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Dr Paithos
Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hyllekjeks
Originally by: Keden
Originally by: Vlade Randal
The worst mess up i've experienced in online gaming.
LMFAO YOU NEVER PLAYED SWG THEN!!! SOZ CAPS!!!111!!!11111
Unsubscribe then you fool. Game is working for 99% of the eve population.
Sorry for my unconstructive post but come on! make a stupid post and get a stupid answer.
1% of eve players got poses they use? 
89.8% of statistics are made up on the spot
Quote: Thank you for kittens, glitter, for warm nights in fuzzy blankets... Thank you for dolphins, whales... Thank you for cartoons, for birthdays, for candy and cookies.
Thank you CCP!
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Syraine
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vlade Randal Trinity Patch has caused some serious issues. From minor bugs, to totally crashing out people's computers, rendering them useless.
If you expect bug free gaming, then perhaps MMOs are not for you. Yes the boot.ini thing was a bad mistake, but it didn't cause any physical damage and was easy to fix.
Originally by: Vlade Randal
I could go on for many paragraphs, but when it comes down to it, we all know this current patch is rubbish.
That is your opinion are you are entitled to it.
Originally by: Vlade Randal
The worst mess up i've experienced in online gaming.
You have not played very many MMO games I take it? A lot of games have had HUGE issues.
Originally by: Vlade Randal
CCP, i think you should compensate us with free EvE time to make up for all the crap you have put us through.
This is silly. It was a free expansion, if you don't like your game experience then vote with your wallet, cancel your account and find a game that makes you happier.
Originally by: Vlade Randal
I think its totally unfair that i am being charged to play when i believe the game is incomplete and thus not playable.
The game is NOT unplayable, it plays quite fine, yes it has some bugs, always has and always will. If YOU believe the game is "incomplete and thus not playable", then just cancel. You need to have a lot of patience and understand to enjoy MMOs, they are not instant gratification games, there will be a lot of bugs along the way, some things may take a while to be fixed, it happens in ALL MMOs. If the game was truly that unplayable, they would take the servers down and give people free playtime.
Yes there are some things that are screwed up with Trinity, but guess what? IT WAS FREE! Beyond that if you truly believe the game is so miserably broken now, then just leave and come back in a few months to see how its going.
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Thrust SSC
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:35:00 -
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Yes you're right. I completely agree with the OP.
Give your money to me instead. I promise I'll put it to good use.
Thanks.
Originally by: CCP Hammer If you are blind why do you care about better graphics?
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sesanti
Minmatar Universal Exports
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Vlade Randal Trinity Patch has caused some serious issues. From minor bugs, to totally crashing out people's computers, rendering them useless.
I could go on for many paragraphs, but when it comes down to it, we all know this current patch is rubbish.
The worst mess up i've experienced in online gaming.
CCP, i think you should compensate us with free EvE time to make up for all the crap you have put us through.
I think its totally unfair that i am being charged to play when i believe the game is incomplete and thus not playable.
"I could go on for many paragraphs" "we all know this current patch is rubbish." "From minor bugs, to totally crashing out people's computers, rendering them useless" "i think you should compensate us with free EvE"
Since when you represent the playerbase? Do not speak for me, please. If you feel the game is "incomplete" and "unplayable" then don't pay, it's that simple. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster -
<I am a guy... don't mind the portrait> |

DJ P
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: DJ P on 10/12/2007 16:54:18 This patch (except the issue with the POS*) was the best one so far. And I'm talking about the ACTUAL PATCH and not the PREMIUM CONTENT which is NOT MANDATORY to play the game. So stop complaining about the Premium Content. None force you to install it.
Regarding the Premium Content upgrade. Thank CCP that is free and you don't have to pay for it, as in EVERY OTHER MMORPG.
As for the other issues, except the few dozen people really being hit by the boot.ini problem, they are minor and are based on software installed on your computers.
I know quite a few friends who have multiple crashes, flickering screens, bad fps. It's on their systems and all of them belong to one of the categories : a) Pirate copies of windows, not updated for years. b) Hardware that barely supports the new engine. Nvidia 6800 is bare minimum. You need Nvidia 7600/8600 or Ati X1900+, Dual Core and 2GB RAM to properly play with the PREMIUM CONTENT not MANDATORY. c) Drivers for all hardware. (A lot of people fall on this category).
*I haven't see SirMolle or other serious people who have being hit badly by this bug. Only minors who troll for the sake of it.
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Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:56:00 -
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"Free expansion". 
Yeah, I only pay for my newspaper subscription...the actual papers are free!
No wonder some people so blindly defend CCP...they're getting a free game with their forum subscription.
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dieg0 sanchez
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:05:00 -
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I see alot of people just teling whoever is upset to quit. Wake up drats! The people that are mad are the ones that cant post a reply beacuse they cant start their computers!!!!! I wonder why you are all so quick to forget that?
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River McNamara
Caldari Project Aquarion Valkyrie Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:07:00 -
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in WOW, staff gives 1 free day for every long unplayable game time.. But EVE player EXP don't stop with server like Wow. __________________________ River McNamara Trasmissions Admiral & Ambassador |

Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Vlade Randal The worst mess up i've experienced in online gaming.
Worse than the last patch, better than the next! Gives us something to look forward to. 
-------------------- What? Me Worry? -------------------- |

Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Montague Zooma "Free expansion".  Yeah, I only pay for my newspaper subscription...the actual papers are free!
No wonder some people so blindly defend CCP...they're getting a free game with their forum subscription.
You sir, fail.
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:09:00 -
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You dont, now cancel your account and stop whining on the forums. If its such rubbish why do you want free time, wouldnt that just be a waste of time period if its such rubbish? No I think its better you stop wasting your time and our time with whine posts and cancel your account and send me your stuff thanks.
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |

dieg0 sanchez
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:12:00 -
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people have a right to be upset! you like eve right well how would you feel if you couldnt play because of downloading a manditory patch that was bugged to hell? think about it drat!
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Relyen
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vlade Randal Trinity Patch has caused some serious issues. From minor bugs, to totally crashing out people's computers, rendering them useless.
I could go on for many paragraphs, but when it comes down to it, we all know this current patch is rubbish.
The worst mess up i've experienced in online gaming.
CCP, i think you should compensate us with free EvE time to make up for all the crap you have put us through.
I think its totally unfair that i am being charged to play when i believe the game is incomplete and thus not playable.
In case it hasn't been posted.
Originally by: EVE EULA
NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
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Syraine
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Montague Zooma "Free expansion". 
Yeah, I only pay for my newspaper subscription...the actual papers are free!
No wonder some people so blindly defend CCP...they're getting a free game with their forum subscription.
Yes but people don't talk about suing the newspaper company because their paper showed up wet or ripped. Defending CCP or any other gaming company had very little to with it. People need to understand that MMOs are different then buying an FRP or RTS game. The quality will just not be the same. I don't care what game it is and who runs it, there is always something wrong with an MMO.
The simple fact here is if you don't like this MMO anymore for whatever reason, then don't play it. Most game devs glaze over people screaming and yelling on their forums. Where they REALLY start to notice is when subscriptions drop.
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dieg0 sanchez
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:18:00 -
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YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT! would you or would you not be upset if you were unable to play the game you like because of a manditory patch that F ed up your computer? Answer the question? PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UPSET THIS TIME! no where in there does it say that eve will make your whole computer be "unavaliable" does it ?????????????????
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Syraine
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: dieg0 sanchez YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT! would you or would you not be upset if you were unable to play the game you like because of a manditory patch that F ed up your computer? Answer the question? PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UPSET THIS TIME! no where in there does it say that eve will make your whole computer be "unavaliable" does it ?????????????????
NOT True
The boot.ini thing happened because of an OPTIONAL PATCH, the classic patch did not cause the problem.
Do people who installed the OPTIONAL Premium patch and actually had it cause their PC to crash and not boot anymore have a right to be upset?
Hell Yes!
But claiming the game is not playable is false. It is very playable, and quite a lot of people are playing with little or no issue.
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dieg0 sanchez
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:31:00 -
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I will Agree with that 100% I just hate it when others answer to someone bringing up and issue is to "just quit then"
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Relyen
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: dieg0 sanchez YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT! would you or would you not be upset if you were unable to play the game you like because of a manditory patch that F ed up your computer? Answer the question? PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UPSET THIS TIME! no where in there does it say that eve will make your whole computer be "unavaliable" does it ?????????????????
I'm not missing the point. It does actually cover this in the EULA as I posted a few posts above. I will requote the section that covers your statement.
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
Don't get me wrong, if I my machine died. I'd be slighty upset. But I'd just save my data and reinstall windows (heck I do that once a year anyways). The potential for a system failure is possible with any piece of software or patch.
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Empyre on 10/12/2007 18:55:07 shut.the.****.up. for crying out loud OP, are you stupid or just.. oh wait, there is no other option. if you seriously cannot see how ridiculously idiotic you look starting ANOTHER thread about the SAME crap that 2938472987 other threads contain, then just cease to exist, starting now. you serve no other valuable purpose in life.
plus, on top of it all, you're an idiot.
edit: censorship ccp. you censored a made up word. amazing. one of the only legitimate complaints someone can have about you and they focus on threatening a team of lawyers they'll never afford to fight a claim that will never win in a court that will never see the case. i used to think i was closer to the bottom of the barrel in intelligence and common sense. thanks for at least proving me wrong people.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:56:00 -
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Going on forums and whining u quit if ccp doesn't give in to your demands = fail
comming on forums and flaming people and pretending eve is perfectly fine = fail
I think both sides should settle down and look at what their doing, stop whining that u will quit if ccp doesn't give u what u want, it makes u sound like a sad little git. But the other group is just as bad, pretending the game and the patch are perfectly fine and wonderfull, cmon, lets be honest here, releasing a patch that deletes ur boot.ini file can hardly be called perfectly fine and wonderfull, but thats not the point i want to make here, just stop pretending it is all good and dandy, it is not and it will never be so because thats just how it is in EVE.
Me personally i think as usual there are good and bad things in this patch, i love a lot of the new features and the graphics did look nice, but the purtier graphics come at a cost, people should realize that before whining, and ccp did make it so u can easily revert back to the classic version whenever u want.
The large number of nerfs are bad, tbh i have a hard time seeing a really thought through reason for nerfing some of them cept the mob on the forums that whined day in day out to have them nerfed, but some of the fixes are good and were badly needed.
So in a few weeks the dust will have settled, people will have decided to go with classic or premium, ohters will find ways around some nerfs, another 'i win' button will be found, and people will find something else they want to see nerfed and come whine about it on the forums, it's just same old really, i can't remember a big patch were stuff like this didn't happen.
I would like to conclude with the following few words.
The only way not to get sick and tired of this game is simple... adapt or die... it's always been like this and i can imagine it will remain like this for many a patch to come and i would not have survived all these years had i not followed this solid piece of advice.
If u don't agree with the above thats your choice and ur right but don't flame me for mine, or do, and see if i care.  CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Syraine
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: dieg0 sanchez I will Agree with that 100% I just hate it when others answer to someone bringing up and issue is to "just quit then"
Some people have a very harsh way of saying it, or just enjoy flaming people. Fact of the matter is though, MMO Devs have a tough job. I don't envy them one bit. Then people come on the forums and turn every other post into "You suck, you ruined our game, we demand compensation, etc..."
A lot less people actually come on here and post constructive criticisms, instead they just cry foul and insist someone owes them something, which doesn't help anyone.
I fully support the idea of just quitting if you are that upset. It is a game, its not worth being so upset about. Quit, take some time away, come back or find another game. It is easy for forum threads to be ignored, forgotten, or pushed back several pages. It is hard to ignore drops in subscribers, it directly affects the company. If you truly dislike the game enough to consider it unplayable then why pay for it? Just quit. You save your own sanity, ours, and you show the company that their product no longer interests you in it's current form.
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Kurt Armstrong
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:05:00 -
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Sure this patch has had its issues (major one's I might add) but at the end of the day if you don't believe you are getting a service that is worth your subscription, then simply cancel it?
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Exteerminator
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:15:00 -
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OP, you're a pathetic sack of ****. Please quit mmorpgs altogether, so no one else will have to endure your whining. 
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mishkof
Caldari eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:20:00 -
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lol at all the momos saying this is a complete working game ATM.
Just lol.
I own a T2 BPO and have a Capital alt. Please hate/troll/smack me. |

Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: dieg0 sanchez YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT! would you or would you not be upset if you were unable to play the game you like because of a manditory patch that F ed up your computer? Answer the question? PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UPSET THIS TIME! no where in there does it say that eve will make your whole computer be "unavaliable" does it ?????????????????
Premium content patch was not and is not manditory. I play the game same as you.. the difference is I understand this expantion was huge nearly as large as the original client alone not inclueding the the classic patch. So yeah something this big is going to come with problems just like EVERY patch/expantion of any mmo on the market. Deal with it.. it isnt the end of the world.
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |

MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:24:00 -
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Because the world does not revolve around you and you are not a unique and special snowflake.
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 comming on forums and flaming people and pretending eve is perfectly fine = fail
there is a distinct difference between 'pretending everything is perfectly fine' and understanding that nothing is perfect.. and letting the people who have kept it going this long worry about fixing those obvious problems.
threatening to sue their face off is not one of those things that helps the situation. you can't beat your point into anyone and expect them to actually listen. and in addition, you've seriously gotta review your point a few times in your head or amongst friends to actually validate it before foaming at the mouth trying to explain it in public.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:44:00 -
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This thread = waste of my time.
Compensation please.
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Killian Pirx
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 03:00:00 -
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The Trinity patch turned my computer into a two-thousand dollar paperweight. I havnt been able to boot it let alone play eve to enjoy the new features. Do I get compensation?
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.11 03:00:00 -
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Durr, I'm a consumer and I think I'm entitled to the moon, a backrub, and 40 pounds of chocolate if i'm not 100% satisfied
Vlade, if you are unhappy about paying, stop paying thats the only power a consumer has and whining on the internets really just makes you a pathetic excuse for a human being 
Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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