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McTecman
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ogul Have they stopped the "you need to be connected to play an offline game"-madness at some point? Because that was what prevented me from buying Half Life 2 at the time...
Yeah, Offline mode actually works now.
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Kitarie II
Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:10:00 -
[122]
imho, this is a smart move. it distributes eve on a way broader level than before.
about the "cs kiddies" that will flood the server: do you honestly believe this will be the game they are looking for? cs is designed to be fast and repetitive. is that what eve is? no. skill trainings take long and before you can wtfpwnlulz solo anyone you have to invest quite some time... i believe that the typical cs player will last about 3 hours on the server, get bored and switch back to his fav game. --- My Videos: Noob on tour I Noob on tour II - not final |

Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:17:00 -
[123]
Awesome \o/
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:34:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Malcanis ...
Chance of steam causing me a lot of aggravation: low but significant Benefits of installing steam to me: zero.
This. Is the truth. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |

Zeonos
Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:38:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Zeonos on 23/01/2008 10:41:23 as long as i don't have to start steam etc when ever i want to play eve, I'm cool with it. I'm not a huge fan of steam, have had many times where steam just wouldn't start, and that means that 25+ games (single as well as multiplayer) couldn't be played until a fix was found. and steam is so slow sometimes, so eve, keep your own servers! cause 2mb/s download owns!
Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
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Zeonos
Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ogul Have they stopped the "you need to be connected to play an offline game"-madness at some point? Because that was what prevented me from buying Half Life 2 at the time...
nope, you have to enter EVERY single game on your steam list after a fresh install, in order to open offline mode... (25games+ go go...)
Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
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Oniko Sengir
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:49:00 -
[127]
\o/ well I'm excited.
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Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Snake Assault
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:24:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Kitarie II about the "cs kiddies" that will flood the server: do you honestly believe this will be the game they are looking for?
Whether it's the game they're looking for or not doesn't bother me. Whether they're CS kiddies or not doesn't bother me, either. What does bother me, though, is that having more people log onto the server will do two nasty things to you: More "queue for login" screens, and more importantly, more lag.
There's no way CCP can ramp up their servers in time to handle the likely increased growth if they can't offer lag-reduced servers right now.
Sure, I'd love to see more players as they mean more targets, but all the targets in the world won't help if you can't get a lock on them under 2 minutes, let alone get your ship to turn that way within the same time frame.
Furthermore, I'm pretty much anti-Steam, but that stems from years ago when it definitely was a pile of slow, buggy, data-sniffing junk. This may have changed, but I still resent Valve for introducing Steam.
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Rheinkraft
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:27:00 -
[129]
The big question is will the server handle a faster rise in new users.... If it cant handle it now then opening the flood gates is a bad idea imo.
Under The Black Flag Est 2004
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Blosphere
Malicious Intentions The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:34:00 -
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This might also be a stealth nerf to macroers and bots creating accounts.
Maybe this is that CCP just outsourced their automatic billing system because it couldn't cope or they couldn't make it nasty enough to catch bots making accounts with stolen credit cards (=big problem, killing such accounts costs money to CCP and doesn't bring any in).
If this is true, I'm more than happy to see diminishing amount of bots spamming channels and gold farmers while having to use Steam to launch the game. --
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Lindsay Fox
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:36:00 -
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Wow, you can really tell who the glass-half-full/glass-half-empty people are around here. I think this is probably the best thing to happen to Eve since, well...ever. There may (will) be teething problems, the server may gag, but things will settle and we will have a much more interesting universe to live in.
Can't see any downside, myself.
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:43:00 -
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Yup, we're coming to Steam shortly, just another step in our plans for world domination. 
Wrangler Community Manager CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:48:00 -
[133]
oh wait, its January 
but why use such primitive power sources such as steam?
oh wait, vagabonds run on steam...
STEAM HO!!!!!!!!!
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Melor Rend
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:57:00 -
[134]
I detest Steam, Vivendi and computer games that require me to run effing thrid party spyware-clients to be able to login...
I'm totally against this change!!!
Epic fail, worst idea since NGE imho....  
Please don't do it... I won't be accepting any EULAs for steam so either give us a non-steam version of EVE or run the risk of loosing customers that don't agree with the big-brother mode like in other steam titles such as HL2 (read the EULA and what they use your personal info for... nice way to collect statistical data while I play.... no thanks mates!)
I'd rather see CCP being sold to SoE (ie. EVE dying) then working together with Vivendi/Valve.... bad bad bad 
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McAltyalty
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:14:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Melor Rend I detest Steam, Vivendi and computer games that require me to run effing thrid party spyware-clients to be able to login...
I'm totally against this change!!!
Epic fail, worst idea since NGE imho....  
Please don't do it... I won't be accepting any EULAs for steam so either give us a non-steam version of EVE or run the risk of loosing customers that don't agree with the big-brother mode like in other steam titles such as HL2 (read the EULA and what they use your personal info for... nice way to collect statistical data while I play.... no thanks mates!)
I'd rather see CCP being sold to SoE (ie. EVE dying) then working together with Vivendi/Valve.... bad bad bad 
Have you not read anything? And where did they say they would require Steam? Logical deduction is your friend sir, I'm betting theres a 99% chance that they will not require Steam for all the users. The people that dl and purchase Eve from Steam however might be forced to use it, but in that case only those that are willing to use Steam are forced to use it.
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Caiman Graystock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:15:00 -
[136]
Great news for CCP, this will surely raise EVE's profile. Just promise us you'll never force us to use Steam to log in to the game, otherwise I'm happy to see a new distrobution platform which has a pool of potentially millions of new users.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:21:00 -
[137]
Although I use Steam for other games, I'd rather be able to keep logging in to EVE without Steam. Hopefully this is how it'll work.
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Nova Satar
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:34:00 -
[138]
More stress to an obviously already stressed hardware architecture 
(no flame tards, not the steam element, the extra exposure, every man and his dog signining up, omgwft 60k people on a hardware architecture that cant handle what is has now type stress)
I like steam, i dont like this move tho, only time will tell how long it takes for it to bite ccp..
Notice the lag lately ??? and how it seems to, on a daily basis, be getting worse ?? the longer than usual downtimes (sure there meant to be an hour, but up until recently they been 15-25 mins early..a sign prehaps ??)
oh well maybe someone will break something, and lots of people will quit (gving me there stuff first of course) and i can once again travel through jita, saila, aramachi, motsu...without the 5 min lag spikes...that is of course if i ever go back to empire
carry on children
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:44:00 -
[139]
Edited by: ToxicFire on 23/01/2008 12:44:06
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Yup, we're coming to Steam shortly, just another step in our plans for world domination. 
Nominated for most useless post ever :P
Would ya care to elaborate more than the press release, will steam be a required part of the new architecture, or will steam be simply an ADDITIONAL download and marketing platform having this kind of information will stop people having knee-jerk reactions over this like I did earlier in the thread. ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Tyleritus
The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:46:00 -
[140]
Originally by: ToxicFire Edited by: ToxicFire on 23/01/2008 12:44:06
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Yup, we're coming to Steam shortly, just another step in our plans for world domination. 
Nominated for most useless post ever :P
Would ya care to elaborate more than the press release, will steam be a required part of the new architecture, or will steam be simply an ADDITIONAL download and marketing platform having this kind of information will stop people having knee-jerk reactions over this like I did earlier in the thread.
What He Said The Coalition Of Bucaneers Are Recruiting
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Dred Tather
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Melor Rend I detest Steam, Vivendi and computer games that require me to run effing thrid party spyware-clients to be able to login...
I'm totally against this change!!!
Epic fail, worst idea since NGE imho....  
Please don't do it... I won't be accepting any EULAs for steam so either give us a non-steam version of EVE or run the risk of loosing customers that don't agree with the big-brother mode like in other steam titles such as HL2 (read the EULA and what they use your personal info for... nice way to collect statistical data while I play.... no thanks mates!)
I'd rather see CCP being sold to SoE (ie. EVE dying) then working together with Vivendi/Valve.... bad bad bad 
I guess you have never used steam then. Steam, unlike a lot of content delivery platforms does it RIGHT. Zero spyware, great bandwidth and plenty of games. That and a really awesome community system they have implemented. There are zero adverts bar theirs on the store page, (which is allowed as its a shop after all) and overall if your system is running trinity or eve well as of late, you wont see a performance hit. steam nowadays uses about 20mb of ram. That's really not bad for a content delivery platform. I'd trust valve with being able to deliver the game, and hope it helps EVE rise even further. [url=http://rkkb.casx.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39756] [/url] |

Paulson
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:55:00 -
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I quite like this update. Makes my life easier as I can associate my Eve with my Steam account (I practically live in both when online) and it will make life easier for reinstallations as I upgrade quite often.
Also the extra revenue from new players will be able to go toward the next big hardware upgrade so eve can be made to handle more players.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marlenus Edited by: Marlenus on 23/01/2008 07:00:20 More newbies?
More people mining in destroyers and cruisers, who think "helpless hauler flashing red, I'll shoot it with my rocket launcher" when they see an Ironfleet salvage vessel?
What's not to like?
But seriously folks, some of you sound like old farts complaining that somebody is letting kids steal your prune juice. Without regular influxes of new players, EVE will wither up and die. The STEAM deal is great news for anybody who hopes to still be playing this game a few years out.
Me, I'm coming up on two years in the game. I just bought my first HAC. I'm finally getting enough skills to be (a little bit) dangerous (by empire-hugger standards). I love love love the idea of a bunch of new players.
One of the ways online games begin to die is when all of the players are diehards who know exactly how to do everything. Then nobody ever does anything unexpected. Newbies are unpredictable and prone to doing spectacularly crazy stuff, bringing wealth and amusement to everyone around them.
It's good news. Seriously good news.
QFT !
CyberGh0st aka Cyberwiz aka Mentakh Active @ EvE Online Retired @ DAoC / UO / WoW / SWG / LOTRO / Diablo I - II / Planetside / Entropia / Lineage / Guildwars / EQ |

Laboratus
Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Laboratus on 23/01/2008 13:05:43 Meh.
All my experience with steam have been negative, and after they orange box incident I'm done with valve. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |

Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Snake Assault
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:57:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Dred Tather I guess you have never used steam then. Steam, unlike a lot of content delivery platforms does it RIGHT. Zero spyware, ... [stuff]
Have you ever used Steam?
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:03:00 -
[146]
Ugh. Please say using steam will be optional. --
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:04:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Paulson Also the extra revenue from new players will be able to go toward the next big hardware upgrade so eve can be made to handle more players.
Sorry i have to say this because it keeps cropping up, Do you honestly think CCP is so short of cash that they're unable to upgrade the the hardware. Also there's a time delay after a large portion of new players join and CCP decides and what specs the new hardware needs to be built to, im not trying to be negative but the problem of growth and its demand on the servers is hard to predict so its extremely hard for ccp to decide what hardware and when to deploy it. ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Witchking
Minmatar British Federation Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Yup, we're coming to Steam shortly, just another step in our plans for world domination. 
Apart from this single one line from a CCP Employee, don't you think the current player base desevres a more in depth explanation of this partnership with Steam, answereing some of the points raised in this thread ?
wk.
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:06:00 -
[149]
Originally by: ToxicFire
Originally by: Paulson Also the extra revenue from new players will be able to go toward the next big hardware upgrade so eve can be made to handle more players.
Sorry i have to say this because it keeps cropping up, Do you honestly think CCP is so short of cash that they're unable to upgrade the the hardware. Also there's a time delay after a large portion of new players join and CCP decides and what specs the new hardware needs to be built to, im not trying to be negative but the problem of growth and its demand on the servers is hard to predict so its extremely hard for ccp to decide what hardware and when to deploy it.
Well, the other thing being that they are already working on their next server upgrade: Infiniband support.
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MOZO
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 23/01/2008 13:13:00
Originally by: Witchking ...don't you think the current player base desevres a more in depth explanation of this partnership with Steam...
I don't. You get exactly what you deserve, an account and the ability to log in. In-depth discussions about the details of upcoming business decisions are normally reserved for stakeholders.
Quote: ...answereing some of the points raised in this thread ?
We've already answered it for you, but you're not listening. The points raised are dumb, and the people whining on this thread are acting like Chicken Little.
-- They didn't say everyone will be forced to use Steam for EVE, they said they'll be offering EVE via Steam. Also, if you look at the track record for games offered on Steam, 99% of them are also downloadable elsewhere, just like EVE is now. Only Valve games REQUIRE Steam to play them.
-- Whining about additional server lag just straight up doesn't deserve an answer. ________________
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