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UGLYUGLY	Posted - 2007.12.17 02:19:00 - [31] Get someone to get me a warp in into the middle of it, warp a BS or capital inside and watch the deathstar fly towards the planet from the bump. Destroying both the Death star and the bloody Ewoks. Perfect plan
Turbanator Gallente All's Fair in Love and War	Posted - 2007.12.17 02:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Boomhaur Originally by: Jongo Fett google fights proves that star wars beats eve http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Star+Wars&word2=Eve+Online Unfortunately it also says Hello Kitty and Neopets will kick our ass any day of the week Try it im not lying I used to play Neopets WAAAAHHHH
Maeltstome Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.17 02:44:00 - [33] Originally by: Draeca I'd swarm it with honortanked discobantams. You sir win eve today ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Lisento Slaven Amarr Lisento and Miscellaneous Elk	Posted - 2007.12.17 03:35:00 - [34] If a rifter is the size of a 747 then how big is a Maelstrom in comparison to a star destroyer? --- Put in space whales!
Ben Booley Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.17 03:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Lisento Slaven If a rifter is the size of a 747 then how big is a Maelstrom in comparison to a star destroyer? about the same size.
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:01:00 - [36] Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 04:08:45 I would bet on EVE ships. They are made to withstand and deal ALOT of damage. All space in ship is used by armor, generators and gun 'feeding' systems. On other hand Star Destroyer: 1) Have troops, 2) Fighters (TIE) 3) Crew. And as for 100 gun, they are extremly close range. They damage ?? I think maybe equal to civilian turrets. So he is actually paper thin. As for TIEs, even if there is 72! of them, they are weaker than small drones. So i say any battleship can take out Star Destroyer. Not even getting his shilds down. Just wipe out TIEs with smart bomb. Scramble him from 20km, and blow to piecies from any BS-sized medium range turrets. The End for Star Wars fans :P And btw, SW don't have something even close to Micro-Warp technology... They are so slooooooow. So i think 1 Amarr ship can wipe out Empire fleet by ramming destroyrs one by one.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:06:00 - [37] Originally by: Shereza I'd point out that a star destroyer can take out planets but any ship with live crew and enough bean burritos can probably take out a planet. We could bombard planets with Tachs --
Hami Sa	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:13:00 - [38] America beats sex. Barely.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:17:00 - [39] Originally by: Ni'ka I would bet on EVE ships. They are made to withstand and deal ALOT of damage. All space in ship is used by armor, generators and gun 'feeding' systems. On other hand Star Destroyer: 1) Have troops, 2) Fighters (TIE) 3) Crew. And as for 100 gun, they are extremly close range. They damage ?? I think maybe equal to civilian turrets. So he is actually paper thin. As for TIEs, even if there is 72! of them, they are weaker than small drones. So i say any battleship can take out Star Destroyer. Not even getting his shilds down. Just wipe out TIEs with smart bomb. Scramble him from 20km, and blow to piecies from any BS-sized medium range turrets. The End for Star Wars fans :P Not quite.. you seem to make alot of assumptions such as Tie Fighters being weaker then small drones and the range on its guns being less then EVE ranges. Hell tie bombers alone would smack the crap out of eve ships. EVE ships have at most 8 seperate weapons hardpoints Star Distroyers have hundreds of Turbolasers as well as ION cannons. Dont forget.. Imperial Turbolasers are designed for Orbital bombardment... making them much more powerful then eve weapons. Eve can't even handle LOS targeting with its missiles.. much less withstanding weapons capible of planetary bombardment Turbolasers were disigned for use against Capital ships.. not rebel snub fighters. Meaning they are at minamum XL sized guns if not stronger to punch through planetary defense fields (which would be a HELL of alot stronger then any eve shield or armor tank) Star Distroyers can warp to any location they choose.. not limited to 100km from the nearest celestial object. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master Which is worse.. the Carebear or the pirate that whines about them?
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:19:00 - [40] Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 04:22:05 Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 04:20:06 We spent alot of time trying to explain that EVE ship are not affected by collisions. So we think that all ship are using warp generatons to actually be not in one dimention with all objects is word. Also this explains large caliber of turrets. Ammunition is equiped with anti-warp charges, that disrupt ships fields on collision, dealing damage.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:20:00 - [41] Originally by: Illyria Ambri Originally by: Ni'ka I would bet on EVE ships. They are made to withstand and deal ALOT of damage. All space in ship is used by armor, generators and gun 'feeding' systems. On other hand Star Destroyer: 1) Have troops, 2) Fighters (TIE) 3) Crew. And as for 100 gun, they are extremly close range. They damage ?? I think maybe equal to civilian turrets. So he is actually paper thin. As for TIEs, even if there is 72! of them, they are weaker than small drones. So i say any battleship can take out Star Destroyer. Not even getting his shilds down. Just wipe out TIEs with smart bomb. Scramble him from 20km, and blow to piecies from any BS-sized medium range turrets. The End for Star Wars fans :P Not quite.. you seem to make alot of assumptions such as Tie Fighters being weaker then small drones and the range on its guns being less then EVE ranges. Hell tie bombers alone would smack the crap out of eve ships. EVE ships have at most 8 seperate weapons hardpoints Star Distroyers have hundreds of Turbolasers as well as ION cannons. Dont forget.. Imperial Turbolasers are designed for Orbital bombardment... making them much more powerful then eve weapons. Eve can't even handle LOS targeting with its missiles.. much less withstanding weapons capible of planetary bombardment Turbolasers were disigned for use against Capital ships.. not rebel snub fighters. Meaning they are at minamum XL sized guns if not stronger to punch through planetary defense fields (which would be a HELL of alot stronger then any eve shield or armor tank) Star Distroyers can warp to any location they choose.. not limited to 100km from the nearest celestial object. Read EVE lore, they, on numerous occasions, describe Amarr geddons bombarding minmatar planets with Tachyons. --
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:26:00 - [42] Originally by: Illyria Ambri Dont forget.. Imperial Turbolasers are designed for Orbital bombardment... Meaning they are at minamum XL sized guns if not stronger to punch through planetary defense fields. Yes, but they still cannot brake planetary shield generators. So they use troops to disable them...
Deathnail	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:27:00 - [43] '84 Volvo 240 DL wagon > all.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:28:00 - [44] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Read EVE lore, they, on numerous occasions, describe Amarr geddons bombarding minmatar planets with Tachyons. Oh, I;ve read them... but I didnt see any mention of those same amarr having to break though minmatar planetary defense shields... maybe I missed that part? Did Amarr bombard a planet from space? Yes according to lore Did that planet have a defense screen? Doubtful.. they are minmatar after all. :P ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master Which is worse.. the Carebear or the pirate that whines about them?
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:29:00 - [45] Originally by: Ni'ka Originally by: Illyria Ambri Dont forget.. Imperial Turbolasers are designed for Orbital bombardment... Meaning they are at minamum XL sized guns if not stronger to punch through planetary defense fields. Yes, but they still cannot brake planetary shield generators. So they use troops to disable them... Yes they can.. they just couldn't break though the generators on Hoth (which is the only planetary bombardment mentioned in the movies) ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master Which is worse.. the Carebear or the pirate that whines about them?
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:31:00 - [46] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 17/12/2007 04:32:25 A scorp sitting a good way off jamming the thing, two disco-phoons to take care of the TIEs, and some gank-fit BS to melt it down. Alternatively, 50 Rifters with all sorts of ewar fitted. Rifters!
Hozac	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:32:00 - [47] The Schwartz.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:34:00 - [48] Edited by: Illyria Ambri on 17/12/2007 04:34:29 Originally by: Cpt Branko A scorp sitting a good way off jamming the thing, two disco-phoons to take care of the TIEs, and some gank-fit BS to melt it down. Assuming 1 targeting mechinism on the Start Distroyer.. If each battery hardpoint has its own targeting computer which is most likely.. then you would need hundreds of jammers to shutdown an Imp Star duce See Star Wars has another thing eve dosen't... LOS targeting. Eve ships need to have something targeted to shoot at it... Star Wars ships just have to aim their guns in that direction and pull the trigger. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master Which is worse.. the Carebear or the pirate that whines about them?
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:45:00 - [49] Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 04:46:41 Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 04:45:39 Originally by: Illyria Ambri Star Wars ships just have to aim their guns in that direction and pull the trigger. Ok, if you don't like big ships, we take few assault frigates. They are too small to get hit by main Destroyers weaponary and can buzz around on 2-3km\s speed, and bomb destroyer while having armor \ shields that can withstand most of TIEs damage.
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:48:00 - [50] I have a theory. 1 Tempest with 1400mm could stop a Star Destroyer, or Super Star destroyer. Load round the size of small car, fire into bridge of Star Destroyer. You will notice that the shields in Star Wars pretty much fail at stopping solid objects, and are made to deflect/absorb blaster fire (Torpedoes and Missiles and Ships go right through them). So after I have delivered a massive nuclear weapon into its bridge, it will start that sweet chain reaction seen in the movies, since they have no damage control nor redundant systems. All this from beyond its own engagement range. ex-Occassus Republica <3
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 04:59:00 - [51] Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 05:11:56 Yes, and EVE turret-based weapon are made to deal instant damage. Even on a range of 100-200-300km. This is why we neet turret tracking. For warp-tonnel to be pointed on exact damage point. Turbo-lasers, are more like blasters, firing super-heated projectile, not like real lasers, (60 ion cannons on Destroyer for close range) and designed for capital-ships / planetary bombardments, meaning they won't be able to track moving ship on long range. And they don't have tracking computers. They track manually. Like turrets on Millenium Falcon. And as it was shown in Part 3, are mostly stationary, meaning that they do not track target at all. Just shot things in front of it. Turret based weapons are used to shoot smaller ships, so they are alot weaker. Turret based turbo-lasers are only used on Death Star and Imperial Execuror Class. So, +1 for EVE :P
Galcray Gallente Sacred Templars DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:01:00 - [52] pfftt... there tech is from a long time ago in a galaxy far far away...our tech is like, our time, plus like 100000 years. we WINZ _____________ i lolz in ur facez
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:11:00 - [53] Originally by: Mortuus I have a theory. 1 Tempest with 1400mm could stop a Star Destroyer, or Super Star destroyer. Load round the size of small car, fire into bridge of Star Destroyer. You will notice that the shields in Star Wars pretty much fail at stopping solid objects, and are made to deflect/absorb blaster fire (Torpedoes and Missiles and Ships go right through them). Star Wars uses a combination of Particle and Ray shielding... 1 for energy weapons and 1 for physical weapons.. theory go buhbye. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master Which is worse.. the Carebear or the pirate that whines about them?
Fity Pence	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:16:00 - [54] Well I see one glaring problem... dun dun dun dun da dun dun da dun.... THE FORCE - It's the ultimate EW. How are we supposed to counter it? Do we team up with the rebels, I guess they are kind of like pirates? sig under construction.
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:16:00 - [55] Originally by: Illyria Ambri Star Wars uses a combination of Particle and Ray shielding... 1 for energy weapons and 1 for physical weapons.. And we have warp-tunnel witch accelerate projectile to the speed none SW shield can stop ... 1400 caliber slug just go through shields... And i haven't seen theyre particle shields stoping moving fighters... they just collide with ship...
MyOwnSling Gallente RONA Corporation RONA Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:28:00 - [56] I would use templars, many many templars (wtf is a templar) ------------- Stop whining. Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
Ereman Sarat	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:36:00 - [57] Wipe them out... All of them...
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:37:00 - [58] Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 05:37:12 Originally by: Fity Pence Well I see one glaring problem... dun dun dun dun da dun dun da dun.... THE FORCE - It's the ultimate EW. How are we supposed to counter it? Force?? What is Force comparing to the powers that Capsuleer pilot have then they attached to the ship... And yes, we ARE our ships... we feel and see through sensors of our ships. No Forgce can compare to this... Too small on energy scale...
Kldraina	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:42:00 - [59] I am doubtful that a Star Destroyer would do more damage than a Blasterthron. If it doesn't do more damage than a Blasterthron, I can tank it.
Ni'ka Alfa Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:50:00 - [60] Edited by: Ni''ka on 17/12/2007 05:58:34 Got this info: The Imperial I-class Star Destroyer possessed a main battery of twelve heavy turbolasers and four heavy ion cannons, arranged in eight dual mounts flanking the ship's tower structure. Numerous Expanded Universe sources cite the armament of the Imperial II as consisting of 50 turbolasers, heavy turbolasers or turbolaser batteries, and ion cannons. So we in a position where is no exact info about ships :) Also non-turret mount of "lasers" on Star Destroyer gives him a disavantage, meaning that only part of them can fire at exact direction. Dual-Turret mout on EVE ship gives 360 degree firepower coverage. Actually we have max 16 turret, but taking turret placement on ships hull, only half of them can fire to 1 point. So we have "8" turrets.

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