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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: KillMeAndSeeIfICare on 19/12/2007 01:32:43 Ok, here it is:
I got some public contract, the public contract had 500k ISK collateral and 100 mil payout. It's a courier contract, it's in low sec, it's 1 jump. Essentially it's 1 jump from 0.4 to 0.5 - volume is 50km3, so it needs a freighter. Container is full of...shuttles :)
So what gives? Is thrill of blowing up a freighter worth 100 mil ISK to someone, or is there some other catch that escapes my sight?
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:29:00 -
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Either someone got collateral and payout mixed up or there's something I'm missing as well . _____________________________________________
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The Djego
Minmatar FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP. Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:31:00 -
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Simply get a Scout or a Escort of some BS. Frighters alone in Low Sec are a bad Idee. Use your Corp or some frinds. I donŠt think it is Scam by ony using 500k as Colateral. Nerf Tank, boost Gank! XD
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: KillMeAndSeeIfICare on 19/12/2007 01:32:01 I talked to the guy - either he did as you say and keeps his cool not wanting to admit the mistake, or there is something else behind this... Can't figure this out heh...
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:32:00 -
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Ofc I'll keep all the safety precautions and take some escort - but why the hell would someone pay 100 mil ISK to move damn shuttles? :D
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:35:00 -
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Cant you just keep the package for yourself ? 500k is nothing to loose. If the payout is 100 mil, it might be some nice faction module ;) ___
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Xaroth Brook
Minmatar BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:35:00 -
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so he can wait for you the moment you undock with em... and wtfpwn your freighter
It was like a baby, it landed on my lap and was helpless and totally defenseless. Then I shot it and bragged about it on a killboard.
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The Djego
Minmatar FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP. Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 19/12/2007 01:37:43
Some people would pay to move a Faction BS from Low to High savely. But the Colaterall is way to low for that task and risk. Going in short before DT and leaving short after DT with a Scout will be mostly the best choice to get that 100 M without a real risk. Nerf Tank, boost Gank! XD
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:43:00 -
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Guys, stop talking about faction modules and worth-something stuff - Like I said, these are damn shuttles :)
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omiNATION
Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:43:00 -
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Tell me how this works out!
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xJohnnyDx
The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: xJohnnyDx on 19/12/2007 01:45:03 He already said it's full of shuttles, so assuming he was telling the truth, it really sounds like someone just wanting to wave their e-peen over a freighter kill.
50k m3 would contain 100 shuttles, valued at, 7-9k or so, so a 100 mil reward is obviously not something the contract issuer is planning on paying.
Edit - damn, way to clarify that while I was writing my post.
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:47:00 -
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It's truth, I have the contract accepted. Is there some trick that would lead to me not getting the 100 mil? (Blowing up the freighter excluded)
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xJohnnyDx
The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:50:00 -
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None that I can personally think of. Courier contracts are pretty straight forward. As far as I know, if you get the package to the station, you can complete the contract and get your reward.
It really doesn't make a whole lot of sense at all, except the guy that said maybe the contract issuer mixed up the collateral and reward. Anyway, take advantage of it, get the package in there and get your 100 mil, then send him a friendly thank you message :)
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Fad3dlight
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:52:00 -
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Im rather new to this. But do you need to carry all the stuff in 1 ship? Is it a sealed container or something? IF not just do 2 runs with a Iteron V
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:56:00 -
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That was my question also - this is my first contract - I can't break the package down, right?
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xJohnnyDx
The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.19 01:57:00 -
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Nope, unfortunately not.
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:06:00 -
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Ok, so what we got so far?
- Stupid mistake (collateral/payout mixed up) - 100 mil for the fireworks
Any other ideas? Geez, my head's gonna explode because of this :)
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Bob Stuart
Federation Fleet Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:15:00 -
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Doesn't weird stuff happen if you explode a freighter carrying lots of shuttles?
E.g. lots of shuttles pop out into space, or possibly a lag-bomb?
Perhaps it's some kind of setup.
Group A are camping the gate, ready to kill things. Person B contracts a freighter to carry shuttles to the gate. Group A engage and destroy, lots of shuttles pop out, Lag happens. Person B uses this distraction to perform some action unobserved by group A?
It's probably some kind of trap, but who is the intended victim?
Or some kind of practical joke.
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:22:00 -
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^^^^^^^^^^ That wouldn't work, as the shuttles will still be sealed in their contract container.
There really is no (logical) explanation for this. _____________________________________________
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:31:00 -
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probably trying to catch your freighter to ransom it, idea isnt bad when you have the manpower to not let the freihgter finish the contract. -
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Entity One
Enlai
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Entity One on 19/12/2007 02:34:08 I figured out why he issued such a perplexing contract.
He's an idiot.
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:35:00 -
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Ransom as in 'gimme 500 mil or your 1 bil ship goes poof'? Doesn't this require me not bringing 10 BS as escort, and them camping 23/7 for next n days? :)
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SN3263827
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:40:00 -
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If you're really concerned that he'll have every entrance to that system covered 23/7, then fight idiocy with idiocy - fit a revelation with 8 Expanded Cargohold IIs and jump it out to a different system and haul from there.  _____________________________________________
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Cracoc
Kazoo Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:03:00 -
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Could be a trap to get u into low sec with a freighter. Corp mates and friends help if you want to go thru with the contract. Its also another trap though. U've handed over 500,000isk collateral for a mission that has a slim chance of succeeding and the trap being the 100mil reward. Russian Roulette Eve style.
When something is to good to be true. It usually is.
Clever scam though.
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:17:00 -
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He's probably camping the gate next to that station, then. If this is true, then why not just find an alternate route into the system?
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente Organized Combat Consortium Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:35:00 -
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Get like, 5 BS and a huginn for the web, should be safe if you do it with a scout.
Originally by: zeeZ Exus
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:42:00 -
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This is silly. Shuttles are worth 9k each , so 50k m3 = 100 shuttles = 900k ISK. Which is higher than the collateral , and it's unlikely he would have bought 100 shuttles below 5k each. Break the packages and take the shuttles , no need to get so worked up.
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Berilac
Amarr Damned Legion Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: SN3263827 If you're really concerned that he'll have every entrance to that system covered 23/7, then fight idiocy with idiocy - fit a revelation with 8 Expanded Cargohold IIs and jump it out to a different system and haul from there. 
With a fit like that, you could just fight your way out.
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Taedrin
Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:43:00 -
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If it's a trap, it's a poorly thought out one. All that you have to do is manage to get the freighter to the destination. You have 23 hours each day the contract is open to get this done. If it's only one jump, use a scout Once you undock your freighter in .4 space and manage to warp to 0km on the gate and jump through - you are good to go (CONCORD will make sure that in order to pop the freighter in high sec, they will have to lose a pretty sum of money).
Presuming that the contract is open for a week, the person who issued the contract needs to keep the station and gate camped for 161 hours. There's going to be a hole somewhere. You find that hole and the 100 million is yours.
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Robert Swann
Gallente Church of Alvis
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: SN3263827 If you're really concerned that he'll have every entrance to that system covered 23/7, then fight idiocy with idiocy - fit a revelation with 8 Expanded Cargohold IIs and jump it out to a different system and haul from there. 
You could hold a lot of honor in those...
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.12.19 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: SN3263827 If you're really concerned that he'll have every entrance to that system covered 23/7, then fight idiocy with idiocy - fit a revelation with 8 Expanded Cargohold IIs and jump it out to a different system and haul from there. 
this.
to be honest I am not sure why there is even debate on this, he is trying to get a freighter kill or ransom either way, if its a kill he ganks you then hauls the freshly dropped contract load off to get his money back if its a ransom he can just include the reward in the price of his ransom and not have any problems there.
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Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc Red Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.19 04:53:00 -
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Here's one little trick to try:
The package cannot be broken without automatically failing the contract, BUT there's nothing that says you can't direct trade the package to a corpie/alt who can fly a freighter. If this is a trap, they'll be looking for the name that accepted the contract, not the other pilot. Trade back when back in High-sec and complete.
Also, I'd recommend spending a few million on a damned good escort to be in place before making this run, regardless of who's in the freighter. _______________________________
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Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.19 06:05:00 -
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If it is a 1-day contract most definitely sounds like a scam where he'll try to camp your freighter. May be he made a mistake with 100 mil though, typed in an extra zero and it was really supposed to be 10 mil.
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Anubis Xian
Vertigo One
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Posted - 2007.12.19 06:07:00 -
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Or maybe he doesnt have a good hauler, but wants a bunch of specific types of shuttles in a specific station?
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Aitrus
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.19 06:11:00 -
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Wasn't there some limitation where you couldn't put a ship in your cargo hold if it has something in it's cargohold? So if one of those shuttles has something in it, you can't move the package and you will fail the mission.
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Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.19 06:44:00 -
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Ah i see, 50m3, he was trying to make it look like he needs a battleship hauled into low sec and indeed has the collateral, which for a bs should be 100 mil, and reward switched. You can use the map to see if there was a gate camp there recently - some campers do set up various bogus courier contracts to attract traffic through the parts they're camping.
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 07:04:00 -
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Oh well. I finished the contract, got my 100 mil - yet there is this empty space inside me that sucks like blachhole...It's called curiosity. The fact that I will probably never know the answer to the question really pains me. And the question is: WTF? :)
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Dathremar
Odessa Operations
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Posted - 2007.12.19 07:43:00 -
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Grats to you dude. I can't believe someone would actually do that, it makes no sense.
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Z3r0n
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.19 07:54:00 -
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Edited by: Z3r0n on 19/12/2007 07:55:54 99% it's a scam (because who in his/her right mind would pay 100 mil to haul shuttles to highsec?!?!) and 1% it's a total imbecile that really wants to haul shuttles and got the collateral and reward mixed up. But I'd say it's infinitely more likely that someone just wants to eat some freighter for breakfast.
Edit: just saw the response from the OP. Can only say: congrats to you, you found the dumbest "trader" in EVE.... the shuttle trader lol.
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 08:03:00 -
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I suppose every possibility has been touched in this thread. But which is it? :)
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Mitsuni Abashadoni
Minmatar The Prowlers
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Posted - 2007.12.19 08:07:00 -
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Just convo him and ask? :)
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 08:24:00 -
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I already did that soon after accepting the contract; he didn't tell anything useful. But stating the facts: He paid me 100 mil to haul 107 shuttles between 2 systems adjacent to each other. Lets face it - the guy is either a complete idiot, or he messed up while creating the scam contract, or he had some other hidden agenda that is beyond my understanding. Whichever it is, he's not talking :(
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2007.12.19 09:07:00 -
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I'm pretty sure he mixed up collateral and reward by accident.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.19 09:26:00 -
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I've got a theory.
Guy wants to scam someone out of some ISK for a large ship (battleship, maybe?).
Mark is untrusting, especially when he hears that the battleship is in lowsec. "But it's only .4, right next to hisec, you'll be fine." "Uh-uh. Deliver it or I don't buy."
"OK, but I'm 4 regions away so I'll have to make a courier contract. See, here it is."
Since the contract only shows volume and not what's in the package, he could use it as a way of establishing that yes, he is moving something big- like a rigged battleship or something? Then he can arrange to further his nefarious scheme, whatever it might be, the mark's fears assuaged by the fact that yes, something very big is being moved.
But he screwed up and reversed the reward/collateral when making the contract, hence the OP gets a nice bonus and the contractor gets 107 shuttles moved to hisec.
Just a theory, but seems to fit the facts. Can't think of another reason to want to move that many shuttles.
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Mr Poletski
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:20:00 -
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This looks like a case of:
1) He is too far away to do it himself and they are desperately needed for... something.
2) He is using you as a decoy while he moves out something supervaluable. He can follow just behind you and see if its safe, or if you get popped by the gate camp. Maybe his state raven or something.
Eitherway, he's obviously got ISK to throw away giving you a contract at that price...
Sounds like a silly way to gank somebody because it looks suspicious so anyone with sense will take an escort. and he's look silly if he tried anything... could be quite an earner for you though;)
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:26:00 -
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1j FROM lowsec?
make a aligned warpout on undock bookmark camp undock bay on alt, stayin system for hours (or not) undock when sys is clear, web freighter, tada you are in safespot
align to gate
tada youre in highsec
i dont see how that can fail if you do it right ------
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:27:00 -
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100 shuttles, times 100,000,000 + 500,000 =
1,005,000 isk per shuttle.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:30:00 -
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Oh I have a better theory btw.
Person called KillMeAndSeeIfICare innocently posts about a deathtrap in the game. Lots of visibility to thread, many views and lots willing to help.
One person later sees a courier contract for KillMeAndSeeIfICare and says to themselves "aww I remember that guy, I guess I can move his stuff for him" and goes to do the 1 jump move in their freighter.
KillMeAndSeeIfICare's fleet of lol and kicking your ass are waiting on the other side of the gate. _________________ Burn. |

Shuan
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Posted - 2007.12.19 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Oh I have a better theory btw.
Person called KillMeAndSeeIfICare innocently posts about a deathtrap in the game. Lots of visibility to thread, many views and lots willing to help.
One person later sees a courier contract for KillMeAndSeeIfICare and says to themselves "aww I remember that guy, I guess I can move his stuff for him" and goes to do the 1 jump move in their freighter.
KillMeAndSeeIfICare's fleet of lol and kicking your ass are waiting on the other side of the gate.
seems that tis is the best theroy so far
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 12:24:00 -
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well if its from lowsec to highsec i dont see what can happen.. a scout, a bm aligned with undock, undock/web/instawarp. then take your time and warp to the gate...
if not wartargets ofc
will they suicide a fleet in highsec for this crappy cargo?
can those heavy dictors break the wtz like dictor bubbles do in 0.0? i mean making the guy warpin at 50 instead of 0? ------
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KillMeAndSeeIfICare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 12:29:00 -
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Poor theory ;)
This is unused alt, and I posted using it just for the reasons you're stating here. But glad to see you are as untrusting as I was when I accepted the contract :)
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.12.19 12:50:00 -
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just wait for the guy to log and run it. Problem solved.
Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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xJohnnyDx
The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.19 13:07:00 -
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Glad it worked out in your favor. It's sounding more and more like he just mixed up the collateral and reward. Have you messaged him since you finished it?
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.12.19 15:22:00 -
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you can see whats in a courier mission package ?
thats new to me , how do you see into it ?
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2007.12.19 15:37:00 -
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*puts on his tin foil hat* The shuttles are used as a covert way of gathering resources for building a death star under the nose of the Empires. Soon the whole galaxy will tremble in fear, and KillMeAndSeeIfICare will be partly responsible for plummeting the lives of billions into fear and cruelty.. wait, we Amarrians already did that. Sir, you can expect a copyright lawsuit in the near future. We are the only ones that may be responsible for such cruelty. (In case your main is Amarrian, you will ofcourse not receive a lawsuit, but a commendation and prayer). *takes off tinfoil hat*

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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers Long Distance Serial Killlers
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Posted - 2007.12.19 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Celestal you can see whats in a courier mission package ?
thats new to me , how do you see into it ?
rightclick open, dont hit break container or you will fail the contract, just open ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.19 16:18:00 -
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Contracts are full of stories
Such as people placing navy raven BPC's for 400billion (4bil tax gotta hurt for contract fee)
People, as appears to be in this case, making silly contracts in error
Or sometimes people placing good value items to trap people. For example, my transport ship alt, super tanked, got suicide ganked by a few domi's from the same corp as the person I bought the mods from. Sure he knew I was coming to collect some pimp mods. They got me as I undocked from station and attempted warp, so I was stuck with the 30 redocking timer, which was more than enough to leave a pretty loot can. Lesson learnt, but obviously the trappers got their isk for the items, and my loot can was a bonus :)
So anything can happen with contracts so its a case of Buyer beware! --
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.12.19 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: KillMeAndSeeIfICare Edited by: KillMeAndSeeIfICare on 19/12/2007 01:32:43 Ok, here it is:
I got some public contract, the public contract had 500k ISK collateral and 100 mil payout. It's a courier contract, it's in low sec, it's 1 jump. Essentially it's 1 jump from 0.4 to 0.5 - volume is 50km3, so it needs a freighter. Container is full of...shuttles :)
So what gives? Is thrill of blowing up a freighter worth 100 mil ISK to someone, or is there some other catch that escapes my sight?
Edit: Added the shuttles info.
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2007.12.19 16:38:00 -
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Mixing up collateral and reward isn't a good theory either. Who would accept a 100m collateral and a trip to lowsec in a freighter for a measly 500k reward?
The theory that this guy is an idiot is imo still the best.
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Karma
Gallente Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.19 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Karma on 19/12/2007 16:49:25 a fool and his money have been parted.
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Drizit
Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 17:00:00 -
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It brings a nice fat juicy freighter into lowsec. Who gives a rats if you don't even get to the station to pick up the contract, you lose a freighter worth several hundred million.
Lets see. Freighter plus platinum insurance is 1.3 billion minus insurance payout of 750 million leaves you out of pocket by about 550 million. On top of that, the contract is still there to lure the next dumb freighter pilot into the system.
Sounds like quite a hoot to me.
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omiNATION
Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation
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Posted - 2007.12.20 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Oh I have a better theory btw.
Person called KillMeAndSeeIfICare innocently posts about a deathtrap in the game. Lots of visibility to thread, many views and lots willing to help.
One person later sees a courier contract for KillMeAndSeeIfICare and says to themselves "aww I remember that guy, I guess I can move his stuff for him" and goes to do the 1 jump move in their freighter.
KillMeAndSeeIfICare's fleet of lol and kicking your ass are waiting on the other side of the gate.
your total lack of trust is interesting to me and i would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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omiNATION
Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation
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Posted - 2007.12.20 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes *puts on his tin foil hat* The shuttles are used as a covert way of gathering resources for building a death star under the nose of the Empires. Soon the whole galaxy will tremble in fear, and KillMeAndSeeIfICare will be partly responsible for plummeting the lives of billions into fear and cruelty.. wait, we Amarrians already did that. Sir, you can expect a copyright lawsuit in the near future. We are the only ones that may be responsible for such cruelty. (In case your main is Amarrian, you will ofcourse not receive a lawsuit, but a commendation and prayer). *takes off tinfoil hat*

look buddy, i don't know about you, but I've been to the Calli University conference seminar "Shuttles projectile weapon: super death weapons?" and the entire principle is unsound as shuttles hold very little honor.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: omiNATION shuttles hold very little honor.
That explains what I heard about their tanking ability. Finally some answers.
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr Lisento and Miscellaneous Elk
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: omiNATION
look buddy, i don't know about you, but I've been to the Calli University conference seminar "Shuttles projectile weapon: super death weapons?" and the entire principle is unsound as shuttles hold very little honor.
Just to put this out there so no one tries to argue cost efficiency...
10m3 per shuttle. Usually around 8000 isk per shuttle so 800 isk per 1 m3
Iteron Mark V is about 1,300,000 isk (Domain region) with 7,500 cargo bay at lvl 5 Gal Industrial. This is about 173.33 isk per m3.
Now 7,500 / 10 = 750. 750 x 8,000 is 6 mil.
You're paying 6 mil as opposed to 1.3 mil to hold the same amount of cargo as an Iteron Mark V with no expanders. I too attended the Cali University conference regarding shuttles and found them to be very silly.
On a side note - I believe the contractor put one too many 0's and was attempting to use this as a bait contract. Then again I don't know any freighter pilots who would do 1 jump for 10 mil through low sec like that...? Obviously meant to be a trap. ---
Put in space whales!
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