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NightmareX Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:04:00 - [61] Originally by: VaderDSL Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 01/02/2008 04:55:37 Ok, i know someone faction / officer fit a Kronos, so a nice officer fit would be nice to have here then. 4x Cormack's Modified Ion Blaster Cannon, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L 3x Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer (Offline those if you want to overload the guns longer) 1x Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive 1x Domination Warp Disruptor 1x Domination Stasis Webifier 1x Draclira's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 2x Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer 2x Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x Cormack's Modified Armor Explosive Hardener 1x Damage Control II 1x Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Ancillary Current Router II Auxiliary Nano Pump II Ogre II x5 (3 of them in space) It does 1233 DPS and tanks 2234 DPS. Overloded it does 1389 DPS and tanks 3135 DPS. This setup is using 573 out of 687.5 CPU and it's using 16487 out of 17250 powergrid with the 3x Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer offlined. And you can also online all of them to on this setup. Then the ship will use 525 more Powergrid and 60 more CPU. Remember that those stats is with the same implants that are in my first post in this topic. This setup is well EXPENSIVE AS HELL. But if you have the money to buy a setup like that and to lose it to, then why not. Nice, but gutting when you get jammed by a Griffin Kinda late reply, but yeah, it sucks to get insta jammed by a frig lol. Oh by the way, i can use t2 Large Blasters now.
kitcatty	Posted - 2008.04.11 11:55:00 - [62] dont u guys think a navy thron is a better cal for pvp? with 3 ss mfs and 7 neut b t2 and 5 ogres t2 it can do almost the same dps (not overheated) that kronos can do, but navy mega has a lot more buff tank. and of course it cant be jammed by a frig .any touhgts?
Car Wars O.W.N. Corp United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.11 13:35:00 - [63] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/04/2008 21:03:10 This setup is now updated It does 1221 DPS with the Smartbomb and tanks 2120 DPS. Overloded it does 1367 DPS with the Smartbomb and tanks 2963 DPS. eh, dps with smartbomb, did you take into account the loss of dps of your drones, as you will be losing those to the smartbomb (blaster ships tend to be right on top of their drones). Another EFT not seen feature ftw....
Plave Okice Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.04.11 13:46:00 - [64] In theory great ship, in reality meh, I've played around with the Kronos quite a lot (all gallente sp, 11 mill in hybrids, 5 mill in drones). Yeah you can play with EFT and get some awesome numbers, I've found the reality nowhere near as impressive. A few ECM drones (quite common now everywhere you go), or any of the caldari jammers (just a Griffin or Kitsune) will completely and utterly ruin your day, sure you can tank and have a huge amount of cap boosters but you're just delaying the inevitable, they are way too easy to jam and given the cost the Navy Thron is a superior blaster ship.
NightmareX Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.11 13:47:00 - [65] Edited by: NightmareX on 11/04/2008 13:52:35 Originally by: Car Wars Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/04/2008 21:03:10 This setup is now updated It does 1221 DPS with the Smartbomb and tanks 2120 DPS. Overloded it does 1367 DPS with the Smartbomb and tanks 2963 DPS. eh, dps with smartbomb, did you take into account the loss of dps of your drones, as you will be losing those to the smartbomb (blaster ships tend to be right on top of their drones). Another EFT not seen feature ftw.... Well yeah, you will kill your own drones if you are within 5000m from them. But you can still hit for descent damage at 7 km from the target with Ion Blaster Cannon II. The Smartbomb is there for one reason though, to kill ECM drones. It's a pain in the ass to get jammed by those in a Kronos.
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.04.11 14:11:00 - [66] Edited by: Pteranodon on 11/04/2008 14:12:05 A little off topic I know but I could not resist-I would never PVP in this ship-it is too much of a loose it quick concern. I just use mine for mission salvaging. I don't need to worry much about a fancy fit-its a great ship for salvaging & in that respect has no equal. I know all the arguements about get a Catalyst at 100 hundredth of the price but hey salvaging feels good in a pimp ship-so I'm happy & I get to keep it longer.
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.04.11 16:52:00 - [67] Maruaders are so insanely easy to ecm I just feel like their only use is mission/ratting. Just my opinion.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.11 17:23:00 - [68] That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
NightmareX Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.11 17:39:00 - [69] Originally by: Erotic Irony That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. You can fit ECCM on a Kronos / Navy Mega, but you make the ship even more useless then.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.11 17:48:00 - [70] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Erotic Irony That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. You can fit ECCM on a Kronos / Navy Mega, but you make the ship even more useless then. Ok. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
NightmareX Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.11 18:07:00 - [71] Edited by: NightmareX on 11/04/2008 18:14:29 Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Erotic Irony That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. You can fit ECCM on a Kronos / Navy Mega, but you make the ship even more useless then. Ok. Well the reason you make it kinda useless with an ECCM is because: Remove the MWD = How are you gonna catch someone without one?. Remove the Disruptor = Who the hell are you gonna kill if your alone?. Remove the Webber = You wanna hit the targets or what?. Remove the Cap Injector = I'll guess you want to live longer than 1 min. Ok, choose what you would change out for an ECCM.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.11 18:17:00 - [72] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Erotic Irony That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. You can fit ECCM on a Kronos / Navy Mega, but you make the ship even more useless then. Ok. Well the reason you make it kinda useless with an ECCM is because: Remove the MWD = How are you gonna catch someone without one?. Remove the Disruptor = Who the hell are you gonna kill if your alone?. Remove the Webber = You wanna hit the targets or?. Remove the Cap Injector = I'll guess you want to live longer than 1 min. Ok, choose what you would change out for an ECCM. Best case scenario I would get dedicated tacklers and remote logistics to compromise, as there is absolutely no sense in soloing. But that's the reality of pvp, you can never get everything you want and lag and instinct are definitely a part of it. And this incidentally was my point with the ECCM. You don't become "useless," you either play in such a way to ameliorate your weakness or you gamble the entire ship sans ECCM by just flying it like a regular mega, and die to a bait drake in lowsec. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Dearest Wish State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.11 18:20:00 - [73] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 11/04/2008 18:14:29 Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Erotic Irony That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. You can fit ECCM on a Kronos / Navy Mega, but you make the ship even more useless then. Ok. Well the reason you make it kinda useless with an ECCM is because: Remove the MWD = How are you gonna catch someone without one?. Remove the Disruptor = Who the hell are you gonna kill if your alone?. Remove the Webber = You wanna hit the targets or what?. Remove the Cap Injector = I'll guess you want to live longer than 1 min. Ok, choose what you would change out for an ECCM. You're an embarrassment. Fitting the Kronos for any type of PvP without an ECCM is pathetic to say the least. Maur's are simply bad at solo PvP. It's a gang ship. So remove the web and the WD and replace with with 2x Medium Jector and 1x ECCM
NightmareX Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.11 18:37:00 - [74] Edited by: NightmareX on 11/04/2008 18:39:45 Lets say you are in a 4 vs 4 fight. We are me in a Kronos, one in a Mega and one in a Vagabond and one in a Rook / Falcon. And then we are going up against a Mega, one Hurricane, one Astarte and one Rook / Falcon. When we attack them, who do you think our Recon ship (Rook / Falcon) would lock and jam first?, yes he will jam the hell out of the other Recon ship we are fighting as long he get the locks on him first. But then, if you don't have a Recon ship in your gang, it can be kinda scary. And tbh, i would never use a Kronos in PVP if i know that i can't have a Recon ship with me. Or i would be crazy as hell if i would use it solo, but you never know.
Daraxia	Posted - 2008.04.12 22:50:00 - [75] Edited by: Daraxia on 12/04/2008 22:51:08 Kronos is NOT a pvp ship.......... U guys talk about officer's stuff, but you and me know that you are not able to afford them. Only High PVE carbear in retired 0.0 who warp and delog in a safe when one rookie ship enters the local got that kind of modules. (or maybe CeO cause they can take money from big corps). If u want to pvp SOlo in a big ship, then use a hype, u will lose the tracking and stasis bonus, but its much cheaper, and still very powerful, and it cant Be jAMMED as a big ****. I have only one thing to say : plz if u go out with ur kronos, even with ur T2 Stuff, to pvp solo, tell me where, u can be sure i will be there with my main to dps you and my alt in a blackbird, to jamm u. Anyway Solo in eve is dead :(. Only a few ship can pvp solo (like absolution, Myrmidon, machariel maybe if u like big ones).
Chr0nosX Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.04.12 23:06:00 - [76] Tbh I wouldn't bother trying to PvP in this. The sensor strength is so low a falcon, blackbird hell even a griffin (if hes lucky) will permajam you then you will just die to a T1 BS + jamming ship. Everybody and their dog has a falcon alt now anyway.
NightmareX Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.12 23:06:00 - [77] Originally by: Daraxia Edited by: Daraxia on 12/04/2008 22:51:08 Kronos is NOT a pvp ship.......... Anyway Solo in eve is dead :(. Only a few ship can pvp solo (like absolution, Myrmidon, machariel maybe if u like big ones). Kronos not a PVP ship?, LOL just LOL. To bad i didn't fraps the awesome fight i had in my Kronos yesterday against 4 bs'es and 1 HAC on sisi. Yes it was only on sisi. But oh well, it was uber fun anyways. I tanked them all while i slowly killed most of them. 1 BS and the HAC warped out though. And saying solo PVP is dead is seriously wrong. You just need to find the right place / persons to fight, then all is cool.
Marlona Sky Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.13 04:04:00 - [78] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists id say remove the 2 medium neuts and leave the highslots empty, so you can overheat the guns on a 1v1 for a way longer time. That is a really good idea actually. Guns in the odd slots and offlined T1 mods in the even ones. Then simply drag and drop your 4 guns to the F1,F2,F3,F4 keys or whatever for uber pwnage. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you and... scouts, logistic ships, people to web you, alts with bonuses, not fitting nice gear, avoiding trafic hubs, etc... easy right??
evoli rehathe The Blackstone Group Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.23 10:18:00 - [79] replace your t2 EANM with at least a Amarr EANM i think it's just a bit better overall resists/fittings and they are pretty cheap these days. (25mil) awaiting the holy grail of sigs...
Temp Boi D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.10 09:08:00 - [80] [Kronos, New Setup 7] Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Brynn's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Brynn's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Brynn's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Raysere's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Medium Energy Neutralizer II (Offline) Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Medium Energy Neutralizer II (Offline) Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Medium Energy Neutralizer II (Offline) Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Nanobot Accelerator II Nanobot Accelerator II Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Resists: EM: 81% THM: 78.4% KIN: 81.5% EXP: 66% DPS Tanked: 1031 (1334 Overloaded) Total DPS: 1507 (1701 Overloaded) /thread tbh
MarkusBarak Gallente Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.07.10 09:56:00 - [81] Edited by: MarkusBarak on 10/07/2008 09:57:02 Ok I currently cannot log into eve because I am underway on a submarine right now but this is my kronos setup that I can remember. hi 2 neutrons II 2 ions II 2 unstable nuets (not offlined) 1 tractor mids 1 named MWD 1 fleeting webber jammer II heavycap booster II lows 1 LARII 2 1600mm plates 1 magstab II EANMII DCII faction exp hardner rigs two power rigs this setup eats alot of power so I had to throw those on I would have rather had trimarks so if you can think of some low cost faction mods 100m or less that could help with that.... thinking of using an ammar navy LAR and if using faction ammo only would faction guns be better??????
Temp Boi D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.11 23:21:00 - [82] Originally by: MarkusBarak Edited by: MarkusBarak on 10/07/2008 09:57:02 Ok I currently cannot log into eve because I am underway on a submarine right now but this is my kronos setup that I can remember. hi 2 neutrons II 2 ions II 2 unstable nuets (not offlined) 1 tractor mids 1 named MWD 1 fleeting webber jammer II heavycap booster II lows 1 LARII 2 1600mm plates 1 magstab II EANMII DCII faction exp hardner rigs two power rigs this setup eats alot of power so I had to throw those on I would have rather had trimarks so if you can think of some low cost faction mods 100m or less that could help with that.... thinking of using an ammar navy LAR and if using faction ammo only would faction guns be better?????? Don't.. Ever.. Use that.. The neuts are so incredibly unneccessary and also virtually pointless on a ship like the kronos. If you need to fit 2 grid rigs to a ship, you're generally doing something wrong. 1. Mixed guns: This is the least of your problems in that setup to be frank, but it's generally a bad idea to use guns with mixed ranges. It can be done, but having guns with equal stats in terms of range and tracking is a good idea. 2. Plates: Oh lord no, just no. This ship has a REP bonus, USE IT! Ditch the plates, fit either a dual rep setup with 2 EANMs and a damage control, or a single rep also with 2 EANMs and a damage control. 3. >2 magstabs: The kronos is a blaster ship, it doesn't have the 5 heavy drone capability of the Mega to pad its total dps. As such, it's best not to skimp on the damage aspect. If you love the gank, use the single rep fit mentioned above with 3 magstabs, if not, use the dual rep with 2 magstabs. 4. Rigs: One shouldn't use grid rigs on their ship unless their presence is absolutely required to field a functional setup. Using 2 on a kronos is absolutely ridiculous, if you have such a weak ability to fit your ships, you shouldn't be flying a ship of this caliber in the first place. For a dual rep setup, use a 2 Auxiliary Nano Pump or 1 Auxiliary Nano Pump, 1 Nanobot Accelerator setup to emphasize max dps tanked over cap sustainabiity. For the single rep setup, use 2 Nanobot Accelerators to maximize the dps tanked and take advantage of the halved cap usage to fuel your tank. A tech 2 version of the setup I posted above is viable (not sure if its a CPU fit), although the more faction the better; especially when it comes to the tank and the lowslots in general. I must restate though, that I do NOT think you're ready for a ship like this with the setup you posted. I realize you came here for help with the setup in the first place, but regardless, anyone with a half-decent ship fitting ability wouldn't make the majority of the mistakes you made with your setup. I suggest you stick with the Hype, which happens to be very similar to the kronos despite the hull difference, and work on your fitting ability. I wouldn't undock in your kronos until you're well and ready, both experience and skill-wise. By the way, faction guns suck hard, don't bother with them. The only viable non-t2 guns are generally the officer ones, and even then only the top officer ones.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.11 23:27:00 - [83] Edited by: NightmareX on 11/07/2008 23:29:05 I can say for sure that Temp boi's setup longer up is working good, even when i don't have tried that setup yet. But yeah, using Heavy Neuts on a ship that have hard enought time to keep it's cap up and running to keep the tank running is a good enough reason to not use neuts on the Kronos.
Waga Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.07.12 11:34:00 - [84] Edited by: Waga on 12/07/2008 11:34:43 Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 11/04/2008 18:14:29 Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Erotic Irony That AAA guy & bellum are right, who cares about tech two MWDs and webs when everything should be devoted to protecting and tanking this billion isk lossmail. All that energy spent on ridiculous tech two rigs and cosmos implants and no ECCM, it will die unspectacularly like this. You can fit ECCM on a Kronos / Navy Mega, but you make the ship even more useless then. Ok. Well the reason you make it kinda useless with an ECCM is because: Remove the MWD = How are you gonna catch someone without one?. Remove the Disruptor = Who the hell are you gonna kill if your alone?. Remove the Webber = You wanna hit the targets or what?. Remove the Cap Injector = I'll guess you want to live longer than 1 min. Ok, choose what you would change out for an ECCM. ^^ true true true true ^^ BUT tbh i allways have a named eccm with me, nothing more anoying getting jammed and the targets warps off in hull .. ECCM is clever in solo and 1vs2
Seriya Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.12 12:39:00 - [85] What do you do when a Rapier uncloaks? Aside from sit there for as long as it takes for his mates to show up and gank you? I'd fit a single faction Heavy Neut, even if it means fitting a RCU. Your survivability will go up dramatically.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.12 13:39:00 - [86] Originally by: Seriya What do you do when a Rapier uncloaks? Aside from sit there for as long as it takes for his mates to show up and gank you? I'd fit a single faction Heavy Neut, even if it means fitting a RCU. Your survivability will go up dramatically. You have a point in that though. But on normal bs'es i would never use a neut, because it will most likely be wasted cap. But against smaller ships it can be smart to have one fitted at least.
Li Na	Posted - 2008.07.19 04:32:00 - [87] I find that when using buffer tanks you have lots of cap leftover since your not using it for the reppers I like to fit heavy nuets. If the guy your after is using an active tank he is gonna be hurting pretty bad and every cycle of your nuet your killing his ability to rep back. For my Mega I fit 6 neutrons 2 heavy nuets with a pure buffer tank. On my ammar char I fit 7 heavy pulse one heavy nuet and a pure buffer. If doesnt work as well on other passive tanked ships but if it uses cap for guns by the end of the fight there useally out. The number one advantage about having the nuet I believe is taking out tackles kills the scram and there speed so you can either A. get away or B. Web and kill. Its not always about DPS

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