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Poaster Boy Dafuzz Fan Club	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:38:00 - [31] Originally by: Angel Yofiel Yah yah I have seen all these tricks on google. I just think it does not make sense to require so much work. And there is no sense in allowing campers to catch frigates. What is the purpose of that? ZOMG!! It takes too much WORK. Omg!! CCP you need to change this right away! God forbid somebody has to put EFFORT into the game! This aint WoW, son, you actually have to put a little effort into this game if you want to get any results. If you don't like it, GTFO.
Vivian Archemides	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Poaster Boy Originally by: Angel Yofiel Yah yah I have seen all these tricks on google. I just think it does not make sense to require so much work. And there is no sense in allowing campers to catch frigates. What is the purpose of that? ZOMG!! It takes too much WORK. Omg!! CCP you need to change this right away! God forbid somebody has to put EFFORT into the game! This aint WoW, son, you actually have to put a little effort into this game if you want to get any results. If you don't like it, GTFO. How do I join DaFuzz's Fan Club?
Poaster Boy Dafuzz Fan Club	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:45:00 - [33] Edited by: Poaster Boy on 25/12/2007 23:45:18 Originally by: Vivian Archemides Originally by: Poaster Boy Originally by: Angel Yofiel Yah yah I have seen all these tricks on google. I just think it does not make sense to require so much work. And there is no sense in allowing campers to catch frigates. What is the purpose of that? ZOMG!! It takes too much WORK. Omg!! CCP you need to change this right away! God forbid somebody has to put EFFORT into the game! This aint WoW, son, you actually have to put a little effort into this game if you want to get any results. If you don't like it, GTFO. How do I join DaFuzz's Fan Club? Create a poasting alt and apply at Duripant. I'll accept you app when I get home from work.
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise Skunk-Works	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:45:00 - [34] Originally by: Sara Silva The current gate camping mechanism ruins the entire game. I think mobile warp scramblers should not stop frigates from wrapping. I understand that blockade like things must exists to keep enemy fleets from entering a system or to give pirates an oportunity to look industrials or transport ships but it actually ruins the entire experience of a player who needs to go from a system to another as it cannot do it unless it have special equipment and skills. I will not stop playing the game but only until Black Prophecy releases. After that if Eve continues to be as rubbish in this regards, bye bye. I'm pretty sure no one stops anyone from wrapping... other than that gate camps happen.. sometimes they don't scouting and fitting properly fixes that, unless your lazy like me and trust in dumb luck.
Sara Silva	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:46:00 - [35] I thought I would find reasonable people here but I see you are (with a few exceptions) mostly a bunch of trolls. By the descriptions I expected this to be an inteligent game to play but I see it's more like an a place for a bunch of frustrated males to spend some hormones. pity...
Lucias Trask Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Sara Silva I thought I would find reasonable people here but I see you are (with a few exceptions) mostly a bunch of trolls. By the descriptions I expected this to be an inteligent game to play but I see it's more like an a place for a bunch of frustrated males to spend some hormones. pity... You had multiple people post ways to overcome gate camps, but it looks like the majority agree that gate camps are part of the game and it takes the skill and desire to get around them. If you dont ever want to be gate camped stay in high sec, otherwise its a risk you will have to take. Seems pretty reasonable. It s ahell of a lot better than being trained and ganked by a bunch of stupid NPC's [PANIC]
Poaster Boy Dafuzz Fan Club	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:53:00 - [37] Edited by: Poaster Boy on 25/12/2007 23:53:51 Originally by: Sara Silva I thought I would find reasonable people here but I see you are (with a few exceptions) mostly a bunch of trolls. By the descriptions I expected this to be an inteligent game to play but I see it's more like an a place for a bunch of frustrated males to spend some hormones. pity... Not really...It's just that the Eve community has very little sympathy for people who whine on the forums that they got blown up. Everybody who has posted in this thread has at some point been blown up, mostly likely a couple of dozen times. 75% Adapt and Overcome (a popular Eve catch-phrase), maybe 20% quit, and the remaining 5% make a forum post to complain about it. That 5% will get trolled every single time. The Eve community as a whole absolutely HATES anything that can be perceived as a whine.
Kharadran Sullath Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Sara Silva Tactually ruins the entire experience of a player who needs to go from a system to another as it cannot do it unless it have special equipment and skills. Welcome to EVE. Here everything is based upon skills and modules. Skilling for the modules needed for surviving a 0.0 gatecamp in a frigate shouldn't take more time than a week. There is also, almost, always the option to go around any camped system. And if you actually managed to get busted in a lowsec camp whilst flying a frigate... ------ Originally by: Graveyard Tan I call bull** and troll. If you are deaf**, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.12.25 23:59:00 - [39] heheheh - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Poaster Boy Dafuzz Fan Club	Posted - 2007.12.26 00:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Frug heheheh lol
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise Skunk-Works	Posted - 2007.12.26 00:02:00 - [41] Originally by: Kharadran Sullath Originally by: Sara Silva Tactually ruins the entire experience of a player who needs to go from a system to another as it cannot do it unless it have special equipment and skills. Welcome to EVE. Here everything is based upon skills and modules. Skilling for the modules needed for surviving a 0.0 gatecamp in a frigate shouldn't take more time than a week. There is also, almost, always the option to go around any camped system. And if you actually managed to get busted in a lowsec camp whilst flying a frigate... remote sensor boostahs ftw?? yes pls :)
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.26 00:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Angel Yofiel did you use your today yet? depends of wich one of us 6 are typing atm. --- planetary interaction idea!
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.26 00:15:00 - [43] Wow, this thread is so 2006. Really though, there is no point shooting frigates. Take for instance this Probe I am in, no weapons, just some stabilisers, a cyno generator and a hold full of stront. I'm not a threat to anyone. Retro-Troll Thread fails I'm afraid.
Parline Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.12.26 01:01:00 - [44] Me calls the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAbulance for the OP and gives her a 1 way ride back to WOW.
Zorger Perkone	Posted - 2007.12.26 01:09:00 - [45] I hate WoW for generating such a ppl.
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.26 01:24:00 - [46] Camps are not the problem, gates are :) The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
Matrixcvd Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.26 01:28:00 - [47] where do you live, you are an easy target, gate camps are great you are terrible, such is eve/life
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2007.12.26 01:45:00 - [48] I'm not sure if you realized this yet, but EVE is a MMORPG focused on PVP. Do you think Black Prophecy won't have PVP if it intends to compete with EVE, or something? Maybe you're thinking it will compete with the dead and buried EnB? _______________________________ Complex Fullerene Shards; why God? :\|
Chasseur Aveugle	Posted - 2007.12.26 02:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Angel Yofiel The question is not being good or that at it. The solution is given. Everybody knows it. I think it's a disgusting solution that does not bring a serious player satisfaction. Exactly the opposite, it keeps me from immersing in the experience I expect from it. The game is broken. It's not a good game yet. Originally by: Richard Phallus Originally by: Angel Yofiel Originally by: MysticNZ If you think it takes too much work, don't do there. I don't do. That's why I'm saying this. It this the only kind of answer you know how to throw? That's the appropriate answer, the game isn't broken, you just aren't any good at it yet. The solution isn't given you either have to learn from experience or research it(ask a corp mate?/google), just like any other problem, and on what grounds is it disgusting? more people play this game to be "spiteful" than to be able to move around anywhere you want without dieing, its like saying WoW sucks because if ure level 20 in winterspring all the mobs will pull to you and kill you, unless u know how to kite/have friends with u/are really lucky/know where to run (solutions) Its just in wow you don't loose all your armor, so u don't give a flying donkey **** when you die because of your noobiness. And if you cant handle this fact, go and play aforementioned fantasy MMORPG with orcs/elves instead(probally on a PvE server). P.S. can i have your stuff?
Sarkkon	Posted - 2007.12.26 02:29:00 - [50] Nerf whiners are ruining the game. ALL of these NERF this and NERF tht threads seem based arround either ensuring the whiner has a way to escape all possible ganks. Or they want a way to make sure they can ALWAYS gank the 1 or 2 setups tht can get by them. BUBBLES are needed by those who live in 0.0. Alowing frigates and shuttles a free pass thru bubble will just allow enemies to frigate in and grab combat ships and cyno in fleets at will. another attempt at an "I WIN" button,
Jawas Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.26 04:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Poaster Boy ZOMG!! It takes too much WORK. Omg!! CCP you need to change this right away! God forbid somebody has to put EFFORT into the game! This aint WoW, son, you actually have to put a little effort into this game if you want to get any results. If you don't like it, GTFO. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Above is a basic cut/paste reponse that has no value. With speed nerfs on the way, most of the gatecamp running tactics will be killed off. The only way left will be the Covops. That means lots of skills to train and mega isk to pay out for the ship and cloak. Add to that, nowhere near enough insurance payout if you still don't make it through the gatecamp alive. -- Sig design in training: Remaining time 30 years 20 days, 4 hours, 10 mins, 15 seconds.
flung dung	Posted - 2007.12.26 04:20:00 - [52] TBH the op has a point in a small way, wouldnt we 0.0 dwellers like to see more action there, away from concord, eve for me has always been about risk vs reward and over the last year i've sen that main part of the game die away, lvl 4 mission in high sec who would of thought of it.... I would like to see more exit points opened from empire to 0.0 so 1. i dont have to get blue with every fecker in that region so i can have some 1 vs 1 like the old days, 2. the few exit points that are there, are so heavily camped most of the time its impossible for small corps, or single players to get through. 3. ccp have already stated they would like to see more small gangs, more people in 0.0 (i mean come on how many systems are wasted out there), having a large bubble, couple of huggins, bs's, recons and 1 0r 2 intys at there optimals as most gate camps have on them, is boring but also a hindernce for the "little guy". now im not saying nerf gate camps, if thats your thing waiting then so be it, but i would like to see more access points into 0.0
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Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2007.12.26 07:29:00 - [54] Originally by: Angel Yofiel The question is not being good or that at it. The solution is given. Everybody knows it. I think it's a disgusting solution that does not bring a serious player satisfaction. Exactly the opposite, it keeps me from immersing in the experience I expect from it. The game is broken. It's not a good game yet. Originally by: Richard Phallus Originally by: Angel Yofiel Originally by: MysticNZ If you think it takes too much work, don't do there. I don't do. That's why I'm saying this. It this the only kind of answer you know how to throw? That's the appropriate answer, the game isn't broken, you just aren't any good at it yet. Go back to WoW you spoiled brat. This game is meant to be the grittiest, warzone like game ever conceieved. If you don't like gate camps, go back to empire. The experience you're suppose to get from EVE is it's the grittiest, most warlike game ever conceived. It's not suppose to be filled with happy elves and dwarves, who will hold your hand and run through the rose gardens with you. In EVE, no one is your friend. -----
Whineroy	Posted - 2007.12.26 08:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Atomos Darksun Go back to WoW you spoiled brat. This game is meant to be the grittiest, warzone like game ever conceieved. If you don't like gate camps, go back to empire. The experience you're suppose to get from EVE is it's the grittiest, most warlike game ever conceived. It's not suppose to be filled with happy elves and dwarves, who will hold your hand and run through the rose gardens with you. In EVE, no one is your friend. And go back to Counter-Strike, you killmail-hunting little loser. I'm sorry, I forgot, PvP at CS involves real skill and not doing 10-on-1 gatecamps, using 40m SP+ pilots to gank newbies and similar. Well, perhaps you could find a server that allows aimbots so that you could satiate your sad little power fantasies. Get rid of mothership-gatecamping bed wetters and similar if you want to get rid of real wimps at Eve.
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.12.26 08:27:00 - [56] Originally by: Sara Silva The current gate camping mechanism ruins the entire game. I think mobile warp scramblers should not stop frigates from wrapping. I understand that blockade like things must exists to keep enemy fleets from entering a system or to give pirates an oportunity to look industrials or transport ships but it actually ruins the entire experience of a player who needs to go from a system to another as it cannot do it unless it have special equipment and skills. I will not stop playing the game but only until Black Prophecy releases. After that if Eve continues to be as rubbish in this regards, bye bye. http://www.agony-unleashed.com Go learn why you are so horribly wrong. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Commander 598 Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.26 08:49:00 - [57] Hrm... Question: How would the option to warp (Or some other form of ftl requiring a module that would really only fit well on certain ships) to and/or around locations (With the added catch of having to come out of warp when you hit the edge of a system and the still functional warp bubbles) rather than be forced use the instant transport gates work? People would still use gates because they don't want to spend X amount of time (3 AU/sec between systems of varying distance would take awhile I imagine...) traveling between systems the slow way but those unconcerned about time would have a lot less reason to whine. An Industrial would be probably be sacrificing a lot of defensive ability to mount such a module... It could eat such massive chunks of CPU and power to use that it would make mounting anything else of any significance impossible. As I currently stand, lowsec gate campers aren't causing me any MASSIVE setbacks so much as they are causing MASSIVE annoyances that I just don't feel like putting forth the effort to deal with...I'm also quite fond of situations that allow me to take bathroom breaks and make a visit to the fridge.
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.12.26 09:20:00 - [58] I love this thread. I love you OP, and I love you, Angel Yofiel. You guys are awesome. I'm going to check out your other posts too. This is comedy gold!
Sara Silva	Posted - 2007.12.26 10:47:00 - [59] lol... finally some reasonable soul! Originally by: Whineroy Originally by: Atomos Darksun Go back to WoW you spoiled brat. This game is meant to be the grittiest, warzone like game ever conceieved. If you don't like gate camps, go back to empire. The experience you're suppose to get from EVE is it's the grittiest, most warlike game ever conceived. It's not suppose to be filled with happy elves and dwarves, who will hold your hand and run through the rose gardens with you. In EVE, no one is your friend. And go back to Counter-Strike, you killmail-hunting little loser. I'm sorry, I forgot, PvP at CS involves real skill and not doing 10-on-1 gatecamps, using 40m SP+ pilots to gank newbies and similar. Well, perhaps you could find a server that allows aimbots so that you could satiate your sad little power fantasies. Get rid of mothership-gatecamping bed wetters and similar if you want to get rid of real wimps at Eve.
Angel Yofiel	Posted - 2007.12.26 10:52:00 - [60] Why do you prefer to answer with a link to thirdy part articles? Don't you have an opinion on your own? Gate campings ruins all the game. It's a design problem that CCP keeps for the joy of a minority that inhabit that space. Unfortunately, it keeps the great part of the players, veterans and rookies alike from enjoying the game at it's full potential. In my opinion at least shuttles should be imune to warp scramblers. Originally by: Rells Originally by: Sara Silva The current gate camping mechanism ruins the entire game. I think mobile warp scramblers should not stop frigates from wrapping. I understand that blockade like things must exists to keep enemy fleets from entering a system or to give pirates an oportunity to look industrials or transport ships but it actually ruins the entire experience of a player who needs to go from a system to another as it cannot do it unless it have special equipment and skills. I will not stop playing the game but only until Black Prophecy releases. After that if Eve continues to be as rubbish in this regards, bye bye. http://www.agony-unleashed.com Go learn why you are so horribly wrong.

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