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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.11 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: HakanSherif Did you also mention to CCP in your petition that you bought ISK? I wouldnt be suprised if you have done so.
He probably even demanded that the same amount of isk be given to him because of his increased costs because of the 'bug'
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.11 11:59:00 -
[62]
My god I love the forums
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Tish Magev
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:00:00 -
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Quote: ISK just "appearing" ingame, people with artificially bigger wallets, etc.
ISK doesn't just magically appear out of thin air, it is transfered from one persons wallet to another, the ISK was always there it simply mved owner. What happens is a real world item is bought using ingame money, GTCs are the only real world item that is allowed by CCP to be purchased using ingame money.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:01:00 -
[64]
This is the most amusing thread I have ever seen!
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:03:00 -
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Is it wrong that I want to see a picture of the OPs wallet transactions to see what it was filed under? A payment to seller CCP?
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Don ZOLA
Caldari Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:07:00 -
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i completely understand you and feel sorry for such situation. helping new players should know no limits. Best i can do to continue your quest is to take your belongings before you quit, so i can use it to help other new players aswell. ie can i have your stuff, i promise it will be used for good!
:D
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CiNi
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:07:00 -
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so many failures
Bookmarked
i love these threads !!
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jlangerud
Gallente The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:10:00 -
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I think it would be even funnier if it was a Polaris on the KM. CCP realizes that you bought ISK and comes to take it back and gets a few lulz in the process.
That would make me smile. And a linky to the agressor KB. Wanna see the carnage.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:12:00 -
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Quote: Dear CCP, I am filing this formal petition in response to a recent incident that I and my cohorts experienced while in the midst of combat with our enemies, with whom we have been at war with for these many days. This incident centers around what I perceive to be a fault, or "bug", if you will, in the internal server-side coding of Eve-Online. We, outnumbering our opponents ten to one outside of a station, found ourselves ensconced in inescapable lag, and all attempts to ameliorate our collective problem by relogging our clients and assessing our internet connection stability proved fruitless. When we had logged back in we found that we alone were subject to the aforementioned period of lag, and the opposition had utilized this fact to their tactical advantage, destroying all fifty of our ships, apparently without suffering any lag of their own.
I understand that compensation for lag-related losses is sometimes given if the victim or victims files for a redress of grievances, explaining in detail, as I have done, the events leading up to the problem. I am confident that when you review your logs you will see that my description of the problem and its results are accurate, and that you will compensate myself and my corporation for losses suffered.
lOl btw I b0ught sum isks in case thsi petitoin takes a l0ng tiem
Yours in Christ, Kilina
tbhtbhtbhtbhtbh
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v3rtigo
Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel Playing Devils Advocate for the moment - buying ISK and buying GTCs is essentially the same thing, the only difference is with GTCs the money ends up in CCPs pockets (by proxy) as opposed to the chinese farmers.
Acting like one version is morally reprehensible whilst the other is a-ok doesn't really make sense when you boil it down and realise that both methods result in the same thing - ISK just "appearing" ingame, people with artificially bigger wallets, etc. I'd surmise that a newbie who buys 400M worth of ISK either via GTCs or direct is having a destabilising influence on the game in both cases.
Surely if you look at this issue dispassionately it's obvious that characters should have to work equally as hard to make ISK, you shouldn't be able to buy your way up the ladder if you happen to have more real-life cash. It just strikes me as odd really that a game like Eve would have such a pioneering skill development system (i.e. everyone ranks up at the same speed as opposed to based on who has the most time to play the game), yet CCP openly support a system whereby 1 day old characters can have billions in their wallet legitimately.
As a new char, having 1 bill isk, you wont be able to fly any expensive stuff anyway, so it doesent really matter.
The ISK comes from another player, thus balancing throughout the game.
To the OP. Thanks for a funny thread. Congrats on not getting banned from the game.
I hope you've learned some stuff. If you havent, and plan on buying ISK again then it would better for you and the rest of the world if you just leave. ----
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Lavraen
Minmatar Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:18:00 -
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Serves you right for buying ISK you muppet!
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Inertial
Blood Reavers
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:20:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Inertial on 11/01/2008 12:20:05
Originally by: Durzel Playing Devils Advocate for the moment - buying ISK and buying GTCs is essentially the same thing, the only difference is with GTCs the money ends up in CCPs pockets (by proxy) as opposed to the chinese farmers.
Acting like one version is morally reprehensible whilst the other is a-ok doesn't really make sense when you boil it down and realise that both methods result in the same thing - ISK just "appearing" ingame, people with artificially bigger wallets, etc. I'd surmise that a newbie who buys 400M worth of ISK either via GTCs or direct is having a destabilising influence on the game in both cases.
Surely if you look at this issue dispassionately it's obvious that characters should have to work equally as hard to make ISK, you shouldn't be able to buy your way up the ladder if you happen to have more real-life cash. It just strikes me as odd really that a game like Eve would have such a pioneering skill development system (i.e. everyone ranks up at the same speed as opposed to based on who has the most time to play the game), yet CCP openly support a system whereby 1 day old characters can have billions in their wallet legitimately.
There is a huge, HUGE, HUGE! difference between GTCs and buy ISK. First off, allowing people to sell GTCs for ISK, means that players got a means to pay for their account without having to dip into their wallets.
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 11/01/2008 12:21:47
Originally by: v3rtigo As a new char, having 1 bill isk, you wont be able to fly any expensive stuff anyway, so it doesent really matter.
True, but you could do a number of things that didn't require skills but still resulted in an impact on the game - e.g. hiring mercs to wardec anyone you fancy, buying up stock of something to artificially inflate prices, or whatever. I'm just throwing it out there as a topic for discussion really, just saying that I don't really see buying ISK vs buying GTCs for ISK as radically different aside from the fact that one happens to be sanctioned and the other isn't. Guess it's like cigarettes vs coke - both are drugs, one is legal whereas the other isn't and who are we or anyone else to pass judgement on either.
Food for thought, maybe.
(Incidentally - I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I don't have a strong opinion either way and haven't bought ISK or sold GTCs)
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warpod
Amarr People Desintegration Project
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:21:00 -
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People like you keep isk sellers' business running. You will burn in hell!
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Lord Det
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Det on 11/01/2008 12:33:18
Originally by: ry ry
then again, prove the legitimate owner of the account clicked the 'i accept' button of the EULA. can't be done.
When he's in game, he clicked 'Accept'... when you click 'Decline' the game closes. You can't continue to the login page without clicking accept. Try it after a future patch when the EULA pops up again.
So because he was in Game, he did click 'Accept'...
As the legitimate owner is responsible for his account, you could argue that when he let someone else use his account, he accepts the consequences of that guys actions.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:37:00 -
[76]
pwnt
Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
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Jakbek Wick
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:48:00 -
[77]
This thread delivers :D
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Khadur
Minmatar Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:58:00 -
[78]
LMAO in the face
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.11 12:58:00 -
[79]
Best topic ever.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHH
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Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Snake Assault
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lil''Red Ridin''Hood on 11/01/2008 13:03:16 This is too funny to be true. Must be a hoax. Whose alt is this?
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Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lil'Red Ridin'Hood This is too funny to be true. Must be a hoax. Whose alt is this?
50 isk says it is Kieron's.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel
Acting like one version is morally reprehensible whilst the other is a-ok doesn't really make sense when you boil it down and realise that both methods result in the same thing - ISK just "appearing" ingame, people with artificially bigger wallets, etc. I'd surmise that a newbie who buys 400M worth of ISK either via GTCs or direct is having a destabilising influence on the game in both cases.
Isk just appearing ingame? This is absolutely false. The isk the newbie gains for his GTC's come from other players wallets. newbie players isk: 0, vet players isk: 100, total ingame isk= newbie isk+vet isk = 0+100= 100 Vet buys GTC's from newbie for 50 isk. newbie isk is now: 50, vet isk is now 50. Total ingame isk = 50+50=100.
Destabilizing the game? Debateable at best.
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wierchas noobhunter
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:16:00 -
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oh god this game i so degraded a guy who buys isk then goes and moans on forum about that tbh ccp should ban ppl like u ....
this is beyond low
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ShinjiKI
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:32:00 -
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goooodbyyyyye
so well deserved...thank you CCP...
you won't be missed
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v3rtigo
Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Det
As the legitimate owner is responsible for his account, you could argue that when he let someone else use his account, he accepts the consequences of that guys actions.
The EULA covers sharing of accounts. ----
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: kilina I really really failed eve
Whoever made you quit eve is my hero - tata! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:53:00 -
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kilina if your still about, Buy a 90 day Game Time code. Sell it to me for 430 million Isk. You will have a posative balance and CCP will not give you a negative balance or ban you. If your feeling really rich by 3* 90 day codes and sell them to my alts you will have 800m Isk's in the bank so you could finance 2 more OMGWTF we got PWN'd raids or what ever other fun activities your corp enjoys.
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znoran
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:58:00 -
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OM NOM NOM NOM NOM ISK ... |
Saerdna16ID
Gallente 16th Interspacial Dynasty
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:03:00 -
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What i do not get since i join the game a month ago i seen so many people averdise selling isk and been getting **** loads of eve mails to buy ISK.
Why ccp do not ban those people and panish the ones who buy isk? Why they do not do it both ways?
Just curious.
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Considered
Caldari The Lost Prophets Euro Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:09:00 -
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Quote: our whole fleet crashed out and the enemy won. how the hell is that possible.!!!
A frigate swarm might tend to log out. Who is your ISP provider? I tend to slow down in 50 v 50 battles, however a m8 of mine only lags in 300 v 300 battles, so I don't think it's CCP's Tranquility side of things. When I play EVE, I really tend to shut down stuff like MSN, Web Browsers as I'm running on a laptop and only take tackling ships on huge gatecamps until I get a better computer or I have great skills.
Quote: so we buy isk to end the decks
ISK buying is against the EULA. It's as simple as that.
Quote: "so we buy isk to end the decks and ccp put me in -430 mil,"
By creating your character you agreed that CCP do this. CCP made EVE therefore they have rights to do whatever they want at any point with your EVE wallet.
If you really can't take that, then I don't think EVE is for you.
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