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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:23:00 -
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Now that salary permits, I'm thinking about a Europe trip, maybe next year. You people that live in Europe, please tell me what would be a nice place to go, what to see and what's the best season to do it.
I live in America, so I would like to see places that ARE NOT like America at all. Theme parks and casinos are out. I'm also going with the wife and kids so red districts are out too.
Castles are in. Beautiful places with a lot of historic value are in. Places with great local beer are definitely in. Scenic train trips are in.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:36:00 -
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You need to get yourself one of those nice front wheel drive coupays. A Fiat or summat. Then hitch a ****-all big airstream to it. In their country I think the call it a holiday wagon. Or maybe they call it a stupid-thing-what-goes-on-the-back-of-your-tiny-car-what-can't-properly-pull-it. Then ease down those motorway things they have, and don't worry about the line of motorcars behind you, because you don't need a parade permit in the civilised countries. Cheers!
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 Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: pwnedgato on 30/01/2008 04:42:08
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
US average tip = 15%
Originally by: Crumplecorn
These is a forum for this.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sister Impotentata on 30/01/2008 04:46:50
Originally by: pwnedgato
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
By rights, that true when they come here. Those ******* don't tip worth a damn. If you're going to Rome, learn how Rome works. 
EDIT: If she doesn't spill your soup on you, she should get 20%. That's how it works here. Tip suchwise and happily, and your stay will be very enjoyable. By golly, this might be worth a separate topic.
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TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:46:00 -
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I hate tipping because I'm to lazy to ask for change so I always just round to the next 10. (That's right I pay with this stuff called paper money)
Originally by: Crumplecorn
These is a forum for this.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Castles are in. Beautiful places with a lot of historic value are in. Places with great local beer are definitely in. Scenic train trips are in.
I've been to most countries in Western Europe, and you'll find that sort of thing pretty much in any country you decide to visit, it comes down to what sort of style / local culture & flavor / scenery / gastronomy you prefer.
Regarding beer, my favorite is southern Germany and their Heffe Weissbier, but it's not to everyone's tastes. Gastronomy varies wildly in style, and personally I've eaten the best in Italy, Spain and France.
Scenery-wise, if you like mountains and hiking go to Switzerland or the mountains in northern Spain; if it's rolling hills and forests check out the Black Forest in Germany; dry landscapes and desert-like environments, southern Spain; picturesque little islands either Greece or Italy. But again, you can nevertheless find beautiful scenery and picturesque towns / castles in any country you go, just different styles.
When I was younger I bought a special train offer called "Eurorail": you get a cheap permit to travel around Europe by train as much as you want for a month. Back then it was only for people under 26, but I think they came up some years ago with another one for older people - though I'm not sure.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Edited by: pwnedgato on 30/01/2008 04:42:08
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
US average tip = 15%
Here in Spain it's around 5% or less, and it's not such a great deal as it is in the US if you don't tip. The difference is that in the US waiters are payed relatively less, as it is expected that the tip makes up a significant part of their income, whereas here they pay them better and the tip is seen more as an added bonus for good service.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:34:00 -
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Prague.
or try Azores here in my homely land of Portugal
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:41:00 -
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I have a friend who went to Spain and Portugal some years ago. When in Portugal, he says the beer was so good and abundant that he was able to buy a whole barrel. He showed me a video of himself, almost passed out on the floor, with his face directly below the barrel, drinking from a steady beer stream. That's life! |
Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 30/01/2008 05:46:21
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
I have a friend who went to Spain and Portugal some years ago. When in Portugal, he says the beer was so good and abundant that he was able to buy a whole barrel. He showed me a video of himself, almost passed out on the floor, with his face directly below the barrel, drinking from a steady beer stream. That's life!
beer here is cheap and good, and you can get several types of it (hell you can get peach-flavoured beer ).
there's a funny story about when germans came here during the euro cup back in 2004. Turns out that their beer is so weak in terms of alcoholic content, that when they started to drink our beer like they drink theirs, they got drunk very fast.
much more faster than with their beer.
however I found that story a bit hard to believe since the alcoholic % of our regular beer (blonde one) is arround the 5.1% if I'm not mistaken.
also, if you come to portugal, always ask for the traditional cuisine from here. Feijoada is pwn. just don't eat it by dinner .
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:55:00 -
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Generically speaking:
Paris. Louvre. Eiffel tower. Random establisments. Almost a "must see too".
Rome and Venice. Enough said.
Just about any (ski) resort in the Alps.
Stuff in Romania :
The Danube delta (warning : not this time of the year though ; during spring or early summer, yes).
Bran Castle near Brasov (a.k.a. "Dracula's castle").
The Putna monastery, and others near it all over Moldavia (not Moldova, the country, Moldavia, the region).
And just about any "agro-touristic" resort in Maramures county.
Various linkages : Castles, Delta, Agroturism.
Well, I do live in Romania, so I speak of what I know 
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:16:00 -
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My personal points of interest are driving the autobahn, driving the alps, driving around Nurburgring Nordschleife, and driving over the Millau Viaduct bridge.
Basically, if you see an American going down the autobahn in an M5 doing 180 with a stupid grin on his face, it's probably me.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:40:00 -
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That sounds fun too but, do they drive by the right side lane like it's supposed to? Because I can't find anything more confusing than a whole country driving by the wrong lanes. I prefer to use a taxi if that's the case. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:58:00 -
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Only the islanders (UK).
Everybody else drives on the "right" (heh) side.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
That sounds fun too but, do they drive by the right side lane like it's supposed to? Because I can't find anything more confusing than a whole country driving by the wrong lanes. I prefer to use a taxi if that's the case.
Seriously. I've tried to imagine the concept, and it makes me seasick every time. I watched "Bend it" once, and there was this scene with the blond girl in the car. I kept wondering why she didn't crash, she never looked at the road. Then I eventually realized she weren't driving. 
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TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/01/2008 07:24:31
It's usually like this (reverse is on a different, lower level... neutral is in the middle on the upper level):
R135
..24
I only drove "automatic" once.
Felt really weird, and not in a good way.
Don't feel like trying again.
Shifting (properly) is like, half the fun of driving.
A third is overtaking/tailing.
The final sixth is cutting corners or just speeding.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
It's usually like this:
R135
.24
I only drove "automatic" once.
Felt really weird, and not in a good way.
Don't feel like trying again.
Holly molly! You have the Reverse where the 1st shift go!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:27:00 -
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See edit :)
You have to either push the stick downwards (older models, single rod) or "squish" the handle and the handle-rest (rod into cylinder kind of thing, or dual rods, on modern models) before you can "engage reverse".
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:55:00 -
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OK. The pattern is the same. But we have reverse on either side depending on manufacturer.
Reverse off first, with a lockout, is typical of vee-dubs and modern 'roos. Reverse off fifth (or sixth) is typical of American cars, Mazdas, and Toymotors. Both have their merits. When reverse is off first, the one-two rail has more play and is harder to engage, has more slack, and loses more energy. When reverse is off fifth/sixth, the slack and energy loss happens at highway speeds. Which is better depends on where you intend to use your car. City or Highway. "Highway" in the US doesn't mean 300 kph for 10 km, it means 140 kph for 600 km. Our roads suck, but they're long.
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TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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Rana Ash
Minmatar
Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:54:00 -
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Pssh, Europe. Nothing there really , if you want to see nice things come to Sweden.
Especially in the summer, Stockholm and then go up north to see the midnight sun. Corse you could have fun in Gothenburg as well, and then go up north..
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Aiwaz
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:59:00 -
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Come to Ireland
Find your roots
Drink Guinness
Go Home
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Transfer chick
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rana Ash
Pssh, Europe. Nothing there really , if you want to see nice things come to Sweden.
Especially in the summer, Stockholm and then go up north to see the midnight sun. Corse you could have fun in Gothenburg as well, and then go up north..
(Swede here.)
Never really understood why anyone would come to Sweden on their vacation.
Not much to see here, unless maybe you are in to the nature stuff, with lovely mountains and all, but then you'd be even better off in either Norway or somewhere in the alps.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Transfer chick
Originally by: Rana Ash
Pssh, Europe. Nothing there really , if you want to see nice things come to Sweden.
Especially in the summer, Stockholm and then go up north to see the midnight sun. Corse you could have fun in Gothenburg as well, and then go up north..
(Swede here.)
Never really understood why anyone would come to Sweden on their vacation.
Not much to see here, unless maybe you are in to the nature stuff, with lovely mountains and all, but then you'd be even better off in either Norway or somewhere in the alps.
In all fairness I'd go to the Stockholm Archipelago myself but as for Norway and Lappland, you'd have to pay me to visit those desolate wastes.
I'd avoid the UK unless you're an anglofile and aim for southern France and possibly some of that largely untouched wilderness in eastern Europe, Romania comes to mind.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:46:00 -
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the city of visby on the iland of gotland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visby
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Johraiken Fenris
Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:52:00 -
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What you are describing, is Prague.
Great history, GREAT beer.
You can make trips to other "nearby" cities as Vienna, Budapest, and Bratislava, all with great history and castles.
Other options include a concentration camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp_Theresienstadt).
The natural scene in the Chech Republic is also quite beautiful.
Furthermore, "eastern" Europe outside the main city centres is still reasonably cheap, if you need to take into account current Euro/Dollar exhange rates. The English of the locals might not be as good, as lets say the Netherlands, but I'm sure you can manage. From what I know, the younger generation usually is pretty proficient in it.
Johr
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Johraiken Fenris
What you are describing, is Prague.
Great history, GREAT beer.
You can make trips to other "nearby" cities as Vienna, Budapest, and Bratislava, all with great history and castles.
Other options include a concentration camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp_Theresienstadt).
The natural scene in the Chech Republic is also quite beautiful.
Furthermore, "eastern" Europe outside the main city centres is still reasonably cheap, if you need to take into account current Euro/Dollar exhange rates. The English of the locals might not be as good, as lets say the Netherlands, but I'm sure you can manage. From what I know, the younger generation usually is pretty proficient in it.
Johr
oh yes.
I always wanted to visit Prague.
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Valan
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Only the islanders (UK).
Everybody else drives on the "right" (heh) side.
lol kinda off topic but we actually drive correctly.
Back in the day we rode on the left so we could draw our swords and attack the guy coming down the right hand side.
But peasants and wagon drivers drove on the right (carebears).
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:18:00 -
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Tips in Edinburgh are around 5%, but the waiters are paid so much they have to give exemplary service to get a tip, didn't know you were allowed to factor them into wages
Edinburgh, come here, it is worth it as the most beautiful city in Europe, festivals in the summer from around the world perform in the Fringe and we have the Edinburgh Castle, essentialy a Citadel still used as a military base in the heart of the city.
We have the benefit of speaking English allready.
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Frontline.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:40:00 -
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UK: York, London (obviously), Scotland, Wales and Ireland have nice places, far too many to mention.
France: Paris (obviously), Rouen, Xambres, any Wine Centre (beautiful and tasty)
Germany: Bavaria is beautiful, lots of fairytale style castles etc. The cities tend to be historical in nature.
Italy: Avoid dumps like Milan (pollution is a killer) but Rome is worth the air pollution coughs. Florence is a 'must'.
Spain @ Portugal: Most areas of these 2 countries are great to visit. Historical castles, towns, markets etc. The beaches aint bad either 
Greece & Cyprus & Malta: Fantastically 'olde worlde' feeling about them, with that new 'modern style' thrown in for good measure. Athens and the Acropolis is a never to be forgotten experience. The birthland of democracy, science and medicine. Malta is wonderful and the people (mostly) are kind, warm and very welcoming. Cyprus is so nice I even bought a house there (regretfully sold 3 yrs ago). The locals arent 'Brit' fans but the yanks have favoured status.
Hungary is great, the people nice, the girls gorgeous and the cities wonderful.
Poland I like, its maybe a bit dirty but the people are great.
I havent visited any of the other 'new' European states so I cant say anything about them.
Avoid Turkey like the plague. Everything about it is bad, the people, the food, the culture, the government, the tourists spots etc. As an American I can guarentee that you and your family will get a hard time and some intimidation at the very least.
I wont recommend any foods or drinks. Each region/country/populus has its own style and tastes. Try to try them all and your tastebuds will be your friend forever.
I would however, recommend that you decide to visit just the one country and to base yourself there. If you try to see everything available you simply wont have time to actually stop and enjoy the experience. If you have the time and the money, catch a plane to somewhere else, its only a short trip anywhere around Europe.
Have fun and welcome to our land
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:14:00 -
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Just remember British humor is different, and we try and worm it into most conversations.
A rubber is in the US of A, an Erasor.
The Continent is the Europe.
Saying "isn't that a bit of a personal question" when being asked whether you want a 6" or 12" sandwhich is normal, I heard a guy got arrested for saying this in NYC.
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