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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.27 17:23:00 -
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It seems that the 2 remaining solowtfpwnmachines are the Ishtar and the Curse. I wonder if they were intended to be flown as "haha can't catch me when I'm doing 6k forever" nanoships, being far superior to Vagabonds (the original and only authentic nanoship).
The Ishtar does more DPS than a Vagabond with free choice of damage type and 50+ Km range and it can fit a rack of Neutralizers as well in the highs, giving it 2 main weapon systems).
The Curse can kill anything solo (below properly fitted capital ships) since its bonus allows it to disable all forms of tackling/ECM and many types of weapons.
At least the Ishtar should not be useable as a nanoship ...
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flashfreaking
LFC
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2008.01.27 17:28:00 -
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You are an Amarr, thus you should fly the Curse, and you mention it in a nerf thread...
Are you mad?
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Niffetin
Gallente
Omni Research
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Posted - 2008.01.27 17:29:00 -
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 Originally by: flashfreaking
You are an Amarr, thus you should fly the Curse, and you mention it in a nerf thread...
Are you mad?
Propably, and then an EFT Warrior too I bet.
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Canine Fiend
Minmatar
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.27 17:46:00 -
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You should also note that the Ishtar has a severe disadvantage to the Vagabond. Should the Ishtar have to leave quickly, it also leaves all of its DPS behind... I'd call that a pretty significant drawback to using a drone boat.
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Avenger18
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Posted - 2008.01.27 17:50:00 -
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yes 9 people in your alliance killed my drake by ramming it with an ishtar so i couldn't dock then blew me to hell, this happened 2 weeks ago and i had had my drake for 4 months until u killed it :( then u popped my pod :( shame shame shame that was a 50 mil + drake
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Ekuwy Oizoa
Anthrax Foundation
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Posted - 2008.01.27 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Avenger18
yes 9 people in your alliance killed my drake by ramming it with an ishtar so i couldn't dock then blew me to hell, this happened 2 weeks ago and i had had my drake for 4 months until u killed it :( then u popped my pod :( shame shame shame that was a 50 mil + drake
gotta love sarcasm 
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Zephyr Rengate
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:03:00 -
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Is it too to hard to kill drones?
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Vivitari
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Is it too to hard to kill drones?
This
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vivitari
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Is it too to hard to kill drones?
This
QFT
To be honest I see no problem with the nano-ishtar that you don't see in other nano-ships. Sure it can pump out more dps, but unless the ishtar slows down you do know that he's not going to be able to call back drones right? And drones die quickly if you know what you're doing.
As far as the curse goes, just STFU. The amarr actually have a good pvp ship (not that it can do anything against a passive tank but w/e) and someone complains that it needs a nerf... you're not actually that dense are you?
1/10 for the trolling efforts here.
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Sauromugue
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:20:00 -
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3/10
Got me a little upset, but an obvious troll.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:21:00 -
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You try recalling drones from 50km out when you need to leave in a rush and then come back and post.
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:30:00 -
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guys I just noticed if I set it to "All Level 5" the following ships have omg amazing dps and are fast when nanoed and can tank -
- All of them
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The Nanoishtar may be a pain in the bum but it isn't "OMGWTFNERF". The Curse has had its nerf - it can't lock everything down now. Though it is a powerful ship when used correctly, and works well preying on belt ratters/miners, its not overpowered.
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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Niffetin
Originally by: flashfreaking
You are an Amarr, thus you should fly the Curse, and you mention it in a nerf thread...
Are you mad?
Propably, and then an EFT Warrior too I bet.
My main is minmatar.
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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Is it too to hard to kill drones?
Ogre II with HP bonus are hard to kill, yes. 5 of them have about 20K HP, that's more than the Ishtar itself.
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castraitory
Minmatar
AND THEN NO YOU
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Posted - 2008.01.27 18:59:00 -
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Recalling drones from 50km in a solo wtf ship????
You mean to say you got a 50km scrambler nice 
Never tried the nano ishtar, I dont like flying nano ships my self but yeh if a drone gets shot or you have to bug out then you leave your dps.
Same with the curse and its drones your dps is exposed and can be taken down unlike the vaga.
I dont see the point to the thread though as there is no question apart from no they wernt meant to be flown as nano ships, no point really just a statement from your veiwpoint so I will leave it at that.
Theres a few corps and alliances that mainly fly nano hacs,bs's infact anything with low slots they fill with nanos and overdrives and we all know who they are.
Its a Low risk tactic which many use in pvp and many hate.
Train for a vaga or rapier and then come back and complain when you see they have no tank when caught and melt in seconds.
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Copperhead Inc.
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.27 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: flashfreaking
You are an Amarr, thus you should fly the Curse, and you mention it in a nerf thread...
Are you mad?
I'm Caldari, should I be flying a Drake in place of a Hurricane or Myrmidon?
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Skraeling Shortbus
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.27 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 27/01/2008 19:51:53
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Is it too to hard to kill drones?
Ogre II with HP bonus are hard to kill, yes. 5 of them have about 20K HP, that's more than the Ishtar itself.
No they are not... I dealt with a nanoishtar easily with a raven and i had torps on for craps sake. I was popping this guys drones left and right. Did i mention i was only ratting fit and had just 2 kinetic hardners and a Large sheild booster on? Oh yes, this was also before the drone shield recharge nerf too.
If you get killed by a single nanotar really i laugh at you.
You just fail.
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2008.01.28 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: castraitory
Recalling drones from 50km in a solo wtf ship????
You mean to say you got a 50km scrambler nice
Well, if you can fly faster then your drones, you might end up far away from them. When you get into trouble and want to bug out, it might not be a good idea to wait for the drones to catch up
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari
White Shadow Imperium
imPure.
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Posted - 2008.01.28 00:17:00 -
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Nano ishtars can be killed by a lone crow. Stop whining and adapt.
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Van Steiza
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.01.28 00:23:00 -
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To the op....
Shut ur face.
HONESTLY 6km/s ISHTAR is probably a lowgrade snaked n factioned ishtar IF UR lucky.
Most people are 3 to 4km/s
that the fact that there drones are killable and recalling ogree IIs is omg *** u have to slowdown first of all.
You people ruin the game with ur ******** thoughts.
HEY heres a solution dont poast.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.28 01:25:00 -
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The nanoishtar has too many disadvantages for me to bother with.
The curse is a fine ship and sometimes I use it. But my favourite nano ship is still the Sacrilege. Good dps and it goes fast enough without having to spend too much on it.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.01.28 01:32:00 -
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instead of saying they are solwtfpwn mobiles, you should just say you cant beat them, not us.
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Fanjita
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Posted - 2008.01.28 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Van Steiza
To the op....
Shut ur face.
HONESTLY 6km/s ISHTAR is probably a lowgrade snaked n factioned ishtar IF UR lucky.
Most people are 3 to 4km/s
that the fact that there drones are killable and recalling ogree IIs is omg *** u have to slowdown first of all.
You people ruin the game with ur ******** thoughts.
HEY heres a solution dont poast.
but everyone in eve has snakes and faction mods and sells gtc to poor students to buy uber gear except poor ol' crastus :(
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Hotshothotshot1
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.28 03:38:00 -
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i made a vulture in EFT which could tanke over 3000 dps and had resist all above 90 except for em which was 85 orso
does cost above 50 billion though
Nerf!!
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari
White Shadow Imperium
imPure.
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Posted - 2008.01.28 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Hotshothotshot1
i made a vulture in EFT which could tanke over 3000 dps and had resist all above 90 except for em which was 85 orso
does cost above 50 billion though
Nerf!!
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.28 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
original and only authentic
Giant, giant red flag announcing that a bad opinion is about to be made regarding a ship class.
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Vanessa Vale
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Posted - 2008.01.28 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Canine Fiend
You should also note that the Ishtar has a severe disadvantage to the Vagabond. Should the Ishtar have to leave quickly, it also leaves all of its DPS behind... I'd call that a pretty significant drawback to using a drone boat.
Just like the vagabond at a reasonable range. Ok, not all, but substantial part of its DPS.
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.01.28 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 28/01/2008 05:42:59
Originally by: Pan Crastus
It seems that the 2 remaining solowtfpwnmachines are the Ishtar and the Curse. I wonder if they were intended to be flown as "haha can't catch me when I'm doing 6k forever" nanoships, being far superior to Vagabonds (the original and only authentic nanoship).
Huh have you ever tried to make a 6k sustainable nanocurse or ishtar? Bear in mind the curse will not nos what EFT says it will as an opponent's cap will fluctuate and they may cap out. Those ships need a good bit of tweaking to break 3k, most are in the 3-4k range.
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The Ishtar does more DPS than a Vagabond with free choice of damage type and 50+ Km range and it can fit a rack of Neutralizers as well in the highs, giving it 2 main weapon systems).
Wait, what? The ishtar is horrendous to fit, ogres take an age to travel to target, you can't scram at 50k in an ishtar, and medium neuts don't work well on nanoships as they have a ~12km range and they cap you out meaning your mwd stops.
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The Curse can kill anything solo (below properly fitted capital ships) since its bonus allows it to disable all forms of tackling/ECM and many types of weapons.
Cap injection is your friend, so are... friends, and not being cought alone by a ship that does well to do 200dps. The curse is extremely powerful used right but it is far more difficult to make a solo curse these days after the nos nerf. Most setups are either paper thin or rely on cap injection or both.
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At least the Ishtar should not be useable as a nanoship ...
Why?
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.01.28 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sauromugue
3/10
Got me a little upset, but an obvious troll.
This.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.28 07:50:00 -
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drone dps is useless paper dps.
nano ishtar sucks ass for reasons too obvious and numerous to even discuss.
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