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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 06:22:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Start being part of the solution, virgil
start being part of the solution
I am a part of the solution, but I don't think we're talking about the same problem
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2008.01.22 06:23:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Start being part of the solution, virgil
start being part of the solution
I am a part of the solution, but I don't think we're talking about the same problem
The final solution?
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WrathOfOprah
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 06:49:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
First we find out that GoonSwarm has more Devs than any other Alliance (including BoB), and did so when Goon was whining about Band of Developers.
Ofcourse we're all developers. We threadnaughted ourselves to make you think we thought you were devs when we were actually the devs giving ourselves free blueprints and bugged plexes and we let you pos bowl but as soon as we got supercaps we declared it an exploit oh wai....
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Muro Deez
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 07:09:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
First we find out that GoonSwarm has more Devs than any other Alliance (including BoB), and did so when Goon was whining about Band of Developers.
for a member of an alliance that tears up when people spout tinfoil, you sure do enjoy spouting tinfoil
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Isaac Jordik
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Posted - 2008.01.22 07:19:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Digicomm
Originally by: Darkrydar
So what you are saying is goonfleet has pets. So much for being the anti-bob.
The goons arent anti-bob anymore, they're just pro isk.
I mean they flamed BOB for having pets and RA and Goons have started selling systems all over the place to the highest bidder. with all that space they hold now they have to do something now that thier memberbase is burning out from logistics and not loggong on.
That goons whine thread was so omg delicious. To paraphrase, Guys hey guys, why are we getting our asses handed to us on our strongest timezone. Were an alliance of 5000 why is bob beating us?
LOL Goons, your tears will be sweetest, pubbie emo tears always are.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
tears
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Mr Mozzie
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 07:27:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Darkrydar
So what you are saying is goonfleet has pets. So much for being the anti-bob.
Originally by: Digicomm
The goons arent anti-bob anymore, they're just pro isk.
I mean they flamed BOB for having pets and RA and Goons have started selling systems all over the place to the highest bidder.
It should be noted that RSF is not the same as BoB, they are a much more sinister version.
BoB was driven to conquest buy the challenge - we took on the majority of 0.0 against the odds. For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity because exploiting people, especially allies, presents no challenge.
The goons and especially RA are driven to conquest by greed - they go to great lengths to avoid any challenge. They will treat their pets and allies with respect if it is in their interest to do so. However, they have no moral objection to treating friends with contempt if should it be to their advantage. ThatĘs why RSF will not incite the masses to rise against them, but to take them out with overwhelming force. At least until RA turns on goons.
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.01.22 07:33:00 -
[97]
Cleaned.
Please attempt to remain on topic.
Do not pyramid quote, it is considered spam.
Mitnal,
Community Representative
EVE Online
CCP Games
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Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:04:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity
ahahahahahahahahahaha
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Muro Deez
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:08:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
It should be noted that RSF is not the same as BoB, they are a much more sinister version.
BoB was driven to conquest buy the challenge - we took on the majority of 0.0 against the odds. For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity because exploiting people, especially allies, presents no challenge.
The goons and especially RA are driven to conquest by greed - they go to great lengths to avoid any challenge. They will treat their pets and allies with respect if it is in their interest to do so. However, they have no moral objection to treating friends with contempt if should it be to their advantage. ThatĘs why RSF will not incite the masses to rise against them, but to take them out with overwhelming force. At least until RA turns on goons.
hahahaha brilliant fakepost
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Don Z0LA
Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:33:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
GOONSWARM IS BOB
RIGHT IS UP
WRONG IS DOWN
First we find out that GoonSwarm has more Devs than any other Alliance (including BoB), and did so when Goon was whining about Band of Developers.
Then we find out Goon has pets.
Tomorrow a Goon titan.
What's next? Goons PvPing?
or even wanting to conequer whole 0.0! :D
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:33:00 -
[101]
so we're angry greedy bastards.
ok then.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Mr Mozzie
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:37:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity
Originally by: Dr Paithos
ahahahahahahahahahaha
You would have more credibility if you could give an example of us deliberately mistreating, betraying or backstabbing a tenant.
Even Xelas, who repeatedly broke the rules of their tenancy, were given time to remove their assets from station upon eviction.
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:37:00 -
[103]
also could someone put the "bigboys" k/d ratio in here so we can compare them.
I think shrike has the worse k/d ratio, oh wait, no, cyvok.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Mr Mozzie
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:39:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Mr Mozzie on 22/01/2008 08:40:30
double post
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:49:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity
Originally by: Dr Paithos
ahahahahahahahahahaha
You would have more credibility if you could give an example of us deliberately mistreating, betraying or backstabbing a tenant.
Even Xelas, who repeatedly broke the rules of their tenancy, were given time to remove their assets from station upon eviction.
Well, you ****ed off half the Eve-universe with your antics and bragging.
You also claim you planned it all in advance, which means that you planned for your 'Fortress Delve' strategy giving you endless pewpew.
Fair enough.
But as a result one could reasonably claim I think that you setting up all your allies/ets in conquered space you planned to lose all along is about as heavy in the 'exploiting pets department' as it gets.
Or did you tell them beforehand:"sure you can live here and stuff and help us fight, but know this, once our enemies band together we have planned to retreat to Delve leaving you to suck it up".
So, did you tell them that beforehand?
If you will allow me a somewhat fitting RL analogy.
Imagine the US 20 years ago, with NATO vs Warschaupact. Imagine the US ****ing off the Warschaupact in a major way and starting a war. Then after 2 months of fighting in the german plain, the US declares:"We will retreat to the US continent and withdraw all our forces from Europe. This was our plan all along. If the Warschapact wants to fight us, they can come to the US and do it there." Do you think the rest of NATO would feel slightly ****ed off or not with the US at that point?
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:07:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity because exploiting people, especially allies, presents no challenge.
Sure, charging 6 bilions a month for a handfull of systems and obligation to build an outpost in the first three months isn't exploitation. not at all.
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Centauris
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:24:00 -
[107]
There are no titans in the game atm. The race is on afaik to build the first.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:32:00 -
[108]
remote repping BS fleet can easilly kill a cyno jammer at a deathstar with next to no loses or even none at all. it is though important that every gun in the POS doesnt have a pos gunner, anymore than 3 gunners is a prob. if this is the case then expect loses but with enough numbers it can be done quickly.
just pick a time to swarm the system thats outwiths BOBs normal playtime for most TITANS, get 300+ ppl in there and they will struggle to log in even given notice about an attack.
d solo.
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Kriger
x13
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:48:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Mr Mozzie
... especially RA are driven to conquest by greed - they go to great lengths to avoid any challenge. They will treat their pets and allies with respect if it is in their interest to do so. However, they have no moral objection to treating friends with contempt if should it be to their advantage. ThatĘs why RSF will not incite the masses to rise against them, but to take them out with overwhelming force. At least until RA turns on goons.
The ammount of truth in that post is quite staggering actually. In addition RA always seeked to make themselves look the 'innocent' victims, thereby getting alot of support and sympathy. I recall when things rly got hot for RA during the LV/-V- vs RA conflict, they began employing the socalled lagbombs - cans full of bm's dropped on gates as opposing fleets were jumping in, no1 knew if they worked btw. 10 mins after the fights they would be on the forums claiming 'the others' employed lagbombs and other devious tactics (even if that made zip sence in the given scenario). This from the alliance that has login traps and logoffskis as a trademark  But being the underdogs at the time ppl were prone to support them, rather than considering why so many alliances were having a go at them. oh well.. they'll die soon enough 
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:58:00 -
[110]
The worst is when people come in fleet ops without a doomsday prof BS...
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:24:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 22/01/2008 11:26:52
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Well, you ****ed off half the Eve-universe with your antics and bragging.
You also claim you planned it all in advance, which means that you planned for your 'Fortress Delve' strategy giving you endless pewpew.
Fair enough.
But as a result one could reasonably claim I think that you setting up all your allies/ets in conquered space you planned to lose all along is about as heavy in the 'exploiting pets department' as it gets.
Or did you tell them beforehand:"sure you can live here and stuff and help us fight, but know this, once our enemies band together we have planned to retreat to Delve leaving you to suck it up".
So, did you tell them that beforehand?
If you will allow me a somewhat fitting RL analogy.
Imagine the US 20 years ago, with NATO vs Warschaupact. Imagine the US ****ing off the Warschaupact in a major way and starting a war. Then after 2 months of fighting in the german plain, the US declares:"We will retreat to the US continent and withdraw all our forces from Europe. This was our plan all along. If the Warschapact wants to fight us, they can come to the US and do it there." Do you think the rest of NATO would feel slightly ****ed off or not with the US at that point?
um, a bit slow these days it seems.....
Once again, I'll repeat the point that we've made again and again, that seems so hard for you grasp:
----BoB seeks challenging wars, epic pew pew, etc.
----BoB does stuff so we can get epic pew pew.
----THAT is BoB's "master plan"
BoB now has heaps of juicy epic pew pew.
Our plan succeeded. The regions were (and are) a tool, not an objective.
Oh, and as long as we exist, we'll do again. Every asset in Delve that I and my fellow "BoB carebears" (yes, we do exist), have busted our asses to build and develope are on the line, and we and BoB as a whole will lay them on the line AGAIN for some epic pew pew. Its what BoB does, always has done, and always will do.
BoB seeks a good fight.
Once you understand that, you understand BoB.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:27:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
BoB seeks a good fight.
*locks down a system with entire cap fleet and 5 titans*
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:27:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
----BoB seeks challenging wars, epic pew pew, etc.
----BoB does stuff so we can get epic pew pew.
----THAT is BoB's "master plan"
Only somebody who has never fought them will believe this rhetoric
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:29:00 -
[114]
next time you will have to pet your own alts
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:52:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 22/01/2008 11:26:52
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Well, you ****ed off half the Eve-universe with your antics and bragging.
You also claim you planned it all in advance, which means that you planned for your 'Fortress Delve' strategy giving you endless pewpew.
Fair enough.
But as a result one could reasonably claim I think that you setting up all your allies/ets in conquered space you planned to lose all along is about as heavy in the 'exploiting pets department' as it gets.
Or did you tell them beforehand:"sure you can live here and stuff and help us fight, but know this, once our enemies band together we have planned to retreat to Delve leaving you to suck it up".
So, did you tell them that beforehand?
If you will allow me a somewhat fitting RL analogy.
Imagine the US 20 years ago, with NATO vs Warschaupact. Imagine the US ****ing off the Warschaupact in a major way and starting a war. Then after 2 months of fighting in the german plain, the US declares:"We will retreat to the US continent and withdraw all our forces from Europe. This was our plan all along. If the Warschapact wants to fight us, they can come to the US and do it there." Do you think the rest of NATO would feel slightly ****ed off or not with the US at that point?
um, a bit slow these days it seems.....
Once again, I'll repeat the point that we've made again and again, that seems so hard for you grasp:
----BoB seeks challenging wars, epic pew pew, etc.
----BoB does stuff so we can get epic pew pew.
----THAT is BoB's "master plan"
BoB now has heaps of juicy epic pew pew.
Our plan succeeded. The regions were (and are) a tool, not an objective.
Oh, and as long as we exist, we'll do again. Every asset in Delve that I and my fellow "BoB carebears" (yes, we do exist), have busted our asses to build and develope are on the line, and we and BoB as a whole will lay them on the line AGAIN for some epic pew pew. Its what BoB does, always has done, and always will do.
BoB seeks a good fight.
Once you understand that, you understand BoB.
Hey, Sgt Spot. Don't tell anyone, but I'll let you in on a little secret.
Its 2008, not 2006. You need to go back 2 years at least to find the last time people actually believed you.
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torN Deception
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:58:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Our plan succeeded. The regions were (and are) a tool, not an objective.
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Sun Ra
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:12:00 -
[117]
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End Yourself
Core Domination
Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:22:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
----BoB does stuff so we can get epic pew pew.
----THAT is BoB's "master plan"
Our plan succeeded. The regions were (and are) a tool, not an objective.
Just like the pets were (but aren't anymore) tools for BoB?
Just like the BoB bears grinding the infrastructure were tools (and seems quite a few still are) for "epic pew pew"?
Hey Sergeant, you tool! 
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:24:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 22/01/2008 12:25:30
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Hey, Sgt Spot. Don't tell anyone, but I'll let you in on a little secret.
Its 2008, not 2006. You need to go back 2 years at least to find the last time people actually believed you.
That would be around the same time you had any significance, right?
While generally not giving a toss about the current war your constant posting actually made me want to reply.
As personal as it can get i really wonder how you dare to step up to bloat and toot your own horn ever since the fail of Ascn like you actually achieved anything.
You predicted BoB to die miserably to ASCN back in the days. You saw your own tpar invasion as a sign of the end of BoB. You claimed after the t20 incident that BoB would be steamrolled. When Rise and others fell you were there with geikedoku (? or did that failure end before?) and here to point fingers towards delve like you actually mattered and now we have you once again parading around and telling ppl how they are supposed to see the game in the same way you prefer.
Your exaggerated statements of "80% or 50% of eve against you" leave alot of questions to be asked. Your constant nagging of how BoB's moral is going to fall doesnt support the facts of them killing left right and center and their memberbase actually enjoying it (and staying stable). Your predictions of how a titan loss actually is a final nail to the coffin of an alliance doesnt hold true for BoB at all and there are atleast a dozend other company lines you keep tooting on about which are as untrue.
In short all bbq yada yada and regions yada yada aside. BoB fights since 2 years against "the coalition". Losses on both sides happened and BoB is currently on the backfoot. However i dont see any other alliance in eve history yet having stood against such odds for this long and still coming back for more.
Just reading your own corp and alliancehistory im quiet sure you can agree on that malachon since ASCN and XETIC both failed against below even odds.
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k1Lz
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:37:00 -
[120]
this is an epic thread ..
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