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James Fragglerock	Posted - 2008.01.20 05:43:00 - [1] I am maybe a week or two away from getting my first BC and I'm wondering if I could get some advice. I really enjoy using drones and have been training drone skills, so that makes me want to get a Myrmidon for the drone space. However, I hear that it got nerfed in recent patches, and I'm worried that it will be underpowered. I hear the Brutix is overall better, and I also like the Brutix for it's appearance, and I think the Myrm looks a little too radical for my style. I know that shouldn't come into play, but you spend A LOT of time looking at your ship. Could I get some advice from some seasons Gallente BC pilots? Keep in mind that I lean towards drones over extra guns. Thanks guys.
Kaileen Starsong Amarr True Foundation Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.20 07:07:00 - [2] Myrm's quite a bit easier to fit and fly, especially for a newer pilot. If you like drones that much, you're probably better with it really, although it's not like Brutix has small dronebay As for Myrm getting hit by a nerfbat - yes, that's true. It's not nearly underpowered now, don't listen to the whiners, they always blow things out of proportion, be it the state of Amarr in pvp, nanoships, myrm and so on... If it's your first BCs you are most likely to not even notice the difference between old myrm and a new one tbh.
Pandares Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.20 07:56:00 - [3] It's far easier to tank a myrmi, and it is still the better drone boat. Brutix looks a lot better though
Caios Caldari Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.20 08:11:00 - [4] Go myrm. The bandwidth nerf means that the number/type of drones you can have out will be the same as on a vexor, but you'll have more spares, a much better tank and some flexibility with fitting guns. Brutix is basically a thorax on roids (or an anemic mega), so don't bother if you want to stick to drones.
Taraniis MAFIA	Posted - 2008.01.20 11:44:00 - [5] Surely with it's bonii the Brutix is an anemic Hyperion?
TimMc Gallente Vidar Fierd Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.20 13:28:00 - [6] Myrmidon is great for missions up to level 3, pretty good still for PvP. Natural move to dominix for level 4s. However gunships like the Brutix are alot better for PvP in most peoples opinion.
Ka Jolo Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.01.21 15:49:00 - [7] The Myrmidon can gank better than the Brutix. The Myrmidon can tank better than the Brutix. There is no reason to fly a Brutix over a Myrmidon, except that the Brutix costs less. But if the difference in price is the determining factor, don't fly either, per the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" principle. Your Money or Your Life! The journal of a space pirate
Praxis1452 The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.21 16:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Ka Jolo The Myrmidon can gank better than the Brutix. The Myrmidon can tank better than the Brutix. There is no reason to fly a Brutix over a Myrmidon, except that the Brutix costs less. But if the difference in price is the determining factor, don't fly either, per the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" principle. umm.. no... Brutix with 7x heavy neutron blaster II's, web, mwd, disruptor, eccm/ utility slot 3x magnetic field stabs RCU/PDU/w/e if you have the fitting skills dcu 5x hammerhead II's will do around 850dps with very good skills. 4x magstabs bring it up to just around 900. ôHe who must expend his life to prolong life cannot enjoy it, and he who is still seeking for his life does not have it and can as little enjoy it.ö
Corphus The NewOrder	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:22:00 - [9] Originally by: TimMc Myrmidon is great for missions up to level 3, pretty good still for PvP. Natural move to dominix for level 4s. However gunships like the Brutix are alot better for PvP in most peoples opinion. u can do lvl 4s without problems in this ship aswell.
TimMc Gallente Vidar Fierd Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.21 23:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Corphus Originally by: TimMc Myrmidon is great for missions up to level 3, pretty good still for PvP. Natural move to dominix for level 4s. However gunships like the Brutix are alot better for PvP in most peoples opinion. u can do lvl 4s without problems in this ship aswell. Maybe with very high skills, and it would be slow. At that point you have more than enough skills for Dominix, meaning doing level 4s in a Myrmidon purely for the epeen.... like ratting 0.0 in an AF.
testerse	Posted - 2008.01.22 04:00:00 - [11] so verdict is brutix is a capable pvp boat?
Ess Erbe Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.01.22 08:38:00 - [12] Originally by: testerse so verdict is brutix is a capable pvp boat? Very much so, as is the Myrmidon.
Rharo	Posted - 2008.01.22 08:53:00 - [13] With my alt, I'm doing level 4 combat missions in a rigged - droned - railed - armor tanked Myrm. I consider a waist of time to train battleships and specialize in large hybrid guns to a reasonable level to do the same thing which I can easily do with a battlecruiser. What's an epeen?
TimMc Gallente Vidar Fierd Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.22 10:02:00 - [14] Edited by: TimMc on 22/01/2008 10:02:22 Originally by: Rharo Edited by: Rharo on 22/01/2008 09:07:04 With my alt, I'm doing level 4 combat missions in a rigged - droned - railed - armor tanked Myrm. I consider a waist of time to train battleships and specialize in large hybrid guns to a reasonable level to do the same thing which I can easily do with a battlecruiser. Sort of ... I prefer to train drones and HAC which is far more versatile than a battleship. What's an epeen? Well good for you, most of us do the missions in a fraction of the time. Back before the BC shield recharge nerf, I used to do level 4s in a passive tanking, projectile shooting, ogre II Myrmidon... but now I use Dominix and its much quicker and versatile. Ishtar can do them about aswell, less tank but same drone abilities.
Ka Jolo Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.01.22 11:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Praxis1452 Originally by: Ka Jolo The Myrmidon can gank better than the Brutix. umm.. no... Apologies. Since the recent drone nerf, the Myrmidon no longer outganks the Brutix. (It relied on 5 heavy drones to surpass what the Brutix could do with an extra gun, gun bonus, and medium drones.) Your Money or Your Life! The journal of a space pirate
Saerdna16ID Gallente 16th Interspacial Dynasty	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:11:00 - [16] So Brutix is better than Myrm. ATM flying a Vexor and i am into armor tanking. My next step will be BC when i get into level 3 missions. I am interesting in both PVP and PVE, ofcourse different set-up will be required on PVP and PVE.
Rharo	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:19:00 - [17] Guys ... guys ... ganking ... pvp fitting ... Neutron Brutix with 3 Mag Stabs ... I think the discussion took us pretty far out. A guy who wants a quick answer to a really simple question. Keep your eyes on the ball. "I am maybe a week or two away from getting my first BC" Good for you. "I really enjoy using drones and have been training drone skills" Drones rocks. "I'm worried that Myrm is underpowered." Nothing to worry about here. "I hear the Brutix is overall better." Depends. EVE is relativistic game. "Keep in mind that I lean towards drones over extra guns." You figured it out that drones are cool, did you? "Could I get some advice from some seasons Gallente BC pilots?" Sure mate. No a problem. From my point of view and considering your skills, I think the answer is pretty obvious: buy a Myrm. It's a nice ship.
Diehard Si UK1 Zero	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Saerdna16ID So Brutix is better than Myrm. ATM flying a Vexor and i am into armor tanking. My next step will be BC when i get into level 3 missions. I am interesting in both PVP and PVE, ofcourse different set-up will be required on PVP and PVE. Depends. Brutix = tanked thorax = weaker megathron/Hyperion Mrymidon = tanked Vexor = weaker domi Ok, thats way over simplifying it but it gives the general impression.
Corphus The NewOrder	Posted - 2008.01.30 00:41:00 - [19] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Corphus Originally by: TimMc Myrmidon is great for missions up to level 3, pretty good still for PvP. Natural move to dominix for level 4s. However gunships like the Brutix are alot better for PvP in most peoples opinion. u can do lvl 4s without problems in this ship aswell. Maybe with very high skills, and it would be slow. At that point you have more than enough skills for Dominix, meaning doing level 4s in a Myrmidon purely for the epeen.... like ratting 0.0 in an AF. u dont need top skills for it. it was a stepping stone before i got a raven tho. the point using a myrm is not epeen but its resilence and capindependance combined with smaller sig radius thus smaller dmg from torpedoes (helps a lot vs bloodraider nos battleships). all in all u do missions 25% slower in a myrm than in a raven but u dont have to worry about tanking as u can mostly just aggro away and let the drones do the job.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2008.01.30 01:27:00 - [20] For drones, go Myrmidon. It's not underpowered at all, it just can't launch 5 heavy drones at a time, which sounds balanced to me.
Arcord Gallente Rytiri Lva	Posted - 2008.01.30 13:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Praxis1452 Originally by: Ka Jolo The Myrmidon can gank better than the Brutix. The Myrmidon can tank better than the Brutix. There is no reason to fly a Brutix over a Myrmidon, except that the Brutix costs less. But if the difference in price is the determining factor, don't fly either, per the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" principle. umm.. no... Brutix with 7x heavy neutron blaster II's, web, mwd, disruptor, eccm/ utility slot 3x magnetic field stabs RCU/PDU/w/e if you have the fitting skills dcu 5x hammerhead II's will do around 850dps with very good skills. 4x magstabs bring it up to just around 900. i dont think its a good setup tbh...you have no tank and i mean none whatsoever...and while i realize that gank ships usually dont have tanks(i fly them)...you need to have at least some kind of a buffer...i dunno it just doesnt feel right...on the other hand its a cheap ship, some take it as a throwaway...whatever the op is obviously a young player and thus i take he doesnt wanna risk this ship to die that fast... what i use and it serves very well(although i prefer astarte) is... 7x electron blaster cannon II 1x10mn MWD II 1xdisruptor II 1xfleeting web 1xcap injector II 2xMAR II 3xactive hardeners II as for rigs 2x auxiliary nano pump and cant remember the third...maybe pg rig if this doesnt fit hammerheads II or ecm drones i fly both brutixes and myrmidons quite rarely but i used to fly them a lot before i reached for CS...both are awesome ships and its up to oyu to decide what you wanna go for...if you have better drone skills then go for myrmi
Bad Brown	Posted - 2008.01.30 13:32:00 - [22] I prefer Brutix as they are kind of throw away at the price, can tank gate guns easy, do good damage and with a set of ecm drones donÆt need good drone skills. To be honest, if you are thinking about myrm, donÆt waste your time, train for Domi . cheap at 49mill, can tank a lot more, does a lot of damage, can take lots of different roles (very flexible), is a prolly one of if not the best mission ship (after raven nerf). Myrm is just a piece of crap now. Domi will make you lots of fast mission isk, Myrm will make you slower mission isk, Brutix will give you lots of cheap pvp fun. Brutix > Myrm < Domi

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