Well I have taken your alliance members comments in local to be factual. If you are now telling me they were simply lying in local then so be it. But I imagine that means any future commetary from your alliance should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Again I simply reference the statement from your own leadership in response to a question I asked directly. I don't think anybody seriously questions the factual reality of the policy.

Where there is a question of sincerity here is that some members of one organization have accused members of another of "criminality and piracy" due to certain on the record activities. These accusations have led to one organization setting another red. Now it alleged that similar activities are simply ignored with a blind eye when it is politically convenient involving a third organization. Personally, I find the accusation "HYPOCRISY!" to be an overused one on these forums. But in this case I can see why people might find it appropriate.

Were I in your shoes and walking in the company of Core Impulse and Neo Spartan veterans I'd endeavour to grow a thicker skin Sofia.

Personally I take all local communications with anyone, especially war targets, with a fistful. Can't fault you for your naivety though.

I don't think we've ever denied being hypocrites, but then again we're not bound by such a strict set of morals. Nobody can really say that politic is a clean business though, there's always going to be someone on the receiving end. If Electus Matari want to associate themselves with the lesser of two evils though, then that's their prerogative.

Grow a thicker skin and become a crusty old fusspot? I don't think so. You're mistaking faux offense for something more. I'm aware that we both do what needs to be done to get the job finished.

Consider the source Pilot Roesburn and then studiously ignore it as I'll be doing from now on. Constantine's MO on the IGS has been the same for years; to employ tortured logic, ignoring of any facts not convenient to her arguments, dodging of questions and turning questions around onto the person who asked them in order to impugn their integrity. This is normally done in an overly verbose, pseudo-intellectual style designed to make herself look superior.

In other words Constantine is in love with the sound of her own voice and her ego is the size of a constellation. It's a true pity that such a noble cause is being led by one as arrogant as her. No wonder so many longtime SF pilots have chosen to flee in recent months. They had to leave before the sound of Constantine continually blowing her own horn drove them mad or made them deaf.

Constantine's MO on the IGS has been the same for years; to employ tortured logic, ignoring of any facts not convenient to her arguments, dodging of questions and turning questions around onto the person who asked them in order to impugn their integrity.

FEARLESS are a self declared NBSI entity who will shoot whoever they please.

Unprovoked Wars
An unprovoked war is a CONCORD war declaration on a target without a good reason. This includes wars for the purpose of extorting money and wars declared "just for fun." We consider such an abuse of the lenience of CONCORD to be a crime.

If that's the way you want to see it then so be it. You and I have both agreed in the past that disinformation is a rather valuable asset in one's repertoire. Can't see why you'd change your tune when it doesn't benefit you.Oh wait, yes I can.

Consider the source Pilot Roesburn and then studiously ignore it as I'll be doing from now on. Constantine's MO on the IGS has been the same for years; to employ tortured logic, ignoring of any facts not convenient to her arguments, dodging of questions and turning questions around onto the person who asked them in order to impugn their integrity. This is normally done in an overly verbose, pseudo-intellectual style designed to make herself look superior.

In other words Constantine is in love with the sound of her own voice and her ego is the size of a constellation. It's a true pity that such a noble cause is being led by one as arrogant as her. No wonder so many longtime SF pilots have chosen to flee in recent months. They had to leave before the sound of Constantine continually blowing her own horn drove them mad or made them deaf.

Nailed it. You sir are awesome. ((+1 Internets for you))

Another sock puppet supporting a sock puppet. Good heavens have we gotten to that part of the debate already. How about people stand up and announce themselves in their own name and we have an honest discussion of these matters without purile galnet strategies.

This is not a diplomacy board and I don't expect an answer or explanation for this on this board from EM.

[quote=Jade Constantine]
Sure. My name is Ivan 'Crazy Vania' Dvergar, and I think you are doing a terrible job at mediating this issue. Somehow this conversation has turned from an Obdisian Front standing order change announcement to a monologue about your pet peeve with EM.

Am I wrong, or is this one of the most common IGS thread template:
Party A says "We are cool"
Party B says "We don't like you"
Jade Constantine says "BLABLABLABLABLABLABLA"

In a related note - Mr. Ynot, smacktalking people in local while you try to negotiate peace with them is counterproductive.

If you wish to negotiate peace, do so in private.

Doing so by attacking EM's integrity and principles does not particularly make anyone sound very genuine about their intents of a "peaceful situation."

Came expecting poorly reasoned and irritating arguments by idiots.

Left with the knowledge that there actually is a limit to how much trash I can read, about half way through the first post.

You always were a pain to deal with, pray I don't see you again, I'm not bound by things like Rules of Engagement any more and no, that isn't an empty threat.

Keep trying Jade...

In the same sense that if you keep an infinite number of monkeys with datapads tapping away for an infinite amount of time one will produce the Pax Amarria if you keep writing your pages and pages of labourious prose and rhetoric you may have a valid point.

FEARLESS. has been contracted to wage war on FRONT and -SF- space assets in and around the Hek area (I see that you have managed to neatly dodge this by transferring your POCOs to a neutral corporation, something which will be dealt with in time). Hardly an unprovoked war. That makes all pilots flying under those banners (and those who provide them with aid) legitimate targets.

I won't bore you with our lengthy RoE but I have given my pilots free reign within the Aemen pocket so as to prevent infiltration by 'neutral' pilots who seek to learn our disposition and those who we suspect of using the remaining Customs Offices which belong to our targets. Note that Aemen is part of the Gallente Federation and not the Minmatar Republic.

On the Customs Office issue. We are not particularly concerned with taxes and income from them for now. Any that we have claimed and still hold at the end of our contract will be turned over to our client. He can then do with them what he pleases.

Our arrangement with Electus Matari is, quite frankly, none of your business. We have abided by and will continue to abide by the terms and conditions they presented to us.

Will deal with this in detail later on

I have to wonder EM, can you not spare a single one of your shady backroom diplomats to at least make some kind of effort to deal with public relations?

It's a pretty straight forward question, why; given your stated aims and aspirations, support and defend a NBSI Merc Corp?

I am genuinely confused.



.... Oh, and before anyone pipe's up with the old 'its none of your buisness, we don't have to justify, we dont care what the public thinks blah blah blah...' I'll just point out you fight for a Republic. A democratic, political republic, such entites rely on a public buy-in to function. If you refuse to nurture that your republic is already lost (Yay!).

If at all possible, could you deal with it in slightly less detail than usual?

I apparently am the "devil" of space.
So be it.
Sometimes even the devil makes a solid argument.

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Jade I don't know why you might find it surprising that some people don't like you.