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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:16:00 -
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The new trinity update nerfed damps really bad..... Before update: -48% targeting range -48% resolution Now: -17% targeting range -17% resolution
This makes Arazu and Lachesis even weaker..... They can hardly do damage to break tanks they cant tank, now you take the damps away.
As support you can damp 3 ships at once with lachesis, now 6 damps = 3 damps you can only damp one person =( . I have a friend that put 4 million skillpoints in dampeners now hes using ecm qtf is that!!
CCP tryed to even them out with scripts, completely horrible. THe script incresses the damp to 34% targeting range but it makes reslotion on the damp 0% .. Drones will be an easy target now and all the enemy needs to do is mwd and web and blast away they can since the script makes your resolution useless on the damp.
Please unnerf or make them better, lachesis and arazu cant tank or do alot dps damps are there best weapon please do something 
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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:19:00 -
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The celetis crusier is completly useless now aswell, is has very little dps due to power grid and cpu, it can barely tank and now damps are nerfed to hell for it.
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:37:00 -
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The damp nerf whines began about a month ago. You're late.
C.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:41:00 -
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We can still protest =D, in a month or so you will see how many people start complaining about this.
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aquilles We can still protest =D, in a month or so you will see how many people start complaining about this.
Don't bother whining. CCP Zulupark has already spoken directly about this issue. He said the dev team already looked at the modules and that the modules are perfectly balanced now.
Just train Caldari cruiser 5 for now.
-Liang
-- I give up (Make me say whatever you want!): Price Check: Liang Nuren
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Heravik
Minmatar No Quarter. Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:50:00 -
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quote The new trinity update nerfed damps end quote
or "OMGZ I AREZ n00bs GOD FORBID I TRAIN ANOTHER SHIP BEFORE I GETS NERFEDDDD AWWWZZZ NOOOZZZ TTT_TTT
Putting it simply, less qq mroe pewpew ---------- [i]*Various Piraty Talk & Lingo*[/i |

Merii Kha'sen
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:50:00 -
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Slap a script on it. It's like 34% with a script. Rock on!
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:51:00 -
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True, they overdid the damp nerf a bit...
but ecm got boosted Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! We wont touch this sig! - Cortes I lied - Cortes LIAR! |

Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:53:00 -
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WHAT?!?!?!?
This is totally the first time I am hearing about this. It's not like it has been on the test server for 4 months and talked about on the forums for months and a dev blog on it and then in the patch notes. Completely zero warning on this CCP. My Lachesis is so broken, how can I solo wtfpwn people and laugh at them now. I used to just copy someone's cool setup and hit my damps, use drones and there's nothing the enemy can do. Now my enemy can possibly fight back, oh noes, I can't possibly play this game without my iwin button, I demand 100B isk and 100M sp training time I invested back please.
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Daanika
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:53:00 -
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Can't tank? 1600mm plate, 2 x EANM, SAR persists just fine for a cheap fleet support ship, which is it's intended role. Add some ecm drones and go!
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:53:00 -
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ECM + sensor resolution can be valuable. Atm a dampship can only take in a non effective way 1 ship out of the fight. With 4* ECM (racial) and 2* damp (resolution script) it will work. Just add 3* hypnos amps and it works.
Problem is, a BB can do this better  _________________________________________________ Breetime
A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |

MyOwnSling
Gallente RONA Corporation FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:54:00 -
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Nerf or no nerf, I am going to keep flying my lachesis just like I did, damps still make a difference. ------------- Stop whining.
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:57:00 -
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lachesis has 3 low slots dont tell me it can tank
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Arondor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.13 02:02:00 -
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4 damps, 2 rigs and skills, you can still damp decently.. maybe you won't even be primaried now since you are "nerfed"
I love my 'zu
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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 02:03:00 -
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they also nerfed the rigs for them too if you didnt know
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.13 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Arondor 4 damps, 2 rigs and skills, you can still damp decently.. maybe you won't even be primaried now since you are "nerfed"
I love my 'zu
I still dont see it as much help to a gang. Or you must lock the target very fast and it will take him 20 seconds to lock down your gang instead of 10. (reality)
Or it will make him lock with 100% withing 20 km range. Or it will lock everything in 15 seconds time and within 40 km range... _________________________________________________ Breetime
A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |

Dismus
Gallente Sigma Exploration
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:01:00 -
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Changes like this were designed to promote TEAM ACTIVITIES. This is good. It's bringing about the end of the solo PVPer... maybe now people can get some decent exploration in low-sec space without having to worry about some ***** in a 'zu or Lach popping up to cause trouble.
What a shame... one 'zu or Lach doesn't do the job they used to... maybe that will encourage all 'zu and Lach pilots obsessed with using only that ship to start flying with another pilot to complete the package. As for fleet operations, it just means you need more 'Zu's or Lach's. Know what that means, too? They have to work TWICE AS HARD to take out the fleet's dampening abilities. ;)
Find other whiners from this thread who hate the RSD nerf and work together. Now you have nothing to whine about. Congratulations! 
Originally by: Draeca Domi isn't ugly, it actually looks quite symphatic. I mean, a crossbreed of a whale and a potato.. Now how cute is that?
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aquilles Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 02:04:59 Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 01:27:58 The new trinity update nerfed damps really bad..... Before update: -48% targeting range -48% resolution Now: -17% targeting range -17% resolution
This makes Arazu and Lachesis even weaker..... They can hardly do damage to break tanks they cant tank, now you take the damps away.
As support you can damp 3 ships at once with lachesis, now 6 damps = 3 damps you can only damp one person =( . I have a friend that put 4 million skillpoints in dampeners now hes using ecm qtf is that!!
CCP tryed to even them out with scripts, completely horrible. THe script incresses the damp to 34% targeting range but it makes reslotion on the damp 0% .. Drones will be an easy target now and all the enemy needs to do is mwd and web and blast away they can since the script makes your resolution useless on the damp. Oh yeah forget rigs for damps they got nerfed too.
Please unnerf or make them better, lachesis and arazu cant tank or do alot dps damps are there best weapon please do something 
there not useless you are. ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Aquilles Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 02:04:59 Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 01:27:58 The new trinity update nerfed damps really bad..... Before update: -48% targeting range -48% resolution Now: -17% targeting range -17% resolution
This makes Arazu and Lachesis even weaker..... They can hardly do damage to break tanks they cant tank, now you take the damps away.
As support you can damp 3 ships at once with lachesis, now 6 damps = 3 damps you can only damp one person =( . I have a friend that put 4 million skillpoints in dampeners now hes using ecm qtf is that!!
CCP tryed to even them out with scripts, completely horrible. THe script incresses the damp to 34% targeting range but it makes reslotion on the damp 0% .. Drones will be an easy target now and all the enemy needs to do is mwd and web and blast away they can since the script makes your resolution useless on the damp. Oh yeah forget rigs for damps they got nerfed too.
Please unnerf or make them better, lachesis and arazu cant tank or do alot dps damps are there best weapon please do something 
there not useless you are.
i never said they were useless Im just saying they nerfed them too far.
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aquilles
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Aquilles Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 02:04:59 Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 01:27:58 The new trinity update nerfed damps really bad..... Before update: -48% targeting range -48% resolution Now: -17% targeting range -17% resolution
This makes Arazu and Lachesis even weaker..... They can hardly do damage to break tanks they cant tank, now you take the damps away.
As support you can damp 3 ships at once with lachesis, now 6 damps = 3 damps you can only damp one person =( . I have a friend that put 4 million skillpoints in dampeners now hes using ecm qtf is that!!
CCP tryed to even them out with scripts, completely horrible. THe script incresses the damp to 34% targeting range but it makes reslotion on the damp 0% .. Drones will be an easy target now and all the enemy needs to do is mwd and web and blast away they can since the script makes your resolution useless on the damp. Oh yeah forget rigs for damps they got nerfed too.
Please unnerf or make them better, lachesis and arazu cant tank or do alot dps damps are there best weapon please do something 
there not useless you are.
i never said they were useless Im just saying they nerfed them too far.
then why did you say it in the thread title -_- ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Faydelm
Caldari Model Of Aggression
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dismus Changes like this were designed to promote TEAM ACTIVITIES. This is good. It's bringing about the end of the solo PVPer... maybe now people can get some decent exploration in low-sec space without having to worry about some ***** in a 'zu or Lach popping up to cause trouble.
What a shame... one 'zu or Lach doesn't do the job they used to... maybe that will encourage all 'zu and Lach pilots obsessed with using only that ship to start flying with another pilot to complete the package. As for fleet operations, it just means you need more 'Zu's or Lach's. Know what that means, too? They have to work TWICE AS HARD to take out the fleet's dampening abilities. ;)
Find other whiners from this thread who hate the RSD nerf and work together. Now you have nothing to whine about. Congratulations! 
too bad you're a hypocrite http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Dismus&id=2466802&page=1&filter=losses#mail
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Dismus
Gallente Sigma Exploration
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dismus on 13/12/2007 20:36:54 Edited by: Dismus on 13/12/2007 20:35:11 Edited by: Dismus on 13/12/2007 20:34:18 Correct me if I'm wrong, but to be a hyprocrite, wouldn't I have to actually be *****ing and whining about the nerf?
You really need to work on your english skills, compadre, and come back when you can actually properly USE big words like that. Until then, stick to monosylabic words and grunts, okay?
Quote:
hypocrite
noun a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives
Therefore, I would actually have to be upset about a nerf I am - in reality - happy about.
Thanks for coming out, sweetheart.
Originally by: Draeca Domi isn't ugly, it actually looks quite symphatic. I mean, a crossbreed of a whale and a potato.. Now how cute is that?
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Aquilles
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:37:00 -
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This tread was made on damps not english, if you have nothing to say then dont say anything dumb****.
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 13/12/2007 20:38:10
Originally by: Aquilles This tread was made on damps not english, if you have nothing to say then dont say anything dumb****.
...........................anything dumb****, you told me not to say it what are ya gonna do  ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dismus Changes like this were designed to promote TEAM ACTIVITIES. This is good. It's bringing about the end of the solo PVPer...
this is what ccp fails at. they forget about a big part of the core community of eve. a lot of 2003 veterans play solo these days as the game became more of related to work than actual play. its sad but not everyone can take part in the "min. 5 hours a day" activities of large alliances or wait for 20 ppl to join a gang to start pvping. imo eve is becoming more and more complicated and timeconsuming. a situation where i log in jump into my ship and go on a raid are more than just over. there was such a thing in 2003 and 2004 but today u hardly see the lone pirates or small squads in lowsec or 0.0. blobs and fleets dominate eve and this is what this game really fails at. its becoming a "mass" phenomenon and is loosing its vast and endless feeling to the simple limitations in game design. i hope ccp will seriously boost the possibilities for the soloplayers who dont have the 5 hours time a day which are required for a decent fun factor.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit WHAT?!?!?!?
This is totally the first time I am hearing about this. It's not like it has been on the test server for 4 months and talked about on the forums for months and a dev blog on it and then in the patch notes. Completely zero warning on this CCP. My Lachesis is so broken, how can I solo wtfpwn people and laugh at them now. I used to just copy someone's cool setup and hit my damps, use drones and there's nothing the enemy can do. Now my enemy can possibly fight back, oh noes, I can't possibly play this game without my iwin button, I demand 100B isk and 100M sp training time I invested back please.
LoL ---------------------------------------------
[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dismus It's bringing about the end of the solo PVPer...
Why shouldnt people be allowed to pvp solo if they want? Should we all fly around in 1000man blobs? sounds great right? right?
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:15:00 -
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Wrong. They're still good.
You can reprocess them, and build cap boosters, and even have some spare complex materials for a new broadsword. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP |

Karann
Minmatar Locus Solus
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Aquilles Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 02:04:59 Edited by: Aquilles on 13/12/2007 01:27:58 The new trinity update nerfed damps really bad..... Before update: -48% targeting range -48% resolution Now: -17% targeting range -17% resolution
This makes Arazu and Lachesis even weaker..... They can hardly do damage to break tanks they cant tank, now you take the damps away.
As support you can damp 3 ships at once with lachesis, now 6 damps = 3 damps you can only damp one person =( . I have a friend that put 4 million skillpoints in dampeners now hes using ecm qtf is that!!
CCP tryed to even them out with scripts, completely horrible. THe script incresses the damp to 34% targeting range but it makes reslotion on the damp 0% .. Drones will be an easy target now and all the enemy needs to do is mwd and web and blast away they can since the script makes your resolution useless on the damp. Oh yeah forget rigs for damps they got nerfed too.
Please unnerf or make them better, lachesis and arazu cant tank or do alot dps damps are there best weapon please do something 
there not useless you are.
off topic, but i gotta ask. how long did it take to get your avatar to have the 'i'm havin a dump right now' look?
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Faydelm
Caldari Model Of Aggression
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Posted - 2007.12.14 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Faydelm on 14/12/2007 03:15:57
Originally by: Dismus Edited by: Dismus on 13/12/2007 20:36:54 Edited by: Dismus on 13/12/2007 20:35:11 Edited by: Dismus on 13/12/2007 20:34:18 Correct me if I'm wrong, but to be a hyprocrite, wouldn't I have to actually be *****ing and whining about the nerf?
You really need to work on your english skills, compadre, and come back when you can actually properly USE big words like that. Until then, stick to monosylabic words and grunts, okay?
Quote:
hypocrite
noun a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives
Therefore, I would actually have to be upset about a nerf I am - in reality - happy about.
Thanks for coming out, sweetheart.
Are you seriously ********? I was stating you were hypocritical regarding your solo loss in an arazu. You stated this game isn't for solo pvping but yet "solo'd" according to all your losses.
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