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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.01.28 13:38:00 -
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Who hear thinks that the drone regions of eve lack...well pretty much everything in the way of content compared to the faction regions? Because I for one do. |
Shurikane
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Posted - 2008.01.28 14:09:00 -
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Officer spawns - check.
Hidden mining belts - check.
Hacking sites - check.
Deadspace complexes - check.
I don't see the problem.
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.28 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 28/01/2008 14:11:57
 Originally by: Shurikane
Officer spawns - check.
Hidden mining belts - check.
Hacking sites - check.
Deadspace complexes - check.
I don't see the problem.
You forgot over 50% of the top ore systems in eve.
Infact the only thing thats really missing is a handful of npc stations, and seeing as rogue drones isn't actually a faction and doesn't need stations I think that's fair.
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.28 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Shurikane
Officer spawns - check.
Hidden mining belts - check.
Hacking sites - check.
Deadspace complexes - check.
I don't see the problem.
Sorry, Officers? names please!
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Jodi on 28/01/2008 15:09:30
Whoah... Since the past two posters have stated with such authority, I guess I need to completely ignore reality and just love my region.
Naw, screw that. The last two posters have no freaking idea what they are talking about.
The 'Officers' in the Drone regions are a single special type of drone, similar to a True Sansha rat. They only drop an Eliete Drone AI, and a bit of T2 Salvage. No such thing as a Named item worth billions. If you think that is comparable to finding a Billion-isk Officer Item, I got some beachfront property in Arizona for you.
There is no 'Hauler' spawns. In that respect the Drone Regions are like 7-up: Never Had It, Never Will. Any information to the contrary was obviously not gained from anything like... oh.. Experience?
There are no 'Complexes' in the Drone Regions. Since we did not ever have any Static Complexes, there are no hidden complexes to find. Another example of the burning idiocy of the previous posters.
We have Exploration Content: That consists of normal encounters, 'Unknown' complexes, Gravimetric and Radar sites. Gravimetric sites are as useless as the above posters, seeing as how we have systems afer system of untouched asteroid belts as it is. Radar sites are bugged, only dropping something once every three cans. They do drop the new Drone BPC's: I've done 18 radar sites and gotten 4 BPC's, all for the lowest-level light scout drones. Compare that to Empire sites dropping Decryptors and Faction Tower BPC's.
So, all in all the previous two posters are so wrong that they should be ashamed about all the poor Electrons that died to bring you thier message.
Have a Nice Day!
Edit: Kendrak, you slipped in there on me. 'Past Two Posters' don't apply to you!
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Freaky Eyes
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:12:00 -
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Move to another region?
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:14:00 -
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It still feels kind of lame. Forexample all the BS drones seem to have about the same "pool of drops" which means that the somewhat harder Queen can drop refinables worth much less than that generic BS drone.
Sentient ones drops aug and integr drone parts, but the finished product is'nt particulary impressive compared to the much-easier-to-get T2 drones.
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Originally by: Torfi
There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:19:00 -
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letting people with no mining skills get freighterloads of minerals - check
Trashed sig, Shark was here |
MenanceWhite
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
letting people with no mining skills get freighterloads of minerals - check
People missing mining skills are probably also lacking the skills needed to refine the stuff at good rates. I don't know how good those refinables sell for if you just sell them via market directly. Think it was much lower that the actual mineral worth.
Besides, people want to be able to hit faction/officer spawns for chances of instant zomg *** isk. A good amount of people that are ratting in 0.0 does'nt even bother to loot nor to salvage the wrecks.
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Originally by: Torfi
There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Christari Zuborov
Amarr
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:36:00 -
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SOME system has to suck, and I guess this now replaces Geminate as the crappiest system in game.
Drone regions will continue to suck until the devs decide to put in an even suckier system than it.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
If you think that is comparable to finding a Billion-isk Officer Item, I got some beachfront property in Arizona for you.
Actually, there is beachfront property in Arizona.
Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Christari Zuborov
SOME system has to suck, and I guess this now replaces Geminate as the crappiest system in game.
Drone regions will continue to suck until the devs decide to put in an even suckier system than it.
Sadly, the Drone Regions have actually been Fixed from what they were when they first came out. Origionaly, the Moons had no minerals at all, then very very poor mins, then the just way below average that we have now. Asteroids used to pop on a single laser cycle (And that took the wonderful guys at CCP over a year to figure out) so the fact that the asteroids actually work is probably a bug.
And even if the goal was to create the worst area in all of Eve, CCP outdid itself: It created 8 whole Regions of sub-par junk.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Princess Jodi
If you think that is comparable to finding a Billion-isk Officer Item, I got some beachfront property in Arizona for you.
Actually, there is beachfront property in Arizona.
Yes, but I didn't promise to sell you the good stuff, now did I?
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El Mauru
Amarr
Nexus Analytics
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:48:00 -
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As a guy who once lived in the drone regions (Frege :-P yeah- ***** jokes or sth)-
I have to say that the drone regions are better now than people make them out to be.
You can actually make quite an ISK off ratting there (comparable to the better/best regions in EVE), you just have to haul the alloys and manufacture stuff.
That was before the introduction of faction drone stuff mind you (on which i have no experience so I can`t comment).
The only thing I agree on with the op is that they sure were kind of bland as far as exploration was concerned.
IMHO, just insert another faction (some kinds of pirates) as a random encounter to break up the monotony of always shooting the same stuff.
That could of course be true for all regions, but holds a special value since the "thrill" of getting "named item x" is/was completely missing in drone space :-P
To sum things up:
Drone regions are fine from a balance standpoint, just more boring than the rest.
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Bob Stuart
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:50:00 -
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The drone regions don't have enough asteroids, nebulae, NPCs that are shaped humorously, such as the shape of mammary glands or reproductive organs. Accordingly they don't have sufficient levels of crass immature humour.
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: El Mauru
....you just have to haul the alloys and manufacture stuff....just more boring than the rest.
Exactly they suck first of to much hassle to haul the alloys and manufacture the stuff, (hauling all back to empire to sell it all is such a pan in the ass not to mention risky). Plus for the most part ratters donĘt have any production/refining skills to make much use of it all anyway. And well as El Mauru said it is just plain f***ing boring....ant nothing going to change that fact. |
Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Richard Phallus on 29/01/2008 14:22:10
Ratter/Production Alt teams FTW!! Throw some trade skills in to take advantage of people with out refining skills too.
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Phallus
Edited by: Richard Phallus on 29/01/2008 14:22:10
Ratter/Production Alt teams FTW!! Throw some trade skills in to take advantage of people with out refining skills too.
Good idea....if your not a pore student like me and can actualy afford to have more than one acount. |
Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Sadly, the Drone Regions have actually been Fixed from what they were when they first came out. Origionaly, the Moons had no minerals at all, then very very poor mins, then the just way below average that we have now. Asteroids used to pop on a single laser cycle (And that took the wonderful guys at CCP over a year to figure out) so the fact that the asteroids actually work is probably a bug.
And even if the goal was to create the worst area in all of Eve, CCP outdid itself: It created 8 whole Regions of sub-par junk.
You forgot the part where drones wouldn't spawn unless you mining. Srsly, had to fit a mining laser on ratting ships for a good month or so before they fixed it.
Exploration in drone-lands is either crappy or broken. So called "officer spawns" are a joke, even if you find one. You got profiteers like the guy above me screwing over his alliance mates, and you need a hauler alt just to rat. Mmm, life is good.
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Rakivic
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Lafail
You forgot the part where drones wouldn't spawn unless you mining. Srsly, had to fit a mining laser on ratting ships for a good month or so before they fixed it.
Exploration in drone-lands is either crappy or broken. So called "officer spawns" are a joke, even if you find one. You got profiteers like the guy above me screwing over his alliance mates, and you need a hauler alt just to rat. Mmm, life is good.
You dont nead a hauler alt just to rat....it dont take much work to train the skills need for a lvl2 hauler like the badger II for ex that is what I use for my hauler when ratting so you dont need a seprate toon just to haul |
Daniel zorg
Caldari
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:44:00 -
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at least you dont have an influx of isk farmers like the rest of us 
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rakivic
You dont nead a hauler alt just to rat....it dont take much work to train the skills need for a lvl2 hauler like the badger II for ex that is what I use for my hauler when ratting so you dont need a seprate toon just to haul
Sure, if you dont mind spending half your ratting time just collecting the isk you already earned.
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heheheh
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:06:00 -
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To put it simply, some space is better than other parts of space, dont like your space, then move to better space.
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Raxxius Maelstrom
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:23:00 -
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Thing is what can you add to the drone regions?
A drone specific set of implants is one idea.
Drone faction gear? might be nice if the drone regions had some decent blueprints.
Spider drones? who wouldn't want those NPC drones from hell?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shurikane
Officer spawns - check.
Hidden mining belts - check.
Hacking sites - check.
Deadspace complexes - check.
I don't see the problem.
Drones have officers?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rakivic
Who hear thinks that the drone regions of eve lack...well pretty much everything in the way of content compared to the faction regions? Because I for one do.
Plenty of content in the drone regions, just ask DMC.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Raxxius Maelstrom
Thing is what can you add to the drone regions?
Exploration sites worth the time and officer spawns that drop decent loot would be nice. Halving the volume of drone **** certainly wouldn't be opposed. Making drone wrecks worth salvaging, nice too.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:43:00 -
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One thing that drone space does have: Plush compound
Your ratters can easily supply you with the vast quantities of tritanium required for ship building - a moderately industrious ratter who sets up chains in a dozen or so belts should be able to provide 7-10M units of trit per day as a by-product of the high-ends he's seeking to export to empire.
In fact all the minerals bar Mexallon are available in great quantities. Logistically, it's a LOT easier to import the Mexallon than the trit required to build ships in quantity. And logistically, Plush is incredibly compressed - it's something like 1/33rd the volume of the minerals obtainable, so it's much easier to use it to supply a manufacturing operation than Veldspar.
So in theory, drone space should be a great place to have a ship building industry. And in fact there is such industry there.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
So in theory, drone space should be a great place to have a ship building industry. And in fact there is such industry there.
It is a good place for cap ship production, Ill give you that, but the amount of trit in plush is negligible when compared to the amount of high-ends obtained from other compounds, all it does is supplement the freighters full of trit/pyr/mex required to use up the high-ends; so, you either haul high-ends to empire, or low-ends to 0.0 (or more likely both).
Unless the high-low balance for ship production is adjusted, lows will always need to be imported (unless you got some hard-core industrial guys).
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:54:00 -
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Our corp just moved to the drone regions and it is a big change from shooting Guristas. For one it is hard to work solo. Their is a role for shooting, for hauling, for refining, for making stuff with the resulting minerals, and for selling all that stuff. If you can get all that done it can be very profitable (or so it seems so far).
With all those steps there is more opportunity for things to go wrong. If your hauler full of finished goods gets ganked going back to empire all that work is lost.
I'm not sure about game content, but so far most of the excitement has come from other players.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. Thompson. |
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