They are perhaps MORE mad that there was never an NDA leak at all

I just don't get why anyone but CCP themselves would care about NDA?

There's no disputing that you violated the NDA. You were just lucky enough that CCP didn't care about what you leaked and they wanted to avoid the negative publicity.

The fact that they are allowing both people involved in the breach to run for the next CSM reflects rather poorly on them, however.

There's no disputing that you violated the NDA. You were just lucky enough that CCP didn't care about what you leaked and they wanted to avoid the negative publicity.

The fact that they are allowing both people involved in the breach to run for the next CSM reflects rather poorly on them, however.

Well if people just hate him based on not keeping some NDA from us and stuff then I'd rather vote for him than the others. Unless CSM is another word for CCP employee guarding their interests while the CSM says "We ehm they got cool stuff coming but I can't talk about it, please keep subscribing". Or am I confused as to what is going on?

I just never heard of the phenomena about gamers being so concerned with NDA and stuff.

CSM started as a bone thrown to the players from CCP. Us players crave the bone thrown to us and desire to bite it immensely. Darius breaking rules others had to follow and still being able to bite of the bone and slobber on it, pisses off the other CSM and some players.

The bone might not attract you or maybe it does. But be warned its the only bone you will get, so choose wisely.

I don't get it So he broke NDA or not, whatever but for the sake of argument he did, to us gamers, right? And the other CSM are angry because breaking an NDA could hurt CCP because of competition? Or... I need a smoke now

You tried to hold space in null sec. You failed. It's understandable, it's a rough place.

You tried to go after carebears in incursions with your gimmick attempt to draw attention to yourself. You failed horribly. In fact, the carebears put aside their differences and turned your MOM liberation fleets into a prolific joke over and over again. They had lots of fun hearing your fleets burn, your ships go pop and your members cry about not getting paid. Now nobody trusts you in a leadership role (well, the smart ones can see through your steaming pile of stupid).

YOU FAILED AGAINST CAREBEARS AND THEY DRANK YOUR TEARS WITH PROLIFIC ORGASMIC LUST. This is unacceptable.

I couldn't care about the CSM until I heard about your infamous demonstration of incompetence. I'm going to throw all my votes on Drapo Llasa because if he wins and you don't, you will cocoon yourself into a pod in the fetal position and try to inject yourself into any womb that would support your poison presence. EVE will laugh and toast as another terrible representative of the human race is removed with a justified abortion.

Keep being you, but the jester cannot be king.

The CSM system works because the people involved are able to have discussions away from public scrutiny. In these discussions they can talk openly about the benefits or detriments of some pretty far reaching ideas without having to justify positions taken or just playing to hypotheticals.

When a member of the CSM delegation leaks internal chatlogs that have been understood to be NDA protected, they breach the trust of not only the fellow CSM and CCP Development teams that work in the channel, but also with the players who count on the CSM to have those conversations in a productive manner.

D3 broke that trust. While the leak wasn't 'core' NDA material and CCP chose to disregard it as an NDA violation because they were already looking pretty bad and the riots were just around the corner, it doesn't mean that D3 didn't break that trust.

Our job as constituents is to remind future voters that the candidate has a record of poor performance. Coupled with the report of another CSM that he's largely been an absentee representative, the hope is that he doesn't wind up sapping votes away from other viable candidates who would be better suited to represent player interests and maintain adherence to the NDA.

Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member. Being a CSM who never participated and was largely AWOL for the vast majority of his term is a bigger reason to not consider him.

Please tell me I am wrong and why, or I will cast my to darius!

Ok finally someone who speaks with reason then. To me NDA is a company thing, not something I care for as a gamer, I'd rather have more insight than less into what CSM and CCP does than the opposite.

So you are saying Darius never did a good job basically?

Easy peasy: Let's say you wanted to discuss changing wardec mechanics. 5 devs and 7 CSM sit down and start talking. They go over existing mechanics and throw out some wild ideas about changes that could be made. if there are 12 people in the room, the conversation can be fairly productive as long as you've got decent leaders keeping everyone on topic.

Now, try to have that same conversation in an arena with 500 people observing who can throw their opinions in at any time and realistically, no one to control the mob.

Which group gets more work done?

Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member. Being a CSM who never participated and was largely AWOL for the vast majority of his term is a bigger reason to not consider him.

Good job implies 'job' which means something was done be it good or bad.

words.

Yeah but during the meeting those 500 people are not there and those that do attend the meeting should be able to handle the pressure and publicity afterwards not to mention knowing that what they say will be scrutinized. If they can't then they are worse than the random youtube video blogger. Meaning, they don't deserve my vote. Their position comes with the price of sticking ones neck out there, in return they get a lot we don't.

This man speaks truth.