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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:20:00 -
[91]
This thread has made my day.
Supporting ISK Farmers is bad.
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Agent Li
Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:24:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Saerdna16ID What i do not get since i join the game a month ago i seen so many people averdise selling isk and been getting **** loads of eve mails to buy ISK.
Why ccp do not ban those people and panish the ones who buy isk? Why they do not do it both ways?
Just curious.
They do ban and punish those people. All you have to do is report them through a petition. ------------------
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Larg Kellein
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:24:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Fifth Horseman Ok, buying isk from the isk seller websites gets you more isk for your CASH. So CCP block it by -430 million on your account.
They want you to buy GTC and sell them for ISK = real money, in the bank, for CCP.
They do it to kill the competition in the ISK market, so that only CCP can sell isk, for inflated prices. quote]
Are you that dense? They don't do it to kill competition for isk sales, they do it so they get paid for the subscription/time code to a product they own instead of someone leeching off their work.
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Resonancee
Amarr DarkRavers.
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:31:00 -
[94]
This thread is made off win 
Originally by: IHeartYou Crows seem to suit me best because it's just so much fun to toy with your target, then own them with your 150-200dps
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kilina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:32:00 -
[95]
if ccp want tostop the isk farmers so badly they should put a warning sign before logging on saying if you buy isk you account will go in minus,
but the point is ccp want the isk sellers in the game as they create a market of ore, so this whole situation is pretty messed up! what else can be said.
i didnt know i would get a minus account there should be warning signs about this crap
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:38:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Hooch Flux on 11/01/2008 14:42:31 ISK farmers are not the problem, ISK buyers are!
No Buyers=No Seller!
Pretty simple really!
That may go some way to explaining CCP's reason for not hitting the Farmers, also you ban a Farmer he will just pop up again with a new account so it's a no win situation.
(Cool, just realized post #101)
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |

Agent Li
Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:43:00 -
[97]
Originally by: kilina if ccp want tostop the isk farmers so badly they should put a warning sign before logging on saying if you buy isk you account will go in minus,
but the point is ccp want the isk sellers in the game as they create a market of ore, so this whole situation is pretty messed up! what else can be said.
i didnt know i would get a minus account there should be warning signs about this crap
They did warn you.
It's in the EULA.
[QUOTE]B. Selling Items and Objects You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions (such as ebay), newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game. [/QUOTE]
The EULA also refers to the Terms of Service, which by clicking Accept when you started the game, you have accepted. So you've been warned.
http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/terms.asp
In particular:
[QUOTE]CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOUÆVE CREATED.
THESE RULES MAY BE REVISED AT ANY TIME. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW THEM OCCASIONALLY TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES, POLICIES AND AGREEMENTS DESIGNATED BY CCP.
BY SUBSCRIBING TO EVE ONLINE, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE.
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU AGREE TO THESE RULES AND WILL ABIDE BY THEM.
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TERMINATION OF YOUR ACCOUNT BY CCP OR ONE OF ITS AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES MAY RESULT FROM FAILURE TO ABIDE BY THESE RULES. SUCH TERMINATION WILL NOT ENTITLE YOU TO A REFUND OF ANY FEES PAID BY YOU FOR THE USE OF THE EVE ONLINE CLIENT, SERVERS OR WEB SITE. YOU WILL FORFEIT ANY UNUSED GAME TIME REMAINING AT THE TIME OF TERMINATION.
YOU AGREE THAT THESE RULES WILL APPLY TO ANYONE THAT YOU GRANT PERMISSION TO ACCESS YOUR EVE ONLINE ACCOUNT OR USER INFORMATION. YOU AGREE THAT YOU WILL BE HELD PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES (WHICH CAN INCLUDE ACCOUNT TERMINATION) THAT MAY RESULT IF ANY SUCH PERSON BREAKS THE RULES DESCRIBED HEREIN.
IN ADDITION TO THE FOREGOING, YOU ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE END USER LICENSE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS SET FORTH CAN RESULT IN THE IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF YOUR EVE ONLINE SUBSCRIPTION AND THE BENEFITS THEREOF WITH NO REFUNDS. [/QUOTE]
You're lucky they didn't terminate your account. Consider the "reset" a warning.
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Marduk Jerak
The Flying Tigers STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:44:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Hooch Flux Edited by: Hooch Flux on 11/01/2008 14:42:31 ISK farmers are not the problem, ISK buyers are!
No Buyers=No Seller!
Pretty simple really!
That may go some way to explaining CCP's reason for not hitting the Farmers, also you ban a Farmer he will just pop up again with a new account so it's a no win situation.
(Cool, just realized post #101)
This.
MJ FTW!!!1one |

Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:48:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Marduk Jerak
Originally by: Hooch Flux Edited by: Hooch Flux on 11/01/2008 14:42:31 ISK farmers are not the problem, ISK buyers are!
No Buyers=No Seller!
Pretty simple really!
That may go some way to explaining CCP's reason for not hitting the Farmers, also you ban a Farmer he will just pop up again with a new account so it's a no win situation.
(Cool, just realized post #101)
This.
Not This.
No Sellers = No Sellers.
Even Simpler Really!
If sellers can just make new accounts, then so can buyers, and then they can buy a new character with the isk they bought. No Win Situation.
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:02:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Fifth Horseman This.
Not This.
No Sellers = No Sellers.
Even Simpler Really!
If sellers can just make new accounts, then so can buyers, and then they can buy a new character with the isk they bought. No Win Situation.
Oh I agree totally, but saying that! Most players would be pretty miffed at having to go through all of that after having spent money on ISK and then having the items they bought ripped away.
And they don't have to ban the player either, all they have to do it something like leave them -430 mill in the hole and the player gets the idea and is not so eager to buy ISK again...Win for CCP.
They will never get rid of the problem, but they may be able to control it!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |

Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:03:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Hooch Flux Edited by: Hooch Flux on 11/01/2008 14:42:31 ISK farmers are not the problem, ISK buyers are!
No Buyers=No Seller!
Pretty simple really!
That may go some way to explaining CCP's reason for not hitting the Farmers, also you ban a Farmer he will just pop up again with a new account so it's a no win situation.
(Cool, just realized post #101)
Yep ban the buyers but unfortunately it will mean there are less ******s like the op to wind up when they make pathetic crybaby posts!
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Salliene
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:07:00 -
[102]
Buying game assets from China? Might as well just post your credit card number on Facebook or Myspace. They make $5 profit selling you ISK and another $10 profit selling your CC info to the black market.
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:08:00 -
[103]
Originally by: kilina Edited by: kilina on 11/01/2008 10:17:26 Edited by: kilina on 11/01/2008 10:16:38
Originally by: Plaetean
Originally by: kilina
so we buy isk
Whether or not you think it's right or wrong, it's against the EULA.
who reads the EULA. CCP should supply a warning first,
this game is 100% harrasment good bye eve im canceling my 3 accounts,
and a few people wil be doing the same
yay slightly less lag for us \ /, can i have your stuff....oh wait you probly purchased isk to get it nevermind ya sissy  ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Kalazar
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:31:00 -
[104]
My day, this thread has made it  ----------------------------------------------
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Elienee
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:51:00 -
[105]
Kilina.. you must be stupid or something. I find it funny to see that you initially got smacked by CCP by ignoring reading their rules. And still you whine away that you want a warning, even after several ppl here have pointed out the rules to you. Im thinking you are among those 12 year kids who only read every 6th post, and in those posts you only read first and last sentence (which should be easy to understand, since most mock you with a few words, but even that doesnt go into your brain).....
why the hell do I write this? kilina will prop not read or understand it anyway...
goodbye!
wOOt your still back here and replying, thought you said you would quit? Now go away and leave the forum alone... |

Iesiama Nobalte
Chinese ISK Farmers
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Posted - 2008.01.11 15:54:00 -
[106]
Originally by: kilina if ccp want tostop the isk farmers so badly they should put a warning sign before logging on saying if you buy isk you account will go in minus,
but the point is ccp want the isk sellers in the game as they create a market of ore, so this whole situation is pretty messed up! what else can be said.
i didnt know i would get a minus account there should be warning signs about this crap
They have, on multiple occasions. Your character was created on 2007-09-28, which was way before Trinity. In the pre-trinity login screen, it stated that "buying isk is illegal", along with a few other random messages. If you logged in more than ten times during that period of time, you will have seen that message at least once.
But hey, don't mind me. Please feel free to support your friendly chinese isk farmers with a donation. Send me ISK in-game, preferably, as it's the legal way to do it. ;)
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Weeaboot
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:01:00 -
[107]
Weak troll is weak.
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Klingz
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:04:00 -
[108]
Originally by: kilina
yep thats what i mean there must be an error in the game code somwhere, our whole fleet crashed out.
and the enemy didnt
either the server crashed and the hole univers went down or you all logged at the same time... Lets see what's what...
LOL - and then you bought ISK ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
OMFG owned    ------------ Dozar Klingz
I smoke....  It's not easy to be green when you're small. But it's worse to be a cowered when you're big. Smokers are also humens... but not that long... |

kilina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:31:00 -
[109]
lol oh well,
i didnt know this atleast now i do so il just go do some gtc trading buying isk to get my wallet up which is pretty much all i can do i cant manafacture stuff because im in minus i cant do contracts so how the hell am i meant to make that isk back. apart from buy isk again.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:32:00 -
[110]
Heheh, this is too epic to be real.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles |

Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:39:00 -
[111]
Originally by: kilina lol oh well,
i didnt know this atleast now i do so il just go do some gtc trading buying isk to get my wallet up which is pretty much all i can do i cant manafacture stuff because im in minus i cant do contracts so how the hell am i meant to make that isk back. apart from buy isk again.
Like everyone else, Mission, Mining, maybe Piracy, Trade, Ratting (Remember to salvage, right salvage is worth a lot).
Heck, you could even try Scamming.
Yeah, it's not as quick as GTC, but it's all a part of the game!
I'm sure their are a load of things I havn't mentioned here!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |

Valerax Orion
Fourth Circle VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:50:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Valerax Orion on 11/01/2008 16:52:45 Edited by: Valerax Orion on 11/01/2008 16:51:28 EDIT: I forgot to write anything EDIT 2: I go away for 5days and my alliance changes
Meanwhile; seriously, you break the rules and you then complain when you are 1) Caught and 2) punished. THEN threaten to leave the game. It just looks to me that you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar and then expect to get away with the cookies.
No cookies for you.
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Orator Demosthenes
Amarr On The Crown
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:55:00 -
[113]
You should take them to court. You should contact me I could be a lawyer with what may be the biggest law firm on earth. I have won 100% of the cases that have gone to trial with me as the presiding lawyer. We have a very strong case. To get my contact information and reserve my services, please paypal $150US to [email protected].
Hope to work with you soon!
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MNU
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:02:00 -
[114]
Until today I was sure that it only possible to self-destruct a ship or you own pod. But, it seems somebody manage to self-destruct the whole copr. 
Unfortunately, the Darvin Avards accepting nominees with RL cases only. 
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Tzun Tsu
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:11:00 -
[115]
Originally by: kilina isk can be bought via gtc but nothing else, then isk buying is legal easy court case there.
ccp are going back on there own rules to allow gtc for isk
I'd stick to playing EVE if I were you, you're knowledge of law and legal matters are a little lacking.
o wait... maybe not EVE then.
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Alowishus
Pastry Coalition Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:20:00 -
[116]
When you have your own MMORPG you can make the rules. Until then...
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rValdez5987
Amarr C.R.M Productions Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:24:00 -
[117]
people like that kill me.
Im, glad you are ending your subsciption. Now I dont have to hunt you down.
I dont mind if people buy GTC's as it helps ccp, and more money for ccp = they make eve better.
but buying isk from someone in lands unknown is crap, not to mention they sometimes steal your credit card info.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:39:00 -
[118]
if you join another corp let me know, i would like to wardec it so we can have a second comeing of this tread. -------------
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vasco di
Gallente Aurora Security The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:42:00 -
[119]
There's only one possible response to the OP
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Amberly Coteaz
Amarr Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:45:00 -
[120]
I would ask for your stuff but the GMs beat me too it 
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