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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:18:00 -
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Right-wing commies. Leftist ****s. Point their fingers. Rumours linger.
We don't care what you think. We don't care what you think.
Branded sexist. Labelled racist. Want it clearer? Check the mirror.
We don't care We don't care what you think. what you think. We don't care We don't care what you think.
Lies and slander in vain try to shame us. Riots, protests, violence just makes us famous.
TV interviews, free publicity. Increase record sales dramatically
The left they say I'm a facist. The right calling me a communist.
Hate hate hate hatred for all - one and all. No matter what you believe. Don't believe in you - and that's true.
Yeah.
We hate everyone We hate everyone.
Some would say that we're biased. Accusations that we are racist.
Well, **** comes in all hues. Now this means you. 'cause things ain't always like they seem. Like they seem.
We hate everyone. We hate everyone. We hate everyone. We hate everyone.
We hate We hate, We hate We hate.
We don't care What you think, We don't care What you think.
We don't care We don't care What you think What you think, We don't care We don't care What you think.
We don't give a ****. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
Misfitsa
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:20:00 -
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i hate them because they all look hideous im superficial like that
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Tiberius Caesar
Sothebys
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:21:00 -
[63]
cheating?
IS there anyone more guilty than RA/AAA?
8/10 complex anyone?
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Dionisius
Gallente Critical Analysis R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dionisius on 31/01/2008 07:33:27
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar cheating?
IS there anyone more guilty than RA/AAA?
8/10 complex anyone?
Then in that case throw in D2 and the agent exploit and also the famous T20 then you have 3 distinct entities doing the exact same thing on diferent levels.
One might ask, bloody hell! How can anything be compared to T20!? He was an employee from CCP!, and the answer is obvious, he is as human as the rest and will take all the advantages he can ( proved by the deed ) to aid his alliance mates.
So no innocent partys here as they all tried to conceal their rotten apples, only different thing is BoB was viewed as unbeatable at the time and very much hated despite their victorys so no surprises there.
Disclaimer: blablablah i speak for myself and not my alliance or corp etc etc and so forth. _____________________________________
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Roupeh Natanoj
Templars of Space Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zorland I see why Goonswarm hates BOB, and I'm sure everyone else was avare that BOB griefed you in this game time and time again. But, you are not the only alliance in game that is currently against BOB. There are others that I'm sure everyone would like to hear what they think. There is no need to spam the thread again and again with the same stuff. Lets here what others have to say.
its going 40 v 40 against bob and being lagged out and all dying while bob fly away without a lost ship. there cheaters and as it always says cheaters never prosper, they cheated now there getting there dues. i started with my best mate in aridia we put up with there arigance there enough to make us join a corp that was anti-bob. bob has never been blue to us nor will any corp/allaince they re make go blue... ur proplem us everyone has the same stories to tell so ya gonna come across the same feelings over and over again.
bye bye bob.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:39:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar 8/10 complex anyone?
*cough* 10/10 complexes in Delve, Querious... *cough* _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:43:00 -
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I don't hate bob, the alliance i'm in just set the goal to remove bob from delve and every other region in eve and i just do what i'm asked and thats to remove bob.
No hate here, but i do enjoy them logging into our bubbles, too bad some of them self destruct.
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Taliac
Caldari Soliders Of Eve The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:44:00 -
[68]
You can't kill bob goons they will just come back :P
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 31/01/2008 07:51:52 Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 31/01/2008 07:50:07 Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 31/01/2008 07:49:01 /emote puts on flame-proof suit...
Hmm,i wasnt in Eve yet when the whole Bob-Goon incident started and ive never been involved in the great war except for 1 fight against BOB in FSW with Paxton, but it seems to me that some of the Bob members did have a point regarding dishonoring of RL deaths of people... But hey thats just me...
Whether to keep using it as a reason to wage war in a video game I don't know, but if GS leadership doesnt(didn't) publicly apologize for actions like that (and take action towards the offending members..) I wouldn't want to associate with them...
So far (honestly) and thats for somebody in the game for approx. 1 year, Goonswarm has given me more reason to hate them then Bob and even then "hate" is a strong word.
As spamming the forums etc, doesn't instill real hate in me, at most it would annoy me.
So far I'm enjoying Eve and emotions like "hate" only rarely surfuced (well when my first cormorant got popped by a canbaiter outside Kisogo newbie spawning pool a year ago did nearly set me off in a fit of rage upon which I nearly snapped my keyboard in half... welcome to Eve... )
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WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.01.31 07:56:00 -
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Quote:
exploiting (in a very inclusive sense of the word)
Quote: If someone exploited after something was declared an exploit he would be banned right? I don't know of a person in BoB who has been banned for this reason.
He means the lose lipped devs in you alliance spilling the means on unknown and unconfirmed exploits and future planned game changes to give you an advantage. To you guys it probably never felt like cheating because, well, its what you'd always done and is one of the reasons for your success. ______________________ I am the worst poaster |
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Roupeh Natanoj
Originally by: Zorland I see why Goonswarm hates BOB, and I'm sure everyone else was avare that BOB griefed you in this game time and time again. But, you are not the only alliance in game that is currently against BOB. There are others that I'm sure everyone would like to hear what they think. There is no need to spam the thread again and again with the same stuff. Lets here what others have to say.
its going 40 v 40 against bob and being lagged out and all dying while bob fly away without a lost ship. there cheaters and as it always says cheaters never prosper, they cheated now there getting there dues. i started with my best mate in aridia we put up with there arigance there enough to make us join a corp that was anti-bob. bob has never been blue to us nor will any corp/allaince they re make go blue... ur proplem us everyone has the same stories to tell so ya gonna come across the same feelings over and over again.
bye bye bob.
Let me just make sure I understand this right. You are insinuating that BOB has some sort of trick (exploit) they pull against their enemies to artificially generate lag and take advantage of it? That is the reason why you hate BOB and you will be against them as long as they exist?
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Taliac You can't kill bob goons they will just come back :P
nah, we can just eject them from their space, laugh, destroy or lock up all their 0.0 holdings, and then giggle even more as they impotently fly hac gangs through some region we own but haven't really occupied for months
oh wait lol who does that remind you of
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Cafu
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cafu on 31/01/2008 08:08:02 I dislike them because they are so physically unattractive
BoB
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:07:00 -
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They dug thier own grave I hope none of them are wondering why 3/4 of (0.0) EvE are beating down on them.
my reasons: T20
Eploiting and cheating
Arogant (I understand that when u get to the top it goes to your head, but that just got my goat)
They killed my previous alliances titan in the lamest possable fashion and then 30 secs after that CCP are in local congratulating them, this would be the main grudge.
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Nifel
Caldari PAX Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar 8/10 complex anyone?
*cough* 10/10 complexes in Delve, Querious... *cough*
You mean the ones that were petitioned?
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." |
dr shark
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:09:00 -
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All this wont chage a fact that we were better then you, we are better then you, and will be better then you. Space map wont change it a bit.
We are not Gods ofc, allthough some ppl was thinking that way, while we were watching rivers of tears on forums asking for CCP help. Granted it was.
Still, there will be many tears and bitternes by same ppl, long after this war goes by.
Its not our falt, though, that majority of ppl are naive and shallow. "Removing" Bob () wont change that at all. And same ppl will watch others taking credits for something they did their part of harsh work as well.
Im sorry, im just bitter
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Florio
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:10:00 -
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fyi, if you feel hate for an organisation in eve then you are probably a sociopath who will never get laid.
i reckon corporations are fighting bob due to jealousy and fear.
there's nothing wrong with either of those feelings and i don't mean them in a negative way.
exciting times, certainly for us, and i just hope the lag doesn't win too often.
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Value Added
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:11:00 -
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Edited by: Value Added on 31/01/2008 08:12:07
Originally by: dr shark All this wont chage a fact that we were better then you, we are better then you, and will be better then you. Space map wont change it a bit.
We are not Gods ofc, allthough some ppl was thinking that way, while we were watching rivers of tears on forums asking for CCP help. Granted it was.
Still, there will be many tears and bitternes by same ppl, long after this war goes by.
Its not our falt, though, that majority of ppl are naive and shallow. "Removing" Bob () wont change that at all. And same ppl will watch others taking credits for something they did their part of harsh work as well.
Im sorry, im just bitter
Hey thanksfor summing up why you're being removed from space.
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Tiberius Caesar
Sothebys
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar 8/10 complex anyone?
*cough* 10/10 complexes in Delve, Querious... *cough*
Oh what?!?
When you guys were busy milking all those angel 8/10's that respawned every 45 miniutes the delve 10/10's were broken and even REMOVED (ask dork shikari).
Way to try and deflect though.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:12:00 -
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Jeez, it's just a game. No one hates anyone. -clp
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Value Added
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Jeez, it's just a game. No one hates anyone.
What about Groon?
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dr shark
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Value Added
Hey thanksfor summing up why you're being removed from space.
You see, there is a difference between reson for removing from space and reason of so many ppl holds their hands against us.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Florio fyi, if you feel hate for an organisation in eve then you are probably a sociopath who will never get laid.
This!
And if any of you think that we "hate" you, then does it make you even more of a sociopath? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
UneFraiseDansUneChaise
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:35:00 -
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Why won't anyone in BoB answer for their inaction in aiding their allies?
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Bane Glorious on 31/01/2008 08:39:39
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar 8/10 complex anyone?
*cough* 10/10 complexes in Delve, Querious... *cough*
Oh what?!?
When you guys were busy milking all those angel 8/10's that respawned every 45 miniutes the delve 10/10's were broken and even REMOVED (ask dork shikari).
Way to try and deflect though.
Whenever people bring up the bugged 8/10s they always leave out three things.
1. RA petitioned the complexes and asked if their respawn rate was normal or a bug. The GM said it was working fine. Granted, that GM probably either was a clueless novice, didn't understand the question, or both. 2. ASCN was also using bugged 8/10 Angel complexes (whenever RA wasn't stealing them) 3. Dozens of RA members were PERMABANNED for running the complexes without warning once LV made a big stink out of it, including a major portion of their capital fleet. Some three months later, all of them had their bans removed except for one person, who actually was selling ISK for real life money. Which BoB or ASCN members were banned for running bugged complexes, I ask you?
So please, shove that 8/10 'sploit crap up your nose with a rubber hose. |
Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:46:14 Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:44:22
Originally by: Bane Glorious
Some three months later, all of them had their bans removed except for one person, who actually was selling ISK for real life money.
Heh, so how does this compare to T20 incident? Would this be a good reason for the whole EVE to gang up on RA, call them ISK farmers and remove them from the game for something that was done by one of the RA members? Ofcourse not. T20 incident is just an excuse for those that need to explain to the people with half brain why BOB is bad guys.
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Originally by: Zorland Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:50:52 Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:46:14 Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:44:22
Originally by: Bane Glorious
Some three months later, all of them had their bans removed except for one person, who actually was selling ISK for real life money.
Heh, so how does this compare to T20 incident? Would this be a good reason for the whole EVE to gang up on RA, call them ISK farmers and remove them from the game for something that was done by one of the RA members? Ofcourse not. T20 incident is just an excuse for those that need to explain to the people with half brain why BOB is bad guys. The whole WMD and IRAQ thing comes to mind as an example of the spin, only this one is in game.
and when Bob members boast in local/coad about contacting thier dev friends on msn
WTS Irony There is another expresion but I can't remember as English is not my native language.
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dr shark
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.31 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: dr shark on 31/01/2008 09:13:52 Edited by: dr shark on 31/01/2008 09:12:23
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Originally by: Zorland Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:50:52 Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:46:14 Edited by: Zorland on 31/01/2008 08:44:22
Originally by: Bane Glorious
Some three months later, all of them had their bans removed except for one person, who actually was selling ISK for real life money.
Heh, so how does this compare to T20 incident? Would this be a good reason for the whole EVE to gang up on RA, call them ISK farmers and remove them from the game for something that was done by one of the RA members? Ofcourse not. T20 incident is just an excuse for those that need to explain to the people with half brain why BOB is bad guys. The whole WMD and IRAQ thing comes to mind as an example of the spin, only this one is in game.
and when Bob members boast in local/coad about contacting thier dev friends on msn
WTS Irony There is another expresion but I can't remember as English is not my native language.
No point Zolander. This is a typical example of "1 dimensional" mind...right here.
So, you see, untill yellow page literature is profine source of info for such ppl, no logic or anything similar can enter their mind.
So, one have to raise a hat to Goons for making use of such shallownes. Congrats
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Mei Han
Gallente Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.31 09:11:00 -
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When i started EVE i was a bit interested in politics and Alliances at general. With my ignorant mind back then i saw BoB as the best alliance in the game since they folded ASCN - they biggest alliance in player numbers (didn't knew what it ment to be a carebear back then)- way too fast. So i desided to join against them, since it would be funnier and more challenging to try to kill "the best".
After a while tho i found out that what makes bob today is a playerbase "harvested" from their dead allies and BoB is not what they used to be. Those players that where just invited in like stray dogs start talking big (since the illusion of grandeur must be a prerequisit to join) about bob being the best and how they planed on loosing all that space and how they like having plenty of targets (although they rarely engage).
So all in all everybody can find something to fight for. Hate is the RP element everyone adds.For everything else, its just a reason to fight.
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.31 09:30:00 -
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I see that this thread has gone slightly OOC, so I'll post some IC and OOC stuff myself.
I don't hate or even dislike BoB from an OOC point of view. They'r just a bunch of guys enjoying the same game as I do. I don't hold a grudge to what people do in-game. As long as it's IC I really can't say that peoples actios anger me at all (IRL).
But from an IC point of view I dislike them because they arrrogant and a threat. Though then the same could be said for other entitys like GS, -A-, MC and others.
OOC warning: However I do dislike som People OOC. The people who brings IRL mockery into a game that everyone is supposed to enjoy. Insults are fine as long as it stays in-game. But when it results in photos posted, insults with RL references or ridicule of a RL person it's as bad as if it happend IRL. Except that in difference to RL crap, stuff posted on the internet will never go away, always stored in one form or another. Is there a difference if I ridicule someone in a newspaper of over the radio or if I do it on the web? I'd say No. That's why I dislike some players OOC (may they be in Bob, GS, RK, TRI or any other entity). The real issue is when the corps and alliances these people belong to back them up OOC. Should I start to dislike an In-Game entity IC because it supports someone I dislike OOC? I try not to, but in some cases it can be difficult. Bob vs ASCN was one difficult example (where RL-like insults were posted both internally as on public forums). But whatever transgressions were made back then I can't say I "hate" bob for it. I do still disapprove of the behaviour from the persons behind those avatars though, no matter what corp they belong to.
There are probably a multitude of different views on this subject depending on where you come from IRL or what corp you'r associated with in-game. But eve has a nasty habit of "getting personal" to alot of people, maybe that's one of the reasons we play?
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