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malaire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:15:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/capsuleers/story/3297/isk-the-guide doesn't link to actual guide.
"We have this nice guide - but we are not going to tell you where to get it." New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Dracko
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:22:00 -
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One word...... "WOW".
Great Job CCP, people will be lining up in droves to get memberships after running through this site.
Again...WTG !!! |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
426
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:33:00 -
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Before I get into this, I think your main page is supposed to have "Text Slides" that change periodically? That's not happening for me. The first one says : "One Universe To Explore and Conquer" the next says "Discover your future in the sandbox", and they're not changing as I believe they should be.
I know you have multiple subdomains, but I think you need to make them comprehensible to users by their components, rather than throw a lot of sites at us in the drop down menu.
Visually speaking, you have :
EVE Online Community EVE Gate
You have subsections for EVE Gate as :
Player Stuff Forums Evelopedia
And then you have alternate sections :
EVE Store Expansion Info EVE Account Management Support (out of date theme!)
Currently, seeing these all at once and understanding their relevance is a bit hampered, as some people have expressed with navigating around the various sites, you don't quite get the feeling of seamless interaction.
Your challenge is making a SINGLE navigation tool that crosses the breadth of these and at the same time makes them all feel important.
What I almost want to see is the ability to hover over the "EVE Online" Logo on the main site, and then from there I can see "Community" (image logo would be nice), Gate, Evelopedia, etc with image logos for those sections, so I feel I can switch between them by switching the logo sections. Unfortunately, I think the main problem with that is it's not typical web behavior and standard web users will not know to do that to get to the different sections. Perhaps if you are able to execute it elegantly, moving the "EVE Websites" under the EVE Online logo would give you immediate access there.
http://i.imgur.com/nW1mA.jpg
And then, do something similar for all the sites, and you can get cross site integration?
Just throwing it out there, not 100% happy with the recommendation, but I think it's a step in the right direction philosophically. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
426
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:34:00 -
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malaire wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/capsuleers/story/3297/isk-the-guide doesn't link to actual guide. "We have this nice guide - but we are not going to tell you where to get it."
Yes, I totally agree. All of those pages need inter-connection - including the profession links, the universe links internally, etc.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:37:00 -
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ship browser : minmatar background is too dark, and given their ships are also, it make it hard to see well the ships. need more light. as always with duck tape user, light cost too much... |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
11
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:43:00 -
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darmwand wrote:CCP Alice wrote:darmwand wrote:While I greatly applaud the fact that the new ship spinner doesn't require flash, it doesn't seem to show the ship models, I only see the "lights" (tested on Chromium 16 and Firefox 9). Screenshots and/or exact user agent strings available on request. Are you on a windows or mac OS? Neither, I'm running Linux. Edit: I'm aware that Firefox 9 lacks some of the features for 3d stuff in HTML5, I would expect Chromium 16 to properly support it though.
I have the same problem using;
16.0.912.77 (Developer Build 118311 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10 and 10.0 Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu Canonical - 1.0
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Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:16:00 -
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Well, overall I think it's a major step up from the last one. Needs some consolidation as others have pointed out-- the links are in different places and lead to different things depending on which site you're using. The usability can be improved as well; it should be brainless to a)download EVE, b)reach the forums and c)at least notice the wiki.
It looks fantastic.
I really liked the new player video.
I think the career page has inspired a few eyerolls from people who actually play the game. Not that they're wrong per se; just some of them are a little naive.
I would also suggest linking to popular [necessary] tools on either a main page of the community site or the getting started page. EVEMon, Pyfa, DOTlan, etc. |
Aphatasis
Evoke. Ev0ke
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:17:00 -
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Btw: Most EVE Players are still very familiar with very long lists and a lot of buttons and drop down menues. It's good to try to simplify menues but don't create a structure that needs to click through 5-6 sub-categories.
As short example: Don't go the way Microsoft did with windows that lot of ppl use the "old style" cause they can't find anything in the newer more grouped and categories versions. At least it's something i and most of my friends always change on any computer to find stuff much quicker. |
Dmian
Gallenterrorisme
13
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:20:00 -
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Really nice. The ships in Google Chrome/Win Vista, look better than the Eve client... |
Matthias Duran
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:24:00 -
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Horrible design, really. It initially "looks" good, but then you try to use it and realize just how unintuitive the site is.
As a test, go to the main page, and pretend you're a completely new customer. Would you have any way of even knowing that these forums exist? If someone then told you about them, how long would it take you to find them?
As others have pointed out, links are spread all over the place, in many places with no indication of what you will actually find when you click there. If you're looking for something in particular, and it isn't directly linked on the main page, finding it is a major pain in the ass because its not always obvious where to look. |
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Wollari
Phoenix Industries Wicked Nation
11
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:31:00 -
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I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.
I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application. |
Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
840
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:34:00 -
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Wollari wrote:I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.
I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application.
I agree, too. Community site need to feel like new EVE online site, and not just copy paste.
Or... only new players deserves good stuff and once you are in community no needs for updates for you. |
annoing
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:41:00 -
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I dont like it - nuff said |
Indyga
UKOV25 Shades of Gray
19
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:42:00 -
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Wow... give the web team a pat on the back from me! As a web dev myself i'm really impressed with how nicely you used webgl in there! |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
237
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:44:00 -
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Matthias Duran wrote:Horrible design, really. It initially "looks" good, but then you try to use it and realize just how unintuitive the site is.
As a test, go to the main page, and pretend you're a completely new customer. Would you have any way of even knowing that these forums exist? If someone then told you about them, how long would it take you to find them?
As others have pointed out, links are spread all over the place, in many places with no indication of what you will actually find when you click there. If you're looking for something in particular, and it isn't directly linked on the main page, finding it is a major pain in the ass because its not always obvious where to look. And then getting back to where you came from is equally unintuitive, unless you like the "back arrow" clickedy-click-click-click... |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:45:00 -
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Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:Wollari wrote:I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.
I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application. I agree, too. Community site need to feel like new EVE online site, and not just copy paste. Or... only new players deserves good stuff and once you are in community no needs for updates for you.
Good news then. We are going to build a new Community site and the part I look forward to the most is to make a whole new fansite listing page which allows players to find the type of fansite they are after and improves the promotion of fansites. We don't like this old fansite page any more than you guys do ;). We have lots of ideas for the new fansite page and we're going to be talking to fansite operators at Fanfest among other things and discussing the way forward.
That being said, I think the current community site is a lot easier to navigate than the old EVE-O site. But that's just my opinion :) CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
840
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:51:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:Wollari wrote:I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.
I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application. I agree, too. Community site need to feel like new EVE online site, and not just copy paste. Or... only new players deserves good stuff and once you are in community no needs for updates for you. Good news then. We are going to build a new Community site and the part I look forward to the most is to make a whole new fansite listing page which allows players to find the type of fansite they are after and improves the promotion of fansites. We don't like this old fansite page any more than you guys do ;). We have lots of ideas for the new fansite page and we're going to be talking to fansite operators at Fanfest among other things and discussing the way forward. That being said, I think the current community site is a lot easier to navigate than the old EVE-O site. But that's just my opinion :)
If that's so... thnx guys... :)
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
17
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:58:00 -
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Terrible design for high resolutions desktops and high resolutions mobiles! It feels like a step backwards a decade. Who's idea was it to have 50% of the page empty on high resolutions desktops screens and high res tablets? Talk about no foresight, as tablets move towards high resolution this will be a massive problem.
On my desktop I have something like a 1300x1200 resolution empty page with a tiny strip used in the middle. Not much better on high resolutions tablets where it's hard to read due to the massive wasted space. This new design is really flawed and only works on medium resolutions.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
568
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:07:00 -
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i am somehow missing the "awards" section listing reviews, ratings, awards etc a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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CCP Byzantine
C C P C C P Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:10:00 -
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Regarding the issue of our other sites that don't have the "EVE Websites" dropdown. Do not panic, we'll add that soon enough, we just didn't want to be deploying ALL of our websites the same day.
Also, as CCP Alice pointed out earlier the EVE Websites dropdown is just the first step towards a more comprehensive solution to this problem, we'll be iterating on this in the future. |
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CCP Byzantine
C C P C C P Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:19:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Before I get into this, I think your main page is supposed to have "Text Slides" that change periodically? That's not happening for me. The first one says : "One Universe To Explore and Conquer" the next says "Discover your future in the sandbox", and they're not changing as I believe they should be.
This is actually how it's supposed to be for now, we'll add the automatic sliding real soon.
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CCP Byzantine
C C P C C P Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:24:00 -
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Palovana wrote: The Capsule looks like a round, green, deranged disco mirror-ball with one plume of exhaust (disconnected from the ball) instead of an actual capsule model.
These are actually the new designs for Capsules. Coming this spring we'll all be flying around in green deranged disco balls.
Nah. Kidding.
Are you on Linux by any chance Palovana? |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
189
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:26:00 -
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IE 8 is haveing problems with the static pictures. It does not load but if you refresh the page it loads. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3094
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:41:00 -
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Intel G33 graphics card optiplex 330 dell. Drivers updated beyond vendor's latest.
Website loads engine trails, nebula, and some parts of some ships such as minmatar sails but entire ship is mostly missing. Map only displays interesting star system with picture links but no stars.
Static display (ie) works.
Other browsers with webGL (Fire Fox, Chrome)
Platforms win 7, virtual boxed Fedora 7.
Works okay on home computer win 7 pro nvida 550s.
Also could we possibly get the pertty map color by actual star? And possibly icons of allainces and empires on sov map with links to the various people's pages.
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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
105
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:47:00 -
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CCP Byzantine wrote:Palovana wrote: The Capsule looks like a round, green, deranged disco mirror-ball with one plume of exhaust (disconnected from the ball) instead of an actual capsule model. These are actually the new designs for Capsules. Coming this spring we'll all be flying around in green deranged disco balls. Nah. Kidding. Are you on Linux by any chance Palovana?
Yes, Ubuntu 10.10 here. I saw that other Linux users were also having rendering issues as well.
Damn, I was looking forward to flying around in a green deranged disco ball.
Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
Jericho D'Angel
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:53:00 -
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Only thing I absolutely HATE is having to log on again and again and again every time I move through links...
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
41
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:18:00 -
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So far I like the new websites +1... been long timesince I gave CCP a +1 for anything outside of the game |
Blue Harrier
22
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:57:00 -
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Good effort so far team, I like the new colours but some of the clickable links could be a shade darker so they show up better, colour disadvantaged people like myself have trouble with pastel shades.
The ship spinning works fine in IE9 and Firefox 10 on my games machine and I have static ship pictures in IE9 and Firefox 10 on my Dell laptop
The star maps work fine on my games machine, rotate, zoom, interactive, slide etc in both browsers, but on the Dell they loose the slide part everything else works as intended. The only thing you might add to the star map is the ability to show the regions belonging to each faction when their name is clicked on the bottom row. It would give a prospective player a sort of NSEW orientation of where they were on the map.
A better explanation of what the viewer is looking at would be helpful as well because just seeing lots of coloured dots may mean little to someone who has not actually played the game.
Once the other parts of the sites are integrated with this GÇÿmotherGÇÖ site I think many of the complaints will subside but I do agree with many that a more prominent way of getting to patch downloads would be helpful.
Expanding the choice of GÇÿprofessionsGÇÖ would also be a good thing and I hope Bloodpetal does not mind but this quote from his/her post should be the GÇÿCorporate MantraGÇÖ to headline the selection page;
"EVE Professions are for demonstration only. The freedom of your actions in the sandbox determines your profession, not the other way around."
Good effort but needs extra work to improve.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Veto. Veto Corp
66
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:58:00 -
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Yes, yes, yes! I could give constructive feedback but I'm just too excited. Now please work on cleaning up the forums and Gate UI in the same fashion!
Edit: Actually there is something immediately noticeable. I always have Fraps running and I know a lot of my friends do as well. The FPS counter shows in the top-left of the website. I think this is because of Flash but since I'm right-clicking and not getting a Flash menu, I'm not sure. Maybe look into this? |
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
2
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Posted - 2012.02.07 23:39:00 -
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Nice fuckin home page Where do you go NOW to get the latest patch to download. Since CCP refuses to fix the issues XP 64 |
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