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Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front 34	Posted - 2012.02.03 22:41:00 - [1] - Quote Obsidian Front Press Release Release GÇô General Rules of Engagement/Diplomacy Ladies and gentlemen of the Galactic Summit. My name is Ynot Eyob, CEO of Nisroc Angels and Executor of the alliance Obsidian Front. IGÇÖm not a practicedpublic speaker so my apology in advance if my manner is overly blunt and overlooks certain nice ties of diplomatic cunning. First a little history My own corporation Nisroc Angels was born of a dream of freedom birthed in molten fire on the refinery planets in the Caldari State. My ancestors were miners and pressed labour, they toiled in back breaking work for the profits ofthe mega corps and they worked till their deaths for the company profit margin. Low caste Caldari, immigrant Matari, mongrels and drifters of a hundred worlds,and all bent in service to the executives in their ivory towers on pleasureworlds a hundred AU distant. But it all changed with the capsuleer revolution. My comrades and I made plans to take our expertise to space and bring those of ourfamilies and kinsmen who would make the journey with us to freedom. Some of ushad the aptitude to command starships and HethGÇÖs hunger for fighters meant the provosts would test and condition even scum like we, and the Caldari aristocracy made the mistake of putting the means of liberation in ourforge-scarred hands. Ancient history though, the important thing is we left the State. We brought our ships and our families and our traditions to the Matarirepublic where we hoped to build a new life with hard work and honest courage. Today we establish industrial networks on mining planets and promote workers collectiveswith shared profits and mutual health. We train these workers as well as technology allows and we encourage those who can become capsuleers to take the next step and spread the wings of the Nisroc angel to guard the freedom of all. Electus Matari. A year ago I made a terrible mistake. A bond of loyaltystruck during our escape from the Caldari State was called in and I authorizedmy pilots to provide logistics assistance to a corporation named Apocalypse Legion who were at war with Electus Matari. I believed this a political disputeover territory but it was far more. Apocalypse Legion had demanded the right tore-establish the Slave Trade in the Matari Republic and made demands of Electus Matari to this effect. As it is, when we realized the full situation we were able to use diplomatic methods to talk to our allies into more peaceful resolutions, and change their hearts against the evils of slavery. Let me make it plain. The Obsidian Front is violently opposed to the practise of slavery having suffered enough the economic chainsof the Caldari State plutocrats. We condemn and deny any claim of the Amarrian Empire. We stand with the Matari people. We support the military endeavours of the Tribal Liberation Front. We have many blue allies in its number and we count UshraGÇÖkhan amongst our good friends. We are not slavers and never have been. NBSI, NRDS and piracy. Again I stand up and take responsibility for mistakes thathave been made. Obsidian Front have practised an engagement ideology which is neither NBSI or NRDS GÇô we have shot first against neutrals both for militarydefence and (it must be admitted) because some of our members have sought the freedom to kill without question. Originally I believed that to hold rules of conduct sternly over my membership was an unwelcome reminder of the ProvostGÇÖslash in State hell-mines. I believed a large degree of latitude was welcome. Ifelt individual choice was more important than rules of conduct in this regard. But now I see the mistake in this thinking. There is no goodreason for a free pilot to oppress the freedom of other neutrals. Only thedesire to bully the weak and steal the effort of others GÇô and truthfully the Nisroc Angel of Freedom pays no blessing to the braggart and the thief. We see ourselvesas freedom-fighters and independents, not cheap thugs and roadblockers. Only a tiny minority of our alliance have ever indulged inthese dark practises but from today even this will end. We see the idealisticsuperiority of NRDS as an engagement methodology and concentrating our energieson opposing those who genuinely mean to do us arm makes as much tactical senseas it does innate justice. Ongoing wars. These statements I make proudly and publicly, not as part ofany peace demand or concession forced upon us. I have reached these conclusionsthrough our experience in New Eden and the examples of our friends. Currentlywe are facing a wave of third-party aggression from accomplished Mercenarygroups hired (most likely) by the Pirates of Rancer and Crilere who have growntired of our patrols against their gate-camping. All our energies are directedat maintaining our low-tax Customs Offices and planetary colonies against thedeprivation of pirates and their hirelings and while I note a fresh wardec fromElectus Matari joining the conflict at this time I believe it is purelycoincidental and not part of any combined strategy by unlikely partners. Resolution. I do however hold out my hand to Electus Matari here and nowand request a ceasefire that both sides may assess the cost and benefits offuture conflict. Much blood has been spilled by entities that consider themselvesopposed to the murderous cartels that seek to dominate Matari lowsec. Pridealone has kept us fighting and hands around each otherGÇÖs throats. Pride andviolence and reprisal GÇô but these are not the attributes of leaders or thosethe Matari people should esteem. I take full responsibility for past mistakes and I pledgethey will be corrected. I will stand by the statements I have made here andwill be judged on their accuracy to come. And if the warriors of Electus Matari are not content toagree ceasefire on these words alone I make a further offer and proposal. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front 34	Posted - 2012.02.03 22:41:00 - [2] - Quote I Ynot Eyob will meet the collected fighting ships of Electus Matari alone from the bridge of my flagship in Hek System and standjudgement for those harms you still seek restitution for. I will fight certainly, but I will not make complaint if you need to bring many ships to beassured of the result you seek. And when the dust and wreckage is clear and myship is destroyed I ask you to think again on what I have proposed and urgeyour leaders to see past old feuds and see instead a future friendship thatwill harm no-one but the evil gatecampers of Matari space. I Ynot Eyob wish to pledge my life to the service of mycomrades, and the Matari people. And if I must die first to prove my faith then so be it. Here is my home. I give my blood and my oath. My comradesand I stand willing to defend and protect the freedoms of the Matari people inall things. We will fight and die and rise again to fight that the dark shadowsof Amarr and the corrupting evils of piracy are banished from the systems whereMatari make their homes. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Kalaratiri Teraa Matar 108	Posted - 2012.02.03 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote I assume EM are winning then? But I'm glad to see you acting a little more magnanimously than in your previous IGS appearances.
Dealing Devil Gravometric Invention Manufacturing Partnership The Obsidian Front 3	Posted - 2012.02.03 23:08:00 - [4] - Quote Obsidian is a stone, that most consider worthless, but given the right attention and crafting, obsidian can be one of the sharpest and deadliest of all the stones. Let us make good on the nature of obsidian. Obsidian, not just a stone.New Eden is truly vast, and with it comes the resources that drive the engines of growth. We as people of this place command the heavens and the planets that rest within its depths. Before the gate closed on the life before and the calendar was reset, there was and always has been a drive for precious metals and stones for trade, as currency within the economy and from which the value of ISK is derived. But abundance makes what is valuable common place like the abundance of titanium drives down the cost, and only through quantity comes profit. Some materials have no intrinsic value like dirt blowing around the corridors of a station.There is another side to what is of value, a side that is not always as clear to see but is far more dangerous as a driver for possession. This value is born out of the hearts and souls of individuals who are brought together and seek meaning, who value the worth of something, not for its intrinsic value as a product, but for what it represents and the sometimes mystical properties is possess.Corporations are established for many reasons, and buy the deeds they forge a presence in the galaxy. Alliances bring together corporations that have an affinity to work together and function as one when the need arises. These Alliances hold the standard, the rules and the essence of every individual, of every corporation and represents something greater than the sum of its parts.Obsidian, a stone chosen to represent an alliance, a body of like-minded people who have come together and form the Obsidian Front, a name chosen to represent a people, a way of life, and the essence of a belief, and for some even a religious conviction.This is a statement of fact, a federation, an Alliance for which, Obsidian, a stone born out of fire and brimstone, burns in the heart of the Alliance like the stars themselves and yet shows no indication of it power till it is struck and the shards cut to the very core of those who stand in its way. This stone represents who we are and what we are representing the very essence of our being. To own a true shard of obsidian is to represent power and once given stays deep inside, and no one can take it from you, the stone signifies this and all places were the birth of this stone occurs are considered sacred and those that seek it do so at their peril, those that covert it do so at the risk of their soul and those that respect its presence gains ours also.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1225	Posted - 2012.02.03 23:58:00 - [5] - Quote For any capsuleer organization to make pledge for freedom and swear to oppose regressive corruption of Amarrian Imperialism is a matter of celebration. To go further and embrace the enlightened ideology of NRDS rules of engagement to provide example and opportunity for neutral pilots is doubly impressive. I imagine there will be those who doubt the word or validity of this announcement but to those I'd say it is better to expect the best of others and be occassionally disappointed than it is to expect only the worst and create continual self-fulfilling prophesies of despair. Obsidian Front as an NRDS entity committed to the prosperity and opportunity of the Matari people can be a powerful positive influence. I would hope that the bold words and honest sacrifice offered in this press release will find appropriate hearing and honest reflection in the hearts of those that read it. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Mikkel Lybecker Gradient Electus Matari 135	Posted - 2012.02.04 01:32:00 - [6] - Quote Dear Mr. Enob The change in tone from you is certainly appreciated and whether motivated by tactical necessity or genuine concern for the best interests of all parties, is nevertheless a step in the right direction compared to past interactions such at this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25620 . However tempting it may be to now address specific claims you have now made in public, I do not, and will never, conduct diplomatic negotiations via these forums. You are more than welcome to open a chat with me at any time whenever you might see me in the pod, or send me an email if I am unavailable. Regards, Miss Mikkel Lybecker Head Diplomat, Electus Matari
Kaleigh Doyle Red Skies Enterprises 48	Posted - 2012.02.04 03:20:00 - [7] - Quote It's nice how political necessity can sober a proud man. I liked your tale at least, and hopeful for a positive resolution if you are honest with your intentions.
Sofia Roseburn Doctrine. FEARLESS. 0	Posted - 2012.02.04 15:32:00 - [8] - Quote It's certainly interesting to see something like this at such an early stage of a conflict, even if I'm not particularly sure that it's worth announcing. Re-confirming your core ideals to the capsuleer masses is usually reserved for such a time when you have no more fight to give, and that's not something I can say I've seen as yet. It seems a bit odd to be scrabbling to reclaim some element of favour with those that you have raised the ire of, especially in such a public setting, but I suppose you are doing what you think is best for your alliance in order to keep it alive. Might be in your best interests to keep Capt. Devil from sounding off again though if you wish to succeed; boring people to death with disgustingly generic patriotism probably isn't good for business in the long run. Allegedly, always.
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1	Posted - 2012.02.04 16:02:00 - [9] - Quote Bah, I'm in a difficult position here. As much as I'd love to help kick some pompous Electus teeth in; they are neutral. Sometimes NRDS really is a *****.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1226	Posted - 2012.02.04 16:08:00 - [10] - Quote Sofia Roseburn wrote: It's certainly interesting to see something like this at such an early stage of a conflict, even if I'm not particularly sure that it's worth announcing. Re-confirming your core ideals to the capsuleer masses is usually reserved for such a time when you have no more fight to give, and that's not something I can say I've seen as yet. I think there is some confusion about which conflict is which Sofia. One of the problems with mercenary declarations is you never really know who hired them or who is behind the scenes. As I read this declaration from FRONT I'm seeing it directed purposefully towards Electus Matari and asserting an Anti Amarrian pro NRDS agenda which is clearly designed to seek common feeling with likeminded entities. I guess its "possible" that Electus might hire NBSI mercs to fight their wars for them in lowsec but I have say I find it very very unlikely and truly not their style. Far more likely in my eyes that the mercs (yourself included) are working for other NBSI enclosurist elements in the general area. In particular the Rancer pirates (United/neg ten) were boasting about bringing in "friends" to do their work for them so maybe there is meaning there? Who knows really. Sofia Roseburn wrote: It seems a bit odd to be scrabbling to reclaim some element of favour with those that you have raised the ire of, especially in such a public setting, but I suppose you are doing what you think is best for your alliance in order to keep it alive. Might be in your best interests to keep Capt. Devil from sounding off again though if you wish to succeed; boring people to death with disgustingly generic patriotism probably isn't good for business in the long run. To offer a counterpoint - I don't really see this as "scrabbling for favour" so much as clarifying an identity and maturing as an organization. I know from long experience in dealing with a great number of alliances that the problems that arise from relatively few pilots asserting the rights to shoot who they please can very easily embroil hundreds of other pilots in wars they neighter sought nor want to fight. NBSI is a horrible ideology for an industrial-minded multi-focus alliance. The NBSI fighters seek the weakest possible targets to gratify themselves upon and then when war beckons are often nowhere to be found because NSBI makes people super evolved to fighting only the weak. For FRONT an enlightened NRDS ideology makes perfect sense. They are deploying infrastructure to open up lowsec to neutral trade and commerce. They make a profit from neutrals utilising these facilities - what kind of an idiotic business plan would it be to shoot the very people you are hoping to retain as repeat customers. Still how effective the gesture and realignment is only time will tell. But I do think it is a sensible move to seek ceasefire with another NRDS neutral-respecting Matari-centric alliance while being under attack from multiple NBSI piratico-mercenary raider corps. I don't think any pro-commerce lowsec settlement minded entity can truly wish the Rancer pirates to flourish and widen their influence at this point regardless of how much harm their agents might do to the targets of internicene feuding. Sometimes decent people need to draw a breath and reassess the situation. Realise the universe is a dynamic place and circumstances change. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Sofia Roseburn Doctrine. FEARLESS. 0	Posted - 2012.02.04 16:50:00 - [11] - Quote I was going rattle of some award earning speech about how Eyob is doing things wrong and how he could improve on his situation without having to keep his merry band of capsuleers under the wing of others, but then it struck me. It doesn't matter. I really don't need to push the point, because at the end of the day no matter what Obsidian Front stands for and no matter what they claim that they want to do to assist the Minmatar Republic in their struggle against slavery, the core premise is laced with hypocrisy. Evidently half of them don't give a **** no matter what is said. They are still dropping capitals on starbases and attempting to tear them down illegally. They are still pirating in the Aeman constellation and beyond. Hell, I bet their members would be working with agents in the Empire if they lived closer. It all comes together to form a beautiful picture when you look at it through Eyob's rose tinted glasses, but when you look from the outside you see a group of people who claim to stamping down on one thing, yet are continuing to do what they have done for however long, ensuring that nothing is going to progress to a "more peaceful" stage. Why don't we let Eyob come out from under your wing Jade. Let him stand up and defend himself. We both know he's got the balls, even if they are fortified by alcohol. Allegedly, always.
Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front 44	Posted - 2012.02.04 17:16:00 - [12] - Quote I dont need to defend anything. We had alot of pride to swollow by the statement last night. We have a few lose cannons mabe a handfull out of 308 pilots. They couldnt handle NBSI, and I for one used it against neutral pilots in aeman area, mainly to recruit. But we need to look at the 300 people not missusing the NBSI. As it is right now, its Obsidian Front against all of New Eden more or less. We are fighting pirates and Amarr on one side and EM and COA on another, leaving us in the middle. We have a low sec industri and a special interest in Lava planets to monitor the ammount of Obsidian on those planets. Now fighting everyone and even making new enemies with the few lose canons aint helping our commen goals within our alliance. We are 70% industrial and 30% combat pilots, so its no secret that there is a pressure from our engineers everytime we end up with war in high sec. Last year we were fighting for 22 weeks. Now the only solusion for me as an alliance leader to solve this is turning from NBSI to NRDS (We will still be NBSI in Null Sec) and try and reduce the ammount of wars. Its also a pain to be fighting fx. Black Soul Industries on one gate and COA on another. So i hope a mutral solution in matari space can be solved soon, as the cost for all parties who should be fighting the same enemy are to high, and the outcome doesnt help the Matari people in any way. Our alliance was mainly buildt on old friends from the Minmatar Faction Warefare, so we have an interest in what i is going on in the regions we do business in and leave the slavers out, and have them pay for what they have done to some of us. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1226	Posted - 2012.02.04 17:49:00 - [13] - Quote Sofia Roseburn wrote: I was going rattle of some award earning speech about how Eyob is doing things wrong and how he could improve on his situation without having to keep his merry band of capsuleers under the wing of others, but then it struck me. It doesn't matter. I really don't need to push the point, because at the end of the day no matter what Obsidian Front stands for and no matter what they claim that they want to do to assist the Minmatar Republic in their struggle against slavery, the core premise is laced with hypocrisy. Speaking in general Sofia one might well say the essence of warfare in New Eden is curently laced with hypocrisy of course. We all profess to seeking "good fights", "excitement" "honourable battles" the clash of arms and conflict and the lamentations of the foe. But in reality none of that really matters, its the bottom line, the efficiency, the reputation for cold calculus that wins out in the end. One has to see the funny side at advise from a paid mercenary to the victim as to how they might improve things though. Quote: Evidently half of them don't give a **** no matter what is said. They are still dropping capitals on starbases and attempting to tear them down illegally. They are still pirating in the Aeman constellation and beyond. Hell, I bet their members would be working with agents in the Empire if they lived closer. There you see, here comes the florid speech grins. Its pretty easy to run together a sequence of accusations some rooted in reality others pure fantasy and to allow ingrained animosity to fill in the blanks for the audience. I imagine the "illegal" tearing down of starbases would be any aggression against reds in lowsec without concord dec? Piracy I'll grant you, some FRONT pilots aggressed neutrals - but really - that is no more pirate behaviour than any NBSI organization your own included Sofia. As for agents in empire - well, weak sauce really but lets not stop the rhetorical flow. Quote: It all comes together to form a beautiful picture when you look at it through Eyob's rose tinted glasses, but when you look from the outside you see a group of people who claim to stamping down on one thing, yet are continuing to do what they have done for however long, ensuring that nothing is going to progress to a "more peaceful" stage. Its been all of 18 hours since Ynot made the announcement. Front as an organization is under siege from two mercenary alliances, under threat from another - all NBSI aggressors combined with continuing animosity from other anti pirates in Matari lowsec. Could it be you are expecting too much immediacy in the change of methodology? Or perhaps its simply psychological warfare in part. Either way, does seem a slightly overreaching point. Quote: Why don't we let Eyob come out from under your wing Jade. Let him stand up and defend himself. We both know he's got the balls, even if they are fortified by alcohol. Well truthfully speaking Ynot has never been sheltered under my (or any other) wing. His organization makes its own choices, its own mistakes, and chooses its own path. We in Star Fraction choose to fly with them against mutual pirate/nbsi foes because we saw in FRONT an example of independent-minded pilots prepared to take up arms in their own defense. They have taken many risks and made sacrifices - they now show good sense and practical idealism in the face of malign plotting from regressive powers. The real question now is if these overtures will be answered and recipricated by others who see the creeping threat of NBSI roadblocking and pirate manipulations in Matari space. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Kalaratiri Teraa Matar 108	Posted - 2012.02.04 18:46:00 - [14] - Quote It may be useful to note that EM and FRONT have been at war several times in the last year, maybe as many as three. While the current war may be young, it is only the latest in a string of engagements.
Vlad Cetes Doctrine. FEARLESS. 3	Posted - 2012.02.04 19:41:00 - [15] - Quote Amantus is a bad
Master OlavPancrazio Doctrine. FEARLESS. 0	Posted - 2012.02.04 20:18:00 - [16] - Quote Vlad Cetes wrote: Amantus is a bad Vlad Has had his communication rights suspended for communicating without alliance leadership permission.
Johan Marberg Gradient Electus Matari 0	Posted - 2012.02.04 21:48:00 - [17] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: [quote=Sofia Roseburn]I guess its "possible" that Electus might hire NBSI mercs to fight their wars for them in lowsec but I have say I find it very very unlikely and truly not their style. Just putting my .02 isks worth in here. To my knowledge while I have been a member EM has never hired mercs. Why hire a dog when you can bite people yourselves. And on the subject of Mercs. God Squad have decced EM. Which is cool. More blinky reds to shoot at is fine with me. But a bit strange that citizen Eyob talks of peace but also hires mercenaries to attack us. I'm sure he will deny that they're on his dime. Because you know that's just what he does.
Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front 46	Posted - 2012.02.04 22:18:00 - [18] - Quote The God Squad decced OF for a fun fight same time as Fearless. We made a deal we would Dec The God Squad for a good BS fight once our decs are gone, else they wouldnt get any fights. We did not ask them to dec EM, but i guess they are looking forward to the fight, or because they are bored.. Not our doing. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1226	Posted - 2012.02.04 22:21:00 - [19] - Quote Johan Marberg wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: [quote=Sofia Roseburn]I guess its "possible" that Electus might hire NBSI mercs to fight their wars for them in lowsec but I have say I find it very very unlikely and truly not their style. Just putting my .02 isks worth in here. To my knowledge while I have been a member EM has never hired mercs. Why hire a dog when you can bite people yourselves. And on the subject of Mercs. God Squad have decced EM. Which is cool. More blinky reds to shoot at is fine with me. But a bit strange that citizen Eyob talks of peace but also hires mercenaries to attack us. I'm sure he will deny that they're on his dime. Because you know that's just what he does. I would be extremely surprised if Ynot hired Godsquad against anyone Johan. Having experienced the fiasco of Godsquad on our joint coms during a deployment against Fearless I think nobody would be impressed by their competance. In any event Godsquad are also wardecced against Star Fraction and if you guys ever need help blowing the heck out of them let us know! Bottom line godsquad are attention seeking asshats and nobody really needs to put too much thought into their motivations. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Snake O'Donell Core Impulse FEARLESS. 0	Posted - 2012.02.04 22:38:00 - [20] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: Johan Marberg wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: [quote=Sofia Roseburn]I guess its "possible" that Electus might hire NBSI mercs to fight their wars for them in lowsec but I have say I find it very very unlikely and truly not their style. Just putting my .02 isks worth in here. To my knowledge while I have been a member EM has never hired mercs. Why hire a dog when you can bite people yourselves. And on the subject of Mercs. God Squad have decced EM. Which is cool. More blinky reds to shoot at is fine with me. But a bit strange that citizen Eyob talks of peace but also hires mercenaries to attack us. I'm sure he will deny that they're on his dime. Because you know that's just what he does. I would be extremely surprised if Ynot hired Godsquad against anyone Johan. Having experienced the fiasco of Godsquad on our joint coms during a deployment against Fearless I think nobody would be impressed by their competance. In any event Godsquad are also wardecced against Star Fraction and if you guys ever need help blowing the heck out of them let us know! Bottom line godsquad are attention seeking asshats and nobody really needs to put too much thought into their motivations. You mean like when Ynot hired godsquad against us? I honestly wouldn't put such treachery beyond him. It was less than a week ago when he contacted godsquad and paid them to cease their dec with his alliance and to dec us. However I see your point Jade, that whole deal ended terribly for you guys. However Ynot does not seem to be one who learns from his mistakes, banging his head against a wall seems to be his special talent.
Christine Peeveepeeski Killing With Kindness The Obsidian Front 49	Posted - 2012.02.04 23:48:00 - [21] - Quote Good evening ladies and gentleman. I'm not usually one for words in this arena of communication. Among the few that know me outside of the corporations that fly with me I am known to stick to my word. Unfortunately, I fear that after reading back through posts made by some in the thread anything I say would get spun. That and the fact I have a dubious past in the eyes of those here and until recently was very much a pirate means little I say here will mean much to those that hold an opinion. However as an alliance diplomat, newly appointed by my peers and also as a long time friend to Ynot and the obsidian front I find myself offering my take on this so you, the reader can get a view from one of the people in OF that would be held against the alliance as a whole as a poor example. First, some of my history (my apologies if you don't care but it lends context I hope fleshes out my stance on OF). I was born into conflict, much like many of us. Tasked to learn to destroy, to take that which was not mine and above all to ensure that I won. I was trained to hunt those weaker, avoid stronger forces and sow destruction as I flew a lonely path. My targets were often of opportunity, as they are when you are a capsuleer without a cause, shooting for the next ISK blink in your wallet. Taking weapons and system modules from ships if they did not pay a ransom to end their destruction. I continued like this, honing some degree of skill. At least enough to hold my head high against other pirates but I do remain humble that I am far from the best and have much to learn regarding ship combat. Then I made a home for myself, I wanted a reason to fight beyond ISK so I started specifically to target Amarr militia at their weakest. Taking up residence in the Eugidi constellation preying upon the Amarr militia running missions for their superiors. I still attacked neutrals now and then, mostly due to reasons that I won't go into here however most of my personal operations were targeted at those that have enslaved my kind for so many years. If there is one thing I know hurts it's the damage to the wallet and I for my small part have inflicted heavy loss to the Amarr. I am proud of this, I may not be proud of what I did in my formative years but I accept those actions as part of who I am. It was at this time I met the Obsidian Front, through a previous corporation contact they joined us on some joint operations against war targets and I very quickly realised the good nature they have and the honour they hold to each other. Granted, I often considered their combat operations unrefined but it was a joy to fly with them. I then left my old corp, not because I wanted to.Aactivity in flight logs declined to a point that I was sure I wanted to try something new. I wanted a purpose beyond shooting capsuleers for the isk in their wallets and ships. The destruction of amarr was an example that I could actually satiate my desire to burn the skies with a temper of righteous purpose. I joined obsidian front, one of the things I value is that to those I have befriended I trust my assets. it is hard to find a corp these days that is not a scam waiting to happen and I knew OF well. I knew Ynot and the members of the alliance were honourable to their word, if not perhaps naive and looking at this situation that stands before OF, definitely politically naive. Ynot first mentioned to me the option of going NRDS with our ROE. I have a heavy negative security status and I knew what that means to me and my way of life. Granted my sec status stays low because of the attacks on Amarr. Why on earth CONCORD penalise me for destroying amarr targets attacking minmatar assets in Minmatar space who knows. However I am willing to live with that and lose my own ships to people that will shoot me regardless of my ROE.
Christine Peeveepeeski Killing With Kindness The Obsidian Front 49	Posted - 2012.02.04 23:48:00 - [22] - Quote Why? Because Ynot believes in this change. He's not very good at public speaking and certainly holds pride but frankly, reading the rhetoric in his antagonists posts it's hard not to be wound up like a spring. I know he wants the best for the hundreds of neutral capsuleers in the alliance that do not have anything to do with the few of us tarnishing the alliances name to those that would judge us. Ynot wants to give some stability to the alliance members that make up our core and he is willing to prostrate himself in front of you all which is far more than some of you deserve of a man like Ynot. I do not like EM, however that's only because I have read posts from people like Johan Marberg and similar that hold opinion without proof. It's in our nature to get defensive like that when someone questions mine, and my friends honour. That said, he honestly may believe that we are far worse than we actually are and that in the case above believes we hired the God squad to wardec them. It's understandable, he can't know for sure what our intentions are unless he has placed a spy in the corps of the alliance which in all honesty, wouldn't be that hard. If however that is the case, then there is clearly an agenda beyond simply showing us 'the light' so to speak. I would perhaps wonder, is the simplest answer the truth? the god squad may just not like EM. There are MANY corps and alliances that hold EM's holier than thou stance in a less than positive light. Personally I can only see this stance as a logical conclusion of the direction that EM have taken and one can not begrudge them because is there not a hint of truth that if you have power, would you not flaunt it to meet your own agenda? Anyway, if you got this far without leaving the channel then please understand this. OF are not a force for destruction in metropolis or any other area of space. Misguided enthusiasm? perhaps. Does that justify some of the actions people like I have performed? no possibly not... we will have to fix our image through action and for those actions we will be judged once more. I wonder if that is enough for some...
JackEuchre Order Collective The Obsidian Front 1	Posted - 2012.02.05 01:17:00 - [23] - Quote Greetings my fellow matari pilots. Born in the federation, and now residing in Matari, I have had my past history as well. I do not take pride in any pirating in the past which I have engaged. While, I do prefer to only fight in my defense and fight those who are preying on those weaker and are red, I have occassionaly shoot a nuetral. Like my other OF pilots, we collectively renouce our NBSI policy for the more noble NRDS policy. My Corporation came to OF several months ago when we were stuck in a griefing war dec by pirates who were determined to rob us of our freedom to fly. While they were unsuccessful in that endevour the war persisted all summer. OF and Ynot helped us resolve this situation and allowed us to proceed in our mutual economic interest. For that I am loyal to OF. For those that don't know Ynot, while his communication skills may be weak and his decisions have occassionaly not been the best of decisions, his honour and word is solid. I am in discussion with him on many issues during any given week and can testify that there is not devious scheme involved here. Much naivity - which we both share, but no dark schemes. OF has not, will not, and shall never hire Mercs. The God Squad has decced us multiple times in the past and I personally have no love for them or their ways. Our recent joint operation with them against Fearless (who was hired by someone to dec OF of whom I don't care) was smitten by much strife and failure to the point that The God Squad ended up pulling out, along with their support ships and decced our very good friends and partners Star Faction. Obviously, not a good decision and it came with consequences that are regretable. As you can likely tell, our relationship with them is hardly to the point that we would ever consider flying with them, talking with them and as if we would even consider hiring mercs, would be consider them an option. In my sole opinion, while they have much success, their professionalism and conduct is far from honourable. I look forward to our arranged battle against them. Per the timing of this policy and the policy in general. This was not made without some debate and not made lightly. And obviously three concurrent wars had some sway on it, but wars come and wars go. This policy is here to stay. As Jade pointed out, our decision to enter into low tax POCO enterprise, lent as much to this decision as any other. Does it really make since as an alliance to permit piracy against ships entering concord free security space who are neutral who likely are simply trying to do business with us or our allies. Of course not. that would be bad for business. Further, as noted, our constant engagements with pirates on one side and anti-pirates on the other made it to the point where we realized those who consider us red far out numbered those who consider us blue. All this due to the point that we had an illadviced policy that could be hurting our economic interests in low sec. We do not, nor did we expect changing our policy from NBSI to NRDS will cause any immediately changes in our current war situation. Ultimately, it could cause more short term issues. I think from the perspective of the long term goal of the whole of OF and its member corps and Matari space in general, it is a decision for the better, and one we will honour.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1226	Posted - 2012.02.05 03:46:00 - [24] - Quote Snake O'Donell wrote: You mean like when Ynot hired godsquad against us? I honestly wouldn't put such treachery beyond him. I suggest you step gently back away from the bong and dial down the hyperbole mr O'Donell. Lets not confuse the alleged act of hiring one mercenary group to fight another mercenary group with something called "treachery". You can certainly say you wouldn't find that beyond him, but describing an interaction with mercs (however useless they are) as "treacherous" is just silly. Quote: It was less than a week ago when he contacted godsquad and paid them to cease their dec with his alliance and to dec us. However I see your point Jade, that whole deal ended terribly for you guys. However Ynot does not seem to be one who learns from his mistakes, banging his head against a wall seems to be his special talent. Well, as I understand it Godsquad decced FRONT the moment Double Tap lapsed their dec (after SF had counter decced Double Tap) and the Godsquad chief dude wanted to get into the picture. Then you guys decced FRONT (for whatever reason) and I believe Godsquad dude told FRONT how much he hated you guys and offered to set you up "the bomb" in Lamadent. Now speaking personally I had never heard of Godsquad before that evening and after listening to their treatise on fleet tactics and successful capital "baiting" (which for the record NEVER involves 40 armour hacs) - I don't think I missed much. But the point is its a tangled situation with mercs on mercs on mercs against mercs on mercs with a side order of mercs surprise. At this point it looks like somebody has spurted all their isk against the wall in a rage-contract for some reason and all the mercs are tripping over each other's feet like comedy clowns in an amateur theatrical production! Still you are right in one way. Godsquad are awful. Nobody should ever bother trying to hire those guys. Even free they are utter rubbish. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Snake O'Donell Core Impulse FEARLESS. 0	Posted - 2012.02.05 08:45:00 - [25] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: Snake O'Donell wrote: You mean like when Ynot hired godsquad against us? I honestly wouldn't put such treachery beyond him. I suggest you step gently back away from the bong and dial down the hyperbole mr O'Donell. Lets not confuse the alleged act of hiring one mercenary group to fight another mercenary group with something called "treachery". You can certainly say you wouldn't find that beyond him, but describing an interaction with mercs (however useless they are) as "treacherous" is just silly. The treacherous part that I was talking about was hiring mercs against Electus Matari whilst at the same time claiming to be a Matari loyalist. If that is not treacherous or backstabbing then I don't know what is. On the other hand perhaps Ynot suffers from multiple personality disorder, which if that is the case then it would explain alot about interactions with him.
Christine Peeveepeeski Killing With Kindness The Obsidian Front 49	Posted - 2012.02.05 10:06:00 - [26] - Quote Snake O'Donell wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: Snake O'Donell wrote: You mean like when Ynot hired godsquad against us? I honestly wouldn't put such treachery beyond him. I suggest you step gently back away from the bong and dial down the hyperbole mr O'Donell. Lets not confuse the alleged act of hiring one mercenary group to fight another mercenary group with something called "treachery". You can certainly say you wouldn't find that beyond him, but describing an interaction with mercs (however useless they are) as "treacherous" is just silly. The treacherous part that I was talking about was hiring mercs against Electus Matari whilst at the same time claiming to be a Matari loyalist. If that is not treacherous or backstabbing then I don't know what is. On the other hand perhaps Ynot suffers from multiple personality disorder, which if that is the case then it would explain alot about interactions with him. I respect fearless in battle, clearly you are a capable foe. It is a true shame that you personally do not show the same poise in this channel as your corp does in battle. Without proof your words are just spurious claims I expect are to win some kind of propaganda agenda against OF or Ynot personally. I have no time for that, these public channels are often nothing more than an ego waving contest. Shoot at us fine, but don't think it's for nothing more than a good fight or a sum of ISK. Mercs have little ground to stand on when it comes to just cause. Fearless may be different, I hope your post is not the norm for your corp.
Jereth Ravyn Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 29	Posted - 2012.02.05 12:53:00 - [27] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: "...step gently back away from the bong and dial down the hyperbole..." She speaks truth. Ynot's communication is both sincere and lacking in the rhetorical vitriol that IGS readers all too often have to wade through.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1226	Posted - 2012.02.05 13:07:00 - [28] - Quote Snake O'Donell wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: Snake O'Donell wrote: You mean like when Ynot hired godsquad against us? I honestly wouldn't put such treachery beyond him. I suggest you step gently back away from the bong and dial down the hyperbole mr O'Donell. Lets not confuse the alleged act of hiring one mercenary group to fight another mercenary group with something called "treachery". You can certainly say you wouldn't find that beyond him, but describing an interaction with mercs (however useless they are) as "treacherous" is just silly. The treacherous part that I was talking about was hiring mercs against Electus Matari whilst at the same time claiming to be a Matari loyalist. If that is not treacherous or backstabbing then I don't know what is. On the other hand perhaps Ynot suffers from multiple personality disorder, which if that is the case then it would explain alot about interactions with him. As I read it FRONT have declared their formal support to the Matari people and have made good on that position by providing low-tax Customs Offices in Matari lowsec and now adopting a progressive ROE that promotes neutral trade. They consider themselves friends of the Tribal Liberation Force, Ushra'khan, and opposed to Amarrian Imperialism. These are soild demonstrations of commitment to the Matari cause. While I do not believe that FRONT would hire GODSQUAD against Electus Matari I will grant you that I do not have access to transcendent insight that would allow me the 100% certainty on the issue you claim to possess. Clearly you must have some proof in order to make such definitive statements and I believe now you must demonstrate that proof or retract your accusation through lack of credibility. If it turns out you are correct I will apologize for doubting you. Otherwise let the general IGS public note the balance of interaction and weight future reputations accordingly. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Aren Dar Griffin Capsuleers Ad-Astra 10	Posted - 2012.02.05 13:47:00 - [29] - Quote A friendly critique. It sounds like your alliance really needs intelligence and diplomacy departments, and to have them operate out of the limelight of the forums.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1226	Posted - 2012.02.05 14:58:00 - [30] - Quote Aren Dar wrote: A friendly critique. It sounds like your alliance really needs intelligence and diplomacy departments, and to have them operate out of the limelight of the forums. Always a little bit depressing to hear this sentiment expressed. To surrender the Summit to trolls and raving lunatics is to give up on many possibilities of persuasion and progressive example. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!

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