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Mar vel
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:53:00 -
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I don't have to go to 0.0 for combat anymore- hell, that's dangerous. So I'll just round up a dozen of my buddies and sit in a circle-jerk @ a gate in a .4 system and WTFPWN everything in sight - without any foreseeable consequence (except those pesky kill rights, which are useless)
I mean, WTF - can't you folks think up a way to push this kind of combat into 0.0? -I'd at least like the opportunity to GET TO 0.0 - now I can't even get out of .5 reaosnably well.
This is idiotic, crusty old game mechanics. CCP: If you can apply *balance* to everything in sight - why is this conveniently overlooked?
Jerks.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:54:00 -
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And your suggestion is? ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |

Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:55:00 -
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Didn't Pandemic legion just set everyone to neutral?
Get out of empire and kill something. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
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Darken Two
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:56:00 -
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Breathe buddy breathe....you're turning blue.
And low sec gate camping has existed since the beginning....did you jsut nnotice it today?
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic And your suggestion is?
I have no idea what his suggestin might be, but mine is get rid of gates. Eve can be so much more than it is.
More here, http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=625147&page=4#116
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-AS
The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link) |

Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:00:00 -
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Lost time is the cost of lowsec gate camping. They're not making any ISK or doing anything constructive, which is why so many career pirates complain they're poor.
As for you, avoiding lowsec gate camps is easy! Just mix and match from this list, the more you do, the less gatecamps will bother you.
1) Use the starmap. Blobs sitting on gates tend to make big bright totally unmissable red spots. 2) Send an alt scout through the gate, or jump in a shuttle and scout it yourself. 3) Don't go through the gate in anything that's too painful to lose. ----- My in Eve Profile |

Mallikan
Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:01:00 -
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Your stuff? --- lol.. I messed up.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mallikan Your stuff?
Can i has it?
Snigg are mostly very good, i dont know where they got this guy...
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: umop 3pisdn
Originally by: Mallikan Your stuff?
Snigg are mostly very good, i dont know where they got this guy...
Snigg are good, but that's not a fair statement about this guy. The space mechanics are getting old, folks are getting bored with it. Time for space to grow up.
-AS
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Mar vel
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:11:00 -
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This kind of combat is ridiculous - it's like the "badMotorFinger" power chord being applied repeatedly to create music - take no talent, and completely hoses everyone except the person(s) attacking. With a remote repair round-robin, I can sustain that scenario indefinitely. in short, it's unbalanced because it favors one party in the combat scenario exclusively.
Suggestions - no f**ing idea. Just sick of wasting my time travelling for no apparant reason other than the fact that CCP can't pull their heads out of the a*ses long enough to fix something that obviously broken.
If the risk/reward tradeoff for being the aggressors and engaging in this kind of combat is a sec status hit - well, WTF - that's not much of a deterrent, now, is it?
Put some hurt on these folks - and at least make it incredibly painful to engage in this kind of crap combat - because, honestly, what kind of chance does 1-2 ships (any 1-2 ships) have against a 12-man gank squad in BS and CS's with Logistics support? Answer: No chance at all.
It stuff like this that makes me go slap in a new set of +4's and then log out for another month. The point being, what's the point of burning $50/month in Eve subs if this is the kind of crap that I have to look forward to....plain and simple.
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Mallikan
Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:13:00 -
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You guys are really having this much trouble with gate camps? Hm.
Sorry. --- lol.. I messed up.
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Caia
Gallente Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:15:00 -
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Wait... You play a PvP game but don't want to PvP?
No, probably not, otherwise why would you play a PvP game to begin with (assuming you have any sense). My guess is that you'd be more than happy to blow people up, which is WHY you play, but can't stand the fact that they can do the same to you?
Even better, don't go to low sec space. I'm an industralist. If *I* go to low sec space, I get shot at. I don't like being shot at so I stay away. What am I going to do, through my trit out the window at them? :)
But, since you're most likely going to completely ignore the above paragraph, at least play smarter. Check the map first. Use stabs. Get some scouts. There's really no reason to lose anything remotely important in low sec space if you take a little bit of extra time to, well, make sure you don't lose anything.
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Joana Darklight
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Caia Wait... You play a PvP game but don't want to PvP?
No, probably not, otherwise why would you play a PvP game to begin with (assuming you have any sense). My guess is that you'd be more than happy to blow people up, which is WHY you play, but can't stand the fact that they can do the same to you?
Even better, don't go to low sec space. I'm an industralist. If *I* go to low sec space, I get shot at. I don't like being shot at so I stay away. What am I going to do, through my trit out the window at them? :)
But, since you're most likely going to completely ignore the above paragraph, at least play smarter. Check the map first. Use stabs. Get some scouts. There's really no reason to lose anything remotely important in low sec space if you take a little bit of extra time to, well, make sure you don't lose anything.
I like pvp but getting ganked isnt pvp, infact there is no such thing as pvp in eve its always p'svp thats right always mutliple gankers against one person.
pvp in eve is laughable
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:18:00 -
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I hope for your sake you're trolling. Otherwise , an absolute disgrace to Snigg.
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Joana Darklight
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Caia Wait... You play a PvP game but don't want to PvP?
No, probably not, otherwise why would you play a PvP game to begin with (assuming you have any sense). My guess is that you'd be more than happy to blow people up, which is WHY you play, but can't stand the fact that they can do the same to you?
Even better, don't go to low sec space. I'm an industralist. If *I* go to low sec space, I get shot at. I don't like being shot at so I stay away. What am I going to do, through my trit out the window at them? :)
But, since you're most likely going to completely ignore the above paragraph, at least play smarter. Check the map first. Use stabs. Get some scouts. There's really no reason to lose anything remotely important in low sec space if you take a little bit of extra time to, well, make sure you don't lose anything.
oh and stabs are useless now that heavy dictors can stop you at a gate no matter what you have fitted.
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Skaz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:20:00 -
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I'm still not sure about the OP's grief, as far as I know this is as it has been since.....well since forever. Gate camping is a term that was created on day -365 pre release.
I admit that it is something that is annoying but not too difficult to overcome.
But as to changing the game mechanics to make it harder on the campers, well that's why CCP needs our suggestions.... - -
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Mallikan
Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:21:00 -
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FFS, don't cry about ganking. Go walk down an alley in Detroit, you're bound to get ganked IRL. What sort of point am I making? By going into "outlaw" space you are taking a risk. If people want to enjoy their $15/mo by sitting for an hour on a gate, good for them. Check your map and learn to go around. If you can't, find something else to do.
I made 53 jumps through 0.0 and lowsec in a shuttle on AUTOPILOT and never even got locked. 31k people online too! And you're telling me you're upset because you bumbled into a camped lowsec system? Aww..  --- lol.. I messed up.
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SnakeByte86
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic And your suggestion is?
How about gate guns that are actualy scary?
I used to solo gate camp in rancer, with a tanked sacriledge. Wasnt hard tanking the guns long.
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SnakeByte86
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mallikan FFS, don't cry about ganking. Go walk down an alley in Detroit, you're bound to get ganked IRL. What sort of point am I making? By going into "outlaw" space you are taking a risk. If people want to enjoy their $15/mo by sitting for an hour on a gate, good for them. Check your map and learn to go around. If you can't, find something else to do.
I made 53 jumps through 0.0 and lowsec in a shuttle on AUTOPILOT and never even got locked. 31k people online too! And you're telling me you're upset because you bumbled into a camped lowsec system? Aww.. 
Except in Detroit giant sentry guns do not exist in the alleys, and if they did, the ones in eve, are about as scary as giant foam football launchers.
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Mar vel
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mallikan FFS, don't cry about ganking. Go walk down an alley in Detroit, you're bound to get ganked IRL. What sort of point am I making? By going into "outlaw" space you are taking a risk. If people want to enjoy their $15/mo by sitting for an hour on a gate, good for them. Check your map and learn to go around. If you can't, find something else to do.
I made 53 jumps through 0.0 and lowsec in a shuttle on AUTOPILOT and never even got locked. 31k people online too! And you're telling me you're upset because you bumbled into a camped lowsec system? Aww.. 
and I've done that same thing also....and if you're auto-piloting through 0.0 and get whacked then you deserve to die. Empire - slightly different expectatations.
If I'm posting (which is really just asking for trouble) then I'm ****ed off enough about it to make a point. I've been playing this game long enough to understand the mechanics - and their limitations, which makes my opinon credible, at a minimum.
Is there alternatives - sure. Let's give pirates their due - no one is questioning *should* they be allowed to do this. Let's just not make it such and obvious i-win / u-lose scenario. I'd like to spend my playing time actually playing - not wasting my play time being the victim of such idiotic combat scenarios.
Your animosity is misplaced.
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David Khan
War Crimes
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:40:00 -
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Wow, someone in Snigg crying about pirates, seriously?
2/10 if it's a joke thread, if not, .
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SnakeByte86
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mar vel
Originally by: Mallikan FFS, don't cry about ganking. Go walk down an alley in Detroit, you're bound to get ganked IRL. What sort of point am I making? By going into "outlaw" space you are taking a risk. If people want to enjoy their $15/mo by sitting for an hour on a gate, good for them. Check your map and learn to go around. If you can't, find something else to do.
I made 53 jumps through 0.0 and lowsec in a shuttle on AUTOPILOT and never even got locked. 31k people online too! And you're telling me you're upset because you bumbled into a camped lowsec system? Aww.. 
and I've done that same thing also....and if you're auto-piloting through 0.0 and get whacked then you deserve to die. Empire - slightly different expectatations.
If I'm posting (which is really just asking for trouble) then I'm ****ed off enough about it to make a point. I've been playing this game long enough to understand the mechanics - and their limitations, which makes my opinon credible, at a minimum.
Is there alternatives - sure. Let's give pirates their due - no one is questioning *should* they be allowed to do this. Let's just not make it such and obvious i-win / u-lose scenario. I'd like to spend my playing time actually playing - not wasting my play time being the victim of such idiotic combat scenarios.
Your animosity is misplaced.
I want to clarify, as a former pirate, and very active PvPer. Anyone who gets sucide ganked in empire, or ganked at a gate in low sec, deserves it, you all just stupid, you guys know its dangerous.
But on that note, just because you guys were stupid and fell for it, Doesnt mean the system isnt broken. Sucide ganking needs much harsher penalites, i kiked a guy out of my corp once who would do it 10 times a day, and have no problem keeping his sec status high enough to continue doing it, I think attacking in .5 or higher should have a much steeper sec loss, twice, three times even.
Gate/station camping in low sec is to easy, even a well fit cruiser can kill people before the guns make him have to run. The guns are there for a reason, except they dont do anything really usefull. I used to camp in a apoc/sac, and my buddy would use raven.
Raven/apoc could tank the guns forever, with no problems. That screams of broken game mechanics. They need to be improved damage wise i believe, or even better would be each racial sentry, has a racial ew.
Not insane numbers as to make something useless, but enough that it makes it harder to sit there and keep popping people for ever.
Another problem, and this one i admit i dont know how to fix. But people who kill in empire, or low sec, should not be allowed to have friends, or alts looting things, the haulers need punished too. In real life, if i kill a guy, and a friend of mine, then robs the dead corpse, he is going to jail to, not just me.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mar vel I don't have to go to 0.0 for combat anymore- hell, that's dangerous. So I'll just round up a dozen of my buddies and sit in a circle-jerk @ a gate in a .4 system and WTFPWN everything in sight - without any foreseeable consequence (except those pesky kill rights, which are useless)
I mean, WTF - can't you folks think up a way to push this kind of combat into 0.0? -I'd at least like the opportunity to GET TO 0.0 - now I can't even get out of .5 reaosnably well.
This is idiotic, crusty old game mechanics. CCP: If you can apply *balance* to everything in sight - why is this conveniently overlooked?
Jerks.
Lol what?
Can we have your stuff? Since you will be leaving shortly.
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UMEE
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Tarminic And your suggestion is?
I have no idea what his suggestin might be, but mine is get rid of gates. Eve can be so much more than it is.
More here, http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=625147&page=4#116
</shamless plug>
i support this. getting rid of gates in select regions would lead to ridiculous amounts of pvp
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Seth Rock
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mar vel I don't have to go to 0.0 for combat anymore- hell, that's dangerous. So I'll just round up a dozen of my buddies and sit in a circle-jerk @ a gate in a .4 system and WTFPWN everything in sight - without any foreseeable consequence (except those pesky kill rights, which are useless)
I mean, WTF - can't you folks think up a way to push this kind of combat into 0.0? -I'd at least like the opportunity to GET TO 0.0 - now I can't even get out of .5 reaosnably well.
This is idiotic, crusty old game mechanics. CCP: If you can apply *balance* to everything in sight - why is this conveniently overlooked?
Jerks.
we live in delve incase you didn't know. _________________________________________
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:08:00 -
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roles removed Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |

Assata Shakur
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:11:00 -
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from the recruiters or Mar vel? 
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:16:00 -
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*EPIC FAIL* man u sir are in need of a good podding i here by declare u a carebear whiner go shoot a veld where u belong ...
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:24:00 -
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amamake gate camping anyone? ...
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Assata Shakur from the recruiters or Mar vel? 
From marvel Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
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