -
          [12] 
 
  Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/12/2007 04:02:39
 LOL
  
 The Devs / Bug Hunters can do whatever they want to be able to reproduce an eventually bug.
 
 I remember long time ago on sisi when i had a Megathron Federate Issue, and when Sharkbait (Dev) wanted me to help him with something. Then i said yes to that. And warped to where Sharkbait was, and when i had warped into the place, then Sharkbait h4xed my Mega Federate Issue down to 200 armor, and had a Kestrel with 8x Citadel Launchers, and started to shoot me
  
 You can probably guess what happened?
  , no i didn't lose the ship, because Sharbait didn't take much damage with no bonuses to Citadel torps in a Kestrel. 
 He had to take my Mega Federate Issue and trash it and give me a new one, since he couldn't h4x it back to the normal armor hp lol
  . 
 Anyways, ooooooh nooooooes, you got killed on sisi. Now if your DAMN lazy i can understand you that you wont fit up a new ship for free. But if not, then you should not make topics like this on the EVE forum, since it doesn't help you with ANYTHING. It can in the worst case make it worser than it is.
 
 
 Says the man who use to fly a CNR around the station never leaving orbit range and never accepted 1vs1s!
 
 sharkbait back in the day = coolness
 
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        |  F'nog
 Amarr
 Celestial Horizon Corp.
 Valainaloce
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 04:41:00 -
          [13] 
 On one hand, it's the test server, so these things can be expected.
 
 On the other, it would be nice if the devs announced they were testing for these sorts of things before hand. You know, a post in local along the lines of: "We're actively testing for bugs. If something strange happens to you, please give us a detailed report of what happened."
 
 
 
  Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari 
 F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
  
 
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 04:42:00 -
          [14] 
 
  Originally by: Gungankllr The test server isn't really supposed to be the place where you can go when you want to have free for alls and free ships, it's supposed to be the TEST SERVER.
 
 You know, where they try to find bugs before they go live, or reproduce live bugs to come up with fixes.
 
 Bottom line, it's open to the public as a little nicety on CCP's part, they could rather easily close it to the general public and make it a BH and CCP staff only server, but they let people (the ones that do something other than sit in FFA trying to kill each other) help solve problems.
 
 Anyhow, just my two cents.
 
 
 
 
 Most companies have test servers open to public, there is no reason to have a test server not open to public, unless you have a huge in house QA team, which, we all know CCPs is the worst in industry, it is now ccp being nice to us it, is ccp needing us.
 
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        |  Illyria Ambri
 RennTech
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 04:47:00 -
          [15] 
 
  Originally by: Gungankllr 
 
 You know, where they try to find bugs before they go live
 
 
 
 Epic failure on this one....
 Even if it was the test server.. if someone from CCP came and popped me w/o warning with an exploit then told me to petition it so it would be added to the list.. I'd tell him where to stick it.
 Unless CCP staff is too incompetent to actually be able to add their own bug reports and must instead rely on players to find the bugs for them and report them before anything gets done..
 
 No wonder this patch was so 8 the F up.
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 This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
 
 Here come the Drums!! - The Master
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        |  Techn0Viking
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 04:50:00 -
          [16] 
 Could it be a little payback for you and your 'm8' agreeing to 1v1 people, then the other guy comes in and ganks the unsuspecting victim? I know if I was a 'bughunter', I'd give you and a few other choice monkey-faced individuals reasons to 'file a bug report' for the l0lz.
 
 Cry more for having to refit a ship for nearly nothing on the test server.
 Your emo tears only make Techn0Viking stronger.
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        |  Liamar
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 06:32:00 -
          [17] 
 
  Originally by: Techn0Viking Could it be a little payback for you and your 'm8' agreeing to 1v1 people, then the other guy comes in and ganks the unsuspecting victim? I know if I was a 'bughunter', I'd give you and a few other choice monkey-faced individuals reasons to 'file a bug report' for the l0lz.
 
 Cry more for having to refit a ship for nearly nothing on the test server.
 Your emo tears only make Techn0Viking stronger.
 
 
 Get your facts straight before you start rambling. I, nor anyone I've flown with, have never done that on the test server.
 
 Testing bugs is fine, but a little warning would be nice. The 'bughunter' or whoever never said anything in local or to me directly till my "wtf is that s**t" reaction in local. Then, all the sudden, oh I should be filling a bug report. Lame eithe way you look at it IMHO.
 
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        |  Sin mez
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 06:42:00 -
          [18] 
 
  Originally by: Liamar 
 Testing bugs is fine, but a little warning would be nice. The 'bughunter' or whoever never said anything in local or to me directly till my "wtf is that s**t" reaction in local. Then, all the sudden, oh I should be filling a bug report. Lame eithe way you look at it IMHO.
 
 
 Then don't go on the test server, it's that simple, jeez. The only lame thing here is your OP.
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        |  Liamar
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 06:44:00 -
          [19] 
 
  Originally by: Sin mez 
  Originally by: Liamar 
 Testing bugs is fine, but a little warning would be nice. The 'bughunter' or whoever never said anything in local or to me directly till my "wtf is that s**t" reaction in local. Then, all the sudden, oh I should be filling a bug report. Lame eithe way you look at it IMHO.
 
 
 Then don't go on the test server, it's that simple, jeez. The only lame thing here is your OP.
 
 
 Psst, you got a lil brown on yer nose there.
  
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        |  Karlemgne
 Infinitus Odium
 The Church.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 06:51:00 -
          [20] 
 Ummm... GMs don't do testing. It was a QA guy who popped you most likely (although the request for a bug report is quite strange.) If this is the case (that a QA guy popped you) who cares? He's there to test the game, and when you log on you tacitly agree to help him.
 
 -Karl
 
 
 
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        |  Eternal Hatred
 Amarr
 Viziam
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 06:53:00 -
          [21] 
 OMG OMG OMG BOOHOO!!! EBIL GM KILLED ME AND MADE ME LOSE DIGITAL 1010101's!!! SUE SUE SUE!!!
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 I'm a well known whorum warriors alt and my lucky number is 232003.
 
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        |  Verx Interis
 Amarr
 Aurora Security
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 07:13:00 -
          [22] 
 Wait.. Doesn't everything on the test server cost 100 ISK?
 
 Why is it such a big deal you lost about 2k when the insurance you got losing that ship gave you about 50m...?
 -----sig-starts-here------
 Ok I need a new sig so...
 
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 07:18:00 -
          [23] 
 
  Originally by: Verx Interis Wait.. Doesn't everything on the test server cost 100 ISK?
 
 Why is it such a big deal you lost about 2k when the insurance you got losing that ship gave you about 50m...?
 
 To me the big deal is the "bug tester" employed by ccp, and paid by ccp. Is telling the customer to file a bug report, about a bug the PAID employee obviously knew about before it happened. So i must ask you, are you not a little bit curious why a bug hunter cant post his own bug reports? Do you see why this patch is the buggiest of all time in the history of games?
 
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        |  Admiral Pelleon
 Caldari
 White Shadow Imperium
 Burning Horizons
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 07:26:00 -
          [24] 
 
  Originally by: SnakeByte86 
  Originally by: Verx Interis Wait.. Doesn't everything on the test server cost 100 ISK?
 
 Why is it such a big deal you lost about 2k when the insurance you got losing that ship gave you about 50m...?
 
 To me the big deal is the "bug tester" employed by ccp, and paid by ccp. Is telling the customer to file a bug report, about a bug the PAID employee obviously knew about before it happened. So i must ask you, are you not a little bit curious why a bug hunter cant post his own bug reports? Do you see why this patch is the buggiest of all time in the history of games?
 
 
 Bug Testers are paid?
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 "It's a good day to die!"
 
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        |  Verx Interis
 Amarr
 Aurora Security
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 07:41:00 -
          [25] 
 
  Originally by: SnakeByte86 
  Originally by: Verx Interis Wait.. Doesn't everything on the test server cost 100 ISK?
 
 Why is it such a big deal you lost about 2k when the insurance you got losing that ship gave you about 50m...?
 
 To me the big deal is the "bug tester" employed by ccp, and paid by ccp. Is telling the customer to file a bug report, about a bug the PAID employee obviously knew about before it happened. So i must ask you, are you not a little bit curious why a bug hunter cant post his own bug reports? Do you see why this patch is the buggiest of all time in the history of games?
 
 
 Maybe he heard about the bug but needed to test it and needs to get data as to how it appeared on different ends.
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 07:43:00 -
          [26] 
 
  Originally by: Admiral Pelleon 
  Originally by: SnakeByte86 
  Originally by: Verx Interis Wait.. Doesn't everything on the test server cost 100 ISK?
 
 Why is it such a big deal you lost about 2k when the insurance you got losing that ship gave you about 50m...?
 
 To me the big deal is the "bug tester" employed by ccp, and paid by ccp. Is telling the customer to file a bug report, about a bug the PAID employee obviously knew about before it happened. So i must ask you, are you not a little bit curious why a bug hunter cant post his own bug reports? Do you see why this patch is the buggiest of all time in the history of games?
 
 
 Bug Testers are paid?
 
 
 
 They're not? Then this would be the only gaming company in the history of the world, not to have Bug testers / Q&A on staff.
 
 But then again, look at our patch. Maybe they dont, might explain alot.
 
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        |  CCP Whisper
 
 
  
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 07:56:00 -
          [27] 
 The Bug Hunters are part of ISD and are volunteers who help our (paid) QA department test issues on Serenity. Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry. Even our largest competitor asks its players to file bug reports when they encounter issues.
 
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        |  Crumplecorn
 Gallente
 Eve Cluster Explorations
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:03:00 -
          [28] 
 
 This is now a meme. Originally by: CCP Whisper our largest competitor
 
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 DesuSigs
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        |  Illyria Ambri
 RennTech
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:12:00 -
          [29] 
 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry.
 
 
 How about killing them without any warning whatsoever then telling them to file a bug report.
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        |  Verx Interis
 Amarr
 Aurora Security
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:22:00 -
          [30] 
 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper our (paid) QA department
 
 
 They obviously aren't paid enough.
 
 -----sig-starts-here------
 Ok I need a new sig so...
 
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        |  Crumplecorn
 Gallente
 Eve Cluster Explorations
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:23:00 -
          [31] 
 
 They were in a Free For All area on the Test Server. Originally by: Illyria Ambri 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry.
 
 
 How about killing them without any warning whatsoever then telling them to file a bug report.
 
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 DesuSigs
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        |  Galack Fyar
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:23:00 -
          [32] 
 Edited by: Galack Fyar on 10/12/2007 08:24:23
 
  Originally by: Illyria Ambri 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry.
 
 
 How about killing them without any warning whatsoever then telling them to file a bug report.
 
 
 They were in the FFA area, warping there on test server means it's time to fight, with or without warning.
 
 Edit: Damn you Crumplecorn
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        |  Ares Splinter
 Dark Centuri Inc.
 Firmus Ixion
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:28:00 -
          [33] 
 Edited by: Ares Splinter on 10/12/2007 08:28:26
 lol is this nitpick at the stupidest stuff day? Whats the big deal? Its a TEST server... not a Blow **** up server. Plus stuff is free, its not like its a big deal to get another one. The FFA is FREE FOR ALL, you warp there and its free game.
 
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        |  FireFoxx80
 Caldari
 E X O D U S
 Imperial Republic Of the North
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:45:00 -
          [34] 
 File a bug report already...
 
 
 What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
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        |  ElCoCo
 KIA Corp
 KIA Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:48:00 -
          [35] 
 
 Erm, no arguments there. Originally by: CCP Whisper Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry.
 
 But when the bughunter himself "recreated" the bug, asking from a player to sumbit it is kinda... counter productive.
   Cause... you know, when he files it, you'll probably tell him that his submitted info is inadequate to... recreate it
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        |  Mr Friendly
 That it Should Come to This
 Derek Knows Us
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 08:57:00 -
          [36] 
 ohnoes!!!
 
 my 1500 isk dreadnought got blowed up!!!
 
 ohnoes!!!
 
 that's a helluva lot of damage from a cruise missile, though :)
 
 Save EveTV, please.
 Sign to ask CCP to fund EveTV!
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 09:08:00 -
          [37] 
 
  Originally by: Verx Interis 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper our (paid) QA department
 
 
 They obviously aren't paid enough.
 
 
 
 
 Boom! Headshot!
 
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 09:11:00 -
          [38] 
 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper The Bug Hunters are part of ISD and are volunteers who help our (paid) QA department test issues on Serenity. Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry. Even our largest competitor asks its players to file bug reports when they encounter issues.
 
 
 What a shock, the guy doesnt even read our posts.
 
 If this guy is a "bug hunteR" and is part of ISD, why is he purposely shooting other people, with a bug he knows about, and then instead of him taking the time to file the bug report, he asks the guy he just blew up with no warning, to file it.
 
 Correct me if im wrong, but shouldn't he the "volunteer" actually do a bug report? instead of ordering a non "volunteer"
 
 Thanks for actualy reading, really, thanks.
 
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        |  Avon
 Caldari
 Black Nova Corp
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 09:22:00 -
          [39] 
 I'd put money on this not being a bug being tested, but the use of one of the weapon systems not available to players.
 
 Unfortunately Bug Hunters and GMs find it amusing to shoot people with these stupidly overpowered weapons to score a cheap kill ... and then moan when no-one can be bothered to continue testing stuff on the test server.
 
 If you see anyone with funny coloured text on Sisi, unfortunately it is best just to avoid them.
 
 Hell, I had one blow me up with a "test" weapon system once, for no reason (and I was actually trying to recreate a but to report .. one that ended up in game too).
 When I protested he claimed I had attacked first (I didn't have him locked, and was only using drones) - and when I denied this he accused me, a paying customer testing stuff on the test server for THEIR benefit, of lying.
 
 That was a GM.
 Not only did he possibly contribute to a bug getting in to the game, he showed his total lack of understanding of the game mechanics.
 Cool huh?
 
 So, whatever.
 
 
 Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
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        |  SnakeByte86
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 09:24:00 -
          [40] 
 
  Originally by: Avon I'd put money on this not being a bug being tested, but the use of one of the weapon systems not available to players.
 
 Unfortunately Bug Hunters and GMs find it amusing to shoot people with these stupidly overpowered weapons to score a cheap kill ... and then moan when no-one can be bothered to continue testing stuff on the test server.
 
 If you see anyone with funny coloured text on Sisi, unfortunately it is best just to avoid them.
 
 Hell, I had one blow me up with a "test" weapon system once, for no reason (and I was actually trying to recreate a but to report .. one that ended up in game too).
 When I protested he claimed I had attacked first (I didn't have him locked, and was only using drones) - and when I denied this he accused me, a paying customer testing stuff on the test server for THEIR benefit, of lying.
 
 That was a GM.
 Not only did he possibly contribute to a bug getting in to the game, he showed his total lack of understanding of the game mechanics.
 Cool huh?
 
 So, whatever.
 
 
 Yet people defend CCP for all the bugs in this patch.
 
 Sigh.
 
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        |  Capt Morgun
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 09:35:00 -
          [41] 
 bugs or not you're all still here moaning as usual. U should put some midol in your mountain dew, then post.
 
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        |  Karanth
 Gallente
 Eve's Brothers of Destiny
 Free Trade Zone.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 10:14:00 -
          [42] 
 You know, players and Bug Hunters can BOTH file a bug report, about the same bug, at the same time, due to the magic of forms.
 
 Or, you know, the Bug Hunter can, and the OP can be a whiner about dying in FFA on Sisi.
 
 Whatever.
 
 
 All that's left...
 
 There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer.
 Well, there's not many of *us* left! -Rauth
 
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        |  Barbaro55a
 Caldari
 Amesha Spentaz
 Terra Incognita.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 10:21:00 -
          [43] 
 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper Even our largest competitor asks its players to file bug reports when they encounter issues.
 
 
 Hello Kitty right?
 
  Originally by: ISD Valorem If someone has hurt you out of game then please talk to family, friends or Police (if necessary)
 
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        |  Admiral Nova
 Strike Team Nova
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 11:42:00 -
          [44] 
 WTS: Definition of FFA
 
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        |  Tamia Clant
 New Dawn Corp
 New Eden Research
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 11:44:00 -
          [45] 
 
  Originally by: Barbaro55a 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper Even our largest competitor asks its players to file bug reports when they encounter issues.
 
 
 Hello Kitty right?
 
 
 Of course, what else?
 
 Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
 
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        |  Liamar
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 13:13:00 -
          [46] 
 *sigh*
 
 I'm wasn't angry that I got instapopped by a BH, nor that I had to spend 5 min rebuilding my 1500isk ship on Sisi. I was angry because of WHY. Helping BHs find bugs is fine and something I'd be more than happy to do... but getting instapopped just to get someones virtual rocks off is lame. As I said, NOTHING about filing bug reports was said until I posted the combat log with the 27k dmg cruise. When he popped us, he knew he had reproduced a bug. If he had convo'd/said something in local immediately about it, then this post would of never been created.
 
 Anyways, I've learned more about the... people... CCP has running around on the test server and moved on. So should you.
 
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        |  Blane Xero
 Amarr
 The Firestorm Elite
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 13:47:00 -
          [47] 
 New to the test server, huh?
 
 Bughunters, and actual players BOTH submit bug reports, he probably reported what happened on his end, you have to submit a report on how the bug affected YOU.
 
 One report = not enough, as many reports as ccp can get all help in eliminating every which way the said bug can happen, you complain about live bugs, all fair if you reported them on sisi aswell, but CCP's paid QA, needs help to stop the bugs getting through.
 
 As i said, the bug hunter cant report thigns on your end as well as his.
 
 my 2 isk.
 
 Welcome to EvE
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        |  DrAtomic
 Atomic Heroes
 Phalanx Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 13:52:00 -
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  Originally by: Liamar [b]Liamar > <br>[ 2007.12.10 02:05:27 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile belonging to Virrago hits you, doing 27674.6 damage.
 
 
 Nerf Caldari!
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        |  ISD BH Virrago
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       | Posted - 2007.12.10 13:53:00 -
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 The amount of damage was due to a bug i was trying to reproduce and while it was unfortunate you lost your ship i do apologize that it happened to be you
  
 
 
 
 
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        |  DrAtomic
 Atomic Heroes
 Phalanx Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 14:23:00 -
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  Originally by: ISD BH Virrago The amount of damage was due to a bug i was trying to reproduce and while it was unfortunate you lost your ship i do apologize that it happened to be you
  
 
 
 
 Bah camp him in imho... :P
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  Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
 
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        |  Anaalys Fluuterby
 Caldari
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 14:33:00 -
          [51] 
 
  Originally by: Crumplecorn 
 They were in a Free For All area on the Test Server. Originally by: Illyria Ambri 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry.
 
 
 How about killing them without any warning whatsoever then telling them to file a bug report.
 
 
 And on top of that there have been reports filed about Citadel torps BBQ'ing ships with more than 15k damage a hit on Tranquility, so this is obviously a bug (which obviously they are trying to reproduce).
 
 Pfffft, whining about being killed on SISI while bug hunting. What will they think of next?
 
  Originally by: CCP Chronotis 
 Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
 
 
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        |  lordferatu
 Genos Occidere
 The Gurlstas Associates
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 14:38:00 -
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 Ok so the guy asked you to file a bug report. At what point did you manage to work out that he wouldnt be filing one himself AS WELL. You can not possible have any idea whether he did or not. So.......
 
 OP and his defendants need to seriously rethink their lives.
 
  Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Errm.. This is Eve.. Not Bondage Freaks Online..
  
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        |  DeadRow
 Naqam
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 16:12:00 -
          [53] 
 Does it really matter that much? I mean if it was on TQ for sure complain but its on SiSi and is in the FFA.
 
 
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        |  Natalia Survenka
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 16:19:00 -
          [54] 
 Its a test server. They test bugs. LOL?
  
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        |  Karlemgne
 Infinitus Odium
 The Church.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 19:38:00 -
          [55] 
 
  Originally by: CCP Whisper The Bug Hunters are part of ISD and are volunteers who help our (paid) QA department test issues on Serenity. Asking players to file bug reports about problems encountered on the live (as well as test) servers is standard practice in the MMORPG industry. Even our largest competitor asks its players to file bug reports when they encounter issues.
 
 
 
 Hehe... yes but working for one of your competitors in QA I can promise you that we do not isolate issues/bugs, then suggest that the customers enter said bug into our database.
 
 I other words we as community members to file reports on issues they find themselves.
 
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        |  Alrione
 Amarr
 Black Lagoon Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 19:45:00 -
          [56] 
 
  Originally by: ISD BH Virrago The amount of damage was due to a bug i was trying to reproduce and while it was unfortunate you lost your ship i do apologize that it happened to be you
  
 
 
 I like how everyone totally ignores his reply and apology. Everyone happy now?
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        |  Noblesse oblige
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 19:49:00 -
          [57] 
 I wonder if this is the same Virrago that was a GM at SOE for Star Wars Galaxies during the CU and NGE ?? heh. If you know what I'm talking about, you know why I laugh.
 
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        |  Empyre
 Domestic Reform
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 19:49:00 -
          [58] 
 Edited by: Empyre on 10/12/2007 19:50:41
 i swear.. some people just refuse to think before speaking. this thread has all sorts of 'shameful head in hands' emotes.
 
 ps. hope that 100 isk ship didn't set you back too far on a server that is regularly rolled.
 
 The official goon buzz-kill.
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        |  Luigi Thirty
 Caldari
 19th Star Logistics
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 20:25:00 -
          [59] 
 Edited by: Luigi Thirty on 10/12/2007 20:25:26
 You should be honored that a BH chose to blow you up
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        |  Fanjita
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 20:40:00 -
          [60] 
 
  Originally by: Illyria Ambri 
  Originally by: Gungankllr 
 
 You know, where they try to find bugs before they go live
 
 
 
 Epic failure on this one....
 Even if it was the test server.. if someone from CCP came and popped me w/o warning with an exploit then told me to petition it so it would be added to the list.. I'd tell him where to stick it.
 Unless CCP staff is too incompetent to actually be able to add their own bug reports and must instead rely on players to find the bugs for them and report them before anything gets done..
 
 No wonder this patch was so 8 the F up.
 
 
 Maybe if people used the test server to look for bugs, it's actual purpose, instead of wanting to play eve on easy or just **** about with there corp mates the patch releases would go a lot better.
 
 How any one can moan about what a DEV, BUGHUNTER OR GM does on the TEST SERVER is beyond me.
 
 grow up you whinging crybaby eve ruining child.
 
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        |  OOOSOOO
 Gallente
 Federal Navy Academy
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.12.10 20:52:00 -
          [61] 
 
  Originally by: Liamar [b]Liamar > <br>[ 2007.12.10 02:05:27 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile belonging to Virrago hits you, doing 27674.6 damage.
 Liamar > ???
 
 
 
 Not to worry. This is just the Cruise missile "nerf" for next patch. (aka balance from torp "nerf")
  
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