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SexehGallente Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.01.24 04:09:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T If you can't find the firepower to KILL a damned wartarget within 30 seconds of him STOPPING firing on you (time he CAN'T dock), then stop fighting right in front of stations, you freaking nitwits. my love for you is forever blossoming !
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.24 04:20:00 - [32] Originally by: Tobin Shalim Background: our corp was recently war decc'd by **** (yes, I'm blanking them out on purpose) and we were subsequently forced in a station camp. You were forced** to camp a station? --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Ban Shui Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.01.24 04:34:00 - [33] I would imagine that stations would have some sort of very powerful shield repper that could repair a ship's shields instantly.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2008.01.24 04:35:00 - [34] This just in: Shields recharge when you dock! WHO KNEW?! - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
SexehGallente Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.01.24 04:40:00 - [35] Originally by: Ban Shui I would imagine that stations would have some sort of very powerful shield repper that could repair a ship's shields instantly. Takes energy and energy is money. Why is it free?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.24 04:46:00 - [36] Originally by: Akita T If you can't find the firepower to KILL a damned wartarget within 30 seconds of him STOPPING firing on you (time he CAN'T dock), then stop fighting right in front of stations, you freaking nitwits. Usually by the time said firepower has acquired lock and is raining down on the target he can then dock up again, nitwit. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2008.01.24 05:29:00 - [37] New? Been this way since the first introduced the game. Not an exploit, never has been. ------ begin signature ----- Little known Eve fact, The original race names were: Amarr Empire, Caldar Empire, Minmatar Republic, The Jovians, and The Remanaquie Federation.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.24 05:32:00 - [38] Originally by: Danton Marcellus It's just a very bad rip-off on the whacka-mole. try popping the macro haulers at the Ingunn gate () () (â;..;)â (")(")
Pans Exual	Posted - 2008.01.24 08:00:00 - [39] It has been changed. Shields don't automatically recharge anymore. Try it out... just dock with low shields, then undock. You have to do something like swap a fitting or open the repair window to get instant recharge now... I still think it's far less of an exploit than others which are running rampant.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.01.24 08:23:00 - [40] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Marine HK4861 They can't undock immediately - there's an approximate 30 second timer stopping you from undocking straight after you docked. Wrong. You can undock the instant you dock. You can START the undocking process yes, but just for a laugh, run a timer the next time you do so and clock how long you are in the "Preparing to undock-Entering space" progress bar. Do it when you immediately undock after docking, and when you wait for your session timer to expire. You'll notice you are undocking a lot more slowly in the first case. I think the undock progress is factoring in the session timer. You just don't have to wait to start it like you have to when switching ships.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.24 08:32:00 - [41] Originally by: SexehGallente my love for you is forever blossoming ! To be honest, I don't get that a lot. Except from my girlfriend. And my corpmates. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2008.01.24 08:38:00 - [42] Originally by: Pans Exual It has been changed. Shields don't automatically recharge anymore. Try it out... just dock with low shields, then undock. You have to do something like swap a fitting or open the repair window to get instant recharge now... I still think it's far less of an exploit than others which are running rampant. Actually, that's only a display bug. The shields and cap do get the recharge, the hud just doesn't show it until you do something that forces an update. Once you activate a module, it pops back to full. ------ begin signature ----- Little known Eve fact, The original race names were: Amarr Empire, Caldar Empire, Minmatar Republic, The Jovians, and The Remanaquie Federation.
Oniko Sengir The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.24 09:15:00 - [43] Actually the newest allowed exploit is flying a swiss army knife. video
sxndy	Posted - 2008.01.24 09:34:00 - [44] Its common practice to have a ceptor bump the hostile away from the station. Either that you are going to need some heavy damage dealers to take the ship out fast. I suppose stations do give a small advantage to sheild tankers, but there's nothing stopping armor reppers repairing too. If you can fly a BS you should be able to afford to repair it, if not stop messing about at stations, because thats all it is, messing about till someone makes a mistake. :)
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.01.24 09:43:00 - [45] Originally by: sxndy Its common practice to have a ceptor bump the hostile away from the station. Either that you are going to need some heavy damage dealers to take the ship out fast. I suppose stations do give a small advantage to sheild tankers, but there's nothing stopping armor reppers repairing too. If you can fly a BS you should be able to afford to repair it, if not stop messing about at stations, because thats all it is, messing about till someone makes a mistake. :) Do you even know the price to repair armor?Without a buffer setup its not too bad but if you buffer its like buying a pos This is what happens when a kestrel with thermal missiles declares war on earth
Nemiona Minmatar Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2008.01.24 10:19:00 - [46] As someone else said earlier.. If he undock and aggro at you he will get the 30 sec timer where he cant dock. If youre unable to kill him in 30-40 sec I guess you need to bring more +dmg ships or leave. If he undock and doesnt aggro you, hes just playing with you as he can dock whenever he wants to. Not an exploit. hes just using up all your ammo :P ------ The future, according to some scientists, will be exactly like the past, only far more expensive. John Sladek
sxndy	Posted - 2008.01.24 10:35:00 - [47] Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: sxndy Its common practice to have a ceptor bump the hostile away from the station. Either that you are going to need some heavy damage dealers to take the ship out fast. I suppose stations do give a small advantage to sheild tankers, but there's nothing stopping armor reppers repairing too. If you can fly a BS you should be able to afford to repair it, if not stop messing about at stations, because thats all it is, messing about till someone makes a mistake. :) Do you even know the price to repair armor?Without a buffer setup its not too bad but if you buffer its like buying a pos Maybe I'm just rich :))
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2008.01.24 10:49:00 - [48] Originally by: Tobin Shalim Insta-shield recharging .. undocked immediately after with FULL shields Although not a new feature, it's something that should be fixed in my opinion. Battleships doing that isn't that much of problem, usually its feasible to kill them in those 60 seconds. Capitals in the other hand take long whiles to succumb. Something like Moros next to bumb-proof station is a bit too invincible. Such ship can fight effectively againts a small to medium fleet of ships, instadocking to refill cap/shields. -Lasse having quite many KMs with such Moros
Mc Fraser Cross Roads	Posted - 2008.01.24 11:40:00 - [49] Originally by: sxndy Originally by: goodby4u Do you even know the price to repair armor?Without a buffer setup its not too bad but if you buffer its like buying a pos Maybe I'm just rich :)) My Abbadon costs 73mill isk to repair for structure not something you want to be doing often
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.01.24 11:53:00 - [50] New? LOL Since when is that new??? And have you ever heard about something like ... bumping?
Star Dagger	Posted - 2008.01.24 11:55:00 - [51] Your alliance shouldn't have allowed them to dock at your station. And you should have had eyes a few systems out. Oh? Your in Empire? Well there is your problem. Get into the game in 0.0 Solved. Yours in 0.0 Plasma, Star*Dagger
sheisamanbaby	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:03:00 - [52] Originally by: SexehGallente Originally by: Ban Shui I would imagine that stations would have some sort of very powerful shield repper that could repair a ship's shields instantly. Takes energy and energy is money. Why is it free? The station doesn't run on diesel. The station could have a number of energy sources that probably doesn't exist atm. can it be that the outpost was designed to perform it?
Marcus Xavier Minmatar Xavier Institute for Higher Learning	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:09:00 - [53] And where was your repair ship or logistics ship to fully rep your own ships? I have an alt who can rep everything AND transfer energy on demand (it looks like a Megathron, but it's really a Repathron). Station slugfests are fine and dandy if your opponent agrees, but you really need to think strategically. ---------------- Mutatis Mutandis
Anti Protagonist Archron Dusyfe Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:00:00 - [54] Originally by: Gnulpie New? LOL Since when is that new??? And have you ever heard about something like ... bumping? Yeah, I was wondering myself how this was "new" I need a sig....
Sniggerdly Hater	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:53:00 - [55] OP fails at eve. This is yet another "I don't know how to play please make changes!" thread. And by make changes I mean nerf. How about instead you learn what a timer is?
Tobin Shalim Vulcan Foundry	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:02:00 - [56] Originally by: Ogul Originally by: Tobin Shalim Background: our corp was recently war decc'd by **** (yes, I'm blanking them out on purpose) and we were subsequently forced in a station camp. You were forced** to camp a station? No, we were forced into a station camp. AKA: they were station camping us. Sorry for any confusion. And no, this wasn't a troll post for my first one. It's a legitimate problem with a game mechanic being abused to provide an unfair benefit. Ala the alliance hopping to avoid wars.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:27:00 - [57] Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Tobin Shalim Insta-shield recharging .. undocked immediately after with FULL shields Although not a new feature, it's something that should be fixed in my opinion. Battleships doing that isn't that much of problem, usually its feasible to kill them in those 60 seconds. Capitals in the other hand take long whiles to succumb. Something like Moros next to bumb-proof station is a bit too invincible. Such ship can fight effectively againts a small to medium fleet of ships, instadocking to refill cap/shields. -Lasse having quite many KMs with such Moros While the OPs version has no real value to the one doing this, the version with a cap ship might indeed be a littl unintended advantage. On the other side there are no bump-proof stations, some are quite hard to bump a ship away, but you can do that from every station. So lets say that moros engages, you start bumping him and he is forced to disengage, in order to be able to dock before you bump him out of docking range. One minute is a long time, if you have some good bumpers or if most of the ships in said fleet have an mwd and are bumping in the same direction, there is no station that you can't bump a dread of dockingrange within one minute. So even in that version, the advantage of that tactics is quite limited: if he engages a fleet that can kill him, he might get bumped away and die.
Major Stallion Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:38:00 - [58] Originally by: Marine HK4861 They can't undock immediately - there's an approximate 30 second timer stopping you from undocking straight after you docked. There's also an aggression counter of about a minute - you can't dock or jump through a gate for a minute after you've shot something. Here's a question though - what's stopping you from doing the same? errr what?
Buyerr	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:54:00 - [59] Originally by: Akita T If you can't find the firepower to KILL a damned wartarget within 30 seconds of him STOPPING firing on you (time he CAN'T dock), then stop fighting right in front of stations, you freaking nitwits. yup this... and talking about exploit if bumping isn't a exploit then this certainly isn't either:P I declare war on stupidity
sir spam'alot	Posted - 2008.01.24 16:00:00 - [60] Originally by: tarin adur Originally by: Agent Li Originally by: Spenz hmm that is annoying, especially since armor tankers can't get the same luxury. Umm... just do repairs (a minor cost) and your armor is back to 100% Minor cost my ass, a Trimarked,plated megathron costs around 7-10m per full armor rep, and if you remove the plates to fit reps...guess what....you cant undock...free armor reps plz. take off plates, this leaves you in negative armor, leave ship and get back in to reset to 0 armor, then you can undock..

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