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Error404	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:17:00 - [1] I pay to be able to play for what it says when you sub 30 days of time and i'd find it quite disturbing if CCP didn't give us all this downtime back. All other mmorpgs are able to put these tiny patches on their servers and have them up within the hour of downtime so why can't EVE? What i also hate is how you have to go to Jita alot of the time as yet if you enter Jita then you wont be able to play again that night lol. I can't believe Jita hasn't been fixed and i don't see how hard it is to not have a center of the galaxy, why not just delete Jita lol........... It's like whenever i want to play this game it seems to always be on downtime and then frigging they're like server will be up at this time.... actually no we changed our minds it'll be a hour later..... actually it'll be a hour later etc etc. I'm sick and tired of the unstable overpopulated server and theres soooo much lag all the time. I don't understand why you can't just open 3 or 4 servers because i'd much prefer it's not like you talk to all 40k people that are playing each night anyways.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:18:00 - [2] Originally by: Error404 I pay to be able to play for what it says when you sub 30 days of time No you don't. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:18:00 - [3] No, you don't get the downtime back. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Karina Bellac	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:18:00 - [4] Yes you do get a refund on the lost time due to the downtime. However, the patch costs the same amount.
Angelus Blackheart Black Avatar	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:19:00 - [5] WTB the OP a clue 10m
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:19:00 - [6] Edited by: Korran Minare on 18/12/2007 16:20:17 we get it back in the fact that our expantions are FREE, and besides downtime doesnt really affect me since its happening when im either sleeping or just as im waking up and getting ready for work Oh and btw you dont have to go to Jita, ive been playing for about 6 months or so now and have never been to Jita and most likely never will go to Jita Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway????
Magahd	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:19:00 - [7] No and No! You're SOL.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:19:00 - [8] Have you ever done anything other than whine? Because I have yet to see anything else from you. Are you really this miserable of a person? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Wizzkidy Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:20:00 - [9] EVE's cluster is much much much larger then all other mmorpg's it runs a single cluster on 100's of machines. This is why patch deployments take longer as the game it unique to any other mmorpg. You cannot compare other games to EVE for patches generally because the cluster is just so large
Error404	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:20:00 - [10] You don't come to a forum cause your enjoying playing cause you'd actually be in game.

Gone'Postal Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:20:00 - [11] Always wanted to say this!.. Your stuff... Can I ? Sig removed, inappropriate content. Cortes Yet it's allowed to be posted on teh forums -Postal
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:21:00 - [12] Stop replying to the trolls guys ________
DSidius Amarr Joint Operations	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:21:00 - [13] I think.... you're an e-tard who hasn o idea what he's talking about. All the other MMORPGs are -not- able to do that, every single one has extra down time. EVE generally has a single hour long down time every day (which in my opinion is the best way to do it) as opposed to others who do it for an exasperating long period of time on one day. Gah, I can barely stand to read what you wrote, you're dumb. plain and simple. An Immortal Brother of Metal HAIL Manowar!
darklegionca Caldari OrdoDraconis Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:21:00 - [14] no you dont if you dont like it go back to wow you damned emo kid ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend.
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Gone'Postal Always wanted to say this!.. Your stuff... Can I ? No no no! Its said as.."Your Stuff...Give!"
Dedan Fusion Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:23:00 - [16] Cry mich ein river.. ------------------------------------------ I want a Pink Ishtar!
Eval B'Stard Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:24:00 - [17] You get back exactly what you are entitled to ...... Absolutely NOTHING !!! ------------------------------------------- When we gonna see the 40km and 80km tractor beams ?
Lucky 8 Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:24:00 - [18] Just chillax and play PoTBS like the rest of us. -- Originally by: Nicho Void This thread is like a chum slick for forum alt trolls.
Lacranora Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:24:00 - [19] Your kidding right? I mean really.... runs off I must remember not to feed the trolls Originally by: Mimiru i store my money in a pouch i've sewn into my own skin. Its the only way to be sure. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Almethea Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:25:00 - [20] 1) Contract me your stuff 2) Check this Link. 3) "Next troll please" $Eve_Population = $Eve_Population - 1; One Isk Baby

Zinras	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:25:00 - [21] Jita AND downtime in one post? I am impressed. Now, stuff please
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:26:00 - [22] ________
Frances Ducoir Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Dedan Fusion Cry mich ein river.. Cry mir einen river... would be right grammar in german snip Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch
Almethea Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:27:00 - [24] Originally by: Zinras Jita AND downtime in one post? I am impressed. Now, stuff please LOL LOL LOL One Isk Baby
Edison Frisk Minmatar Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:27:00 - [25] its all BoB's fault! damn them all send an email to ccp if you are so cut up about it get a life
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Hey a kitten! ________
Magahd	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:29:00 - [27] Not closed yet?
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:30:00 - [28] Tt's so badly obvious that your a troll you might aswell just give up and stop being an idiot. -------- The Derek Quote Pyramid
Aronis Contar Caldari Independent Manufacturers	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:36:00 - [29] Originally by: Error404 All other mmorpgs are able to put these tiny patches on their servers and have them up within the hour of downtime so why can't EVE? AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHA Have you ever played any other MMO? No? Yeah, thought so. No, nethack doesn't count. Quote: What i also hate is how you have to go to Jita alot of the time as yet if you enter Jita then you wont be able to play again that night lol. I can't believe Jita hasn't been fixed and i don't see how hard it is to not have a center of the galaxy, why not just delete Jita lol........... I've been playing this game since May 2003, and I have NEVER EVER been in Jita. NEVER. Quote: I'm sick and tired of the unstable overpopulated server and theres soooo much lag all the time. I don't understand why you can't just open 3 or 4 servers because i'd much prefer it's not like you talk to all 40k people that are playing each night anyways. Move out of your mom's basement, and get cable. Don't clog it with downloading ****. Presto, no lag. Ciao, Aronis!
Tarasus	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:43:00 - [30] Originally by: Aronis Contar Quote: I'm sick and tired of the unstable overpopulated server and theres soooo much lag all the time. I don't understand why you can't just open 3 or 4 servers because i'd much prefer it's not like you talk to all 40k people that are playing each night anyways. Move out of your mom's basement, and get cable. Don't clog it with downloading ****. Presto, no lag. Ciao, Aronis! Wow, you must have an nberconnection cause i got a 100/10 Mbit connection running with an X2 6000+, 4gb ram and x1950pro and even i experience some heavy lag form time to time... So, you got like an 2tb connection running on a IBM Bluegene with like 64gb ram and quad nvidia 8800 cards? Oh, yeah, now i know, you just don't know what you are talking about even though you've played since 2003... But maybe that's because your hiding faaaaar out in a 0.0 system where your all alone. And no, i'm not talking about Jita!

Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:44:00 - [31] Haha... Didn't take long for this to get said. Cry more addict. Right, back to spending the extra time working out. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Aronis Contar Caldari Independent Manufacturers	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:44:00 - [32] Nope, no uber connection. 20 MBit cable, that's all. And no, I'm not hiding out in some 0.0 system ( I have to show this to my corpmates, they'll laugh their asses off). Ciao, Aronis!
Brigitte S.A.S Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:47:00 - [33] they used 2 in the begining...not now .... i just hope they have used " the test server" before releasing this patch so i dont have to spend a week sorting out me compo again...................sigh
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Error404 I pay to be able to play for what it says when you sub 30 days of time No you don't. As Nyphur say, you dont. The reason for it is simply you pay to get access to the game, for a period of time. You also accept that there can be certain periods of offline times, where you cant play due to a.) server errors b.) server upgrades c.)maintainance d.) etc. All this you accept in the EULA. If you dont accept the EULA, all you have to do is hit deny. It means you cant play the game but hey, that is your choice! CCP gives you the offer, and its up to you to accept is or deny it. Originally by: Abrazzar OP needs to delete his boot.ini.
Tarasus	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:52:00 - [35] Originally by: Brigitte they used 2 in the begining...not now .... i just hope they have used " the test server" before releasing this patch so i dont have to spend a week sorting out me compo again...................sigh yeah, there's a couple of things you should be aware of when using your computer these days. 1) watch out for thieves, don't give your cc number to anyone you don't trust 2) terrorist might hi-jack your computer and use it for an virusattack against USA 3) CCP might **-up your computer, making you lose all your documents etc etc... I just can't belive how a company that made a game like EVE can manage to **-up their patch(es?) and render a couple of thousand computers useless (for noobs that can't fix the problem themself). Gotta be some sort of MMORPG record :D
Kobushi	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:55:00 - [36] I will personally refund you the extended part of DT so we have 0.02$/hour x 5 hours=10 cents. Send me 10 sents plus 5$ S&H and you will have your refund. Just keep in mind the stamp used will have more value then probably a full day of DT so take a breathe and enjoy something else while it's going on...
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:12:00 - [37] Originally by: Kobushi I will personally refund you the extended part of DT so we have 0.02$/hour x 5 hours=10 cents. Send me 10 sents plus 5$ S&H and you will have your refund. Just keep in mind the stamp used will have more value then probably a full day of DT so take a breathe and enjoy something else while it's going on... It's easier to just say "If I send you the 10 cents the DT is worth will you shut up?!" -----sig-starts-here------ Witty stuff goes here
RoadKill101 Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:15:00 - [38] Read the contract you press the tick box under (Yes its a contract) im pretty sure they label downtimes in there somewhere ---------------------------------- llama's rule!
Shar'Tuk TheHated	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:28:00 - [39] Your name says it all, you sir fail. That will be all. DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale! THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!
Lothros Andastar Gallente Divine Assembly of Forgotten Travelers Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:28:00 - [40] IBTL FTW!

Lothros Andastar Gallente Divine Assembly of Forgotten Travelers Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Tarasus Originally by: Brigitte they used 2 in the begining...not now .... i just hope they have used " the test server" before releasing this patch so i dont have to spend a week sorting out me compo again...................sigh yeah, there's a couple of things you should be aware of when using your computer these days. 1) watch out for thieves, don't give your cc number to anyone you don't trust 2) terrorist might hi-jack your computer and use it for an virusattack against USA 3) CCP might **-up your computer, making you lose all your documents etc etc... I just can't belive how a company that made a game like EVE can manage to **-up their patch(es?) and render a couple of thousand computers useless (for noobs that can't fix the problem themself). Gotta be some sort of MMORPG record :D CCP didnt delete ANY of your so called documents. you did by being an idiot and formatting your disk
d1v1n1ty	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:47:00 - [42] Error404...You're always first to complain about everything in EVE. Geez, how's life treating you?
Pitt Bull Caldari Naval Reserve	Posted - 2007.12.18 18:05:00 - [43] I'm 100% with the OP. He's obviously not trolling. Look at the replies, I think its obvious who the trolls are. You see them saying the same thing in every thread on this forum. They claim that this game is great, yet they are constantly here on the forum rather than actually playing it. I agree, if the game was so damn great, people wouldn't be here everyday letting you know they quit because they are ******* sick of the development team.
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.12.18 18:10:00 - [44] In....
Vodka Neat Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.12.18 18:14:00 - [45] Originally by: Karina Bellac Yes you do get a refund on the lost time due to the downtime. However, the patch costs the same amount. LOL, I was going to post that pretty much word for word good job. Why are you still reading? Its over. Continue to the next post.
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.12.18 18:45:00 - [46] Edited by: Stefx on 18/12/2007 18:45:56 You clicked "accept" when you read the EULA, which states: Originally by: Eve_EULA NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. ----------- MOP recruiting Industrialists/miners/traders/missioners/etc
Pitt Bull Caldari Naval Reserve	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:00:00 - [47] Edited by: Pitt Bull on 18/12/2007 19:00:32 Originally by: Stefx Originally by: Customer_EULA NO WARRANTIES The User, his Wallet, Customers and all Customer Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the Wallet and playing the Customer. We (the customers) disclaim all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Customer. The Users do not warrant that the operation of the Wallet or your access to the Wallet, or that your use of the User, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the Wallet or User will be compatible with your hardware and software. While Customers attempt to have the Wallet available at most times, customers do not guarantee that the Wallet will always be available, or that the Wallet will not become unavailable during Customer play. The Wallet may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the Wallet, for the implementation of new games to play, for emergency situations and due to lag or constant failures. I fixed it.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:01:00 - [48] No. But you do get free content upgrades. (well, free as in 'only costs the downtime to deploy them') -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Tarasus Wow, you must have an nberconnection cause i got a 100/10 Mbit connection running with an X2 6000+, 4gb ram and x1950pro and even i experience some heavy lag form time to time... So, you got like an 2tb connection running on a IBM Bluegene with like 64gb ram and quad nvidia 8800 cards? Lag has nothing to do with connection speed, I have 20M connection and I get it from time to time(and I have an uber PC) Lag happens ,mostly , because a server Node gets overworked p.s. hey OP, stop moaning play the game Q6600,8800 Ultra SLI, Vista 32, 4Gig RAM , G15 , TripleHead2Go, Raptor X
Zeminy Minmatar The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:11:00 - [50] /me looks around .... What are we talking about? YOUR STUFF TO ME GIVE!! NOW!! ~ * ~ ~ * ~

manasi Caldari Valhalla Navy Technical Institute	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:12:00 - [51] Originally by: Error404 I pay to be able to play for what it says when you sub 30 days of time and i'd find it quite disturbing if CCP didn't give us all this downtime back. All other mmorpgs are able to put these tiny patches on their servers and have them up within the hour of downtime so why can't EVE? What i also hate is how you have to go to Jita alot of the time as yet if you enter Jita then you wont be able to play again that night lol. I can't believe Jita hasn't been fixed and i don't see how hard it is to not have a center of the galaxy, why not just delete Jita lol........... It's like whenever i want to play this game it seems to always be on downtime and then frigging they're like server will be up at this time.... actually no we changed our minds it'll be a hour later..... actually it'll be a hour later etc etc. I'm sick and tired of the unstable overpopulated server and theres soooo much lag all the time. I don't understand why you can't just open 3 or 4 servers because i'd much prefer it's not like you talk to all 40k people that are playing each night anyways. Name one MMO that lets you download the client for Free? Name one that gives you NEW additions to the game for Free? Now name on that works across multiple platforms ...the trade off is limited downtime. Cost benefit analysis = HUGE upside for very limited downside... While I empathize wit your wanting to play, they are doing their best to maintain the game and limit the downtime AND limit the expense to the playerbase. As for Jita what do you want? THEY know the problem is there...they will find a way to fix it. As for Unstable...WTF...when has the server crashed? client instability does not necessarily mean problems with the server. The idea behind EVE is one universe not slices of it get over your WoW server model...and think differently. EvE is different and with differences come challeges..take a deep breathe and before you know it you'll be able to play.
Pitt Bull Caldari Naval Reserve	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:16:00 - [52] Originally by: manasi The idea behind EVE is one universe not slices of it get over your WoW server model...and think differently. EvE is different and with differences come challeges..take a deep breathe and before you know it you'll be able to play. With POS's borked, the markets broken, boot.ini missing, etc. What do you do for fun now? Just fly around and pretend you're Jean Luc Picard?
manasi Caldari Valhalla Navy Technical Institute	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:17:00 - [53] Originally by: Tarasus Originally by: Brigitte t I just can't belive how a company that made a game like EVE can manage to ****-up their patch(es?) and render a couple of thousand computers useless (for noobs that can't fix the problem themself). Gotta be some sort of MMORPG record :D You might want to do more digging..215 PC's is not thousands..read the blog by the games designer where he mentioned Dev Blog on the boot.ini issue how many people have gotten help, how they contacted CCP, what CCP was doing to help them...I knwo of no other MMO that would ever offer to help their customer base as CCP has done. They are not angels...they are human but damn man get a grip.

ISD Valorem Amarr ISD STAR	Posted - 2007.12.18 19:17:00 - [54] Please refrain from threads deliberately designed to cause flames and trolling. Locked. forum rules \| CAOD Rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website



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