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DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:37:00 - [1] Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/12/2007 19:42:31 Hosted by JamesW Devs - Hammerhead and Zulupark First I want to say that it was very interesting and very long so this is the summed up portion of the PVP aspect. Carriers Will not be reduced to an only delegation ship. Meaning it will be able to launch all of its fighters as skills allow, not just assign them to gang mates. Triage Modules will be boosted. (No offense guys but remote repping is one of this games worst features). T2 Battleships and Cap Ships they are too expensive. The patch will reduce cost of building these ships, so that they will become more affordable to the average player. Drone Bay Bandwidth Time to break some hearts.... Eos will remain unchanged sorry guys. However several ships will be getting a boost of some sort to their drone bays. Specifics were not given but look foward to your favorite drone boat coming back strong. MoM's and Titans Nothing specific was said but they are being looked into to be boosted. POS Warfare Everyone rejoice, the Devs say its boring too. They want smaller gang warefare. In order to do this gentlemen you'll need to open options by letting speed, EW, and other out of the box ideas come back. Amarr Boost is not going to happen get over it. It is the most intensive skill based faction, but once you get there.... oh man they rock. Speed Look for a stacking penalty on speed mods folks. They want ships to slow down... boost / nerf your call. When it came to dictors, the Devs replied that their role is to drop a bubble, but under no circumstance are they to be fast enough to get away. They are a 30 mil isk 2 minute scramble ship. Then boom Assault Frigs No specifics given but a boost is coming their way. Shield Tanking (active) Under no circumstance is active shield tanking to be viable PVP except for gang warfare, so no low mod tackling equipment 8). SCRIPTS There will be more of them. The addition of many scripts to the game is on the horizon. Personally I hate scripts but they say they are opening more options with having more of them, so we'll see. This is the quick general summerization of the Live Dev blog. They assure us that the listen to suggestions about changes in the game. So if you have any place them down here. Lets let them know how the PVP community feels. If you are a mission runner, miner, troller start your own threads please, this is for PVP'ers. Just a general reminder to the folks at CCP. Please remember that less can be more. Sometimes you need to eliminate things to gain in the whole picture. As for scripts.... "some of the worst mistakes in history were made with the best intentions in mind." We forgive you but get rid of them please 8) WildCat
Lebowske Nosferatu Security Foundation	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:41:00 - [2] Lack of bree :( Hail Amarr! -------------------- - It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people believe you're an idiot, rather than opening it and removing all doubt.
clone 1 Laughing Leprechauns Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:47:00 - [3] The orange bits aren't links? Wut? Boost patch is magic, it answers all questions helps all people and leads you along a magical rainbow with a pot of gold at the end. less than three Boost patch. PS. cough Mindstar cough Always Moaning About Race Retardations
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:49:00 - [4] Thanks for posting this. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Cailais Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:50:00 - [5] I listend to the blog, don't recall anybody saying there wasn't going to be an Amarr boost - iirc the Devs said they didnt have 1 single 'fix all' solution. C. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
jongalt	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:56:00 - [6] lol @ the "boost patch". more like the "oops patch". -jg.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:57:00 - [7] Originally by: jongalt lol @ the "boost patch". more like the "oops patch". -jg. Agreed but lets be nice and allow them to rectify themselves 8)
Sean Dillon Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:04:00 - [8] I am so happy now I quit playing eve, all these changes espcially to the carriers is what made me quit eve.
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:30:00 - [9] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 21/12/2007 20:32:16 Originally by: DHB WildCat T2 Battleships and Cap Ships they are too expensive. The patch will reduce cost of building these ships, so that they will become more affordable to the average player. lame. To extend: the "Average" player has no business flying carriers or T2 battleships.
Valrandir Gallente Slacker Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:42:00 - [10] Amarr Victor -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware - Oveur

New ones Caldari Koln united	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:44:00 - [11] Quote: SCRIPTS There will be more of them. The addition of many scripts to the game is on the horizon. Personally I hate scripts but they say they are opening more options with having more of them, so we'll see. i stil dont understand scripts, they have changed NOTHING, only thing they make a small isk sink. :S
Neth'Rae Gallente Neth's Workshop	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:46:00 - [12] Originally by: New ones Quote: SCRIPTS There will be more of them. The addition of many scripts to the game is on the horizon. Personally I hate scripts but they say they are opening more options with having more of them, so we'll see. i stil dont understand scripts, they have changed NOTHING, only thing they make a small isk sink. :S They let you choose? Or rather, they force you to choose one bonus instead of both.. Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Refazed R A G E	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:56:00 - [13] In the live dev blog the boost patch came across to me as ccp saying don't quit becuase we ****** up your gameplay, we got a boost patch! lots of people asked very specific and detailed questions regarding the nerfs and the general response was 'you'll love our undefined boost patch that'll make everything better!' I for one am not holding my breath that anything nerfed in trinity will be buffed back to its original usefulness. I also don't see scripts doing anything other then taking the rest of the multi-function or more useful modules and making them more specialized and less useful.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:02:00 - [14] Fix Gallente and Amarr recons! >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
CHAOS100 Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:04:00 - [15] Originally by: DHB WildCat POS Warfare Everyone rejoice, the Devs say its boring too. They want smaller gang warefare. In order to do this gentlemen you'll need to open options by letting speed, EW, and other out of the box ideas come back. Originally by: DHB WildCat Speed Look for a stacking penalty on speed mods folks. They want ships to slow down... boost / nerf your call. When it came to dictors, the Devs replied that their role is to drop a bubble, but under no circumstance are they to be fast enough to get away. They are a 30 mil isk 2 minute scramble ship. Then boom Do i not see a contradiction between these two statements??? --------------
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:07:00 - [16] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 21/12/2007 21:14:54 what about the arazu and lachesis ? the recent patch rendered them obsolete compared ot caldari recons i hope this "ooops patch" will bring them back inline not to forget the amarr recons to me it looks like once again ccp has lost themselfs heavily in their own creation nothing negative or positive just noticing
Isotobe Caldari Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:13:00 - [17] Quote: Just a general reminder to the folks at CCP. Please remember that less can be more. Sometimes you need to eliminate things to gain in the whole picture. As for scripts.... "some of the worst mistakes in history were made with the best intentions in mind." We forgive you but get rid of them please 8) WildCat I just hope someone at CCP reads this, thinks, then acts on it. Thanks Wildcat Regards,
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:13:00 - [18] Originally by: LUH 3471 what about the arazu and lachesis ? the recent patch rendered them obsolete i hope this "ooops patch" will bring them back inline Since they are now "obsolete", I will buy an Arazu and Lachesis from you for 50mil for both of them. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Bob Stuart Federation Fleet Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:14:00 - [19] Originally by: DHB WildCat T2 Battleships and Cap Ships they are too expensive. The patch will reduce cost of building these ships, so that they will become more affordable to the average player. I'm reading the transcript here, and I can't seem to find anything like that. It says that the invention costs of the Jump freigher might come down considerably, but I don't see anything about the T2 battleships becoming cheaper. Or capital ships. Originally by: Gamer4liff To extend: the "Average" player has no business flying carriers or T2 battleships. Harsh but true. CCP's own statistics suggest the "Average Player" subscribes for about 7 months. If that's nowhere like enough time to fly a T2 battleship, then whether the "Average Player" can afford one is irrelevant.
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:22:00 - [20] I really liked the parts where Zulupark said (in reference to the Arazu, Lachesis, Pilgrim, and Curse): "I haven't looked at them. I mean, I look at everything. I'll look at them. That's my promise to you!" But, here's THE REST OF THE STORY: They switched over to another channel and said: "Um, Dude, when did any race other than Caldari get a recon ship???" That said, I'm really looking forward to T2/faction scripts... and them unnerfing the recons. I'm not looking forward to the guaranteed speed nerf. =( -Liang -- I give up (Make me say whatever you want!): Price Check: Liang Nuren

Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Gamer4liff Edited by: Gamer4liff on 21/12/2007 20:32:16 Originally by: DHB WildCat T2 Battleships and Cap Ships they are too expensive. The patch will reduce cost of building these ships, so that they will become more affordable to the average player. lame. To extend: the "Average" player has no business flying carriers or T2 battleships. I agree with this. Well, T2 BS, maybe. They're rather... fluffy. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
annoing Amarr Chuck Norris Kick Ass Corp	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:41:00 - [22] If anything I think this goes to prove CCP have finally lost the plot and any sense of direction. Amarr ships/weapons/modules etc are pants - training it to get to lvl5 in everything is not a reward for all the sh1te you have to put up with on the way there. Even when you get to lvl5, its still not worth it. Tank or (semi)gank but not both is not worth the hassle Nerfs - They over nerfed without due consideration of its overall effect. As for making some ships totally worthless with the last patch it shows they are unconcerned about the time/money/effort you pout into the game to fly those ships in the first place. Speed nerfs - Why? Oh thats right, they need something else to nerf while they plan more nerfs for post trinity. I mean, with lvl5 skills an Amarr pilot might be able to fit for speed but no weapons or tackling as cap runs out within 30 secs. But WTF, nerf em some more anyway right? Scripts - Again, why? Probably the most useless single thing they have introduced in a long time. Increase options my a$$ - nerfed ordinary modules more like. Boosted Titans and MoMs - thats right, they are so easy to kill with the fleet of 200+ of your choice, skilled pilots must be scared to undock, bless 'em. Drone ships are back with a better boost? - You mean they were to lousy before? Tank like theres no tomorrow, no cap worries while drones are virtually invincable when used with the correct ew drones. Assualt frigs - these are so cr*ppy that any boost will still mean they suck. Especially Amarr ones. My overall impression.... the Devs are still p1ssed from the fest, either that or they are they have finally reached brain-dead status.
Surreptitious Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:52:00 - [23] I second the "Oops Patch" comment. Assault Frigs, who cares. People dont fly them because they suck, they dont fly them because they just dont have a role in the game anymore. For T2 BS how about keeping the price the same but boosting them to somethign worthy of a T2 BS. By lowering the price your saying "yeah we know they suck, especially at that price". Drone Bay bandwidth, well it didnt take a genious to see they screwed the pooch on that one, just someone who plays the game. POS Warfare, finally we get to shoot something that moves!!! Amarr, id still argue that even with uber skills they are average, sometimes good. But it is nice to see CCP admit they f'd things up and make an effort to get it back to the way the good devs made it. Syrup
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:59:00 - [24] Originally by: DHB WildCat Amarr Boost is not going to happen get over it. It is the most intensive skill based faction, but once you get there.... oh man they rock. I didn't heard that : was it me or they said "we'd like to, we just don't know what kind of boost we can give ?" 2isk
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:12:00 - [25] Originally by: Surreptitious I second the "Oops Patch" comment. Assault Frigs, who cares. People dont fly them because they suck, they dont fly them because they just dont have a role in the game anymore. um... what? you just went in a circle... -who cares -people don't fly them because they suck -it's not because they lack a roll -they suck because they lack a role -thus they should not be boosted? wtf? Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
Karma Gallente Vortex Incorporated	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:23:00 - [26] assault frigates have a fairly good place in PvE, thought... just after Cruiser in the progression. (before you have the support- and weapon-skills to fly a Battlecruiser well)
Dzajic Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:26:00 - [27] First, someones obviously flaming without any though. "OMG Drone ships can use high damage drones and disable target with evil IMBA ECM drones". Either you got some special ship that can use more than 5 drones, or your skills are so good you can launch 2-3 combat and rest ECM drones to good effect??? And dont worry. In exact transcript there is not a single mention of badwith nerf on any ship. All thay said is that some ships that use drones and were overlooked in Trinity migh see a donebay size change.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:28:00 - [28] Originally by: Karma assault frigates have a fairly good place in PvE, thought... just after Cruiser in the progression. (before you have the support- and weapon-skills to fly a Battlecruiser well) I don't know, why fly one when you could put all of that training time into cruisers? p.s.( I have every skill for this ship at 5 and I'm great in it, but then again... I find it's better in a rifter for the money... for PvPs sake.) I didn't mind it, but they are missing a bonus and they just should have more something. because they aren't special, they don't do anything special. Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:45:00 - [29] Originally by: DHB WildCat Amarr Boost is not going to happen get over it. It is the most intensive skill based faction, but once you get there.... oh man they rock. Can't really find that in the transcript but the spontaneous reaction of a four year old character in the alliance was 'Yeah, we rock.....but we get pushed by two month old players in a Myrmidon.' :P Now recruiting!
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2007.12.21 23:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: DHB WildCat Amarr Boost is not going to happen get over it. It is the most intensive skill based faction, but once you get there.... oh man they rock. Can't really find that in the transcript but the spontaneous reaction of a four year old character in the alliance was 'Yeah, we rock.....but we get pushed by two month old players in a Myrmidon.' :P Ain't it great flying Amarr? -=^=-



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