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Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:27:00 - [1] WTF? It's barely playable with the jitter on! Can't select anything, gotta click it 100 times before i get a menu on an item in space. Anyone else having this issue?
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:27:00 - [2] WTF? It's barely playable with the jitter on! Can't select anything, gotta click it 100 times before i get a menu on an item in space. Anyone else having this issue?
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:28:00 - [3] Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really.
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:28:00 - [4] Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really.
Gary Payne	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:29:00 - [5] yeap i get it after a while.. usually gets triggered off when im looking at something else and im zooming in an out of the object before it explodes :D. its damn annoying
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:29:00 - [6] I went back to classic just to help more with running multiple accounts plus I could not stand the look of new hyperion. Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Gary Payne	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:29:00 - [7] yeap i get it after a while.. usually gets triggered off when im looking at something else and im zooming in an out of the object before it explodes :D. its damn annoying
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:29:00 - [8] I went back to classic just to help more with running multiple accounts plus I could not stand the look of new hyperion. Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Possessed Clown Amarr Spiced Wine Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:32:00 - [9] Yeah it sucks hopefully it will be fixed soon Sig Removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ^^^I got pwnt :(
Possessed Clown Amarr Spiced Wine Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:32:00 - [10] Yeah it sucks hopefully it will be fixed soon Sig Removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ^^^I got pwnt :(
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:33:00 - [11] no problems for me, its running nice and smooth. ___________________________________________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:33:00 - [12] no problems for me, its running nice and smooth. ___________________________________________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:42:00 - [13] Originally by: sableye I went back to classic just to help more with running multiple accounts plus I could not stand the look of new hyperion. Honestly while I love the new graphics and think EVE looks great most times I am playing in classic as well. Weird graphical hiccups, flat out wrestling with my driver to get it to do AA appropriately not to mention Windowed mode and multiple accounts I am going classical 90% of the time at least.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:48:00 - [14] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. This. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Mizdemeanor Destructive Influence	Posted - 2007.12.10 03:54:00 - [15] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. what he said
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:01:00 - [16] ive had the jitter twice, switching grids has fixed it both times Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:07:00 - [17] Quote: switching grids Elaborate please? I've had the jitter too, and fixed it by clicking on a large collidable structure in space.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:07:00 - [18] I get jitter in classic, always have with the zoom. this is not new. this is old. has nothing to do with the new graphics. the new graphics are great and I don't think CCP are going to listen to any of you, it's there game Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
WhiteSavage Gallente Dark Force Recon	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:16:00 - [19] Well thats why they have the classic version still available :P As if any expansion didnt have major hikups. Tis what patches r for :P ___________________________________________ Facta Non Verba
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:22:00 - [20] well by jitter i mean the name of whatever ive click on strobes, and anything that didnt get an updated model/texture flashes big and small lol Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Kyra Felann Gallente Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:39:00 - [21] No problems here. Are your drivers up to date?
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Tortun Nahme well by jitter i mean the name of whatever ive click on strobes, and anything that didnt get an updated model/texture flashes big and small lol Exactly what he said. Thing like asteroid belts and planet and moons get big and small very fast and you can't select them. That never happend before Trinity.
Draekas Darkwater Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:45:00 - [23] Happened to me as well. I switched back to classic, then back to premium and it was gone. However, now something else rather strange is happening. Target boxes on the hud and vertically shifted from the actual graphic of the ship/asteroid/ect. So if I fire a missile at a rat, it'll shoot at something an inch (on the screen) above where the ship actually appears on the screen. Also, the billboard screens (the pictures that change), are also shifted above the actual billboard graphic, so they're like, projected into space. =P Its rather annoying, and yes I'm mostly back to playing in classic again, its at least more consistant.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:47:00 - [24] actually it did, just not very often, cant say i get it very often now either Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:57:00 - [25] If you dock the strobe/jitter dissapears, but doing a "look at" sometimes brings it back. Jumping through stargates does not fix it.
Draekas Darkwater Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.12.10 05:08:00 - [26] Here is some screens of what I was refering too, of the billboard. =D Billboard 1 Billboard 2 Billboard 3 New projection TV technology? =D
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.12.10 07:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Kyra Felann No problems here. Are your drivers up to date? No problem here either. I run Premium under Fine Standards (not Extreme). Little laggy in Window mode, very good in full screen, and Processor CPU usage reduced by 50%. Originally by: Abrazzar OP needs to delete his boot.ini.
Bo Bojangles Minmatar High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.10 08:17:00 - [28] Edited by: Bo Bojangles on 10/12/2007 08:17:59 I'd like to run the new client, and really thought I could. But my LCD likes to stay at it's native 1600x1200, and it seems that's just too much to ask for out of my 2x 7800GT SLI setup. Messed around a bit with the driver, backed this and that off, but it still feels like it's chuggin' a bit. When near one of our POS's with a bunch of ships floating around, I have serious problems with FPS. So I'm back to Classic until I can find a good tweak guide. And yeah I do get a bit of jitter in belts from time to time in Premium only though. My Fleet Issue Stabber looks a heckuva lot better in Classic anyway.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.12.10 08:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Bo Bojangles Edited by: Bo Bojangles on 10/12/2007 08:17:59 I'd like to run the new client, and really thought I could. But my LCD likes to stay at it's native 1600x1200, and it seems that's just too much to ask for out of my 2x 7800GT SLI setup. Messed around a bit with the driver, backed this and that off, but it still feels like it's chuggin' a bit. When near one of our POS's with a bunch of ships floating around, I have serious problems with FPS. So I'm back to Classic until I can find a good tweak guide. And yeah I do get a bit of jitter in belts from time to time in Premium only though. My Fleet Issue Stabber looks a heckuva lot better in Classic anyway. My settings too where messed up straight after the install, but when i got into the game, and changed the settings to my preferences, everything turned out OK. The first time I started the game it was all messed up. I changed my setting and voila! All perfect! Originally by: Abrazzar OP needs to delete his boot.ini.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.10 08:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Bo Bojangles Edited by: Bo Bojangles on 10/12/2007 08:17:59 I'd like to run the new client, and really thought I could. But my LCD likes to stay at it's native 1600x1200, and it seems that's just too much to ask for out of my 2x 7800GT SLI setup. Messed around a bit with the driver, backed this and that off, but it still feels like it's chuggin' a bit. When near one of our POS's with a bunch of ships floating around, I have serious problems with FPS. So I'm back to Classic until I can find a good tweak guide. And yeah I do get a bit of jitter in belts from time to time in Premium only though. My Fleet Issue Stabber looks a heckuva lot better in Classic anyway. deactivated shadows or smth? --- planetary interaction idea!
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition	Posted - 2007.12.10 08:45:00 - [31] Man, I hate the jitter. It's the only problem I'm consistently getting in Premium. Goes away when I dock and selecting via overview still works fine, though, so it isn't exactly crippling when it happens in the middle of combat (though it's really irritating to watch).
Bo Bojangles Minmatar High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.10 09:07:00 - [32] deactivated shadows or smth? Yeah turned off the shadows and HDR,.. what's smth? I guess I'm running offa 2yr. old stuff. though. Just seems like it should still run it fine. Opteron 170 DFI Lanparty SLI-DR Expert (NForce4) 2x1 Gig OCZ pc3200 Platinum EB 2x 7800GT SLI

CCP Redundancy	Posted - 2007.12.10 09:36:00 - [33] I never liked Jita either. There were some changes related to playing in widescreen mode, is this related to playing with that switched on?

Steini OFSI Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 09:44:00 - [34] Originally by: CCP Redundancy I never liked Jita either. There were some changes related to playing in widescreen mode, is this related to playing with that switched on? Nope, gotten the jitter does occur in normal window (maybe widescreen but I don't play widescreen). ------- I usually spend some minutes writing a post, usually read it over, decide it doesn't really add anything useful to a conversation and I hit the cancel button. .....This time I didn't hit c

CCP Redundancy	Posted - 2007.12.10 09:54:00 - [35] Originally by: Draekas Darkwater Here is some screens of what I was refering too, of the billboard. =D Billboard 1 Billboard 2 Billboard 3 New projection TV technology? =D These screenshots look like issues with the widescreen mode. Any better description of what happens and when it might happen around the "jitter" issue might help us track it back to the cause.

Angelus Custos Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:14:00 - [36] The jitter I have, and I think some others talk about, is that mostly missions structures, icons and the text labeling the selected item blinks in and out of existance at stroboscope speeds. Often with a small relocation effect, ie every other blink is one or two pixels up, then back to original, then up... Some even have their entire screen flicker like this. I was trying to get it on logserver but I experience it rather rarely.
Liza Catapolus	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:20:00 - [37] Edited by: Liza Catapolus on 10/12/2007 10:21:17 Originally by: CCP Redundancy I never liked Jita either. There were some changes related to playing in widescreen mode, is this related to playing with that switched on? widescreen mode does something? i've togled it on and off, but couldn't see anything changing. I usually go windowed instead of fullscreen(multiple clients, web browser, and excel work better when windowed) but still at a "widescreen" resolution(1440x900). Would turning widescreen on do anything beneficial? Liza
Bellator Militaris	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:35:00 - [38] Played this game for a year. Almost everyday. Never had a jitter, jiggle, pulse, vibrate, nothing. And then came the most wonderful the best the most of the most TRINITY and now I sit and jitter, jiggle and vibrate. Congrats the Employees in Iceland! Can you do anything else to wreck out game?

CCP Redundancy	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:36:00 - [39] Someone has sent us an extremely useful fraps video of the jittering bug, and I'll be looking for probable culprits today. As for widescreen mode - no, there's no real benefit, but it can make it easier to read the UI states for modules etc.

Angelus Custos Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:52:00 - [40] \o/ All hail Someone!
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:04:00 - [41] Thanks on trying to fix this. Hopefully we'll see the results soon.
Nicholas Barker MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:12:00 - [42] i bug reported this a few days ago, have to relog to fix it. they asked for a screenshot but can't really screenshot something that moves. ---
Moni Toimikone	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:13:00 - [43] This is why I changed back to classic.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:18:00 - [44] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. This. Premium is pretty, classic is usable. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:25:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Someone has sent us an extremely useful fraps video of the jittering bug, and I'll be looking for probable culprits today. As for widescreen mode - no, there's no real benefit, but it can make it easier to read the UI states for modules etc. I've seen this, but didn't realize people were calling it "jitter". I would call it "icon strobing" as jitter is really freaking vague. Pointless complaining aside, I would like to add, that what seems to be occurring is that the icon for my ship is appearing on top of the target I'm looking at, then switching to the target's icon. Back and forth, very rapidly. Framerate drops to about half while this is going on too. It's pretty much unplayable between not being able to lock anything and getting 20FPS. I was not using widescreen mode. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:30:00 - [46] Running 2 clients also makes the colourful system backrounds on both ship icons and the actual splash backrounds dissapear leaving me with a pure white backround, other people with the same specs as me dont get it, so while this thread is on the go, as to not start ANOTHER one, i'll post the pic here hoping for help. Only the second booted client throws this error, the primary client remains 100% unnafected (no lag interferance), yet the affected client drops 10x in FPS (in station from 50 to 5) Using a nVidia Geforce 7600 GS, 1gig ram, Cache set as off on both clients, HDR off, bloom off, Here's an example : Whitescreen Of Dead-Eyes Welcome to EvE
RaidSoft Blackie	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:32:00 - [47] Not having any problems whatsoever with premium, no "jitter" bugs as you guys seem to have, only issue was overview and fleet interface going missing at times, did a setting reset and 100% working.. Performance is increased ALOT since the patch, much more stable fps, less CPU use, and the game looks WAAAAAAAAAAAY better. Staying away from AA and high shadow settings is a good way of getting a stable game, and it still looks good unless you zoom in like a maniac, do you really need to do that in the middle of a fight? Anyway, for all you whiners that keep saying this expansion is crap, remember what they have done here, have ANY other MMO basically remade their entire engine, remoddeled their entire game, and then NOT charge extra money for it? Think about that for a little while before you go shouting "THIS SUCKS!" Considering the HUGE change in the engine and just stuff in general it's to be expected to have bugs, they did have it bugtested etc etc but would you guys rather wait 6 months for it to be "flawless" (which tbh never will happen, there are things you just can't test without a few thousand people actually playing the game with it) STOP FLAMING FFS
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:33:00 - [48] Originally by: Blane Xero Running 2 clients also makes the colourful system backrounds on both ship icons and the actual splash backrounds dissapear leaving me with a pure white backround, other people with the same specs as me dont get it, so while this thread is on the go, as to not start ANOTHER one, i'll post the pic here hoping for help. Only the second booted client throws this error, the primary client remains 100% unnafected (no lag interferance), yet the affected client drops 10x in FPS (in station from 50 to 5) Using a nVidia Geforce 7600 GS, 1gig ram, Cache set as off on both clients, HDR off, bloom off, Here's an example : Whitescreen Of Dead-Eyes Someone in corp had this same thing and I've told him to get the newest nvidia drivers and that fixed it.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:42:00 - [49] Edited by: Blane Xero on 10/12/2007 15:42:56 Originally by: Kozak Originally by: Blane Xero Running 2 clients also makes the colourful system backrounds on both ship icons and the actual splash backrounds dissapear leaving me with a pure white backround, other people with the same specs as me dont get it, so while this thread is on the go, as to not start ANOTHER one, i'll post the pic here hoping for help. Only the second booted client throws this error, the primary client remains 100% unnafected (no lag interferance), yet the affected client drops 10x in FPS (in station from 50 to 5) Using a nVidia Geforce 7600 GS, 1gig ram, Cache set as off on both clients, HDR off, bloom off, Here's an example : Whitescreen Of Dead-Eyes Someone in corp had this same thing and I've told him to get the newest nvidia drivers and that fixed it. I'll try that when i get home, updated my drivers not long ago, thugh knowing my luck it will be whats happening, thanks. Gotta love typos... Welcome to EvE
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:47:00 - [50] Blane, Here is the info on Nvidias newest driver package, it was just released last month http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_163.75.html Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway????
Draekas Darkwater Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.12.10 19:09:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Originally by: Draekas Darkwater Here is some screens of what I was refering too, of the billboard. =D Billboard 1 Billboard 2 Billboard 3 New projection TV technology? =D These screenshots look like issues with the widescreen mode. Any better description of what happens and when it might happen around the "jitter" issue might help us track it back to the cause. I can't say that it is tied into the jitter issue. I did have the jitter problem in an ice field. I locked onto a roid, and the name started flashing over and over in rapid succession. When I moved the camera, the flashing name remained, even when the object wasn't the current selection. At one point, the entire screen started to rapidly jitter up and down like 2 pixels. It was at this point that I went back to classic. I later went to try the premium again, and the jittering had stoped but now I have that displacement bug in the screenshots. Zoning didn't fix it, nor did reloging, ect. As far as the displacement, it happens oddly all the time. When I lock an ice roid, the HUD target area is not the center of the roid like it should be, its below it (and I have to target that area with my mouse click to lock lasers onto it. The disconnection depends on the range and angle of the camera. I took a couple more screens today of it. There is a "point" where if I pan left slightly, the entire billboard including the screen jumps up and away from the HUD location.. whereas a slight pan to the right results in the billboard returning to the HUD location, but the screen remains above it. Here are those screens: Funky billboard Same billboard, slightly panned to the side Here are some other shots. The first is of me mining an ice roid. As you can see, my target is not on the roid. The roid I am mining is the large one in the picture nearest to the HUD location. Its a dark system unfortunatly, so a bit hard to tell if I'm BSing or not. Ice mining And here is another ship in the belt, same effect. I've "looked at" the ship and tried to manouver it so you can see the ship on the bright nebula background. That's the ship I've selected on my HUD, and yet the HUD is below it. Hulk in space As you may notice, I'm very zoomed out. It gets more pronounced the further I am zoomed from my ship/target. Here's the entire belt, zoomed out.. YOu can see the the zillion GSCs in space, ship HUD icons, ect. and then you see the roids well above them all. More ice roid fun Another angle Up close, the cans are all around (top, bottom, sides) of the roids all the way up the field, as they "should" be. Anyway, there you go. =D Hope it helps.
Imhothar Xarodit Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.10 19:32:00 - [52] Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 10/12/2007 19:32:15 I can also report "jitter" effects. It always starts after I scroll through a long list of iconized items and it doesn't stop until I close the container. Happens also sometimes after switching ships in space for a few seconds. I am not running in the "eidescren" mode of EVE, but my resolution is widescreen. It feels like if the camera was shaking around at an extremely high frequency and if it happens in asteroid fields, the rocks sometimes switch between 2 LOD levels.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.12.10 20:23:00 - [53] Anything that even sounds vaguely like Jitter is bound to cause a problem in Eve!
Gekkoh Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.12 11:49:00 - [54] I don't have jitter issues, but I do have the offset HUD issue in widescreen mode. I almost always play with widescreen on simply because it makes the targeting area and my module list much easier to read, with the main problem being that I have a hard time telling if a module is flashing green or red when there is something bright behind it. You know, you could give us a way to make just the background immediately behind these UI elements non-transparent so we wouldn't have to use widescreen mode. Eve looks much better using the full vertical resolution of the screen :-)
Ordo Lucius Gremlin Industries Edge Of Sanity	Posted - 2007.12.12 12:20:00 - [55] Aye, I get it too. I was on my way through the Forge and some gate camping suicide freak targeted my (empty) Bestower. From then on, everything i selected did the "jitter" thing, and worse of all, my FPS dropped to about 20. Logging out and in was the only way of sorting it. It also happens a lot in missions, could it be something to do with the target animation? Yikes! My sig is MELTING!!
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.12 12:29:00 - [56] I love how every thread about a trinity bug is all OMGOSH a bug. This is awful, ccps code monkeys suck, im gonna quit eve. Then if you look back you see the exact same thing after every major patch and it all gets fixed and everyone stays and we end up with lots of new shiny toys.
Pabs Sco Ecosse	Posted - 2007.12.12 12:54:00 - [57] I stopped using Premium version too. I didn;t suffer from jitter, but the whole interface seemed laggy. The gfx in missions (like acceleration gates) where awfull, the centerpoint of everything moved close to the object it was for the more you looked closely to it. My PC isn't spectacular, but I can play 99% of all DX9 games (some at lower resolutions) Classic is the best option for me right now No sacrifice....no victory!
Jolliejoe Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.12 12:56:00 - [58] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Originally by: Draekas Darkwater Here is some screens of what I was refering too, of the billboard. =D Billboard 1 Billboard 2 Billboard 3 New projection TV technology? =D These screenshots look like issues with the widescreen mode. Any better description of what happens and when it might happen around the "jitter" issue might help us track it back to the cause. That caused me a ship with a gatecamp, I couldn't select the warp out. BTW: anyone at ccp every uses an actual widescreen monitor??? Ever seen any other games using 16:10?? What's with the fricking big black bars on top and bottom?? Never seen any game with them... What?? It causes even more performance decrease?
Mantees Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.12.12 13:01:00 - [59] I am enjoying very much the new client so far. The only, very minor, issue that I have had until now is that, in 1024X760 fullscreen mode, the combat messages "You shot X for 300 damage" go over the range indicator below the target icons. I don't remember having this before the patch. BTW I will try to make a screenshot for clarity. -- OGRank.com - EVE Online - MMORPG News
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2007.12.12 13:09:00 - [60] Originally by: Moni Toimikone This is why I changed back to classic. Same. The flickering text was literally nauseating after awhile. I just couldn't look at it anymore
jam6549 eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.12 13:20:00 - [61] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. that ^^
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2007.12.15 10:21:00 - [62] Any news on this? Anyone figured out how to fix it if/when it occurs?
Neth'Rae Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.12.15 10:40:00 - [63] Originally by: Jolliejoe BTW: anyone at ccp every uses an actual widescreen monitor??? Ever seen any other games using 16:10?? What's with the fricking big black bars on top and bottom?? Never seen any game with them... What?? It causes even more performance decrease? lol, the widescreen option isn't for widescreens really, just select the right resolution and you're done. I agree that it shouldn't be named 'widescreen' since it's really confusing, name it letterbox instead.. Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Etsu	Posted - 2007.12.15 13:13:00 - [64] I have found a temp fix to the problem, if you hold ctrl and click to target(objects in space), do it very fast over n over and it will reset the jitter. I have not had any luck in being able to recreate the problem but I do think its related to targeting in some way based on this method I use to fix it.. I hope this will work for others, it really saved me from going insane
Growler667 Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.15 13:18:00 - [65] I'm not set on Premium vs. Classic yet. Classic: * FAR better FPS * Doesn't mysteriously lag out the whole of my PC with a single client. * Can happily run 2-3 clients :) Premium: * My Raven and Golem don't look identical (they do on Classic) * It is all very pretty
Callea Melin Amarr MevilD	Posted - 2007.12.15 14:27:00 - [66] Also got this "jitter" problem from time to time. Mostly in missions but when mining I once got it too. For me mostly this helps: - Click and hold a "big" entity in space. (preferably a big roid or in missions use structures for it or whatever) - Select "Target" in the radial menue that pops up - redo step 1, then click "Untarget" in the radial menu. This helps me almost every time. My corpmates also got this problem, we all got Geforce gfx-cards. (Maybe a reason?) ---------------------------------------------------- If you need GTCs, order 30 Days and 90 Days Evetimcodes ->here<-
Alex Terman Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.12.15 15:04:00 - [67] The only "jitter" I get with the Premium Graphics, is Asteroids sometimes flux between Big and Small, like the texture mesh can't decide if it's fat or lean (Much like Oprah Winfrey).
TheAdj Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.15 15:54:00 - [68] Was this fixed in the upcoming Tuesday patch? I can't quite tell from the changelog if this is fixed by anything mentioned. Care to enlighten us CCP? ----------------
Shar'Tuk TheHated	Posted - 2007.12.15 16:02:00 - [69] Ive had this happen to me a few times. It is rather annoying so hopefully it will get fixed soon. DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale! THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!
Apocryphai Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.15 16:06:00 - [70] Doesn't look like this is fixed according to the patch notes :/ Would be great if a dev or bughunter could let us know if you need more bugreports on this? ________________________________________________________________ Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
SirMoric	Posted - 2007.12.15 17:02:00 - [71] Only experienced a little jitter in stations on my laptop. A widescreen using Vista and a GeForce 9750 GTX card. Not much though. On my stationary, XP, normal screen with a GeForce 8800 GTX I haven't experienced any problems. Not with classic nor premium. Oh, and premium is fantastic looking, I really like the Gallente fleet. rgds
Zex Maxwell	Posted - 2007.12.15 17:26:00 - [72] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. Hearing this makes me want to close my accounts and find a new MMO that looks cool, but runs like a "normal"(has little to no problems during game play.) game. Hell I will even go back to playing World of Warcraft. I am waiting for 1 more month. If I still cant play on the new graphics, I am out of here.
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.12.15 17:31:00 - [73] EVE has premium graphics??? CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2007.12.15 17:33:00 - [74] Quote: Hearing this makes me want to close my accounts and find a new MMO that looks cool, but runs like a "normal"(has little to no problems during game play.) game. Hell I will even go back to playing World of Warcraft. I am waiting for 1 more month. If I still cant play on the new graphics, I am out of here. In b4 can I have your stuff.
Jomanda The Wild Hunt Pure.	Posted - 2007.12.16 23:30:00 - [75] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. /signed I dont care how it all looks, as long as the game mechanics work and the is no lag in huge fleetbattles, I would gladly settle for wireframes. (Played Elite like that for ages)
NightmareX Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.12.16 23:59:00 - [76] Well i get strange graphic errors sometimes, and it will NOT work to just reboot EVE, you actually have to reboot your computer. Because there is most likely an error with the graphic driver, and it can only be solved by rebooting your computer. Or in the worst case, you have to reinstall your graphic driver. And yeah i have an ATI graphic card. So i have to ask. For those who say you get those graphic errors and can't fix it, are you rebooting your computer at all? I can say for sure, 90% of all graphic errors is in the graphic driver, because in those 3 years and 10 months i have been playing EVE, it have ALWAYS been the graphic driver that have made those errors for me. Atm i'm running the Premium version of EVE.
Yohanes Flame Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.17 10:52:00 - [77] Edited by: Yohanes Flame on 17/12/2007 10:52:40 /signed me to now in Deadspaces 3 tonight jitter began. Had to restart client to alleviate bug report in. Geforce not ati ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
Rheinkraft D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.17 11:40:00 - [78] I have some raw fraps of this jitter bug in a pvp fight, il compress & upload but who should i send it to? Under The Black Flag Est 2004
Dinilysia Interregional Market Watch	Posted - 2007.12.17 11:56:00 - [79] Well, I prioritize eve on my machine but I ll recognize that alot of other poeple wont have it as their no.1 priority. I ll say this though: Whenever CCP churns out a new major upgrade like this, or a smaller one for that matter, I always reinstall my machine from an image of my system that I have created with Norton Ghost that has never had any drivers installed basically. I then download fresh drivers off the net for my stuff and then download and install the complete new client. I have never had any critical issues at all in principle and not close to what a lot of people are reporting here on the forums. It scares me thinking of all that old junk from years back that are festering on a lot of peoples machines and then they whine when they no longer can stack another heap of stuff on top of the old without it toppling over and crashing their machines or making them unreliable. So, help yourself, back up whatever you have that you want to keep on the harddrive, partition it and shuv it onto there and then do a fresh install from scratch of everything.
Mordrake Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:07:00 - [80] I finally expierienced the "Jitter" that everyone is talking agout in here. One client of the 2 I had open would start jittering periodicly, both clients were running premium graphics and I had them in window mode. Extreamely anoying ; [ "Arte et Marte"
Warp Knight The Serenity Society	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:28:00 - [81] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 10/12/2007 03:51:53 Originally by: sableye I went back to classic just to help more with running multiple accounts plus I could not stand the look of new hyperion. Honestly while I love the new graphics and think EVE looks great most times I am playing in classic as well. Weird graphical hiccups, flat out wrestling with my driver to get it to do AA appropriately not to mention Windowed mode and multiple accounts I am going classical 90% of the time at least. EDIT: I have a good system too. Core2Duo, fast RAM, 8800GTX. Exact same situation for me. I get a lot of weird effects, like half the graphics being on the bottom of the screen, and half the graphics being on top of the screen, and then merging in the center as they get closer. Also the mining laser effects are screwed, and some other random things. I like the new ship graphics but I switched back to classic due to all the probs I am having with premium. Same PC setup as yours. ============================== Work is for people that don't know how to plunder.
DeadRow Naqam	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:29:00 - [82] Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: Moni Toimikone This is why I changed back to classic. Same. The flickering text was literally nauseating after awhile. I just couldn't look at it anymore The flickering text is the only problems I'm having at the moment, though I must abit I havn't paid much attention to billboards in a while
MasterEnt	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:37:00 - [83] Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 10/12/2007 03:28:44 Alot of people like myself who can use the premium version of Eve have gone back to the Classic version... says it all really. What exactly does it say? Considering we know little about your computers. For all we know some of you are still running Pentium 1s with 512K RAM. Maybe it says "Unrealistic Expectations!"
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:38:00 - [84] Edited by: Janu Hull on 17/12/2007 14:39:44 Originally by: Alex Terman The only "jitter" I get with the Premium Graphics, is Asteroids sometimes flux between Big and Small, like the texture mesh can't decide if it's fat or lean (Much like Oprah Winfrey). This is the same for me. Combat seems to trigger it. Launching drones sometimes will too. Part of me wants to call it an LOD problem, since some LOD managers will cause wonkiness when objects are on the threshold of high to low detail. I don't know if there's an object count that the manager is trying to maintain, and launching drones or enemy NPCs alters the threshold level of detail and it makes the system epileptic.
Ishikari Gallente Ishikari Industries	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:49:00 - [85] Originally by: Bo Bojangles Edited by: Bo Bojangles on 10/12/2007 08:17:59 I'd like to run the new client, and really thought I could. But my LCD likes to stay at it's native 1600x1200, and it seems that's just too much to ask for out of my 2x 7800GT SLI setup. Messed around a bit with the driver, backed this and that off, but it still feels like it's chuggin' a bit. When near one of our POS's with a bunch of ships floating around, I have serious problems with FPS. So I'm back to Classic until I can find a good tweak guide. And yeah I do get a bit of jitter in belts from time to time in Premium only though. My Fleet Issue Stabber looks a heckuva lot better in Classic anyway. Odd that you have problems with your sli 7800 setup, although I know that SLI can be worse then single card at times, its some kind of either driver bug / bios bug / optimization in the nvidia sli profile for the game. There are some fixes I was just hearing about this morning for that ( bois update, remove drivers then put in one card, reinstall most recent drivers, then turn on sli and put in other card etc ).. Anyway, I run a 7950GT, 1 account runs premium and the other 2 run classic. I often run all 3 at once and it runs fine. I havent seen any jitter, the only bug I have seen is the icons on top of the overview will occasionally go from the small ones to the regular sized ones. -------------------------- Ishikari Industries Researchers of ship BPO's and BPC's
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:15:00 - [86] I gave up on premium graphics. Classic client doesn't screw up. I'm afraid that working > pretty. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
Yohanes Flame Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.17 19:12:00 - [87] I had a question. Has any had this start while not in combat. Assuming it has something to do with the vibration effect from receiving fire. What jitters. All text. All targeting boxes and there bisecting lines. The NPC ship icons flash in and out while the NPC ship stays constant. Large collidables do not flash but other space structures(Leaking Containers is one i noticed) flashed in and out, the entire structures. No jitter in the overview at all or any static windows. Only items in space. Also a player owned ship jitters when unpiloted. Just the box and the tag if on. not the ship itself. It is not the UI layer or the skinned object layer but only the Icon and huh targeting and selecting box layer that jitters. I guess that when you click something in game you are actually selecting the target box that creates the mouse over box not the ship itself. That is the layer that flashes in and out of existence. Making it difficult to click things as there clickable region is what flashes in and out. And yes this is all in a Bug Report. ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
BobbyCarter	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:32:00 - [88] Originally by: MasterEnt What exactly does it say? Considering we know little about your computers. For all we know some of you are still running Pentium 1s with 512K RAM. Maybe it says "Unrealistic Expectations!" QFMFT I'm seeing a lot of general cry here from people who obviously don't meet the minimum reqs. My machine is more then capable of playing EVE with everything cranked @ 1920x1200 (cept HDR, since I have a 7900GTX, gotta chose between that and AA) and I have to say that this expansion is gorgeous. The fact that it was free is amazing, compare it to EA, who release the same games year after year with minor feature/graphical updates and realize what you're complaining about. A lot of people, my corpmates included, thought that their 3 year old PCs that were entry level when they bought them would be able to run premium content. Sorry folks, this is pretty much a new game, and requires new hardware. If your PC is older then your xbox, you really shouldn't expect to be able to play premium. The jitter bug is something else, and I'm sure it will be addressed. The funny thing here is that I see people crying, complaining and moaning, even threatening to quit. Yet, I've not seen one dxdiag file, no detailed system specs, no fraps videos, absolutely nothing to help CCP track down a problem that they obviously are having trouble reproducing. Shame on you all for being crybabys. Fake Edit: Don't even start in on the 'we're paying monthly for this, we expect perfection' crap. People drop $300/mo on cars, and they still break down from time to time. You're paying $14.95 for something that, in ways, is much more complicated.
Alphrenel Caldari The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:01:00 - [89] /me skipped the last thread. I have this Jitter too, ive sent the BugHunter team a FRAPS Video that they can see what i mean... Bad is that i dont know what ive done that this Jitter started. But i read the Thread #82 and i apply to that. Everytime ive seen those Jitter i was in a mission, attacked something or warped through space, every of those things got an effect that EVE is vibrating. And, one thing... What Jitters?: The names of the things you clicked, objects like drone bunkers, asteroids... I dont know if the box jitters but could be - and you cant click a thing if the jitter starts. And my last thing... What the hell does QFMFT mean? (Dont try to search in Wikipedia, wont help :P)
Odewad Gallente Breadmen Make Better Luvers	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:06:00 - [90] Originally by: Alphrenel And my last thing... What the hell does QFMFT mean? (Dont try to search in Wikipedia, wont help :P) Quoted For Muther F'in Truth
Spec 593357629 Gallente Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:19:00 - [91] Edited by: Spec 593357629 on 18/12/2007 16:20:11
Spec 593357629 Gallente Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:21:00 - [92] Edited by: Spec 593357629 on 18/12/2007 16:22:55 p4 2.8ghz northwood, ATI x1650 pro agp 760 mb ram I run low shadows and bloom, I'm not sure if you've tried Oblivion? eve runs the same as it did before. if its killing your pc - reformat and get a DX 10 card, mine was 100$ it helped with all the games I'm looking at running now. At least you get the option of playing on the old client. as for wow they booted some of their best minds over the past years, Blizzard is a BS company like EA and the rest out to ---- you for a lil cash. Quote: Hearing this makes me want to close my accounts and find a new MMO that looks cool, but runs like a "normal"(has little to no problems during game play.) game. Hell I will even go back to playing World of Warcraft. I am waiting for 1 more month. If I still cant play on the new graphics, I am out of here. Thanks for keeping my Char all these years CCp never had a problem that wasn't fixed or explained to me.

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