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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:04:00 -
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How to determine if your corp/alliance is indeed a pirate corp: find out how many characters are in said corp/alliance. Examine their security status and determine how many of those characters are -10 (for this exercise -9.9999 will suffice).
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
As you were.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:20:00 -
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:(
Im only -9.999
 Originally by: Viator Pilot
Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
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Templer Relleg
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:20:00 -
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How so?
I dont think THAT many people are actually -9.999. Why? Rats on gates.
If you take out a gang with ceptors and the like, your ceptors will get screwed over if you sit at a gate. So you kill those rats, thus increasing your sec status by a bit.
So getting to -9.999 is hard. I think im like -9.96 or so. So by your definition, im not a pirate.
Also, i think it was said at FanFest, that only 6 pilots was truely -10. So for your index to work, you should rather set the bar at -8(Maybe 9, as 9 isnt THAT hard to get to) or so.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:23:00 -
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I say it should be anyhting less than -9, because as other have said...rats on gates etc, hell we even have to pop mission rats from time to time to keep our ransomee alive 
anyways, my corp is a Pirate Corp
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Templer Relleg
How so?
I dont think THAT many people are actually -9.999. Why? Rats on gates.
If you take out a gang with ceptors and the like, your ceptors will get screwed over if you sit at a gate. So you kill those rats, thus increasing your sec status by a bit.
So getting to -9.999 is hard. I think im like -9.96 or so. So by your definition, im not a pirate.
Also, i think it was said at FanFest, that only 6 pilots was truely -10. So for your index to work, you should rather set the bar at -8(Maybe 9, as 9 isnt THAT hard to get to) or so.
Ok, I wasn't that clear. My intent wasn't to say that you have to be -10 to be a real pirate, just have reasonably low sec status. Heck, let's call it -9.0 or less.
I just think that it's absurd to consider any corp with the majority of their players having higher sec status than -9 or so 'pirates'.
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Inertial
Blood Reavers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Inertial on 23/01/2008 07:30:41
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
How to determine if your corp/alliance is indeed a pirate corp: find out how many characters are in said corp/alliance. Examine their security status and determine how many of those characters are -10 (for this exercise -9.9999 will suffice).
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
As you were.
Lol, I didn't know pirating had anything to do with stats at all.
Quote:
Noun
pirate (plural: pirates)
1. One who plunders at sea; commonly attacking merchant vessels, though often pillaging port towns.
2. (Internet) One who reproduces copyright....
Quote:
Noun
Singular
piracy
Plural
countable and uncountable; piracies
piracy (countable and uncountable; plural piracies)
1. (nautical) Robbery at sea; taking a ship away from the control of those who are legally entitled to it.
2. A similar act of robbery, such as hijacking of an aircraft.
3. The unauthorized duplication of goods protec...
Doesn't say anything about sec status in the dictionary.
Here is the wikipedia definition of piracy:
Quote:
Maritime piracy, according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) of 1982, consists of any criminal acts of violence, detention, or depredation committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or aircraft that is directed on the high seas against another ship, aircraft, or against persons or property on board a ship or aircraft. Piracy can also be committed against a ship, aircraft, persons, or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any state.
Now piracy is a act. A pirate would be a person who commits the act of piracy. A pirate ship would be any ships manned by pirates (Edited after reading the dictionary). A pirate corp would be a corp thats main function would be to organise and commit acts of piracy.
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Templer Relleg
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Ok, I wasn't that clear. My intent wasn't to say that you have to be -10 to be a real pirate, just have reasonably low sec status. Heck, let's call it -9.0 or less.
I just think that it's absurd to consider any corp with the majority of their players having higher sec status than -9 or so 'pirates'.
I get your point.
But isnt it more appropiate to call it an outlaw corp then? You can easily have a -9 standing across all in the corp. But isnt the term pirate used to describe people who ransom their victims? You can have a +2 standing, and ransom people, too!
The general outline of what your saying i think is good. Its just the wording really. Yet, you cant really judge people from the average sec status.
You need hauler alts aswell.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Inertial
stuff
Let me guess: your corp does something other than pirate in low sec? Flying around in 0.0? Empire wars perhaps? High sec ganking?
IMO the defining pedigree in Eve for being a pirate is having extremely low (-9.0 or less) sec status.
Anything else and you're just a hooligan or petty brigand.
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Arekhon
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:33:00 -
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@ Inertial,
We (general C&P public) have been around and around on the forums as to the "definition" of piracy. If the man (op) wants to have only people/corps with avg sec of -9 or less post here then so be it and at least respect the man's post instead of starting a 2 page tirade on what a 1000 people think the definition of piracy is.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Arekhon
@ Inertial,
We (general C&P public) have been around and around on the forums as to the "definition" of piracy. If the man (op) wants to have only people/corps with avg sec of -9 or less post here then so be it and at least respect the man's post instead of starting a 2 page tirade on what a 1000 people think the definition of piracy is.
The funny thing is (to me) Arekhon- I only posted this because I'm really bored (still looking for targets lol) and C&P has been kinda stale lately, so a good solid argument about some undefinable subject was in order.
But yeah, go big or go home, -10 all the way! Yarrr.
Bellum Eternus
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:45:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Arekhon
@ Inertial,
We (general C&P public) have been around and around on the forums as to the "definition" of piracy. If the man (op) wants to have only people/corps with avg sec of -9 or less post here then so be it and at least respect the man's post instead of starting a 2 page tirade on what a 1000 people think the definition of piracy is.
The funny thing is (to me) Arekhon- I only posted this because I'm really bored (still looking for targets lol) and C&P has been kinda stale lately, so a good solid argument about some undefinable subject was in order.
But yeah, go big or go home, -10 all the way! Yarrr.
well ok then
I however will just step aside and watch, as I can't be arsed to argue this point anymore. Though tbh I would really like to see a list of corps with avg sec status -9 or less.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:47:00 -
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who cares if you are "officially" a pirate, especially when some random nobody is the one judging?
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Inertial
Doesn't say anything about sec status in the dictionary.
Here is the wikipedia definition of piracy:
Quote:
Maritime piracy, according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) of 1982, consists of any criminal acts of violence, detention, or depredation committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or aircraft that is directed on the high seas against another ship, aircraft, or against persons or property on board a ship or aircraft. Piracy can also be committed against a ship, aircraft, persons, or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any state.
Now piracy is a act. A pirate would be a person who commits the act of piracy. A pirate ship would be any ships manned by pirates (Edited after reading the dictionary). A pirate corp would be a corp thats main function would be to organise and commit acts of piracy.
and if those peeps were playing eve they would have a negative sec status eventually reaching
-9.???
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
who cares if you are "officially" a pirate, especially when some random nobody is the one judging?
LOL. I didn't expect the personal attacks to start so early, but allllrighty then! That really hurts, especially coming from such a catamite as yourself.
Bellum Eternus
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Kehmor
who cares if you are "officially" a pirate, especially when some random nobody is the one judging?
LOL. I didn't expect the personal attacks to start so early, but allllrighty then! That really hurts, especially coming from such a catamite as yourself.
uhm do you even know what "catamite" means, or did you just want a fancy word? Either way it doesn't really fit in with your retort as i've probably been playing the game longer than you? (not logged in so cba to check)
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:09:00 -
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lol
Epic trolling
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Inertial
Blood Reavers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Inertial
stuff
Let me guess: your corp does something other than pirate in low sec? Flying around in 0.0? Empire wars perhaps? High sec ganking?
IMO the defining pedigree in Eve for being a pirate is having extremely low (-9.0 or less) sec status.
Anything else and you're just a hooligan or petty brigand.
Heh, I had to look up the word pedigree.
Anyways. I would say that the defining pedigree in EVE for being a pirate is that you commit piracy, and piracy would be attacking someone for personal gain, or like I quoted:
Quote:
...acts of violence, detention, or depredation committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or aircraft ...
There can be several reasons for someone to have a low sec status. Some people attack their enemies everywhere they can. I know of several Foundation members who had extremely low sec status.
As to your guess: My corps main intention is low sec piracy, but we are considering doing some empire wars, some 0.0 raiding, some other things. I got a alt that I am training towards HACs now (he is a couple of months older than my current main :P), who I will use in high-sec wars/hauling etc.
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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Kehmor
who cares if you are "officially" a pirate, especially when some random nobody is the one judging?
LOL. I didn't expect the personal attacks to start so early, but allllrighty then! That really hurts, especially coming from such a catamite as yourself.
uhm do you even know what "catamite" means, or did you just want a fancy word? Either way it doesn't really fit in with your retort as i've probably been playing the game longer than you? (not logged in so cba to check)
I know exactly what it means. Go google it if you're confused. Character age has nothing to do with anything.
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:15:00 -
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Bellum: Born 2005.11.20 03:50
Kehmor: Born 2003.12.01 18:47
Ursula LeGuinn: 2007.12.12 21:27 <----- WINNAR \o/
To be fair though, I'm a returning player.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ursula LeGuinn
Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 23/01/2008 08:18:49
Bellum: Born 2005.11.20 03:50
Kehmor: Born 2003.12.01 18:47
Ursula LeGuinn: 2007.12.12 21:27 <----- WINNAR \o/
To be fair though, I'm a returning player.
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Character age has nothing to do with anything.
Yeah, there's a guy in our corp whose character was born a week after the game released.
He just reactivated his account a few weeks ago.
BUT! Don't take that statement to mean I don't see your overall point, which is that playing the game longer doesn't necessarily mean you're better, wiser, richer, etc.
I think he's referring to my use of the word 'catamite' and the implications it has with respect to someone's age.
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Havoc G
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:29:00 -
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Im -10 
but whatever, didnt even read it all 
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:30:00 -
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Ok so now the definition of being a pirate is to "Tactically gimp yourself".. nice.
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hellsknights
RennTech
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:50:00 -
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Well "piracy" does not mean you have to be -10 or negative at all.
There are all kinds of "piracy" you can use the wardec system to complete acts of piracy without losing sec.
But i get what the OP'er is saying, it's all about the outlaw status.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:07:00 -
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Bell can i have a special prize cause i think were all -10
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:09:00 -
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I'm just a hoodlum flying in a hoodlum corp. We commit acts of piracy though.
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Niffetin
Gallente
Omni Research
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:14:00 -
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But how close are you ACTUALLY to -10? 
(securityRating:-9.9999999999999964)
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Gradinger
Todmacher
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:18:00 -
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where do i get my "I'm a Pirate" - badge?
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Belial Tempter
Amarr
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Belial Tempter on 23/01/2008 09:43:32
OK, I know it's kinda OT, but seeing as I had to look up catamite, I thought I'd share the result for my fellow thicko's 
A catamite is the younger partner in a pederastic relationship between two males and was a popular arrangement in the ancient world, especially ancient Rome
So there you go....sorry, carry on. 
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Atreides Horza
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Atreides Horza on 23/01/2008 09:57:58
Funny... Our sec status average is currently around -3.0, and I think you'd be able to find a fair few people who are willing to testify that we are indeed pirates.
On the other hand, I could point towards a nice selection of all out flashy mofos, whose lives revolve around growing hemmhoroids at gates while popping everything that comes through. While that may constitute piracy to some, I see it as nothing more than doing a slightly more interesting lvl 4 mission...
As is the case with beauty, what constitutes piracy IS in the eye of the beholder.
Not that it rly matters...
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:23:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Atreides Horza
As is the case with beauty, what constitutes piracy IS in the eye of the beerholder.
Not that it rly matters...
fixed it for ya
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Atreides Horza
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:37:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Arekhon
Originally by: Atreides Horza
As is the case with beauty, what constitutes piracy IS in the eye of the beerholder.
Not that it rly matters...
fixed it for ya
I stand corrected!
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:44:00 -
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You guys realize that my OP is a joke right? Apparently everybody but the self important noobs like Kehmor get it.
Being a pirate is a state of being. It's how you conduct yourself. High sec ganking, empire wars, corp infiltration and thievery. It's all good.
But being red flashy and -10 just makes you look a lot prettier when you're ripping the innards out of someone's pod, don't you think?
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Gradinger
Todmacher
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:06:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
You guys realize that my OP is a joke right? Apparently everybody but the self important noobs like Kehmor get it.
Being a pirate is a state of being. It's how you conduct yourself. High sec ganking, empire wars, corp infiltration and thievery. It's all good.
But being red flashy and -10 just makes you look a lot prettier when you're ripping the innards out of someone's pod, don't you think?
dang! no badges? :(
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lolzor
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:07:00 -
[34]
Edited by: lolzor on 23/01/2008 11:07:24
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
You guys realize that my OP is a joke right? Apparently everybody but the self important noobs like Kehmor get it.
Being a pirate is a state of being. It's how you conduct yourself. High sec ganking, empire wars, corp infiltration and thievery. It's all good.
But being red flashy and -10 just makes you look a lot prettier when you're ripping the innards out of someone's pod, don't you think?
Could you quote your OP and point out where the joke starts and the pathetic stops?
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Atreides Horza
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:11:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
You guys realize that my OP is a joke right? Apparently everybody but the self important noobs like Kehmor get it.
Being a pirate is a state of being. It's how you conduct yourself. High sec ganking, empire wars, corp infiltration and thievery. It's all good.
But being red flashy and -10 just makes you look a lot prettier when you're ripping the innards out of someone's pod, don't you think?
Well you'd be surprised what people have tried to argue on these boards throughout time.
I do agree, though, all-out yarrness IS a state of mind.
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:12:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Edited by: Bellum Eternus on 23/01/2008 07:27:38
How to determine if your corp/alliance is indeed a pirate corp: find out how many characters are in said corp/alliance. Examine their security status and determine how many of those characters are -10 (for this exercise -9 will suffice).
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
As you were.
Edited to revise cutoff to -9.0 or less. Yarrr.
So in your world, a 6 man corp including 2 hauler alts wouldnt be able to call themselves pirates? How about just letting people decide for themselves what they are?
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:26:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/01/2008 11:26:26
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Jaro Brutus
La Isla del Mono
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:30:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Gradinger
where do i get my "I'm a Pirate" - badge?
I've got mine:
Piwate ID
:)
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Alia Xi
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:13:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Gradinger
where do i get my "I'm a Pirate" - badge?
I have a pointy hat you can borrow if that helps?
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:13:00 -
[40]
I respect all forms of Piracy. But there is a special place in my heart for fellow outlaws (flashy reds).
And don't worry Kehmor, Anti-pies are still Pirates...sort of.
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:15:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Edited by: Bellum Eternus on 23/01/2008 07:27:38
How to determine if your corp/alliance is indeed a pirate corp: find out how many characters are in said corp/alliance. Examine their security status and determine how many of those characters are -10 (for this exercise -9 will suffice).
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
As you were.
Edited to revise cutoff to -9.0 or less. Yarrr.
So in your world, a 6 man corp including 2 hauler alts wouldnt be able to call themselves pirates? How about just letting people decide for themselves what they are?
Sorry bud, when you enter a low sec system with a 5.0 sec stat and start screaming "Y4rrr!!" in local and you actually think you're a Pirate, its difficult to convince me.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:04:00 -
[42]
My corp recruits quite a bit , mostly new players starting with 0 sec status , so it takes them a while to reach -10. As a result , less than half of the corp is below -9. Yet , all we do is pirate people (and farmbots) all day long.
Originally by: ivan draco
we didnt want your post anyway
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Patso Tappaja
Paisti
Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:48:00 -
[43]
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec. 
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:01:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
Real men run missions in low sec with drones!
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:15:00 -
[45]
Do what you want cause a pirate is free... you are a pirate
Originally by: High Sierra
note to self:
dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Yonneh
Death of Virtue
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:27:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
Quit Eve.
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Redbad
Minmatar
Tempered Steel Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:32:00 -
[47]
If there is anyone that thinks piracy is in little numbers ... guess again.
RB
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Alia Xi
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.23 18:32:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
Because that's piracy? Besides, we have to make money too
Saying they are all noobs isn't strictly true, I *know* and *fly* with a *lot* of pirates who are far from noobs!
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:09:00 -
[49]
Edited by: General Coochie on 23/01/2008 19:14:48
Empire wars is totally legal in EvE so I really wouldn't count that as piracy..
And since ppl think we can decide what we are, I'm one of the better mission runners in eve, the fact that I did about 10 missions total in my eve life has nothing to do with it of course.
Id like to call myself pirate and I don't wanna be mixed up with the vermin thieving ore and scamming ppl.
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Frygok
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:24:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Dr Slice
Edited by: Dr Slice on 23/01/2008 12:17:36
Edited by: Dr Slice on 23/01/2008 12:15:21
Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Edited by: Bellum Eternus on 23/01/2008 07:27:38
How to determine if your corp/alliance is indeed a pirate corp: find out how many characters are in said corp/alliance. Examine their security status and determine how many of those characters are -10 (for this exercise -9 will suffice).
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
As you were.
Edited to revise cutoff to -9.0 or less. Yarrr.
So in your world, a 6 man corp including 2 hauler alts wouldnt be able to call themselves pirates? How about just letting people decide for themselves what they are?
Sorry bud, when you enter a low sec system with a 5.0 sec stat and start screaming "Y4rrr!!" in local and you actually think you're a Pirate, doesn't make it so.
The same goes for the -9,999 people who go "Yarr!!" because they can have a 10 man gatecamp from a high-sec gate into lowsec and shoot whatever mission runner that jumps through.
Standings doesn't mean jack.
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slice on 23/01/2008 19:28:20
Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: Dr Slice
Edited by: Dr Slice on 23/01/2008 12:17:36
Edited by: Dr Slice on 23/01/2008 12:15:21
Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Edited by: Bellum Eternus on 23/01/2008 07:27:38
How to determine if your corp/alliance is indeed a pirate corp: find out how many characters are in said corp/alliance. Examine their security status and determine how many of those characters are -10 (for this exercise -9 will suffice).
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
As you were.
Edited to revise cutoff to -9.0 or less. Yarrr.
So in your world, a 6 man corp including 2 hauler alts wouldnt be able to call themselves pirates? How about just letting people decide for themselves what they are?
Sorry bud, when you enter a low sec system with a 5.0 sec stat and start screaming "Y4rrr!!" in local and you actually think you're a Pirate, doesn't make it so.
The same goes for the -9,999 people who go "Yarr!!" because they can have a 10 man gatecamp from a high-sec gate into lowsec and shoot whatever mission runner that jumps through.
Standings doesn't mean jack.
Wrong. Sec status give a strong indication of what you do. There is a difference between a 5.0 and a -10. If sec status didn't mean jack, how come outlaws can't access high security space?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:36:00 -
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Oh I'm not cool enough to be a pirate ok. Then what is it I'm doing making people explode?
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:41:00 -
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A lot of interesting views on piracy in here. From my POV the pirate title is simply a RP idea, I ransom when I need money, I gate camp when my AO is dead/slow, I gank ppl that rat in low sec (noobs?), I fight other groups of like minded people. I prefer to have a low sec status because I believe it is the most difficult and enjoyable way to play Eve, everything requires a plan.
I just enjoy challenging pvp, which leads to why I only log in to change skills, being in a large gang to gank 1-2 ppl is not enjoyable or challenging yet that is all that is available to do.
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:24:00 -
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Sniggerdly Hater
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
If less than 75% of your corp/alliance members are -10, YOU ARE NOT IN A PIRATE CORP FFS.
And by pirate corp you mean poser corp. Understood.
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Sniggerdly Hater
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:38:00 -
[56]
Originally by: General Coochie
Edited by: General Coochie on 23/01/2008 19:14:48
Empire wars is totally legal in EvE so I really wouldn't count that as piracy..
Heard of, say, Sir Francis Drake?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:45:00 -
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Aren't trial accounts banned from posting wtf is this ****
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Everyone Dies
Caldari
Lucky Tampon
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:48:00 -
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REAL pirates corps are all -10 and do not have alts (in corp or out of corp) that can enter high sec. A pirate lives in low sec and does all their business in low security systems. If you have an alt account that hauls, trades, missions in high sec to make isk, why the **** are you pirating?
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Neo Rainhart
Caldari
One Eyed Teddies
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Character age has nothing to do with anything.
QFT! 
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 20:59:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Everyone Dies
REAL pirates corps are all -10 and do not have alts (in corp or out of corp) that can enter high sec. A pirate lives in low sec and does all their business in low security systems. If you have an alt account that hauls, trades, missions in high sec to make isk, why the **** are you pirating?
List the ones you know of please. Or is this simply a standard you just made up?
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.01.23 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gunner Cid
A lot of interesting views on piracy in here. From my POV the pirate title is simply a RP idea, I ransom when I need money, I gate camp when my AO is dead/slow, I gank ppl that rat in low sec (noobs?), I fight other groups of like minded people. I prefer to have a low sec status because I believe it is the most difficult and enjoyable way to play Eve, everything requires a plan.
I just enjoy challenging pvp, which leads to why I only log in to change skills, being in a large gang to gank 1-2 ppl is not enjoyable or challenging yet that is all that is available to do.
Good post, I agree, thats the same reasons I pirate.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.24 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 24/01/2008 03:38:24
Originally by: Everyone Dies
REAL pirates corps are all -10 and do not have alts (in corp or out of corp) that can enter high sec. A pirate lives in low sec and does all their business in low security systems. If you have an alt account that hauls, trades, missions in high sec to make isk, why the **** are you pirating?
The holy triniy of Eve Accounts. The Pvper, the hauler, the mission runner
I'm looking at you Crimson!
Originally by: Yonneh
Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
Quit Eve.
Trolling Mission Status: Success!
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Crimson Onyx
the united
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: Crimson Onyx on 24/01/2008 03:57:55
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 24/01/2008 03:38:24
Originally by: Everyone Dies
REAL pirates corps are all -10 and do not have alts (in corp or out of corp) that can enter high sec. A pirate lives in low sec and does all their business in low security systems. If you have an alt account that hauls, trades, missions in high sec to make isk, why the **** are you pirating?
The holy triniy of Eve Accounts. The Pvper, the hauler, the mission runner
I'm looking at you Crimson!
Originally by: Yonneh
Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
Quit Eve.
Trolling Mission Status: Success!
Marcus enjoy the scope ya noob.
What outlaw doesn't have an alt or friend with an alt I don't want that industrial **** on my main :P
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:03:00 -
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I made a mission runner... then it got it's ass handed to it by 5 rogue drones and now I don't want to look at it 
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Sojiuro
Boennerup Banden
Long Distance Serial Killlers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:13:00 -
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B--B averages -10 \^^/
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The Tzar
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:53:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that all of us at Havoc Inc. and our beloved alliance Blood Blind are have sec status lower than -9.0. And I can assure you everyone there has the yarrro running through their veins.
In fact I remember being told when I first started in Havoc that unless I had outlaw status I couldn't go on ops as I would never be primaried as a 'yellow' 
If you miss out on a kill because you didn't want the sec status hit, you are not a pirate.
Pirating in 0.0 is easy compared to lowsec.
Not only do you not have sentry guns to deal with, you also have the rich ratting grounds to fund your yarro 0.0. Not only are the bounties much bigger, you get officer spawns and the safety of alliance systems with multiple permanant scouts. Bah, childsplay.
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Teslique
Gallente
Play Bunnies
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:00:00 -
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Hmm yes I was going to mention what about the people who pirate in 0.0. It does seem pretty easy if you avoid blobd, and just watch the pipes to kill/ransom people transporting and look for soft targets. And I have noticed a LOT of these alliances have lots of "younger" indy type players so the picking are ripe...
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PaNzErEllA
Gallente
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.24 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
The above is a rediculous statement...
As for -10; Attempting to get to true -10 is a hefty acheivement. I myself am on the long crusade to the holy land. Currently -9.999999999999, only another 2000 pod kills to go :(
-10 is fun, but pirating is a lifestyle.
PAN
CEO - Death's Legion
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Rellik B00n
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.24 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: PaNzErEllA
-10 is fun, but pirating is a lifestyle.
id go further and say its a state of mind. then id say /thread.
also lol at this thread
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Idaeus
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Let me guess: your corp does something other than pirate in low sec? Flying around in 0.0? Empire wars perhaps? High sec ganking?
IMO the defining pedigree in Eve for being a pirate is having extremely low (-9.0 or less) sec status.
Anything else and you're just a hooligan or petty brigand.
There was a time when we (EARN) were all -8 and below. We ran out of targets, so we ground up sec, launched a few wars, got targets again. That and we take contract work now and then that involves POS removal. We used to say screw it and take the sec hit while sieging, but a number of contracts in the pipe were highsec POS kills.
But yeah, I'd say hooligan easily applies to us. Were pirates, then the pipe ran dry.
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Patso Tappaja
Paisti
Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.25 06:57:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 24/01/2008 03:38:24
Originally by: Everyone Dies
REAL pirates corps are all -10 and do not have alts (in corp or out of corp) that can enter high sec. A pirate lives in low sec and does all their business in low security systems. If you have an alt account that hauls, trades, missions in high sec to make isk, why the **** are you pirating?
The holy triniy of Eve Accounts. The Pvper, the hauler, the mission runner
I'm looking at you Crimson!
Originally by: Yonneh
Originally by: Patso Tappaja
Pirates are honestly epeen boosting n00bs that use most of their time to gank haulers. Real men PvP in 0.0 space. Low sec is for us carebears to mine,rat and run missions. Honestly, why you would bully innocent people that just want to make money in low sec.
Quit Eve.
Trolling Mission Status: Success!
NOOOO, you ruined my bait.
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.25 09:06:00 -
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Funny how people still think that numbers actually mean anything, WOW is ----> way.
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.25 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 25/01/2008 17:12:49
Sec status means nothing with regards to being a "pirate".
Sitting on a gate all day smartbombing haulers, nubships and rookie players isn't piracy. In fundemental terms it's the same as spawn camping in an FPS, catching people on the load in.
Being -10 doesn't mean you're a pirate. It means you're an outlaw. The two things in themselves are very different.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Mat rix
Caldari
Grail Seekers
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Posted - 2008.01.25 17:42:00 -
[74]
Im just misunderstood. . .
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PaNzErEllA
Gallente
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.25 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Edited by: Verone on 25/01/2008 17:12:49
Sec status means nothing with regards to being a "pirate".
Sitting on a gate all day smartbombing haulers, nubships and rookie players isn't piracy. In fundemental terms it's the same as spawn camping in an FPS, catching people on the load in.
Being -10 doesn't mean you're a pirate. It means you're an outlaw. The two things in themselves are very different.
In turn, then taking the items from the smartbombing and selling the items for personal gain at the expense of others would be piracy :)
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Edited by: Verone on 25/01/2008 17:12:49
Sec status means nothing with regards to being a "pirate".
Sitting on a gate all day smartbombing haulers, nubships and rookie players isn't piracy. In fundemental terms it's the same as spawn camping in an FPS, catching people on the load in.
Being -10 doesn't mean you're a pirate. It means you're an outlaw. The two things in themselves are very different.
I love your Verone... in a manly way ofcourse /blush
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.01.26 11:53:00 -
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Personally I need the -5 -> -10 sec status to feel like a pirate. If the wanted sign goes I also feel a bit.. meh..
My alt is not outlaw nor is he wanted and I don't feel like a pirate operating him. More like bait, scout, annoying dude wanting a fight. The day I make him outlaw I think he will get the same love when I'm flying him as coochie does.
Well thats my own personal experience.
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