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Kingzolo The Bastards The Bastards. 0	Posted - 2012.02.05 19:30:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_c2Q2W09U Too OP really.
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords 26	Posted - 2012.02.05 19:46:00 - [2] - Quote Just watched the first fight so far: I can (and have) done that and more in a drake. The main problem there are blaster boats sucking, not the tengu being OP. EDIT: And later on, his opponents in drakes don't break 200m/s! I see lots of fail pilots he fights against, and no "OMG TENGU OP"
Mors Prima State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.02.05 20:10:00 - [3] - Quote Kingzolo wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_c2Q2W09U Too OP really. That guy is my hero!
mxzf Shovel Bros 473	Posted - 2012.02.05 20:48:00 - [4] - Quote Why do you feel the need to necro a whole bunch of thread and make your own to continually post the same thing?
Mutnin SQUIDS. 87	Posted - 2012.02.05 21:01:00 - [5] - Quote chatgris wrote: Just watched the first fight so far: I can (and have) done that and more in a drake. The main problem there are blaster boats sucking, not the tengu being OP. EDIT: And later on, his opponents in drakes don't break 200m/s! I see lots of fail pilots he fights against, and no "OMG TENGU OP" It was good piloting on his/their parts but no you would never do those fights in a single Drake nor with 2 Drakes. You simply can't weave in and out of scam range with a MWD Drake like you can with the 100MN AB/ Loki boosted Tengu with 50KM point. While many of those he fought were not very smart, he also did a good job of dictating range and shooting the right targets when they needed to be shot. Not to mention even Nano Drakes don't hit that speed nor can they over heat as long as a Tengu can. But of course Nerf Drakes. err I mean Tengus.. or was it Caracals.. I forget.
Justin Cody T.A.L.O.N. Company Psychotic Tendencies. 19	Posted - 2012.02.05 21:48:00 - [6] - Quote Kingzolo wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_c2Q2W09U Too OP really. Ok I've watched most of that video and I can tell you many reasons that in this case it isn't OP. 1) he is using what appears to be either a friend who is giving command bonuses to point range and speed, deadspace equipment, or a combination thereof. A t2 point on a tengu does not normally give you 42km or more point range or beyond 20KM web range. 2) he is for the most part not taking sentry gun fire, rather engaging those who are SoS or silly enough to engage a 100mn AB fit tengu. 3) he is managing his cap very well and even a single curse will not keep him neuted out completely if he manages his injections well enough. 4) despite hi getting very close to people many times...no one hits him with a webbifier, so either he scanned em ahead of time (most likely) or it is staged. I supposed he could also be targeting morons. 5) good video of epic solo pvp
Dorian Tormak Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2012.02.05 23:07:00 - [7] - Quote Leave the Tengu and Drake alone IMO. HAI GUISE
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 307	Posted - 2012.02.05 23:14:00 - [8] - Quote Or just buff the other T3s. That way everyone can be happy.
Aestivalis Saidrian SplitPush Mercantiles 25	Posted - 2012.02.06 00:33:00 - [9] - Quote That works. Then we can power the EVE servers on Rage and Tears about how Tengus are no longer god.
Barbie D0ll Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2012.02.06 04:26:00 - [10] - Quote Aestivalis Saidrian wrote: That works. Then we can power the EVE servers on Rage and Tears about how Tengus are no longer god.
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 287	Posted - 2012.02.06 05:05:00 - [11] - Quote Mutnin wrote: It was good piloting on his/their parts but no you would never do those fights in a single Drake nor with 2 Drakes. You simply can't weave in and out of scam range with a MWD Drake like you can with the 100MN AB/ Loki boosted Tengu with 50KM point. The solution to that "problem" is to not fly a nanodrake like you would a 100MN AB Tengu. You can actually dictate range a lot better in a nanodrake, thanks to better agility.
Kietay Ayari En Garde 325	Posted - 2012.02.06 06:49:00 - [12] - Quote I liked that video :3 Ferox #1
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 435	Posted - 2012.02.06 06:53:00 - [13] - Quote They should nerf Tengu and buff Ferox amirite? And nanodrakes are only for derps who don't listen to FC and screw up in their Muninns ;(
Kietay Ayari En Garde 325	Posted - 2012.02.06 07:01:00 - [14] - Quote Nooo Tengu #1 now, I just cant reach the button to change my signature anymore. Ferox #1
XIRUSPHERE In Bacon We Trust 184	Posted - 2012.02.06 07:27:00 - [15] - Quote 3b isk tengu with t3 command bonus alt, mostly using HG crystals but at one point id have to say HG slaves as he hits around 4.7k going after a cynabal. Poor heat management, poor module control, and he loses plenty of them in lulzy fashions. It's not OP, it's just min maxing while pissing isk at the wind. The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times. One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 287	Posted - 2012.02.06 07:30:00 - [16] - Quote XIRUSPHERE wrote: id have to say HG slaves as he hits around 4.7k going after a cynabal. snakes
XIRUSPHERE In Bacon We Trust 184	Posted - 2012.02.06 07:57:00 - [17] - Quote Mfume Apocal wrote: XIRUSPHERE wrote: id have to say HG slaves as he hits around 4.7k going after a cynabal. snakes yeah my derp is strong tonight, I read it as snakes initially. The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times. One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Kietay Ayari En Garde 325	Posted - 2012.02.06 09:01:00 - [18] - Quote One day I will do this. One day. Maybe I will practice with his T2 fit. Ferox #1
Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front 48	Posted - 2012.02.06 09:39:00 - [19] - Quote To be fair, to many times have we tried to catch a 100mn Tengu, and even with two huginns ie 4 webs, they can kill the huginns faster than 10 man fleet in BCs can bring the tengu down. Once the huginns are down or warpped off he will just burn at range again. I use a 100mn loki, but i think that there need to be a nerf so you cant fit a battleship afterburner to a T3 overall. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Gempei Siberian Khatru. Shadow Operations. 30	Posted - 2012.02.06 09:57:00 - [20] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Or just buff the other T3s. this, others T3s need some love
Apollo Eros Percussive Diplomacy 12	Posted - 2012.02.06 10:07:00 - [21] - Quote Justin Cody wrote: Kingzolo wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_c2Q2W09U Too OP really. Ok I've watched most of that video and I can tell you many reasons that in this case it isn't OP. 1) he is using what appears to be either a friend who is giving command bonuses to point range and speed, deadspace equipment, or a combination thereof. A t2 point on a tengu does not normally give you 42km or more point range or beyond 20KM web range. 2) he is for the most part not taking sentry gun fire, rather engaging those who are SoS or silly enough to engage a 100mn AB fit tengu. 3) he is managing his cap very well and even a single curse will not keep him neuted out completely if he manages his injections well enough. 4) despite hi getting very close to people many times...no one hits him with a webbifier, so either he scanned em ahead of time (most likely) or it is staged. I supposed he could also be targeting morons. 5) good video of epic solo pvp He does use a booster.
Roime UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS 158	Posted - 2012.02.06 10:10:00 - [22] - Quote Just nerf the missile damage very slightly at those extreme ranges and it will be fine.
Dztrgovac 25	Posted - 2012.02.06 11:02:00 - [23] - Quote So, he is using: gist 100mn AB (didn't see which type) standard blue pill, quafe zero, true sansha web, likely faction point, nearly max skilled T3 booster alt etc... Now before you say that investing 3Bn and having two accounts should award you with unstoppable solopwnmobile (because having booster alt is SOLO)... please say could any other ship combination for same ammounnt if isk wreak as much havoc. Two facption pimped pirate BSes, any non Tengu T3 with a T3 booster, any other ship with a T3 booster. 100mn T3s return the "glorious" days of full scale nano faggotry where everyone was "I invested 3 bil in this, I deserve to pwn everything". Oh and this is nice proof about "validity" of claims that Caldari are bad for PVP. Lets see, Tengu is best for all kinds of PVE, and 100Mn AB one is most useful for fleet flights (some people have way too much isk) and solopwn.
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 287	Posted - 2012.02.06 11:28:00 - [24] - Quote Dztrgovac wrote: Lets see, Tengu is best for all kinds of PVE, and 100Mn AB one is most useful for fleet flights (some people have way too much isk) and solopwn. Tengu isn't particularly good for Incursions. And 100MN ABs are incredibly for fleets, the Tengu fleets you see have 10MN ABs.
Kingzolo The Bastards The Bastards. 0	Posted - 2012.02.06 12:24:00 - [25] - Quote I dont think they nerf shuold break the tengu to much, i would rarther that there where some greater penalties to the 100MN fit. Like even worse agility and acceleration.
L0rdF1end STA'IN The Devil's Warrior Alliance 13	Posted - 2012.02.06 13:53:00 - [26] - Quote Targets in the video look dumb. He actually comes within 10km of the targets on a few rare occassions and should of been webbed and scrammed. But this is what it's like in Eve, sometimes you fight dumb opponents, then the next fight you get ganked by about 10 people. You shouldn't take a ship being OP just from a youtube video of someones best fights. Oh, and here's his 2.4 bil Tengu fit. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14997972
Dztrgovac 25	Posted - 2012.02.06 15:50:00 - [27] - Quote When he's going on 3kms with insane inertia that oversized AB gives him he will take forever to slow down with any number of webs on him; certainly long enough to get out of web range.
Mutnin SQUIDS. 91	Posted - 2012.02.06 17:10:00 - [28] - Quote If you guys notice, he was webbed many times but he was smart enough to take out the ships webbing him. Still it was a lot of fail from his targets which allows a good pilot to do crazy things in a Pmped out ship. Also if you notice at end of video they used T2 fit Tengus and almost died horribly at the start of the fight where they then managed to pull out due to the targets not finishing the job when having the opportunity. Despite this... CCP should nerf Tengus, Drakes & Caracal.. because PVE ships shouldn't be able to PVP..
Kingzolo The Bastards The Bastards. 0	Posted - 2012.02.06 17:41:00 - [29] - Quote Also... This Tengu is actually engaging multiple targets 5+ in more occasions.. Try to imangine if there was a fleet of 4-5 tengus - Would be massacre. Again, they should nerf that 100mn somehow, when put on cruisers/BC, becayse this is madness. 5k m/s and suerb accel/agility is just dumb. Only counter shuold be the Bhallgorn with min. complex webs, becuase all other web ships will just die secs after webbing. 100mn on cruiser class ships: -100% agility penalty -100% Acceleration penalty. (maybe even more) With theese penaties rapiers and others with webs might have a chance of slowing it enough for others to catch up.
Mutnin SQUIDS. 91	Posted - 2012.02.06 17:46:00 - [30] - Quote Kingzolo wrote: Also... This Tengu is actually engaging multiple targets 5+ in more occasions.. Try to imangine if there was a fleet of 4-5 tengus - Would be massacre. Again, they should nerf that 100mn somehow, when put on cruisers/BC, becayse this is madness. 5k m/s and suerb accel/agility is just dumb. Only counter shuold be the Bhallgorn with min. complex webs, becuase all other web ships will just die secs after webbing. 100mn on cruiser class ships: -100% agility penalty -100% Acceleration penalty. (maybe even more) With theese penaties rapiers and others with webs might have a chance of slowing it enough for others to catch up. You are being tarded.. at no point did he ever even get close to 5km/s Best was just slightly over 3.5km/s but when going that fast the ship turns like a flying Brick.

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