Originally by: Chunkymonkeyman

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Bob has tons of titans and will defend cynojammer systems. How do you take these systems!!!!?????

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: Lsf XXi

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Same way we've been doing it for months.

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With ure masive participation of 7 kills 13 losses :p

*waves to omeega

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Bob has tons of titans and will defend cynojammer systems. How do you take these systems!!!!?????

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Originally by: Chasseur Aveugle

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It'll be a long time until BOB get destroyed at the current rate. There dug in deep in delve and thats there home turf.

If everyone who wanted bob gone all got coordinated took all of the systems that didn't have a cyno jammer, then did a 24/7 perfect camp to let the pos fuel run out, or wait for them to bring down the jammer to jump fuel in, then jumped in a massive fleet that is > than BoBs, then they could do it. But thats a big IF, plus theres lag and BoB are fairly good at what they do.

P.S. Also not to sure, but there must be a way to combat thier sov and get it below 3? (not too sure if it turns off the jammer once its up, im not a big pos/sov guy)

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Originally by: Spike Spiegle

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Originally by: Chasseur Aveugle

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It'll be a long time until BOB get destroyed at the current rate. There dug in deep in delve and thats there home turf.

If everyone who wanted bob gone all got coordinated took all of the systems that didn't have a cyno jammer, then did a 24/7 perfect camp to let the pos fuel run out, or wait for them to bring down the jammer to jump fuel in, then jumped in a massive fleet that is > than BoBs, then they could do it. But thats a big IF, plus theres lag and BoB are fairly good at what they do.

P.S. Also not to sure, but there must be a way to combat thier sov and get it below 3? (not too sure if it turns off the jammer once its up, im not a big pos/sov guy)

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It will take months if CCP dont start reinforcing nodes as some fights can take up to a month to load

Has been fun so far keep it up BOB

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Originally by: Chunkymonkeyman

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Bob has tons of titans and will defend cynojammer systems. How do you take these systems!!!!?????

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Originally by: Flow Befort

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QY6-24 SHOOT BLUES EVERY DAY

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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That said, even if the cyno-jammers get altered I don't see Goons making much progress against BoB ever really. I think the Southern Coalition is fragile and self-interested and extremely risk-adverse and the lynch mob is losing interest in the pure scale of fighting required to compete with (let alone) best Band of Brothers at this point.

This was a war driven by hatred and vendetta and whipped up by murky accusations and general bad-behaviour all round. But the reality is Eve is a game and most people eventually "get over" these feuds and crazy self-defeating crusades and look back to their own enjoyment and gameplay experience. How much fun is it really to move across the map and sit in huge blobs waiting to relog into game? Not much, and aside from those commanders and generals and plotters and schemers to whom this stuff is a holy cause its just an imperative that is clearly on the wane and the frenzied climate of posts and analysis to the contrary highlights nothing so much as a the conflict moving from space to forum and factual to froth.

If the Goons and their friends cared enough they'd have won. But "caring enough" in this context means a far greater degree of discipline, planning, innovation and raw stubborn focus that I'm just not convinced they possess to any appropriate degree.

BOB is getting the fight they wanted and slaughtering their foes in the thousands.
RA is getting the benefit of all spotlights turned away from them.
Various hangers-on are enjoying the big blob stuff until it turns sour.
Goonswarm are seeing the ultimate goal slipping away from them and beginning to grapple with the ticklish issue of "expectation management" at the tail end of a campaign they lack the ability, drive and raw stamina to conclude.

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Originally by: Red Templar

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System no rubby!

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Originally by: HEY LISTEN

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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 05/02/2008 20:41:44

Originally by: Chunkymonkeyman

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Bob has tons of titans and will defend cynojammer systems. How do you take these systems!!!!?????

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The same way they do anything chap Blob spam, that is all they ever do.

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Originally by: Gloomy Gus

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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This was a war driven by hatred and vendetta and whipped up by murky accusations and general bad-behaviour all round. But the reality is Eve is a game and most people eventually "get over" these feuds and crazy self-defeating crusades and look back to their own enjoyment and gameplay experience.

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Quotin dis for page 9. Bummer about our goals slipping away from us like that we've been having a pretty hard time of it. Last I heard we've been pushed back to one of our stations in Delve where we're making our last stand.

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Originally by: Gloomy Gus

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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That said, even if the cyno-jammers get altered I don't see Goons making much progress against BoB ever really. I think the Southern Coalition is fragile and self-interested and extremely risk-adverse and the lynch mob is losing interest in the pure scale of fighting required to compete with (let alone) best Band of Brothers at this point.

This was a war driven by hatred and vendetta and whipped up by murky accusations and general bad-behaviour all round. But the reality is Eve is a game and most people eventually "get over" these feuds and crazy self-defeating crusades and look back to their own enjoyment and gameplay experience. How much fun is it really to move across the map and sit in huge blobs waiting to relog into game? Not much, and aside from those commanders and generals and plotters and schemers to whom this stuff is a holy cause its just an imperative that is clearly on the wane and the frenzied climate of posts and analysis to the contrary highlights nothing so much as a the conflict moving from space to forum and factual to froth.

If the Goons and their friends cared enough they'd have won. But "caring enough" in this context means a far greater degree of discipline, planning, innovation and raw stubborn focus that I'm just not convinced they possess to any appropriate degree.

BOB is getting the fight they wanted and slaughtering their foes in the thousands.
RA is getting the benefit of all spotlights turned away from them.
Various hangers-on are enjoying the big blob stuff until it turns sour.
Goonswarm are seeing the ultimate goal slipping away from them and beginning to grapple with the ticklish issue of "expectation management" at the tail end of a campaign they lack the ability, drive and raw stamina to conclude.

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Quotin dis for page 9. Bummer about our goals slipping away from us like that we've been having a pretty hard time of it. Last I heard we've been pushed back to one of our stations in Delve where we're making our last stand.

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Originally by: Smith

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Originally by: Chunkymonkeyman

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Bob has tons of titans and will defend cynojammer systems. How do you take these systems!!!!?????

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You can't. In light of this fact I am willing to consider all applications for surrender. My fee to put this forward to the BOB leadership for acceptance with my approval is 10Billion isk per application.

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metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.

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Originally by: Sergeant Spot

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um, a bit slow these days it seems.....

Once again, I'll repeat the point that we've made again and again, that seems so hard for you grasp:

----BoB seeks challenging wars, epic pew pew, etc.

----BoB does stuff so we can get epic pew pew.

----THAT is BoB's "master plan"

BoB now has heaps of juicy epic pew pew.

Our plan succeeded. The regions were (and are) a tool, not an objective.

Oh, and as long as we exist, we'll do again. Every asset in Delve that I and my fellow "BoB carebears" (yes, we do exist), have busted our asses to build and develope are on the line, and we and BoB as a whole will lay them on the line AGAIN for some epic pew pew. Its what BoB does, always has done, and always will do.

BoB seeks a good fight.

Once you understand that, you understand BoB.

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Originally by: Digicomm

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That goons whine thread was so omg delicious. To paraphrase, Guys hey guys, why are we getting our asses handed to us on our strongest timezone. Were an alliance of 5000 why is bob beating us?

LOL Goons, your tears will be sweetest, pubbie emo tears always are.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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For what its worth I personally believe that cynojammers are complete game-breakers at the moment in combination with deathstar POS and are absolutely not what CCP intended them to be when the idea reached the live server. I'm hoping that cyno-jammers get a severe nerfing this year and 0.0 conquest becomes a significant prospect again and the battle lines can get moving.

That said, even if the cyno-jammers get altered I don't see Goons making much progress against BoB ever really. I think the Southern Coalition is fragile and self-interested and extremely risk-adverse and the lynch mob is losing interest in the pure scale of fighting required to compete with (let alone) best Band of Brothers at this point.

This was a war driven by hatred and vendetta and whipped up by murky accusations and general bad-behaviour all round. But the reality is Eve is a game and most people eventually "get over" these feuds and crazy self-defeating crusades and look back to their own enjoyment and gameplay experience. How much fun is it really to move across the map and sit in huge blobs waiting to relog into game? Not much, and aside from those commanders and generals and plotters and schemers to whom this stuff is a holy cause its just an imperative that is clearly on the wane and the frenzied climate of posts and analysis to the contrary highlights nothing so much as a the conflict moving from space to forum and factual to froth.

If the Goons and their friends cared enough they'd have won. But "caring enough" in this context means a far greater degree of discipline, planning, innovation and raw stubborn focus that I'm just not convinced they possess to any appropriate degree.

BOB is getting the fight they wanted and slaughtering their foes in the thousands.
RA is getting the benefit of all spotlights turned away from them.
Various hangers-on are enjoying the big blob stuff until it turns sour.
Goonswarm are seeing the ultimate goal slipping away from them and beginning to grapple with the ticklish issue of "expectation management" at the tail end of a campaign they lack the ability, drive and raw stamina to conclude.

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Originally by: TWD

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Good idea.

I suggest 3 fronts. The people in the Fountain area attack Y-2, Tortuga attacks TPAR and RSF and friends attack RKK's constellation.

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Originally by: Omeega

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let's see who should i trust, evil thug when he says that mittens is a great leader within goonies, or the sworn to secrecy guy :)

see, no one even bothered to read/quote my last posts so now i have to flame to get a space in this [Be Nice! Oveur] forum!

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Edited by: The Mittani on 05/02/2008 21:24:41

Originally by: TWD

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Good idea.

I suggest 3 fronts. The people in the Fountain area attack Y-2, Tortuga attacks TPAR and RSF and friends attack RKK's constellation.

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this one is hilarious given that it's exactly what we did and we succeeded on all fronts vOv

edit: i capitalized a letter :o

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Originally by: Flow Befort

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However load balancing does exist, it just takes time, usually 3 hours after it doesn't matter anymore =(

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Originally by: The Mittani

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anyways its clear the regions are a means to a good fight since bob has put up such a big fight for qy6 with the 10 guys in the system for the last couple of days

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Originally by: Cvuos

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Mittens you are pretty smart with Eve mechanics, can you answer me this please:

If you want a good fight, why anchor a cyno jammer? Cyno jammers prevent cap fights and cap fights is about as epic as it gets.

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Originally by: Notoreus

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Originally by: Cvuos

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Mittens you are pretty smart with Eve mechanics, can you answer me this please:

If you want a good fight, why anchor a cyno jammer? Cyno jammers prevent cap fights and cap fights is about as epic as it gets.

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The idea that this will ever be a war with an objective of good fights is ludicrous.

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Originally by: Post

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Edited by: Post on 05/02/2008 22:27:23

Originally by: Notoreus

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Originally by: Cvuos

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Mittens you are pretty smart with Eve mechanics, can you answer me this please:

If you want a good fight, why anchor a cyno jammer? Cyno jammers prevent cap fights and cap fights is about as epic as it gets.

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The idea that this will ever be a war with an objective of good fights is ludicrous.

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Where were you guys yesterday? Oh yes, letting RA caps die in an epic cap battle, then further screwing RA over by bringing in 300+ fleet so they could not warp out when they were trapped. GG, LOL.

It seems RA is Goons pet now. Loosing all their assets fighting while GOONs follow up in their indies claiming all their territory.

/pat Evil Thug
/em throws bone to Evil Thug

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