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Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.13 21:38:00 - [91] By the end of it? I continued my etiquette throughout the entire reply, I'll have you know. Besides, I'm not particularly interested in the reasons if they're that important to you.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.01.13 21:50:00 - [92] Ms. Talan: For the time being, let's set aside issues of common courtesy or, for that matter, reciprocal regard, respect, and politeness. You're a capsuleer, now. Congratulations are in order. The world you're stepping into exists an a completely different scale than the one you lived in previously, one in which millionaires frequently look impoverished and billionaires represent a sort of middle class. It's also a world in which groups function at a rather higher level than individuals-- but in which groups are vulnerable to attack. Capsuleer corporations and, especially, alliances, function legally almost as sovereign nations. They can lay CONCORD-recognized claim to territory, declare war on other capsuleer entities, and have war declared on them. It's highly probable that you will, sooner or later, join such a corporation. And this is where the potential problem in speaking with, shall we say, a brusque manner, even if it seems justified, can cause you and those close to you (capsuleer and crew alike) a dreadful amount of trouble. Pirates, particularly those who double as mercenaries and who have access to hisec, are noted for their thirst for blood, their *****ly sensibilities, and the speed with which they take offense. There are beings out here who will declare multiple weeks of open war because they don't like the tone with which they're addressed. The death threats you've seen might be considered a taste of things to come, only here on IGS there's relatively little likelihood of a wardec going through as a result of some minor rudeness on your part. The same cannot be said of persons you might address in Local. And if you stir a violent reaction, everyone around you will suffer the consequences. That being the case, if only for the sake of being able to promote yourself as a useful and beneficial pilot to have in one's corporation, you may wish to address your fellow pilots with a little more caution, if not regard. Unless you desire a very lonely career, the people most likely to suffer from your words are the people you will most want to like you. Aria Jenneth Director Ghost Festival
Megumi Iwasaki Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District	Posted - 2008.01.13 22:03:00 - [93] Originally by: Kelsy Talan By the end of it? I continued my etiquette throughout the entire reply, I'll have you know. So calling someone a half-wit is something you would consider correct etiquette? I dread to think what finishing school you went to... ---
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.13 22:09:00 - [94] It wasn't that insulting. Many thanks to Miss Jenneth, who was able to actually comment constructivley, and not just comment on the way I'm speaking. Quite refreshing, honestly.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 23:05:00 - [95] Edited by: Stitcher on 13/01/2008 23:05:51 That, unfortunately, is rather the point - you would have received just as much constructive advice and welcome from any one of us (with maybe a few possible exceptions) were it not for the fact that your inaugural message set everyone on edge. We're used to fame and power, and being regarded as either celebrities or at least respected equals. Comments like "It's not like you people have anything better to do with your lives other than to answer this question. " and "I've come here to seek assistance from [snarl]* You lot.*" tend to upset people, especially when they are entirely unprovoked. I think the people here can hardly be blamed for finding your attitude more than a little bit annoying, Talan-haani. You did introduce yourself to the entire capsule community with a verbal slap in the face. Treat us with the respect and civility we expect and deserve, and you will find support and friendship here. Continuing to maintain the delusion that you are somehow better than us simply because of your talent for holding a tune and, I will allow, not inconsiderable beauty would be a mistake however. If you truly wish to succeed as a capsuleer, then my advice and assistance to you is to seek out and forge friendships with other pilots. Doing so will first involve learning how not to insult them the first time they meet you. - Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Number 17 Caldari COLD-Wing The Fourth District	Posted - 2008.01.14 01:01:00 - [96] Talan-haani stop drinking dear, you left eye is twitching already...
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.14 01:31:00 - [97] Originally by: Number 17 Talan-haani stop drinking dear, you left eye is twitching already... I'm sure someone, somewhere, finds that funny. The Gallentean sneers and disappears from the display
Raktar Medovski Gallente Knights Order Dread Sovereign	Posted - 2008.01.14 02:52:00 - [98] Originally by: Kelsy Talan Originally by: Number 17 Talan-haani stop drinking dear, you left eye is twitching already... I'm sure someone, somewhere, finds that funny. The Gallentean sneers and disappears from the display I found it funny
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.14 07:51:00 - [99] Originally by: Raktar Medovski I found it funny Thus, proving my point, thankyou.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.01.14 08:22:00 - [100] Stay away from Jita. It's very dangerous. Rens might be better. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Tissa Minmatar Alice in Wonderland Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.01.14 08:35:00 - [101] Originally by: Nachshon Stay away from Jita. It's very dangerous. Rens might be better. In all seriousness he is right, rens definitely has more opportunity for a new pilot as well as far more security. I believe its a very quick journey if you come down via rancer - be sure to take advantage of the autopilot function my dear it does take a lot of the dross out of a long trip. No wonder you're late. Why, this watch is exactly two days slow.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.01.14 09:27:00 - [102] Telemicus races through Sosala waiting for the scan results to come in revealing another Saracen base. Idly he scans GalNet until something catches his eye... Originally by: Verone .... some deranged tart with over sized jugs squealing int a microphone with some stupid electronic crap in the background. Got a holo-feed? What? it can get lonely out here.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.14 11:24:00 - [103] Originally by: Megumi Iwasaki Sadly I missed it, Flux-haan. I was in-pod on an anti-pirate operation. Very successful action, I hasten to add. Was it a good game? Glad your op went well! The Game was good, but the following accusations of tailored booster use is starting to get old now! I think my platoon (Marine) may have been attatched to your Fathers command years ago, back when he was a Captain (Shows age [IMAGE REMOVED] ). Back then I was a young Lieutenant, never met him, but heard good things! Ms Talan, one quick question? With all the smoking you seem to do you must have a singing voice like an old Brutor Dock worker. Do you think it's about time to quit? I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Sanrek Hahn Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.01.14 12:23:00 - [104] Edited by: Sanrek Hahn on 14/01/2008 12:23:02 Electric guitars roars and heavy drums noises reverberate in the small ship, nearly covering the howling voice of the singer. "I"locked" my squad leader SheÆs going to make me crazy IÆm totally in love with her At your command, M'am I'm ready !" Sanrek raises an eyebrow and stops the music when he sees the face of the opera singer on the comms. "Oh my...nobody directing her to the Minmatars ?"
Tissa Minmatar Alice in Wonderland Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.01.14 14:41:00 - [105] No no, it's ok you can keep it all for your lucky old selves. No wonder you're late. Why, this watch is exactly two days slow.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.14 15:03:00 - [106] Originally by: Tissa No no, it's ok you can keep it all for your lucky old selves. You don't want to share the obvious joy? I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Xaroth Brook Minmatar BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.01.14 15:26:00 - [107] Originally by: Kelsy Talan It wasn't that insulting. Many thanks to Miss Jenneth, who was able to actually comment constructivley, and not just comment on the way I'm speaking. Quite refreshing, honestly. Then let's bring on the constructiveness.. First of all, welcome to the life of being a capsuleer.. you'll either hate it, or love it, and which one you'll end up can be decided by many things. If you hadn't noticed already, we populate the biggest known entity around, space, and as such most of us do not care much for planet-side politics.. you are who you are and you will be treated like you are not... after all, in space nobody can hear you scream for mercy... That set aside, your capsuleer training will have given you enough information on what is safe... everything NOT on that list you should deem unsafe.. including other capsuleers. Now fly off, and get yourself blown up at least once.. as breaking legs isn't really an option when you're protected by your pod. It was like a baby, it landed on my lap and was helpless and totally defenseless. Then I shot it and bragged about it on a killboard.
Darina Rea Naqam	Posted - 2008.01.14 16:06:00 - [108] I have paid attention to this cry for help and all I got was.. nothing. Not even a lousy t-shirt. I demand my t-shirt before giving any precious advice whatsoever. _________ Time is on our side.
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.14 16:48:00 - [109] Aww, all this "useful" but somewhat tainted advice almost makes me feel loves by the other capsuleers. Sarcasm, for those that didn't understand, which I'll presume is the majority. Now this trade business, if Jita is the larger of the two for trade, what would be the point in avoiding it?! And mr Flux, my smoking has never affected my singing voice. I can promise you that. The Gallentean waves the cigarette by the holder with a sneer on her face, eventually taking a drag from it I'll look forward to the responses.
The Herrick Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.01.14 17:06:00 - [110] Originally by: Kelsy Talan Jita is the larger of the two for trade, what would be the point in avoiding it? Because the larger of the 2 trade hubs mean more competition of people constantly undercutting by 0.1 isk, heavy traffic and large amounts of high sec pirates that have no problem sacrificing their ship and crew to destroy your craft and have someone else come along and scoop up any remains.
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.14 17:17:00 - [111] Oh, right. Thankyou for the information. I'll give it a try later on and let you all know how sucessful it was.
Doktor Quick	Posted - 2008.01.14 19:59:00 - [112] Edited by: Doktor Quick on 14/01/2008 19:59:47
Cybarite Gallente Aristotle Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.14 20:00:00 - [113] sigh... let's try this again, I as well as others here, have been trying to help you despite your attitude, I even offered to show you the ropes myself if you'd do me the courtesy of not insulting me for my trouble. You've made claims about your piloting skill, well and good, the fact that you are a capsuleer at all puts you far above the average citizen's piloting ability, but the fact is that everyone you've so far insulted is at least that skilled, most if not all of them far more. I've spent the majority of my career making my living beyond concord's jurisdiction. I've done a lot of unsavory things in the name of survival, and there are plenty more like me populating the space lanes. If you really want advice, where to start isn't important, anywhere is good, but talking down to people like me will get you killed, too many of us have done far worse things than to balk putting you out simply for having a bad attitude. ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen.
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.14 21:44:00 - [114] Hey, I put alot of effort into that last comment! I didn't insult anybody! I couldn't have insulted anybody with it! Should I give up trying to be polite? Because that's fine in my books.
DeadRow Naqam	Posted - 2008.01.14 22:20:00 - [115] Edited by: DeadRow on 14/01/2008 22:20:39 Originally by: Kelsy Talan Should I give up trying to be polite? Because that's fine in my books. Go right ahead- If it takes effort to say 'Thank you' you shouldn't strain yourself, I mean a big celebrity should be waited on hand and foot, right?
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.14 22:27:00 - [116] I begin to see I was raised much differently to the majority here. Being "polite" as you all put it, is a task for me. It's changing the very way that I speak! Few will know that I am "polite" to those I know, or that are "polite" to me. Now please stop trying to change me so much to fit in with everyone else!
Kelsy Talan Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:06:00 - [117] A little update. I decided to join the Summit yesterday, to engage in a little normal conversation. What I recieved was pure abuse. You people are no better than animals, all going for a piece of meat. It disgusts me...
Madam Dinahkarr Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:45:00 - [118] I must confess, Miss Talan, I'm surprised that any of the capsuleers here were willing to provide you with any information at all, and I applaude anyone who had the patience to deal with you -- I doubt that I do. I would like to address another issue, as well. Originally by: Kelsy Talan I begin to see I was raised much differently to the majority here. Being "polite" as you all put it, is a task for me. It's changing the very way that I speak! Few will know that I am "polite" to those I know, or that are "polite" to me. Now please stop trying to change me so much to fit in with everyone else! You seek information on how to be successful, yet you have been ignoring the one thing that goes hand-in-hand with sucess: Politeness and manners. Politeness opens doors, Miss Talan.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:02:00 - [119] Heyla Kelsy, The need for musicians in space is limited at best. While I've busked for many corporations and individuals in the past, private contracts don't pay much. Saying that, I could get 10mil sometimes for a good performance. Another musician who could inform you more would be Sae. While I'm a singer myself, Sae is a dj and she's performed in quite a few notable establishments, including La Maison De Tout Les Plaisirs, if my sources (and spelling) is right. However, for the most part, most of us make our livings out here by gun and laser. While singing can be fun, it won't be what keeps you in that shiney ship, or two. Singing planetside will reign ya a mill isk a year if you're as good as you say you are (although I don't recall hearing about ya before), but out here, my bounty is as big as that and I'm embarrased by it. Good luck - and I don't wish that often, but I know how hard a singer can struggle out here in space Fly safe, I guess. Personal Library
Jacinda Molanth	Posted - 2008.01.15 05:19:00 - [120] Ms. Talan; Who you were no longer matters. You are now a capsuleer. Congrats on making the grade. However now you are a nothing to most all other capsuleers. You are a noob, newbie or new pilot. We don't care how you were raised, how much ISK you made from music. All we care about is a good fight and mutual respect. Yes Ms. Talan, respect. Please don't choke upon that word. Respect is never free and you can't buy it. 9K platinum records gets you nothing in the respect department out here in the black. You are a nothing until you prove yourself. Most new people play it smart and keep quiet until they train their skills up and upgrade to a better ship then that scrap heap the academy gave you. Not you though. You came across like the spoiled rotten diva you are and now people are ready to line up to gank your butt so they can epoxy your frozen corpse to the outside of their station cabins window. Play smart and shut up. Do agent missions as you train skills and upgrade ships when possible. In a few months people will forget your attitude and you should be ok. All your talking is doing now is painting large concentric rings on any ship you fly.

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