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Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:04:00 - [121] This is a historic occasion. So historic that I shall create a new word. Apocaloomph. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Beef Hardslab Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:06:00 - [122] Originally by: Rodj Blake This is a historic occasion. So historic that I shall create a new word. Apocaloomph. Nice, might siggeh that Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:07:00 - [123] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: CCP Greyscale There is a devblog coming which should shed more light onto various things. I'm not going to steal its thunder by giving any details here, but I have noticed that everyone seems to have missed a few changes thus far. Keep it civil and try to exercise a little patience Are they as ridiculous as making the Apoc the best sniper in the game and the Eagle the best anti-support in the game? I'm beginning to think that you just like complaining. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:10:00 - [124] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: CCP Greyscale There is a devblog coming which should shed more light onto various things. I'm not going to steal its thunder by giving any details here, but I have noticed that everyone seems to have missed a few changes thus far. Keep it civil and try to exercise a little patience Are they as ridiculous as making the Apoc the best sniper in the game and the Eagle the best anti-support in the game? I'm beginning to think that you just like complaining. No, i just like balancing the game properly. There are a lot of ways you can go about this, and i'd be fine with them. 5 t Zealot is fine, 5t omen is fine. 5t eagle is not fine without changing the Zealot and Muninn again. Optimal bonus Apoc is not fine.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:11:00 - [125] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Jonny JoJo Originally by: Goumindong Apoc fires for 5 minutes Hyperion fires for 4 minutes 17 seconds since it has space for a cap mod in the lows while still hitting that optimal range. Da-Apoc is better. Damage please. Come on. Please tell us damage output of apoc vs Hyperion at standard pvp sniper range of 160km (or whatever range you can justify, since rokh can do 200km). Hyperion does 401 normalized. Apoc does about the same. +/- 2-3% depending on the tank. And hype is a much more viable close range ganker. Its balanced. Amarr pvp Vids: Inq - I Inq - II
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:11:00 - [126] Originally by: Summersnow It looks like amarr are getting the extra high slot they have converted to gun slots. Personally I'd rather see them converted to launcher slots to give them the alternate damage types they've whined about for so long. As far as the increased grid... umm, the reason amarr have so damn many lowslots is to fit grid increasing items. give them the grid if you want, but remove a low slot to compensate for it. No, amarr gunships need turret hardpoints. That launcher is hardly going to help damage type and ccp has already fixed some of the EM damage problem. Amarr pvp Vids: Inq - I Inq - II
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:12:00 - [127] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Goumindong Are they as ridiculous as making the Apoc the best sniper in the game and the Eagle the best anti-support in the game? I'm beginning to think that you just like complaining. No, i just like balancing the game properly. There are a lot of ways you can go about this, and i'd be fine with them. 5 t Zealot is fine, 5t omen is fine. 5t eagle is not fine without changing the Zealot and Muninn again. Optimal bonus Apoc is not fine. Quit whining. I know Optimal Bonus Apoc is not fine because it still has major cap problems. I mean, where was your whining when they gave Rokh EVEN more optimal bonus than apoc? Sig locked, lack of Eve content
Steve Clone Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:13:00 - [128] Originally by: Rodj Blake This is a historic occasion. So historic that I shall create a new word. Apocaloomph. HAIL THE APOCALOOMPH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:14:00 - [129] Originally by: Steve Clone Originally by: Rodj Blake This is a historic occasion. So historic that I shall create a new word. Apocaloomph. HAIL THE APOCALOOMPH!!!!!!!!!!!! HAIL ZULUPARK, EMPEROR OF AMARR AND BRINGER OF THE APOCALOOMPA! Sig locked, lack of Eve content
Ishan Mons Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:15:00 - [130] Originally by: Jonny JoJo Originally by: Ishan Mons there are pleanty of ships with "cap problems" not all of them amarr... if cap was never a problem they should just remove it from the game Amarr ships have the worst cap problems, but another racec that had a cap problem, such as minmatar, got a 100% cap reduction fix by CCP, during the last Minmatar fix. No other race needs 5+ cap mods to sustain enough guns to do reasonable and competitive damage. no other race doesnt consume ammunition. Projectile weapons dont use cap because they are projectile weapons, they propellant to fire... you dont need to plug a machine gun into a wall... a laser on the other hand requires alot of energy to fire. everyone uses drones so dont even bring that up. hybrid turrents use quite a bit of Cap also... but they also chew through ammunition ------------------------ Infrared = heat = thermal Infrared crystals = less therm more EM I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS! Reach in front of a 10watt CO2 laser some time you'll get it...
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:16:00 - [131] Originally by: Jonny JoJo Originally by: Steve Clone Originally by: Rodj Blake This is a historic occasion. So historic that I shall create a new word. Apocaloomph. HAIL THE APOCALOOMPH!!!!!!!!!!!! HAIL ZULUPARK, EMPEROR OF AMARR AND BRINGER OF THE APOCALOOMPA! /signed Im gonna like the new emperor Amarr pvp Vids: Inq - I Inq - II
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:16:00 - [132] Originally by: Ishan Mons no other race doesnt consume ammunition. Projectile weapons dont use cap because they are projectile weapons, they propellant to fire... No other race carriers 50mil ISK of ammo in cargohold either...
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:19:00 - [133] The Abaddon is nearly as good as the Hyp up close, they do different things, and the Mega is a better sniper than the hyp. But does less DPS. That doesnt mean the Apoc isnt too powerful.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:20:00 - [134] Originally by: CCP Greyscale There is a devblog coming which should shed more light onto various things. I'm not going to steal its thunder by giving any details here, but I have noticed that everyone seems to have missed a few changes thus far. Keep it civil and try to exercise a little patience No, I caught the TD changes.
Steve Clone Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:20:00 - [135] I tried my zealot fit on EFT and I still cant believe my eyes!!! The numbers are unbelievable.... its now truely a dedicated-GANK ship... let someone tackle and u can stay at scorch range bringing Swift juctice to infidels!!!
General StarScream Borg Collective hive mind	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:22:00 - [136] Tottal bs changes, fix the gallente ships as well then. add 1000 pg to the domi and mega, with 20% extra cap added- Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:23:00 - [137] Originally by: General StarScream Tottal bs changes, fix the gallente ships as well then. add 1000 pg to the domi and mega, with 20% extra cap added- Waiting line is 1,5-2 years long afaik.
Jakus Cemendur Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:25:00 - [138] Originally by: General StarScream Tottal bs changes, fix the gallente ships as well then. add 1000 pg to the domi and mega, with 20% extra cap added- Excuse me, but wtf are you on, and could I have some please?
Beef Hardslab Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:25:00 - [139] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: General StarScream Tottal bs changes, fix the gallente ships as well then. add 1000 pg to the domi and mega, with 20% extra cap added- Waiting line is 1,5-2 years long afaik. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:33:00 - [140] Originally by: Marc Vestabule Originally by: Goumindong No, i just like balancing the game properly. There are a lot of ways you can go about this, and i'd be fine with them. 5 t Zealot is fine, 5t omen is fine. 5t eagle is not fine without changing the Zealot and Muninn again. Optimal bonus Apoc is not fine. I do not understand what you have against the Eagle - do you even fly one? Did a Eagle pilot pod you as a young player and you've never recovered? Take a look at the market - its been one of the lowest priced HAC since forever for a reason. I have nothing against the eagle, its just too good with 5 turrets.
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:33:00 - [141] Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 01/02/2008 23:33:50 Originally by: General StarScream well to be fair Gallente have huge cap issues as well. Amarr allready has uber wepons, now they getting super uber, and it sucks, cuse now everyone gona whine about boosting gallente. Gallente still own amarr - Look at the Apoc vs Hyperios that your gallente crew are stating. Turns out hyperion & megathron outclasses new Apoc still. Sig locked, lack of Eve content
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:34:00 - [142] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: CCP Greyscale There is a devblog coming which should shed more light onto various things. I'm not going to steal its thunder by giving any details here, but I have noticed that everyone seems to have missed a few changes thus far. Keep it civil and try to exercise a little patience No, I caught the TD changes. Details? ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Beef Hardslab Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:34:00 - [143] Originally by: Marc Vestabule Originally by: Goumindong No, i just like balancing the game properly. There are a lot of ways you can go about this, and i'd be fine with them. 5 t Zealot is fine, 5t omen is fine. 5t eagle is not fine without changing the Zealot and Muninn again. Optimal bonus Apoc is not fine. I do not understand what you have against the Eagle - do you even fly one? Did a Eagle pilot pod you as a young player and you've never recovered? Take a look at the market - its been one of the lowest priced HAC since forever for a reason. That reason is that there are many, many more cost-effective and efficient ways to pop pods :) Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
General StarScream Borg Collective hive mind	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:35:00 - [144] JoJO get real man you got your boost now. come cleen it was all a lie so amarr would be uber over all the other races ;)? but i agree when you have skilled only one race, it feels like its the worst race, no matter what happens. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Erayo Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:36:00 - [145] Originally by: General StarScream well to be fair Gallente have huge cap issues as well. Amarr allready has uber wepons, now they getting super uber, and it sucks, cuse now everyone gona whine about boosting gallente. Somebody's gotta be the weakest Rise of a new era - Gallente whiner era.
General StarScream Borg Collective hive mind	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:38:00 - [146] ye i guees the changes are quite good, seems fair, zulu park did a good job. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Splash Whale Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:38:00 - [147] Originally by: Jonny JoJo E.G: H: 8 x 425 II w/spike L M: 100mn MWD II, 2 x sensor booster Ii, 2 x Cap recharger II l: 3 x MFS II, 2 x Trackign Enhancers II, 1 x PDU II. But wait your own figures show that apoc is inferios to hype. - why dont you compare apoc vs Megathron eh? Please get a clue on how fleet ships are fitted and come back later. You stuffed it with cap mods, what else do you think. I suggest you use setups that are actualy widely used. And if you're talking about gallente sniper boats then please use the Megathron as something to compare too. There is a reason more people use the Megathron in fleets opposed to the Hyperion. -------- Overall the changes are pretty good imho part from the Deimos. As stated before it is a gank boat. This coming change will change it into a glorified mini brutix. If you want to change the bonus then might I suggest changing it to an agility bonus of some sort. That corresponds with it's current role of getting in fast kill something fast and gtfo very fast again. To the whiners who are now begging for Amarr online: I don't think CCP will go any further buffing you. You werent even that bad to begin with. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Takeshi Yamato	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:40:00 - [148] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: CCP Greyscale There is a devblog coming which should shed more light onto various things. I'm not going to steal its thunder by giving any details here, but I have noticed that everyone seems to have missed a few changes thus far. Keep it civil and try to exercise a little patience No, I caught the TD changes. Details? Tracking disruptors reduce falloff by the same amount as optimal.
Praxis1452 The Bastards	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:41:00 - [149] Originally by: Erayo Originally by: General StarScream well to be fair Gallente have huge cap issues as well. Amarr allready has uber wepons, now they getting super uber, and it sucks, cuse now everyone gona whine about boosting gallente. Somebody's gotta be the weakest Rise of a new era - Gallente whiner era. Don't like deimos nerf. Gotta say it. Repping is only effective if you do lots of it - need LAR's + lots of lows + rep bonus. Hyp did it fine. Myrm does it well because it doesn't need lows to increase a non-existent damage bonus. Deimos on the other hand... doesn't have a huge buffer, has lower cap to rep, and can't gank nearly as much. Vexor's get into the 600-700dps range. Brutixes in the 800-900 if gank fitted. Just saying. Gallente is made to gaaaaaank., or drone *** really. Either way. ôHe who must expend his life to prolong life cannot enjoy it, and he who is still seeking for his life does not have it and can as little enjoy it**.ö
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:41:00 - [150] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: CCP Greyscale There is a devblog coming which should shed more light onto various things. I'm not going to steal its thunder by giving any details here, but I have noticed that everyone seems to have missed a few changes thus far. Keep it civil and try to exercise a little patience No, I caught the TD changes. Details? Falloff is now affected and boosted by optimal range scripts. So an optimal range script on a TD reduces optimal and falloff.

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