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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.01 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:59 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:52 No first prizes for biggest consecutive post count y'know.
wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
as if they have ever done anything else.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.01 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Seeing EyeDog
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:59 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:52 No first prizes for biggest consecutive post count y'know.
wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
as if they have ever done anything else.
They brought you eve now quit complaining, if it was any other player you'd have ignored it and moved on.
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CCP Prism X
C C P
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:00:28 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:00:11 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:00:03
Originally by: Seeing EyeDog wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
If I offend I'm sorry, please, please forgive. I'll rephrase for you: Would you please stop doing redundant inserts into the database which our entire customer base plays on. If everyone acted like you it would degrade performance for the rest of our customer base. I know I'm being a **** towards your person, and if you were the only one doing this we'd be quite cool, but I'm thinking about the big picture.
~ Prism X EvE Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006. |
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Julius Romanus CCP Prism gets a giant amarr thank you cookie.
And jonny, EFT doesnt actually use cap. So all your weapons, regardless of what you're babbling about are already capless.
Since I dont use EFt, I could not say. What would you suggest as being a capless pvp combat BS that is competitive in todays pvp? Sig locked, lack of Eve content |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: Julius Romanus CCP Prism gets a giant amarr thank you cookie.
And jonny, EFT doesnt actually use cap. So all your weapons, regardless of what you're babbling about are already capless.
Since I dont use EFt, I could not say. What would you suggest as being a capless pvp combat BS that is competitive in todays pvp?
Autocapoc.
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Mark Lucius
The Vinlanders SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
His reply was similar to the replies you post to others. Your last 15 post are almost all non-constructive oneliners. Maybe you should change your posts to reflect how you would like to see others post on these forums. ---
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Westly Synpa as if they have ever done anything else.
Yeah, you should probably just quit.
I'd ask for your stuff, but sadly I can't fly rifters. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2 |
Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:23:00 -
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/me <3 CCP Prism X
We need more devs who speak their minds -
(combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 01/02/2008 20:28:54 Latest On Sisi
Apocalypse has had its 5% Cap / level bonus removed for a base cap increase of 1500, this is replaced with a 7.5% optimal bonus, it has also gained 1000 grid
More : Sorry was in a rush posting this as i had to edit another post i made a rather large error on..
Zealot AND Omen have gained 1 more turret (no more highs on the omen though)
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Latest On Sisi
Apocalypse has had its 5% Cap / level bonus removed for a base cap increase of 1500, this is replaced with a 7.5% optimal bonus, it has also gained 1000 grid
Apoc prices will rise !! =P nano apoc!!
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Liam Liam
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Posted - 2008.02.01 21:54:00 -
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Orgional poster pretty much has it all worked out.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.02.01 22:36:00 -
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Quote: wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
Nope, just you.
And I hardly need to point out that one forum whiner does not equate to the 'customer base'.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.01 23:16:00 -
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the apocs cap right now is OVER 9000!1!!!
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.02.01 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Ofcourse, after saying that I must admit that I'm a lore-professional-seamstress and Amarr > Alles. This makes me biased so I haven't really touched these topics too much.
You Dutch by any chance?
Anyway, I must say I'm relieved to hear that Amarr is finally getting a boost. Might give me a reason to buy any of those ships again . Changed proposed in this topic also sound good, specificly PvE needs to be watched at when changing resistances, might make some mission / deadspaces too hard? Though I agree on the not everything part. Maybe they need to introduce these changes gradually instead of all at once? _______
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Siona S'kar
Amarr Galactic Confederation ICARUS Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.02 00:00:00 -
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Arg, the goon and Jonny can goto hell for trolling.
On topic, I think the suggestions are all good but executing all of them would overpower Amarr probably. Even tho I am Amarr, I don't really want to be nerfed into oblivion 6 months after this extreme buff.
I think a 15-20% buff to all Amarr ships capacitor capacity is a very good adjustment, besides that just give us a Khanid battleship and I'll be happy. Leave the cap usage bonus alone, its nice to have differences between the races.
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Seeing EyeDog
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Posted - 2008.02.02 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:07:42 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:06:42 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:00:28 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:00:11 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 19:00:03
Originally by: Seeing EyeDog wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
If I offend I'm sorry, please, please forgive. I'll rephrase for you: Would you please stop doing redundant inserts into the database which our entire customer base plays on. If everyone acted like you it would degrade performance for the rest of our customer base. I know I'm being a **** towards your person, and if you were the only one doing this we'd be quite cool, but I'm thinking about the big picture.
Edit: Alright in all fairness you're not going to hurt performance much. If everyone did this it would but I could just as well turn off the forums access to the DB rather than be passive aggressive.
However, I like to treat the players as equals. I talk to you like I would talk to my mates. I saw alot of posts and I thought "Hey, here's a funny comment". I'll leave my earlier defensive comment for you to rip into at your own leisure and ensure that I treat you as a customer, rather than a mate, in the future... through customer service.
And I admitted I smack in another topic earlier, as well as many before that, so this is no big victory.
hows about moving the forums off the same server cluster as the game for a start....errrr ever occur to you? or you too busy flinging insults at paying subscribers to actually do any real work? _____________________
Originally by: Locus Bey Intelligence isn't a prequisite for being a Goon, in fact its a deficit.
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.02.02 20:07:00 -
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Just me... or the Zealot will need more CPU/PG if you ever wanna fit the 5th turret and a Booster?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.02 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:59 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:52 No first prizes for biggest consecutive post count y'know.
wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
You asked for it.
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.02 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:59 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:52 No first prizes for biggest consecutive post count y'know.
wow, someones taking the liberty to be a complete **** to their customer base
Just cause he works at CCP he's not allowed to talk like a normal person? People like you think of Devs as higher beings, tend to totally distort reality. He didn't say anything that would justify calling him a complete ****. But the way you post, you can be called a complete ****. Get a freaken life
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Aeo IV
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Posted - 2008.02.02 21:41:00 -
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Seeing as many people here prefer Khanid style amarrian ships, perhaps CCP should just forget this small fixes and reprocess the whole of the Amarrian fleet to follow this design style.
Just a suggestion.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.02 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rikeka Just me... or the Zealot will need more CPU/PG if you ever wanna fit the 5th turret and a Booster?
Also more cap to fire that fifth gun, especially if it can't fit a booster. Zealot actually benefits from large cap batteries a lot, but have you SEEN the fitting requirements on that thing!? __________________________________
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BeastKiller
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Posted - 2008.02.04 11:36:00 -
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I am an amarr player i optimaze all my skills to get the max benefit out of the amarrian ships, but i need to say that still way out on what other people flying minmatar ships or gallente can do.
A minmatar or gallente player with half my skill point can do more damage then i do to him.
I always loved amarr ships but after more then 3 years of ups and downs i am training other race becouse flying Abaddon just need a stupid ammont of caps to fire the guns and try to rep at the same time, use cap booster you say, well i do I MUST, if not i wont survive but see what a rokh can do make me wonder why the amarr ships always been the underdog.
I saw the new Dev blog and finially see some bonus on the apoc but there are a lot of amarr ships out there that are broken and not even worth flying.
All good and well give another turret hardpoint to the Zelot but to fit the extra weapon need more CPU and PWG.
So I do hope this is the beginning of a wide range of "fix" for the amarr ships because i love flying this ships but we do need some edge( like any other race got) while we are in combat.
Thank you Devs that after long time finally something is moving in the right direction, and please dont stop here.
regards
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards
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Posted - 2008.02.04 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 04/02/2008 11:51:22 Another thing to note is that most amarr players have maxed skills, so that they can compete with someone with a bunch of lvl3 or lvl4 skills.
So people may perceive that its overpowered when its really not. Its the players with maxed skills that can compete with other maxout players in amarr. If oyu dont have maxout skills, then you cannot complain if a maxout player kills you of any race. Sig locked, lack of Eve content |
BeastKiller
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Posted - 2008.02.04 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: BeastKiller on 04/02/2008 12:06:57
Originally by: Jonny JoJo Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 04/02/2008 11:51:22 Another thing to note is that most amarr players have maxed skills, so that they can compete with someone with a bunch of lvl3 or lvl4 skills.
So people may perceive that its overpowered when its really not. Its the players with maxed skills that can compete with other maxout players in amarr. If oyu dont have maxout skills, then you cannot complain if a maxout player kills you of any race.
Well you see if I spend months to get my skill to lvl5 and if i cant get an edge on some other player of a different race that all he got is lvl3 and 4 then something is not right is it??
So the amarr player not only get penilase in using the race ships but they get penilise on trainig skill as well, because the ammount of time take for a lvl5 to complite i could train another 5 skills on lvl 3 for esample.
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Tadius Rhain
Amarr Kalear Fleet Systems
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Posted - 2008.02.04 13:50:00 -
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EM should be a viable damage type. Theory says low EM resists in shields makes this damage type useful, especially with shields starting at 0% combined with stacking penalties.
I think the problem is in the ratio of shield tankers to armour tankers. All Amarr ships armour tank and as I understand it most Gallente and Minmatar ships also armour tank though I admit I don't know other (lesser) races so well.
I suspect the (proposed?) changes will make EANMs even more favourable. They are enormously powerful modules. And the end result will be proportionally harder for Amarr. I hope I'm proved wrong on this...
I'm not too concerned about T2 Minmatar resists since they are hit pretty hard by stacking penalties when looking at armour tanking. This makes the 90% EM resist irrelevant when they struggle to counter the other damage types. Min-maxing is the opposite to omni tanking and there's a penalty for it!
Comparatively, T2 Amarr armour tanks well because the bonuses boost the weakest types, reducing the affect of stacking penalties and improving the balance for omni tank setups. That and the massive number of low slots, allowing flexibility to chose between resist tank (specific hardeners/membranes) or HP regen tank (omnis, multiple reppers & CPRs). But the issue at hand is the amarr damage type...
In my ideal Eve world Amarr would armour tank, Gallente would shield tank (weakly against EM), Caldari would tank by EW and Minmatar would tank with speed. I think that would mean changing a lot of game rules though. Introduce new forms of EW such as chance based 'break locks on me' which Caldari were skilled with (or something?) and all the MWD and webber rules would have to change for speed tanking to become viable.
One last consideration: Caldari is Amarr's biggest Ally and yet with their shield tanking, they are the most opportune targets for Amarr . I realise this is not too important today but thinking ahead to if/when faction warfare comes in.. it's clear something needs to change. ____________________________________________
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards
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Posted - 2008.02.04 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: BeastKiller Edited by: BeastKiller on 04/02/2008 12:06:57
Originally by: Jonny JoJo Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 04/02/2008 11:51:22 Another thing to note is that most amarr players have maxed skills, so that they can compete with someone with a bunch of lvl3 or lvl4 skills.
So people may perceive that its overpowered when its really not. Its the players with maxed skills that can compete with other maxout players in amarr. If oyu dont have maxout skills, then you cannot complain if a maxout player kills you of any race.
Well you see if I spend months to get my skill to lvl5 and if i cant get an edge on some other player of a different race that all he got is lvl3 and 4 then something is not right is it??
So the amarr player not only get penilase in using the race ships but they get penilise on trainig skill as well, because the ammount of time take for a lvl5 to complite i could train another 5 skills on lvl 3 for esample.
Exactly. Currently it is
Non-Amarr With lvl3/4 sskils vs Amarr Maxout lvl5 - Both competitive with edge on non-amarr. Non-Amarr Maxout lvl5 vs Non-amarr lvl3/4 - Non-Amarr Maxout lvl5 wipes the floor with lvl3/4ers
So Amarr curently are only competitive with peopel who dont max out skills like pulse laser spec, people who dont have hac 5 etc etc. When Amarr are balanced, people will falsely think amarr are overpowered when they are not - it is because amarr piltos have maxout skills thats why.
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Taedrin
Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.02.04 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
Oh and a pre-emptive answer: Yes, I've ignored the billion pages thread. Yes this is obviously me showing favourites to one topic over the other. Last time I did that it hurt someones feelings. If you're feeling hurt right now just remember I'm a human being and am allowed control over my actions. I choose who I associate with and who I give the cold shoulder and I do it on my terms. Sorry, but I reckon you do the same.
What happened the last time CCP Prism X played favorites? If I were the OP, I would be very scared
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M00dy
Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.04 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: M00dy on 04/02/2008 18:42:33 CCP Prisim X, I ♥ so much. I agree with everything you've ever said. You're a great Dev. Please don't ever change.
Amarr are fine stop winning.
Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
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Seeing EyeDog
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Posted - 2008.02.04 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Seeing EyeDog
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:59 Edited by: CCP Prism X on 01/02/2008 18:25:52 No first prizes for biggest consecutive post count y'know.
Trolling removed. Please be constructive and stay on topic
Just cause he works at CCP he's not allowed to talk like a normal person? People like you think of Devs as higher beings, tend to totally distort reality. He didn't say anything that would justify calling him a complete ****. But the way you post, you can be called a complete ****. Get a freaken life
you do realize that working for a company and carrying responsibility within that company that ANY interaction you have with the customer base of that company is a reflection of the company itself right? _____________________
Originally by: Locus Bey Intelligence isn't a prequisite for being a Goon, in fact its a deficit.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.02.04 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog you do realize that working for a company and carrying responsibility within that company that ANY interaction you have with the customer base of that company is a reflection of the company itself right?
If part of the customer base acts like an ass, I think it's perfectly reasonable that they tell them to buzz off. If the customer doesn't like it, they can take their business elsewhere. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2 |
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