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Lucipher03
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:14:00 -
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MORE NOOBS TO SHOOT AT, WOOOOHOOOO!
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CLAM DAWN
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:15:00 -
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I don't know. The current hardware has trouble supporting the player base as it is, if putting eve on steam increases that by 15-20% it's really going to suck.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vim Edited by: Vim on 22/01/2008 22:47:34 w00t Thats acutally kinda cool if theyve made such a deal :P
edit: Long as I dont have to touch steam with a ten feet pole.
This. I will NOT install that crud on my PC.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mallikan
Originally by: ToxicFire Im pritty sure alot of people are gonna turn around and go if eve goes on Steam they'll leave eve. CCP really needs to consult with its customer base when it does things like this.
Uh.. no explanation for your opinion? Who the hell would leave just because the game is being distributed more widely???
You have to remember a large proportion of the EVE community are like rats and suffer from chronic neophobia, any changes or at the first sight of something new or different they cant understand and deal with the situation so threatening to quit and foreseeing doom places them back within their comfort zone.
Originally by: Menkaure However, I'm certainly worried about the influx of FPS-n00bs that are bound to follow with its release. :S
Every cloud has a silver lining just be happy you will get a bunch of asshat noobs who think they are gods gift to pvp to gank ----------------------------------------------- My new years resolution is to give up nonconstructive posting |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: CLAM DAWN I don't know. The current hardware has trouble supporting the player base as it is, if putting eve on steam increases that by 15-20% it's really going to suck.
Actually, it would be fun to see how the server handles 50k players. Then see what CCP decides to do about it.
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 22/01/2008 23:19:54
Originally by: ToxicFire
Originally by: McTecman To further expand on this - lots of games are available on Steam that are available otherwise and it's not mandatory for you to use Steam, since the two playerbases can play together. So stop whining.
This will probably gather some exposure and bring new blood into the game, so I'd say this is good news.
At the risk of been flamed again, here comes Jita MK2 :P
don't worry, i'm sure the constant complaints from 'vets' about 'noobs ruining eve' and how they are 'spoiling the game with the extra lag' will make any new players think twice about staying beyond the trial period.
CCP didn't want that playerbase anyway. then we can all go back to complaining that eve is dead. high-fives all round! o/\o [IMAGE REMOVED] |
ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:21:00 -
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also, steam has improved a fair bit since it was released.
NOT THAT YOU'RE EVER GOING TO HAVE TO INSTALL IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. [IMAGE REMOVED] |
Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kerdrak Oh noes... more lag
More TARGETS!
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 22/01/2008 23:25:04 The current hardware can be upgraded. You act as if they never do this. You don't remember the game with 5000 players on Sunday so you take for granted a system that handles nearly 40,000 simultaneous users. When they have 80,000 they will have upgraded further. You'll still complain.
I never have any lag but I stay out of Jita and I don't try to intentionally crash nodes with a thousand of my friends and their drones.
/makes fart noise
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire If steam is just used as another download platform thats fine but the second im forced to use steam as my connection path into eve thats where I start not liking it.
Signed.
But to all new eve-players coming from steam welcome :). --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs |
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Laboratus on 22/01/2008 23:27:02
Originally by: Malcanis ...
I will NOT install that crud on my PC.
/signed
My experience with Steam
Had it (years ago) Didn't work Problems not solved to date Some online games I had purchased moved their patches to steam only Could no longer play those games Might have as well flushed that money down the drain ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:28:00 -
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Brace for incoming whines:
OMG I GOT GANKED IN HI-SEC Wtf? 4 whole days for a skill? Trickd and killed by lofty29 HOW DO I BUY SHIPS?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Laboratus Edited by: Laboratus on 22/01/2008 23:27:02
Originally by: Malcanis ...
I will NOT install that crud on my PC.
/signed
My experience with Steam
Had it (years ago) Didn't work Problems not solved to date Some online games I had purchased moved their patches to steam only Could no longer play those games Might have as well flushed that money down the drain
Given the number of people who do successfully use steam your situation dictates that the problem is on your end. You should isolate and fix the problem instead of flushing money down the drain.
/makes fart noise
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Witchking
Minmatar British Federation Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:33:00 -
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CCP Press Release
Same as the Steam press release, but from CCP's website.
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:36:00 -
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IIWDFI If it works, dont fix it. They "fixed it" and it no longer works.
So, meh. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:41:00 -
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Maybe we'll get Achievements too!
Like UberCryBaby! for getting Kieron spilling his heart out into your inbox because he doesn't like you. Or maybe a T20! for.... well... I think you can guess.
The possiblities are unbounded. Except that.....
Running multiple steam accounts on the same PC.
You think your alt is anonymous? THAT's going to cost you another PC. And another internet connection.
They won't make it mandatory though. Can you imagine what the CCP's Chinese paymasters would think of that? -- Death of an insidious dictator Birth of a new one
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RedLion
Caldari Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:43:00 -
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Steam suck donkey balls and we all hate it!
But if it's optional and it brings more cash (thus better content) into EVE then I don't see any problems.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Laboratus Edited by: Laboratus on 22/01/2008 23:27:02
Originally by: Malcanis ...
I will NOT install that crud on my PC.
/signed
My experience with Steam
Had it (years ago) Didn't work Problems not solved to date Some online games I had purchased moved their patches to steam only Could no longer play those games Might have as well flushed that money down the drain
Given the number of people who do successfully use steam your situation dictates that the problem is on your end. You should isolate and fix the problem instead of flushing money down the drain.
Right. Because all PCs work exactly the same way with all applications and when they don't it's always for an easily-diagnosed, simply-fixed reason that's nothing to do with the software in question.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kerdrak Oh noes... more lag
This one thousand times, this.
Crazy crazy move :/
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Xaeon
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:48:00 -
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Can we expect the servers to be looked at in that case? I mean if even a small portion of people try / sign up... man, I don't even want to think about logging in on a Sunday.
Don't get me wrong, congrats to CCP, but can it cope?
Chapter VIII 14/11/07 |
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RedLion
Caldari Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:49:00 -
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It's not about using "steam" successfully, it's about you NEED to use steam for CS:S and such which makes so many people use it. Not because it's cool or well functioning.
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 22/01/2008 23:56:13
Originally by: Malcanis Right. Because all PCs work exactly the same way with all applications and when they don't it's always for an easily-diagnosed, simply-fixed reason that's nothing to do with the software in question.
You have control over your PC. You have the ability to change software, hardware, OS, everything. There is no magic or mystery to PCs. There is no PC problem that does not have a solution. There are only PC users that don't know how to find the solution or are unwilling. Unfortunately this is most people.
/makes fart noise
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus Edited by: Alowishus on 22/01/2008 23:56:13
Originally by: Malcanis Right. Because all PCs work exactly the same way with all applications and when they don't it's always for an easily-diagnosed, simply-fixed reason that's nothing to do with the software in question.
You have control over your PC. You have the ability to change software, hardware, OS, everything. There is no magic or mystery to PCs. There is no PC problem that does not have a solution. There are only PC users that don't know how to find the solution or are unwilling. Unfortunately this is most people.
Cmon everyone thats even developed the tiniest bit of software knows that you can never duplicate the environment a piece of software is developed on unless its the exact same system with the exact same data stored in the exact same position at the exact same time. Yes you can get close but even systems in the same office can have issues with the same software sometimes ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:58:00 -
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I remember way back when Counterstrike first got added to Steam it asked me for my CD key and then told me it was the wrong one. Even though it was the same key and CD that I'd used to install the thing some months before, there was no workaround for the issue that I ever figured out (granted I wasn't quite as computer savvy then.)
Then years later I got CS Source and never had any problems with Steam, so I could care less if Eve gets added to the Steam network. Of course on the other hand, as it's been said, if it brought in an influx of new Eve players before the Eve servers get an update, we will potentially experience more lag for awhile.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus Edited by: Alowishus on 22/01/2008 23:56:13
Originally by: Malcanis Right. Because all PCs work exactly the same way with all applications and when they don't it's always for an easily-diagnosed, simply-fixed reason that's nothing to do with the software in question.
You have control over your PC. You have the ability to change software, hardware, OS, everything. There is no magic or mystery to PCs. There is no PC problem that does not have a solution. There are only PC users that don't know how to find the solution or are unwilling. Unfortunately this is most people.
Your trust is refreshing, but your naivete is disturbing.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ToxicFire Im pritty sure alot of people are gonna turn around and go if eve goes on Steam they'll leave eve. CCP really needs to consult with its customer base when it does things like this.
Er...if EVE going on Steam will make you quit, you probably shouldn't be playing EVE anyway.
Actually Steam is a great service. NoCD patch, just require an internet connection running.
Should I unsubscribe to profit ? 2isk
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Salvis Tallan
Gallente The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.23 00:00:00 -
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Quick! Everyone get to the starting systems to 'welcome' all the new players with free cans of loot! ------
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.23 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ToxicFire Im pritty sure alot of people are gonna turn around and go if eve goes on Steam they'll leave eve. CCP really needs to consult with its customer base when it does things like this.
Er...if EVE going on Steam will make you quit, you probably shouldn't be playing EVE anyway.
Actually Steam is a great service. NoCD patch, just require an internet connection running.
Should I unsubscribe to profit ?
Old post read a few post down where I surrender and say I may have been wrong ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.23 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Salvis Tallan Quick! Everyone get to the starting systems to 'welcome' all the new players with free cans of loot!
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire
Originally by: Alowishus Edited by: Alowishus on 22/01/2008 23:56:13
Originally by: Malcanis Right. Because all PCs work exactly the same way with all applications and when they don't it's always for an easily-diagnosed, simply-fixed reason that's nothing to do with the software in question.
You have control over your PC. You have the ability to change software, hardware, OS, everything. There is no magic or mystery to PCs. There is no PC problem that does not have a solution. There are only PC users that don't know how to find the solution or are unwilling. Unfortunately this is most people.
Cmon everyone thats even developed the tiniest bit of software knows that you can never duplicate the environment a piece of software is developed on unless its the exact same system with the exact same data stored in the exact same position at the exact same time. Yes you can get close but even systems in the same office can have issues with the same software sometimes
With an ap like Steam that works for the majority of people you don't need to duplicate the environment the software was developed on, you don't even have to get close. The fact is that if the software is working for 99% of the users it's up to the 1% to find out what they're doing wrong and fix it. Not everything is going to be 100% compatible, even if you think it's up to the vendor to make it so. You may just have to change something if you really want to the software and it's up to you to figure out what. If you choose not to do this then you can't simply say, "it doesn't work, it's crap."
Any time I am dealing with someone who can't get a simple program to work, one that everyone else uses, nine times out of ten I find their PC to be a ****** to death burning pile of kaka that has a million viruses a registry like swiss cheese and is otherwised totally pwned.
/makes fart noise
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