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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:23:00 -
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Now that salary permits, I'm thinking about a Europe trip, maybe next year. You people that live in Europe, please tell me what would be a nice place to go, what to see and what's the best season to do it.
I live in America, so I would like to see places that ARE NOT like America at all. Theme parks and casinos are out. I'm also going with the wife and kids so red districts are out too.
Castles are in. Beautiful places with a lot of historic value are in. Places with great local beer are definitely in. Scenic train trips are in.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:36:00 -
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You need to get yourself one of those nice front wheel drive coupays. A Fiat or summat. Then hitch a ****-all big airstream to it. In their country I think the call it a holiday wagon. Or maybe they call it a stupid-thing-what-goes-on-the-back-of-your-tiny-car-what-can't-properly-pull-it. Then ease down those motorway things they have, and don't worry about the line of motorcars behind you, because you don't need a parade permit in the civilised countries. Cheers!
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 Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: pwnedgato on 30/01/2008 04:42:08
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
US average tip = 15%
Originally by: Crumplecorn
These is a forum for this.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sister Impotentata on 30/01/2008 04:46:50
Originally by: pwnedgato
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
By rights, that true when they come here. Those ******* don't tip worth a damn. If you're going to Rome, learn how Rome works. 
EDIT: If she doesn't spill your soup on you, she should get 20%. That's how it works here. Tip suchwise and happily, and your stay will be very enjoyable. By golly, this might be worth a separate topic.
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TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:46:00 -
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I hate tipping because I'm to lazy to ask for change so I always just round to the next 10. (That's right I pay with this stuff called paper money)
Originally by: Crumplecorn
These is a forum for this.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Castles are in. Beautiful places with a lot of historic value are in. Places with great local beer are definitely in. Scenic train trips are in.
I've been to most countries in Western Europe, and you'll find that sort of thing pretty much in any country you decide to visit, it comes down to what sort of style / local culture & flavor / scenery / gastronomy you prefer.
Regarding beer, my favorite is southern Germany and their Heffe Weissbier, but it's not to everyone's tastes. Gastronomy varies wildly in style, and personally I've eaten the best in Italy, Spain and France.
Scenery-wise, if you like mountains and hiking go to Switzerland or the mountains in northern Spain; if it's rolling hills and forests check out the Black Forest in Germany; dry landscapes and desert-like environments, southern Spain; picturesque little islands either Greece or Italy. But again, you can nevertheless find beautiful scenery and picturesque towns / castles in any country you go, just different styles.
When I was younger I bought a special train offer called "Eurorail": you get a cheap permit to travel around Europe by train as much as you want for a month. Back then it was only for people under 26, but I think they came up some years ago with another one for older people - though I'm not sure.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Edited by: pwnedgato on 30/01/2008 04:42:08
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
US average tip = 15%
Here in Spain it's around 5% or less, and it's not such a great deal as it is in the US if you don't tip. The difference is that in the US waiters are payed relatively less, as it is expected that the tip makes up a significant part of their income, whereas here they pay them better and the tip is seen more as an added bonus for good service.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:34:00 -
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Prague.
or try Azores here in my homely land of Portugal
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:41:00 -
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I have a friend who went to Spain and Portugal some years ago. When in Portugal, he says the beer was so good and abundant that he was able to buy a whole barrel. He showed me a video of himself, almost passed out on the floor, with his face directly below the barrel, drinking from a steady beer stream. That's life! |
Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 30/01/2008 05:46:21
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
I have a friend who went to Spain and Portugal some years ago. When in Portugal, he says the beer was so good and abundant that he was able to buy a whole barrel. He showed me a video of himself, almost passed out on the floor, with his face directly below the barrel, drinking from a steady beer stream. That's life!
beer here is cheap and good, and you can get several types of it (hell you can get peach-flavoured beer ).
there's a funny story about when germans came here during the euro cup back in 2004. Turns out that their beer is so weak in terms of alcoholic content, that when they started to drink our beer like they drink theirs, they got drunk very fast.
much more faster than with their beer.
however I found that story a bit hard to believe since the alcoholic % of our regular beer (blonde one) is arround the 5.1% if I'm not mistaken.
also, if you come to portugal, always ask for the traditional cuisine from here. Feijoada is pwn. just don't eat it by dinner .
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:55:00 -
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Generically speaking:
Paris. Louvre. Eiffel tower. Random establisments. Almost a "must see too".
Rome and Venice. Enough said.
Just about any (ski) resort in the Alps.
Stuff in Romania :
The Danube delta (warning : not this time of the year though ; during spring or early summer, yes).
Bran Castle near Brasov (a.k.a. "Dracula's castle").
The Putna monastery, and others near it all over Moldavia (not Moldova, the country, Moldavia, the region).
And just about any "agro-touristic" resort in Maramures county.
Various linkages : Castles, Delta, Agroturism.
Well, I do live in Romania, so I speak of what I know 
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:16:00 -
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My personal points of interest are driving the autobahn, driving the alps, driving around Nurburgring Nordschleife, and driving over the Millau Viaduct bridge.
Basically, if you see an American going down the autobahn in an M5 doing 180 with a stupid grin on his face, it's probably me.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:40:00 -
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That sounds fun too but, do they drive by the right side lane like it's supposed to? Because I can't find anything more confusing than a whole country driving by the wrong lanes. I prefer to use a taxi if that's the case. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:58:00 -
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Only the islanders (UK).
Everybody else drives on the "right" (heh) side.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
That sounds fun too but, do they drive by the right side lane like it's supposed to? Because I can't find anything more confusing than a whole country driving by the wrong lanes. I prefer to use a taxi if that's the case.
Seriously. I've tried to imagine the concept, and it makes me seasick every time. I watched "Bend it" once, and there was this scene with the blond girl in the car. I kept wondering why she didn't crash, she never looked at the road. Then I eventually realized she weren't driving. 
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TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/01/2008 07:24:31
It's usually like this (reverse is on a different, lower level... neutral is in the middle on the upper level):
R135
..24
I only drove "automatic" once.
Felt really weird, and not in a good way.
Don't feel like trying again.
Shifting (properly) is like, half the fun of driving.
A third is overtaking/tailing.
The final sixth is cutting corners or just speeding.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
It's usually like this:
R135
.24
I only drove "automatic" once.
Felt really weird, and not in a good way.
Don't feel like trying again.
Holly molly! You have the Reverse where the 1st shift go!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:27:00 -
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See edit :)
You have to either push the stick downwards (older models, single rod) or "squish" the handle and the handle-rest (rod into cylinder kind of thing, or dual rods, on modern models) before you can "engage reverse".
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:55:00 -
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OK. The pattern is the same. But we have reverse on either side depending on manufacturer.
Reverse off first, with a lockout, is typical of vee-dubs and modern 'roos. Reverse off fifth (or sixth) is typical of American cars, Mazdas, and Toymotors. Both have their merits. When reverse is off first, the one-two rail has more play and is harder to engage, has more slack, and loses more energy. When reverse is off fifth/sixth, the slack and energy loss happens at highway speeds. Which is better depends on where you intend to use your car. City or Highway. "Highway" in the US doesn't mean 300 kph for 10 km, it means 140 kph for 600 km. Our roads suck, but they're long.
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Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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Rana Ash
Minmatar
Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:54:00 -
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Pssh, Europe. Nothing there really , if you want to see nice things come to Sweden.
Especially in the summer, Stockholm and then go up north to see the midnight sun. Corse you could have fun in Gothenburg as well, and then go up north..
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Aiwaz
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:59:00 -
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Come to Ireland
Find your roots
Drink Guinness
Go Home
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Transfer chick
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rana Ash
Pssh, Europe. Nothing there really , if you want to see nice things come to Sweden.
Especially in the summer, Stockholm and then go up north to see the midnight sun. Corse you could have fun in Gothenburg as well, and then go up north..
(Swede here.)
Never really understood why anyone would come to Sweden on their vacation.
Not much to see here, unless maybe you are in to the nature stuff, with lovely mountains and all, but then you'd be even better off in either Norway or somewhere in the alps.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Transfer chick
Originally by: Rana Ash
Pssh, Europe. Nothing there really , if you want to see nice things come to Sweden.
Especially in the summer, Stockholm and then go up north to see the midnight sun. Corse you could have fun in Gothenburg as well, and then go up north..
(Swede here.)
Never really understood why anyone would come to Sweden on their vacation.
Not much to see here, unless maybe you are in to the nature stuff, with lovely mountains and all, but then you'd be even better off in either Norway or somewhere in the alps.
In all fairness I'd go to the Stockholm Archipelago myself but as for Norway and Lappland, you'd have to pay me to visit those desolate wastes.
I'd avoid the UK unless you're an anglofile and aim for southern France and possibly some of that largely untouched wilderness in eastern Europe, Romania comes to mind.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:46:00 -
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the city of visby on the iland of gotland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visby
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Johraiken Fenris
Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:52:00 -
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What you are describing, is Prague.
Great history, GREAT beer.
You can make trips to other "nearby" cities as Vienna, Budapest, and Bratislava, all with great history and castles.
Other options include a concentration camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp_Theresienstadt).
The natural scene in the Chech Republic is also quite beautiful.
Furthermore, "eastern" Europe outside the main city centres is still reasonably cheap, if you need to take into account current Euro/Dollar exhange rates. The English of the locals might not be as good, as lets say the Netherlands, but I'm sure you can manage. From what I know, the younger generation usually is pretty proficient in it.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Johraiken Fenris
What you are describing, is Prague.
Great history, GREAT beer.
You can make trips to other "nearby" cities as Vienna, Budapest, and Bratislava, all with great history and castles.
Other options include a concentration camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp_Theresienstadt).
The natural scene in the Chech Republic is also quite beautiful.
Furthermore, "eastern" Europe outside the main city centres is still reasonably cheap, if you need to take into account current Euro/Dollar exhange rates. The English of the locals might not be as good, as lets say the Netherlands, but I'm sure you can manage. From what I know, the younger generation usually is pretty proficient in it.
Johr
oh yes.
I always wanted to visit Prague.
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Valan
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Only the islanders (UK).
Everybody else drives on the "right" (heh) side.
lol kinda off topic but we actually drive correctly.
Back in the day we rode on the left so we could draw our swords and attack the guy coming down the right hand side.
But peasants and wagon drivers drove on the right (carebears).
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:18:00 -
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Tips in Edinburgh are around 5%, but the waiters are paid so much they have to give exemplary service to get a tip, didn't know you were allowed to factor them into wages
Edinburgh, come here, it is worth it as the most beautiful city in Europe, festivals in the summer from around the world perform in the Fringe and we have the Edinburgh Castle, essentialy a Citadel still used as a military base in the heart of the city.
We have the benefit of speaking English allready.
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Frontline.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:40:00 -
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UK: York, London (obviously), Scotland, Wales and Ireland have nice places, far too many to mention.
France: Paris (obviously), Rouen, Xambres, any Wine Centre (beautiful and tasty)
Germany: Bavaria is beautiful, lots of fairytale style castles etc. The cities tend to be historical in nature.
Italy: Avoid dumps like Milan (pollution is a killer) but Rome is worth the air pollution coughs. Florence is a 'must'.
Spain @ Portugal: Most areas of these 2 countries are great to visit. Historical castles, towns, markets etc. The beaches aint bad either 
Greece & Cyprus & Malta: Fantastically 'olde worlde' feeling about them, with that new 'modern style' thrown in for good measure. Athens and the Acropolis is a never to be forgotten experience. The birthland of democracy, science and medicine. Malta is wonderful and the people (mostly) are kind, warm and very welcoming. Cyprus is so nice I even bought a house there (regretfully sold 3 yrs ago). The locals arent 'Brit' fans but the yanks have favoured status.
Hungary is great, the people nice, the girls gorgeous and the cities wonderful.
Poland I like, its maybe a bit dirty but the people are great.
I havent visited any of the other 'new' European states so I cant say anything about them.
Avoid Turkey like the plague. Everything about it is bad, the people, the food, the culture, the government, the tourists spots etc. As an American I can guarentee that you and your family will get a hard time and some intimidation at the very least.
I wont recommend any foods or drinks. Each region/country/populus has its own style and tastes. Try to try them all and your tastebuds will be your friend forever.
I would however, recommend that you decide to visit just the one country and to base yourself there. If you try to see everything available you simply wont have time to actually stop and enjoy the experience. If you have the time and the money, catch a plane to somewhere else, its only a short trip anywhere around Europe.
Have fun and welcome to our land
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:14:00 -
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Just remember British humor is different, and we try and worm it into most conversations.
A rubber is in the US of A, an Erasor.
The Continent is the Europe.
Saying "isn't that a bit of a personal question" when being asked whether you want a 6" or 12" sandwhich is normal, I heard a guy got arrested for saying this in NYC.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Saying "isn't that a bit of a personal question" when being asked whether you want a 6" or 12" sandwhich is normal, I heard a guy got arrested for saying this in NYC.
for a sammich?
damn yanks are crazy, I tells ya!
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Kirjava
Saying "isn't that a bit of a personal question" when being asked whether you want a 6" or 12" sandwhich is normal, I heard a guy got arrested for saying this in NYC.
for a sammich?
damn yanks are crazy, I tells ya!
Thats what I thought.
Apparently the girl at the till hit some sort of panic button as she thought he was going to *****her.
What the hell 
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Thats what I thought.
Apparently the girl at the till hit some sort of panic button as she thought he was going to *****her.
What the hell
I can't go to the US then. corp mates say that I have german **** actor voice. I could scare them girls with the voice alone
wich is funny since I don't have any german relatives nor I live near germany
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
Back in the day we rode on the left so we could draw our swords and attack the guy coming down the right hand side.
But peasants and wagon drivers drove on the right (carebears).
That makes sense. I suppose you already know then that's why castle towers have stairs that wind clockwise? So the defenders can use their sword hands while the attackers' sword hands are against the wall.
Originally by: Grimpak
for a sammich?
damn yanks are crazy, I tells ya!
Worst part is that we're starting to call them "sammies" now. How corny is that?
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Originally by: Tommy
I've go' the Scourges son. I thin' it's you wha' sh' b'ave. Wha'? You wa' aa' see 'f I go' tha' minerals?
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: kessah on 30/01/2008 17:05:03
Cornwall & Devon England, Go on to Dartmoor
Thats a nice place.
Glastonbury aswell again very pretty ALOT of history, if your ever interested in History England's pretty high up on what it can offer there.
Also Plymouth should be a nice place, alot of American come there, since its where alot of you set off from many years ago Lots of naval history etc.
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Deverian Tarik
Caldari
Hunt and Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Castles are in. Beautiful places with a lot of historic value are in. Places with great local beer are definitely in. Scenic train trips are in.
Scotland. As you as you don't mind it being ****ing down with rain 80% of the time, and cloudy another 15%.
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Now that salary permits, I'm thinking about a Europe trip, maybe next year. You people that live in Europe, please tell me what would be a nice place to go, what to see and what's the best season to do it.
I live in America, so I would like to see places that ARE NOT like America at all. Theme parks and casinos are out. I'm also going with the wife and kids so red districts are out too.
Castles are in. Beautiful places with a lot of historic value are in. Places with great local beer are definitely in. Scenic train trips are in.
Dude, take my advice skip europe altogether and hit the orient. Korea, Thailand, Singapore. Austrailia is nice too. Doesnt matter, east or west Perth/Freemantle, melbourne, sydney...all good!
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
The Space Bastards
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:21:00 -
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Come to kent! its the garden of eng.. no wait its a housing estate.. never mind.
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
I only drove "automatic" once.
Felt really weird, and not in a good way.
Don't feel like trying again.
Shifting (properly) is like, half the fun of driving.
A third is overtaking/tailing.
The final sixth is cutting corners or just speeding.
Agreed. I started driving manuals ~2 years ago, and I won't go back. Whenever I happen to be in an automatic, my left leg gets a twitch, like it wants to help out, but there's nothing for it to do.
Automatics are the norm in America, and there are a depressing number of cars that you can't even get with a stick. Mazda is about the only manufacturer here that puts a stick in everything anymore (including their minivan, although this would be its only redeeming feature).
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You have to either push the stick downwards (older models, single rod) or "squish" the handle and the handle-rest (rod into cylinder kind of thing, or dual rods, on modern models) before you can "engage reverse".
I test drove a BMW 3-series (325i, IIRC) a few months ago. As I recall, the way to engage reverse was "pull very hard", which is one of the few things I didn't like about the car.
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Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:00:00 -
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Well if you want castles in Europe why not go to the best one?
Warwick Castle is the best preserved example of a proper castle, if you visit in the summer they put on allsorts of demonstrations from archery and swordsmanship to a trebuchet and jousting.
Being in Warwickshire puts you in the heart of the Shires and within easy reach of most of the interesing parts of Great Britain.
Im starting to sound like a travel agent so ill stop here.
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hattifnatt
Gallente
The Movement
Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: hattifnatt on 30/01/2008 21:19:12
Chernobyl.
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Royaldo
Gallente
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:23:00 -
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prague and budapest
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DarknessInc
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:28:00 -
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go to Switzerland. Fly in to Geneva, take the train to Aigle, then the cog train up to Leysin. Find the bar called le Saloon. If there is a bartender working named bruno, ask if he knows jhon from the US. :)
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Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:11:00 -
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Go to Scotland. Amazing scenery and different culture.
As for castles, Edinburgh castle on the mainland is great, but I would suggest you go to Isle Of Arran and visit Bro**** Castle.
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das licht
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:22:00 -
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Visit the capitol of the 'holy roman empire'!
Looki looki, it's a secret place.
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Roxanna Kell
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Edited by: pwnedgato on 30/01/2008 04:42:08
I've heard that in europe you guys don't tip as much/at all. Is that true?
US average tip = 15%
well, our moeny is worth more sooooooooo.
and yeah we don't tip as much, because our waitereses our paid 3 times more than yours.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:53:00 -
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in the UK people only usually tip if they fancy the waitress  It's far from customary and in no way whatsoever expected.
You pay for what you get and likewise they are paid well for what they do. A "thank you" is about the only thing that's customary.
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kappas. on 30/01/2008 23:42:44
Come to Scotland.
Bring a good jacket.
And a fleece.
/me listens to the wind outside... Maybe two fleeces.
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.31 00:41:00 -
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Anywhere in Europe is different from the US. Depends on what kind of cheese you like.
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.31 01:04:00 -
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the UK - london - the Tate Modern, the Wallace Collection, the Tower. cambridge, kings, and jesus. dont walk on the grass. up to edinburgh or york for actual history too. Good pubs, cheaper than england. The lake district or highlands for views - go for a walk in grasmere or derwent, or drive along loch ness up north.
Paris - everywhere. including the red light areas. Pigalle is fantastic, without being too red for kids. the Louvre can take a week for everything - dont go just to see the Venus De Milo or the Mona Lisa - infact, go to the MusTe d'Orsay instead for culture. then head into the dordogne or languedoc.
italy - milan for the style, (dont drive there. it's insane) florence and venice for history. Remember, all italians are genetically engineered to think they're Alberto Ascari the moment they sit behind a wheel, and rent a tank... even a fiat 500 will break mach numbers in the hands of an italian.
norway - stave churches and some stunning landscapes.
from there, head into the baltic, through Denmark, up to Sweden, then over through finland, estonia, latvia, and into poland. Riga in summer. wow.
Spain - the Alhambra, Barcelona - gaudi museum.
Monaco, just to say you've been there.
prague, god so much stuff. I still intend to take my other half there someday.
the alps - go walking in the alps - you'll always find beerhouses at the top of lethal walks.
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Yarrick
Amarr
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.01.31 01:05:00 -
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Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I haven't read all of the posts.
But if you want an amazing castle, visit Carcasonne in France. I was absolutely gob smacked when I visted. A truley amazing place.
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=carcassonne&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.31 10:36:00 -
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not a castle, but if you come to portugal, go visit Pena National Palace in Sintra
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.01.31 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: LaVista Vista on 31/01/2008 10:48:13
Go to Denmark. Copenhagen is nice during the early summer.
Also, extremely friendly people. Who's all very happy. Proof.
If you wanna see something stunning, Austria. Im not sure if its good for families without car. But the view is stunning.
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Rutefly
Amarr
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.31 11:26:00 -
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Denmark have the best bacon and beer in europe. 'Nuff said.
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Radix Salvilines
VENA GROUP
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Posted - 2008.01.31 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
Poland I like, its maybe a bit dirty but the people are great.
@#!^%**@@!!!!!
Have you only been in Warsaw? :P
Other places are nice. Recommendations:
Village Grunwald - a place where one of the greatest battles in medieval europe took place in 1410. You can see the armory, walk the fields of battle... feels strange to walk there where so many peoples had lost their lifes.
Malbork - Knights of the Cross capital fortess - one of the biggest and impressive structures build in medieval Europe.
Tatra mountains - its great to climb up (good summits to climb up - Three Crowns and Rysy, Gerlach on the Czech's side. Try also Sea's Eye (morskie oko) and see that THERE IS NO DIRT in the view :P One has to go there :)
Imho these are the best places to go in Poland, there are a lot more but it would take a few pages to describe them all :)
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RoSsCs
Caldari
Jupiter Mining Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.01.31 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: RoSsCs on 31/01/2008 16:16:26
You've gotta come to England for sure, London is great.
Other parts of the UK are good too, Remeber Great Britian is composed of 3 countries England, Scotland and Wales, and you don't need to show your passport at the England/Scotland or England/Wales border.
Don't mean to sound patronising, but I have spoken with Americans that think the borders in Britain are controlled.
London - Tower of London, London Eye, Westiminster Abbey, see the Houses of parliament builing, lots of Museums, Natural History, Science, Tate Modern and much more.
Edit - Scotland Border Sign
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Starquinia
Minmatar
Starfield United Technologies LLP
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Posted - 2008.01.31 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Starquinia on 31/01/2008 16:47:29
Originally by: Zaphroid Eulthran
Well if you want castles in Europe why not go to the best one?
Warwick Castle is the best preserved example of a proper castle, if you visit in the summer they put on allsorts of demonstrations from archery and swordsmanship to a trebuchet and jousting.
Being in Warwickshire puts you in the heart of the Shires and within easy reach of most of the interesing parts of Great Britain.
Im starting to sound like a travel agent so ill stop here.
Call that a castle? Now thats a castle!
For baroque niceness try Eger in Hungary.
For fantasy castles go to Bavaria and check out the Neuschwanstein castle and the village of Rothenburg ob der Tauber (Both of which featured in the film "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". Bring your kids and tell 'em the Child Catchers gonna get them!  )
edit: Spelling numptiness :-(
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Killer Dragon
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.01.31 16:52:00 -
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just skip Europe all together, i am here at the moment and the weather is crap.... Go to Brazil... visit Fortaleza or Natal, you'll enjoy your vacation much more 
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.31 16:58:00 -
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i think it's time to do some amsterdammage!
go in the spring .
the van goh museum is nice...
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.01.31 17:45:00 -
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La Grande Galerie de l'Evolution in Paris. It has to be seen to be believed. Someone's photo.
Les Invalides is also worth a look, even if you can only spare an hour. Buy your ticket, and if I remember correctly, the first corridor on your left takes you past a hundred foot long glass cabinet showing the centuries of evolution of the rifle, one change at a time from early muskets to the present day. That one display is worth the admission.
If in the UK, Conwy Castle and Caernarfon Castle if you like that sort of thing. Real castles, not those European wedding cake decorations. Bring raincoats for everyone.
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Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.31 19:21:00 -
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Visit a D÷ner Kebab station in Istanbul.
Very good dinner.
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KamiKaZantA
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Posted - 2008.01.31 20:26:00 -
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You could visit Vadstena in Sweden if you want some history. You can visit Vadstena Castle and Alvastra Abbey. A short trip by car and you get to Omberg which is a very nice place to walk around during the summer with a beautiful beech forest.
Lots of hiking trails and a very good view of the surounding areas when you are on top of the... (I think I call Omberg a very large hill (250 or 350 meters in height, I dont remeber))... hill if the weather is clear.
I would recommend you stay out of the surounding towns of +desh÷g, HSstholmen, Boxholm and Mj÷lby since they are the arm-pits of the area.
Vadstena and Motala during the summer can be real nice. A refreashing swim in the nearby lake of VSttern maybe can pick your intreast (if you like to swim in 7 degrees C
"warm" water)
There is a canal going right through Motala which is quite buissie/bussy/balls>< with boats during the summer. Had you visited Motala Canal a decade ago you could have visited the cafT my moms best friend and her husband owned back then.
As you can see in the links, Vadstena and Motala are not very populus so don't expect anything in the way of night-life. You have to go to Stockholm, Gotheburg or Malm÷ for that.
Vadstena = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadstena
Alvastra Abbey = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvastra_Abbey
Motala = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motala
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.01 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: hattifnatt
Edited by: hattifnatt on 30/01/2008 21:19:12
Chernobyl.
I've been there (well 50 kilometers south of it)
If your coming to europe stop off in Ireland, take a drive along the atlantic coast, the wind and rain is 4TW
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xyeLz
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Posted - 2008.02.01 11:55:00 -
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Been living in Amsterdam for 17 years now and it's pretty lame. (to me).
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