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Stranger Orecri
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.05 13:40:00 -
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second Tolate wrote:Letzlin Schaneger wrote:second Tolate wrote: If you don't have a 80%+ ratio, no one worth flying with, will want to fly with you.
apparently you have a standart too, why shouldn't others?
Next time actually read my post and notice where I didn't say anything at all to the contrary, and actually went on to say they have every right to maintain that policy and that I would if I was in their shoes. just that sentence implies that so learn to make your ideas clearer! doesnt matter how you twist it, you want to fly with good pvpers cuz thats what you want, others have the right to have the same sentiment, isn't it a free world even in eve? if you suck and someone has standart why would they want to fly with you?dont they have the choice for that?? you imply that others should play your way and not have the freedom to play as they want!
Spicing up the forums with a little bit of drama. Nice. |

Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
9
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Posted - 2012.02.05 13:42:00 -
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Letzlin Schaneger wrote:If there is one thing that has been imbued upon me as a new player (Or at least, a player which is well and truly done with Incursions and Market PvP) it's the importance of maintaining a good killboard. If you don't have a 80%+ ratio, no one worth flying with, will want to fly with you.
So clearly a bad killboard is something I wish to go to great lengths to avoid, and given that any mistake made will haunt you for the rest of your EVE career, or even make you completely unhireable if your losses are particularly unfortunate, not to mention my leisure time is valuable and I don't want to waste it with fools. In light of this, why would I want to join a corporation which is, or at least is operated with anything less than:
Activity. Competence. Experience.
And so far my experiences of trying to find a good group for the past month have consisted of 3 main experiences and 1 minor:
Many people take a long time to learn what you have posted right here, the problem you have is putting it into practice.
I started out in a small hi sec corp of good friends, we fought off some wardecs did roams in low sec and 0.0 and then joined a small NPC 0.0 alliance. The kind that just wants to shoot people in the face and basicly had nothing worth infiltrating for from there the world became my oyster. many of the people I met or killed I have found ended up with me on my journey and many are now old good friends. No other game has this, but it takes effort.
You see spying is an issue for large alliances with stuff to lose or indeed their pets, dying in a faction fit carebear horrible fit tengu to a war deccer in jita.. May even be worse
To join a decent large PVP alliance you have to offer more then a security risk, if you can show them you have done your time with solo kills, scouting, FC abilities and you get kill after kill either with your friends, or if you have none of these solo in a well fit decent ship (like a sabre) killing useless pets and bots in 0.0. Then you become sort after.
Having a scrub pilot (some people see 30mil SP pilots with less then 500 kills like this!) in fleet who doesn't know how to get kills fit his ship or stay alive and is likely screw up the whole fleet by jumping early or getting himself killed.. is a liability.
Get your ass in a small decent active 0.0 npc alliance and get some skills down have some fun and the kills will come..
Then after loving playing every day and roaming 3 hours a night...One day it can become epic:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Xorth+Adimus |

Humidor Cigarillo
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Posted - 2012.02.05 19:14:00 -
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Some guy who flys drakes/tengus gets trolled by -A-.
Not sure if serious or just ironic. |

Tomas Ysidro
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2012.02.05 19:20:00 -
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Corps who base their recruitment standards on killboard efficiency aren't worth joining anyways. It's all about the arts and crafts |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1452
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Posted - 2012.02.05 19:29:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Okay, I read the first paragraph......
Look man, the fact that people in this game have some crazy insane kill ratios means one of two things: 1) They've either padded their KB with lame POS kills or 2) they've padded their KB with lame kills like HS docking games where the entirety of Jita local comes to their aid as neutral reppers.
I figure, as long as you're maintaining a positive KB who cares about the rest?
This
Miss Whippy wrote:Thing is, an 80+% kill ratio is a false economy anyway. All it means if you pick fights you can't lose. I'd rather have pilots who throw themselves into battles they can't possibly win, just for the lolz.
Also this.
Anyone boo-hooing or thinking they are amazing because of a high k/d ratio is a risk averse coward and you will learn nothing but how to be bore yourself to death blobbing but still being incompetent at the game.
There's a few truly godly players with quite high kd ratios but they are few and far between. The majority of the time it just means you are risk averse. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii
358
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Posted - 2012.02.05 19:37:00 -
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Frankly my dear, industrial pilots make the best PVPers because they will follow an experienced combat pilot's orders without question. The only problem is telling them what to do exactly.
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |

Honnete Du Decimer
34
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Posted - 2012.02.05 19:41:00 -
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Look good score kill board. Many kill rubbish. You best luck for find people that no care for the kill board.  PMS |

Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2012.02.05 19:46:00 -
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This is douchebag online that promotes corp theft and backstabbing even in its cinematic trailers ...
And you wonder why people dont trust newcomers .... |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.02.05 20:02:00 -
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Midori Tsu wrote:Maybe you're just looking at the wrong corps? It's odd, I've never seemed to have had a problem finding the corp i want to be in.
No, you can't join us, and no we will not take Delve back for you! You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1453
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Posted - 2012.02.05 20:02:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Frankly my dear, industrial pilots make the best PVPers because they will follow an experienced combat pilot's orders without question. The only problem is telling them what to do exactly. Being told when to jump or push F1`-F8 does not teach you how to look after yourself or how to move about a grid... know when you personally need to get out or call for reps appropriately or generally make any one of a thousand personal judgement calls that the FC shouldn't have to be telling you, or any other basic combat awareness. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Humidor Cigarillo
9
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Posted - 2012.02.05 20:12:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:ElQuirko wrote:Frankly my dear, industrial pilots make the best PVPers because they will follow an experienced combat pilot's orders without question. The only problem is telling them what to do exactly. Being told when to jump or push F1`-F8 does not teach you how to look after yourself or how to move about a grid... know when you personally need to get out or call for reps appropriately or generally make any one of a thousand personal judgement calls that the FC shouldn't have to be telling you, or any other basic combat awareness.
I too, love fleet align. |

Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
9
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Posted - 2012.02.05 20:26:00 -
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Humidor Cigarillo wrote:Some guy who flys drakes/tengus gets trolled by -A-.
Not sure if serious or just ironic.
I am glad to brighten your day..
Post was serious regardless, not everyone in EVE or indeed -A- is what you perceive.
Drakes and Tengus are fine in the right hands yes -a- use them as does everyone today.. for certain targets.. I prefer recons / dictors they are always needed and can be fitted in a range of ways..
In reality you are going to want a good range of ships under your belt if you are serious in the long term.
Having the SPs knowledge and skills to fly these and a wide range of other ships properly plus good kills and (importantly) a few good losses to support this is what separates the wheat from the chaff.
Getting there takes time and dedication, good friends help. Good hunting!
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1457
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Posted - 2012.02.05 21:08:00 -
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And expecting new players to spread their training across a wide variety of ships is dumb. At present the Drake is the lowest common denominator allowing effectiveness in a variety of roles. Experience comes in time and is unrealistic to expect a noob to have it in buckets. Willingness is far more important and if you are going to defend high efficiency as important then you are simply bad. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.02.05 21:28:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:BTW, genuinely good PvP corps won't worry overmuch about the pure K:D ratio. Heh, let me tell you about the K:D ratio of newbies in the wild wild west of nullsec.
Since drakes started being a thing again, soon newbies will darken the sun (no more 1v1 duels at the sun anymore) with our newbie folded cardboard missile spammer spaceships! |

Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2012.02.05 21:37:00 -
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@OP: You're certainly not the only player in such a position. Try to get together with other new-ish but ambitious players and go pewing. You'll learn a lot doing that, improve your KB and have some fun while at it.
No alliance/corp is perfect. Even if you manage to join an ~elite~ pvp alliance you'll likely find that it isn't exactly what you were looking for. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1458
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Posted - 2012.02.05 21:44:00 -
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Actually OP, if you are genuinely interested in PVP there are a couple of players that have shown interest in nurturing truly new players in the way of PVP. I don't know if they are interested in getting people into their corps but check out both Garmon and Kil2 and see if they can help you. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2777
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Posted - 2012.02.05 21:48:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Malcanis wrote:BTW, genuinely good PvP corps won't worry overmuch about the pure K:D ratio. Heh, let me tell you about the K:D ratio of newbies in the wild wild west of nullsec. Since drakes started being a thing again, soon newbies will darken the sun (no more 1v1 duels at the sun anymore) with our newbie folded cardboard missile spammer spaceships!
I have always genuinely admired goons indifference to statistical irrelevences like K:D in favour of achieving the end result. In all seriousness, more alliances should emulate you in this respect. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Ningishzida
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2012.02.05 22:06:00 -
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Letzlin Schaneger wrote:
On a side note, if you do fly in a competent corporation that needs more competent, self sufficient Logistics/ECM/Tengu/Drake pilots do let me know.
Come talk to us in our channel: ***CTRL-Q*** |

Stella SGP
The Kimotoro Initiative
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Posted - 2012.02.05 22:22:00 -
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Can-baiting in Jita all day makes you an ELITE Pvper! |

Nor Tzestu
Stillwater Intelligence Services
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Posted - 2012.02.05 22:30:00 -
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Man. Just join rvb. Get some kills..not hard. Fight solo. Even losses are cool solo. Pad you kb for the elite faggotry that has invaded this game then jump when your ready. Yeah and be able to t2 fit a cane. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2915
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Posted - 2012.02.05 22:39:00 -
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Letzlin Schaneger wrote:Humidor Cigarillo wrote: Of course I assume there that you won't be capable of simply flying a tengu into fights all the time. If you can actually afford to do that, you might just be !elitepvp material. Well, I did just play the markets and do incursions for the past 5 months. Let's just say I am comfortable. If it is the case that those sorts of ships aren't frequently used by good small gangs, what should I look at training in to? CausticS0da wrote:What's all this about 20% tax and locked assets?
If you space gets conquered or if your overlords decide they don't like you any more, that's it, you are locked out of your station and can't access your assets. And in order to pay the rent for the system some of the renter corps I have spoken to have operated a 15-20% tax.
OVERLORDS
MEATGRINDERS
sounds like you basically have no idea what you're talking about and read too much eve-o The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

BuckStrider
Hardcore p0wnography Dark Knights of New Eden
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Posted - 2012.02.05 22:47:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Letzlin Schaneger wrote:Humidor Cigarillo wrote: Of course I assume there that you won't be capable of simply flying a tengu into fights all the time. If you can actually afford to do that, you might just be !elitepvp material. Well, I did just play the markets and do incursions for the past 5 months. Let's just say I am comfortable. If it is the case that those sorts of ships aren't frequently used by good small gangs, what should I look at training in to? CausticS0da wrote:What's all this about 20% tax and locked assets?
If you space gets conquered or if your overlords decide they don't like you any more, that's it, you are locked out of your station and can't access your assets. And in order to pay the rent for the system some of the renter corps I have spoken to have operated a 15-20% tax. OVERLORDS MEATGRINDERS sounds like you basically have no idea what you're talking about and read too much eve-o
Guess you'll be asking him soon for a 500m 'security deposit' as well as his full API to teach him pvp |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.05 23:01:00 -
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If you want to join almost any PvP corp my advice is this: Go find their "home" system in 0.0, and start killing them. Be audacious. Go ahead and take a BC against a couple of their HACs. If you kill even one it's a win. Get into an AF and raise terror hitting miner and logistics elements of their alliance. If you are a thorn in their side enough your name will get out there (via their intel channel!). At some point they will probably start talking to you. That's an opportunity to join. When I lived in Fountain my corp knew all the local pirates and gankers... some of them ended up joining, others did not but I like to think we are still friends. Take a step back... not many out there want to hold your hand. ...but everyone could use a crazy pilot who has no fear. Just my 2 isk...
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.02.05 23:02:00 -
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Speaking from personal experience, when I tried to set up a casual corporation I had some stupid **** come along and say he'd let me and my corp fly in their space for 16% tax, why the hell should high sec players play by your rules? Especially when they are stupid and don't benefit anyone but yourselves, not only that they are born from an extreme paranoia where everyone except you is considered an enemy or a noob that's going to get you killed one day.
Sorry folks, I didn't get his name because I was busy in recruitment chat and in a mining op at the same time so you don't get to point and laugh at him unfortunately.
Asking new players to take part in 0.0 space is one thing, but it's amazing people actually seem genuinely confused and mystified as to why they get so much hate when they have to put up with so much bullshit in order to do it.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

SkiD-MaRk
DEAD-ON xHANGOVERx
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Posted - 2012.02.05 23:04:00 -
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With the over abundance of these bad newbie experience posts. Goons, and Test are starting a propaganda mission. And will soon be opening up recruitement to a ton of newbs.
I hope. and if so. well played. <3 |

Honnete Du Decimer
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Posted - 2012.02.05 23:20:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:...sounds like you basically have no idea what you're talking about and read too much eve-o
Prayer be! He speaking! I am believe many other no believe but I am believe! PMS |

Dark Drifter
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.06 00:07:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Letzlin Schaneger wrote:Humidor Cigarillo wrote: Of course I assume there that you won't be capable of simply flying a tengu into fights all the time. If you can actually afford to do that, you might just be !elitepvp material. Well, I did just play the markets and do incursions for the past 5 months. Let's just say I am comfortable. If it is the case that those sorts of ships aren't frequently used by good small gangs, what should I look at training in to? CausticS0da wrote:What's all this about 20% tax and locked assets?
If you space gets conquered or if your overlords decide they don't like you any more, that's it, you are locked out of your station and can't access your assets. And in order to pay the rent for the system some of the renter corps I have spoken to have operated a 15-20% tax. OVERLORDS MEATGRINDERS sounds like you basically have no idea what you're talking about and read too much eve-o
look mittani. to be brutally honest the OP has stated a 100% true fact. "overlords" do decide to kull their "pets", and all the time these "pets" are paying you, the "overlord" to not whimsically drop 300 super-caps on to them just because you are board, or have decided that you want the system back now that they have ground it up for you....
this kinda stuff happens all the time.
i will agree with others in this thread that yes PVP elitism is a bad thing for eve. but when that 0.0 alliance sez yes we are leet pvp all i have to do to guage their legitimacy is check their KBs and lol at the 300 ships it took to kill that one T3 or ratting BS. . .
TO THE OP:
if you are looking to join a corp that is genuine then look for people who don't do the following:
heavily smack in local boast about the faction fitted T3 they killed any SOV block that tells you how you must play the game on that note any person who tells you that you are playing eve wrong should be steered clear of. any corp that tells you that you must participate.
basically what im getting at here is don't join because we tell you that ist a good one to join, find a grupe that suits you as a player not the other way around.
my only suggestions, if you are relay looking to pad your KB, is:
RVB E-UNI
they will see you true and yes you will get the experiance from them that is needed for maintaining your place in eve
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nate555
GODHC INTERSTELLAR FLEET
42
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Posted - 2012.02.06 00:38:00 -
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Well dude what I can tell is go out by yourself in something cheap, cruiser or frig. Try and get some fights . If you lose good, it takes losses to become good. That's how I started out. Now I know lots about ships and their abilitys. Skill training won't get you kills, experiance will. |

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
193
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Posted - 2012.02.06 00:58:00 -
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meh,
finding a good corp takes effort, just keep looking. killboards don't mean anything.
Really, for some people, their in-game incomes support them losing billions of isk per month, without batting an eyelash, and so they're more likely to take risks and have fun, which could mean a poor efficiency rating on the killboards.
alternatively, you may have a person that enjoys being "bait", and could generate lots of personal losses, while bringing many kills to the corp.
the possibilities are endless.
numbers are numbers, and while they have their uses, they are not the be-all end all. |

Covert Kitty
SRS Industries SRS.
155
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Posted - 2012.02.06 01:23:00 -
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Assuming your posting with the character your complaining about, part of your problem is likely not having history at all. No "elite" pvp group will take someone with no kb history whatsoever, and most other groups will be pretty hesitant if they can not learn at least something about a player they are considering taking.
My recommendation is to join a nullsec alliance. You'll get some good experience, and most also do small gang pvp in addition to their sov warfare blob fests. Then down the road you can decide where you want to go from there, but at least its a start. Alternately, go move somewhere you like in low or npc nullsec, pvp, meet the residents, and before long you'll have a chance to join them.
Any decent corp does care about your killboard to a point. Not always the statistics, but rather to ensure that your not fail fitting your ships, or doing anything outrageously stupid.
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