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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Does it matter that he cant redock? if there are hostiles out side the station then there are other methods of getting intel, undocking to redock immediately would not seem to be an intended intel gathering feature.
Yes, it matters a great deal. Normally he would have undocked; got a 30 sec invulnerability timer (which expires when you activate anything or touch anything on your ship!), spotted that he would not be able to get away, waited out the 30 second redock timer, redocked safely.
From there on there would have been numerous ways to get out or away but that goes beyond the point.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
I once shot at a gate by accident and got concordokkened, he failed to put his clone in a suitable station, tough luck. There are numerous ways to screw up in eve, it's a harsh game.
I fail to see what Concord has to do with it. As explained in my post him respawning there is a grey area, it's either intended that way or not; no-one knows for sure except for the game designers.
What you are saying that he's in tough luck loosing out 50% training time on his highest level trained skill each time he tries (imagine him being a maxed out cap pilot; you'd be talking months real life training time being lost each time he tries) without any means of avoiding it aside from staying docked.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
If they are exploiting a "broken" undock point then what about the guys who are good at bumping people out of docking range?
Only a certain type of Gallente stations have this bug or design change where all other stations would be bugged because they still have the redock point.
Bumping is a valid game tactic as has been stated by CCP on numerous occasions.
In all honesty I'd prefer that all stations would not have a redock point; i.e. when you undock you commit yourself and you'd better be damn sure what to expect outside. It would stop the silly invunerable carriers playing kill someone and redock without any risk to themselves at all. Sadly the game is not designed in that way.
You do realise that it is nearly impossible to bump a carrier off a Caldari station for example without creating a very expensive highly specialized ship to do so?
Bottomline is that CCP said that some undock points are broken in the sense that they are missing their redock point, and as such the OP became a victim of a known game bug. Which is petitionable and reimbursable.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
If they are camping the guy 23/7 then he probably deserves it? And that effort is hard to perform despite "broken" docking points and as such CCP should not interfere. I believe that any player worth anything would be able to get out of that station within one or two days, or if not admire silently that someone lubs him enough to camp him in a station so efficiently.
Predators go for the easy kills not for the one that deserves it. They are camping there because it is giving them the best camping spot in the game, better then gates or anything else, yielding them easy kills. They are not camping there because the dont like the guy.
It's like the lion who hates Hyenas, he will go for the weakest Zebra/Impala in a flock because that gives him the greatest chance for a kill. After the kill he will try to keep the Hyenas away from his prey sometimes he succeeds sometimes he doesnt. Yet seldomly do the Hyenas and Lions engage beyond threating, taunting and light skirmish, simply because the know they are evenly matched.
The only chance this guy has is to have scouts outside (then again a recon would mean death again) or a empty or blue system. Remember he has not got the option to go oww F it wasnt safe after all lets redock. Insta undocks are not an option either because, for one he would have needed to create one before hand and secondly their are (heavy) interdictors on the scene preventing him to warp.
The lions know it and thats why they are there.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
lost a ship due to it and got reimbruised.
Reimbruised now thats how I normally feel when reading petition responses as well, lol. Like being kicked in the face when down, adding salt to the wounds... Freudian slip of the keyboard?
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Valan
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Morberi
If he should have been invulnerable (never heard of that or tried undocking with enemies outside )yes thats a bug, but he still would have been stuck in the station and he's still asking for CPP to move him because he doesn't want to wait the couple hours it would take for the campers to go away. If he had come back after a few years or months then he has a legitimate issue, but this is just him making a stupid (yes but understandable ) mistake.
Your ignorance is astounding gobbing off about mechanics and bugs which you obviously have no knowledge of and then you admit you've never undocked into hostiles.
He's been a victim of one bug and one broken mechanic. Also from past experience you can get moved in that situation because of the broken mechanic. It seems the GM that answered the petition knows about as much as you do.
Just go stand in the corner with pointy hat with the 'D' on it so we can just ignore you in future.
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
Originally by: Morberi
If he should have been invulnerable (never heard of that or tried undocking with enemies outside )yes thats a bug, but he still would have been stuck in the station and he's still asking for CPP to move him because he doesn't want to wait the couple hours it would take for the campers to go away. If he had come back after a few years or months then he has a legitimate issue, but this is just him making a stupid (yes but understandable ) mistake.
Your ignorance is astounding gobbing off about mechanics and bugs which you obviously have no knowledge of and then you admit you've never undocked into hostiles.
He's been a victim of one bug and one broken mechanic. Also from past experience you can get moved in that situation because of the broken mechanic. It seems the GM that answered the petition knows about as much as you do.
Just go stand in the corner with pointy hat with the 'D' on it so we can just ignore you in future.
The fact that he got podded is entirely aside from the point, he is not stuck! How long has he been in the station? Hmm 2 hours? he hasn't even tried to wait it out, all he says is he got podded got ported back into the station and realized that while the interdictor was outside he couldn't leave.
In the case of GM's allowing it the player had been away for months and had returned to discover they were now within enemy territory and wouldn't be able to make it through the guarded borders, is this the case? No he's just stuck in a station for a few hours because some pirates are outside at that moment.
Why don't you stop insulting and actually try to argue your point other than saying theres a broken game mechanic and a bug.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:56:00 -
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so you undocked before updating your clone?
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