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Avera Mikou	Posted - 2008.01.23 06:20:00 - [1] 6x heavy w/ EM/thermal 1x med nos 1x med neutralizer 1x mwd 1x invul field 1x shield booster 1x passive targeter 1x warp disrupter 1x ship scanner 2x inertial stabs 2x PDS 574.4/603.75 cpu 1116 / 1171.41 power Note that drake has innate resist all as well. The idea is to take advantage of not needing cap to do damage...hit them with the neutralizer quickly, then drain just enough back to run what I need to keep it going, since my weapons wont need it. I'm also thinking about swapping the inertial stabs for a couple BCS to further increase my DPS I haven't tested this yet, but I probably have too many things that require cap for this to work too well. I could try swapping the neutralizer for another nos, but that also nullifies my major attack strategy. I would definitely drop the invulnerability for a large shield ext. but I just dont have the power to do that yet.
deathbyfire Gallente the united Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.23 06:36:00 - [2] not to be rude but my deimos could pop that before you hit armor you have a horrid tank >.< drakes are good for their passive tanks
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.23 06:36:00 - [3] drop the ship scanner, passive targeter, and shield booster.....instead fit large shield extenders T2 or best named x2 and a shield power realy or shield recharger keep the invul though make it a t2 if your skills permit...bank on how awesome the passive shield tank can be on a drake plus you don't want to be running a booster with a neut. With the neut try to only engage cruiser size or smaller as most bc's will have cap boosters, thus your getting into web range for nothing. And really you should drop the NOS for another launcher for more DPS. Also if your planning on flying solo some ecm drones wouldn't hurt aswell. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Moo Master Caldari Yarrrateers Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.23 06:38:00 - [4] Drop the nos for another heavy launcher. Grab some kin missiles too (drakes have a bonus to them). Get the ship scanner and the passive targeter off now. They are crap. Replace them with an invuln and a cap injector. istabs on a drake?? yes, switch them off for bcs's. All that should make your ship half-decent. ---------------------------------------------- Violence is not the answer. It is the question. The answer is yes.
flakko	Posted - 2008.01.23 06:38:00 - [5] I think ur putting to may roles in that drake that it puts it as useless if u fight someone who knows how fit there ship properly. If ur willing to spend 100mill u can t2 fit it. (passive tankign with rigs) but from ur post it seems ur going solo. I say u put 2 BCS, 2PDS 2 L shield extender, 1 L shield Booster, Med Cap booster with 400's, 1 Invul, and a warp scrambler. 3 standard missile launcher, 4 heavys an a med NOS. I got 604/656.25 cpu 1143/1171.41 Choose either passive tank or active. dont give it too many roles or u will most likely fail alone. well hope this set up work if u get a better one then even better good luck in ur career. just remeber not to kill me
Avera Mikou	Posted - 2008.01.23 07:22:00 - [6] Edited by: Avera Mikou on 23/01/2008 07:22:47 I love passive tanking in my drake, but its hard to get passive tank regen of 100+ with pvp gear on :/ I guess I have to train a lot more skills.
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2008.01.23 07:48:00 - [7] Can I suggest you change on tiny little thing? The modules... PAK is recruiting!
Ghost Nightmare Dark Excession Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.23 11:57:00 - [8] People Pirate in a drake? bloody hell Get a brutix mate
Yonneh Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:03:00 - [9] Yeh, change just about everything.. Well, no, keep using missiles thats a good start.
Niffetin Gallente Omni Research	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Ghost Nightmare People Pirate in a drake? bloody hell Get a brutix mate Noobs pirate in Drakes. --- Teeheee!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Ghost Nightmare People Pirate in a drake? bloody hell Get a brutix mate no, absolutely not, everyone should be flying gallente although drakes do go lolsentries
Ghost Nightmare Dark Excession Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:10:00 - [12] No denying that, lol drakes are evil bloody ships, ive seen ones that tank gank megas, nothing more embarressing then being tanked by a battlecrusier , when a raven barely lasts 30 seconds against you then again, thats passive tank Active tanking a drake is like having sex with your mother, YOU DONT F***ING DO IT!
Yonneh Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:11:00 - [13] A Brutix with T2 Ion's, Armor rigs and Mag fields can beat the lolsentries drake. Honest..
Ghost Nightmare Dark Excession Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Yonneh A Brutix with T2 Ion's, Armor rigs and Mag fields can beat the lolsentries drake. Honest.. LIES! :P Drakes make raptor jesus cry
The Tzar	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:45:00 - [15] I like the way someone has said that their deimos would beat OP's drake setup..., perhaps compare like with like. Deimos would not be able to scratch a tanked drake. Try this if you really want to pirate in a drake solo:- 7 x Heavy Missile Launcher II (CN Scourge) 1 x 10MN MWD II 1 x Warp Scrambler II 1 x Stasis Webifier II 1 x Invul Field II 2 x Large Shield Extender 1 x BCU II 1 x DCU II 2 x PDS II 5 x Hobgoblin II 1 x EM Shield Resist Rig 1 x Kinetic Shield Resist Rig 1 x Thermal Shield Resist Rig. Rarely to people expect to see tackle fitted on a drake so use tactics to snare people in. Sit maybe 50km off a belt, pretending to rat whilst aligned in case of recon attacks. Target warps in, start moving away from them without MWD at first whilst spamming with missiles. When they close to about 30km, fire up the MWD and continue to spam. By this time you should have made a fairly decent dent in targets tank, try and keep you target out of web but in scram range. If you get webbed, web target as well and flick on invul. With over 14K shield with resists all over 75%, very few ships in the same or lower class will be able to take you down without getting popped themselves. Works for me!
Yonneh Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:49:00 - [16] Edited by: Yonneh on 23/01/2008 12:49:52 Originally by: Ghost Nightmare Originally by: Yonneh A Brutix with T2 Ion's, Armor rigs and Mag fields can beat the lolsentries drake. Honest.. LIES! :P Drakes make raptor jesus cry Rwar! Its TRUE, I'll gladly prove it
Susa Ou	Posted - 2008.01.23 13:26:00 - [17] lows: 3 things, your choise of combination - shield relay (passive tank), BCU (more damage), PDU (a little more of everything). Mids: 2 choises, active = sheild booster, shield boost amp and cap booster, passve = shield rechargers and LSEs; in either case get some hardeners. Highs: Heavy Missle Launchers with Cal Navy. Scourge. there THe drake is an extremely easy ship to setup, quite frankly I am shocked you did not get it right perhaps someday you will do this http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=688726
Shinoe DeValo Caldari Rivaad Holdings and Investments	Posted - 2008.01.23 13:29:00 - [18] Hmmmm I'm at work and can't check it, but it just came to my mind: the Drake get's both heavy and HAM bonuses, now if I need to get into scramble range anyway, why not use HAMs for better DPS instead of heavys?
Gypsio III Darkness Inc. Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.23 13:33:00 - [19] Quote: Noobs pirate in Drakes. Lolz. But hey, the more clueless noobs that think so, the better. The last Deimos that I fought in my Drake got me to 81% shield before dying horribly. The "LOL WTF?" comment in local amused me though.
William DeMeo Gallente the united Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.23 13:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Ghost Nightmare People Pirate in a drake? bloody hell Get a brutix mate Noobs pirate in Drakes. Wrong. Yarr
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.23 14:13:00 - [21] Originally by: flakko I think ur putting to may roles in that drake that it puts it as useless if u fight someone who knows how fit there ship properly. If ur willing to spend 100mill u can t2 fit it. (passive tankign with rigs) but from ur post it seems ur going solo. I say u put 2 BCS, 2PDS 2 L shield extender, 1 L shield Booster, Med Cap booster with 400's, 1 Invul, and a warp scrambler. 3 standard missile launcher, 4 heavys an a med NOS. I got 604/656.25 cpu 1143/1171.41 Choose either passive tank or active. dont give it too many roles or u will most likely fail alone. well hope this set up work if u get a better one then even better good luck in ur career. just remeber not to kill me What the hell is this?! Shield boosting with shield extenders? Like you said - choose passive tank or active tank. No propulsion to maintain tackle? 3 STANDARD missile launchers - on a DRAKE?! OP - Tzar has a decent pvp setup. If you search - Gyspio also has some decent setups in ships&modules. Drakes are heavy and slow shield tankers, with limited power grid. This limits your ability to tackle (speed - scram) AND tank, AND spew out DPS. There are a few philosophies for pvp drakes. Either go with a passive tank, and fit a scram and some propulsion and lob heavy missiles like tzar pointed out. If you're in a gang, you can fit some EWAR in your tank slots and count on the fact you won't be primary, so you can do some unexpected ewar for your gang for an initial surprise. If you want all out DPS - go with heavy assaults - a MWD and tackle and a crap active tank because you have no grid. If you shell out some isk, you can fit a decent drake that spews out HAM damage and has the grid for a decent tank. Ignore people who laugh at pvp drakes - they CAN be done, just requires some extra thought on working around the Drake's mass. Also - don't forget drones! Caldari boats are greatly augmented by logistics or E-war drones. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Jaini Hotori	Posted - 2008.01.23 16:48:00 - [22] drake pvp lol
Avera Mikou	Posted - 2008.01.23 16:56:00 - [23] Tzar, what is the rationale behind using a stasis webifier? Already with a MWD I would think you should be able to keep inside scrambler range..and slowing them down is a waste of effort because ship speed has a very small effect on missile damage (for eg, a differential of 500 gives only 10% damage boost). I've already got engineering V but since you all recommend passive tanking, I'm pushing for upgrades V as well to help with the fitting of those large extenders. I just wish there was something to cut down on the power requirement of those launchers.
Gypsio III Darkness Inc. Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:28:00 - [24] Web on a Drake is absolutely essential imo. Otherwise people will just MWD away from you. And there's plenty of idiot Vaga pilots out there for you to surprise.
Nuclear Warrior	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Avera Mikou I just wish there was something to cut down on the power requirement of those launchers. Advanced weapon upgrades?
Alia Xi Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.23 19:18:00 - [26] mmmmmm passive tanked drakes
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.23 19:20:00 - [27] Don't forget the cloak () () (â;..;)â (")(")
MITSUK0	Posted - 2008.01.23 19:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Gypsio III Web on a Drake is absolutely essential imo. Otherwise people will just MWD away from you. And there's plenty of idiot Vaga pilots out there for you to surprise. I frikken hate webbing HAM drakes... 80k+ hit points, decent dps and full tackle :argh:

CCP Mitnal	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:25:00 - [29] Moved to ships and modules. Mitnal, Community Representative EVE Online CCP Games Email/Netfang

Haradgrim The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:35:00 - [30] Edited by: Haradgrim on 23/01/2008 20:36:23 Those who think the Drake can't pvp do not know. 7 x HAMS + 10mn MWD II + BCUS + Decent buffer tank + Shield Rigs = PWNAGE! YARR!!111oneleventyone! Edit: forgot + webber, Yarr! Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed

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