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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:27:28
Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting?
So basically he is full of **** entirely.
So you say that TI were not in delve shooting at bob not so long ago?.
I guess its you who are full of **** hey pal but then im used to morons from goons not checking simple facts.
SIG BELOW:
Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1.
ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count |

Amiable Quinn
Minmatar Bat Country
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 06/02/2008 22:28:39
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?.
Well, because... Hmmm..... How can I put this delicately. You are kind of a loon.
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Ju Ming
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:29:00 -
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Hey there read the start of the thread and although I respect Tri Fleets and Gangs for what they can bring its not something that I am scared of.
I think the that the main mistake you have made is judging an Alliance by the KB stats, that gives you some insight but its really not enough. That would be like reading Baseball game stats and thinking you fully understood what happened.
Agreed Tri Nano gangs are something that should not be taken lightly but they can be killed. Tri Fleets can be killed they tend to have the advantage of T2 support ships though that can give them an edge over fleets with younger players still in T1.
But like I said they are not something you need to fear because although they will enagage you knowing they could lose a ship they dont go all out thats sort of reserved for some other Alliances.
Alliances that pull out all the stops and will come at you with a vengance are the ones you need to be concerned about. There are a few out there like this RA & AAA being two that come closest to mind. But as for the future. well EVE is still a some what large Universe and I don't see a single Alliance dominating.
Sig locked, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please email [email protected] ~Saint
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:31:35
Originally by: Amiable Quinn Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 06/02/2008 22:28:39
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Originally by: Amiable Quinn
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Btw who do you consider "sombody" in this virtual game of internet spaceships id be very interested to know cos you obviously would consider their opinions very important.
Yeah that was mean so I edited it (before your post)... Let me rephrase..."your main is a nobody," as in no one who could reasoanbly considered to have diplomatic/other repercussions for mouthing off on CAOD.
What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?. The cyno alt you and others think of as my main is a member of a alliance that not long ago was in delve shooting at bob and so i decided to post with a alt to avoid any political repercussions.
Now you may wish to think of me my corp or my alliance as nobodys and that is your choice but your opinion in no way changes the fact why i chose to post with an alt nor can you predict what repercussions would have happened had i chose to post with my cyno alt or even one of my actual mains.
Well, because... Hmmm..... How can I put this delicately. You are kind of a loon.
Better than a arrogant fool who decides on ppl importance without knowing a single thing about them.
Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading.
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Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1.
ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count |

Amiable Quinn
Minmatar Bat Country
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading.
Listen, obviously I have hurt your feelings, and I am sorry. You are very important, you are a unique and special snowflake.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:41:49 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:40:36
Originally by: Amiable Quinn
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading.
Listen, obviously I have hurt your feelings, and I am sorry. You are very important, you are a unique and special snowflake.
Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish and sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve.
Come on it does not have to be a long list just the top 5 important ppl in our little internet space ship game. SIG BELOW:
Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1.
ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count |

Amiable Quinn
Minmatar Bat Country
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve.
Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love...
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:46:30
Originally by: Amiable Quinn
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve.
Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love...
Still waiting for the uber important player list and reading more self depreciating posts that are done in a vain hope for an lees embarressing out of the hole he dug himself.
Ok how about the top 3 important ppl in the eve universe?.
SIG BELOW:
Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1.
ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count |

Vahl
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve.
Still waiting for you to stop posting with an alt since we all know who you are. _________________________________________________________
==REDSWARM FEDERATION==
...because we hate your f**king guts. |

HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.07 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 00:23:04
Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:27:28
Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting?
So basically he is full of **** entirely.
So you say that TI were not in delve shooting at bob not so long ago?.
I guess its you who are full of **** hey pal but then im used to morons from goons not checking simple facts.
See above for my thoughts on what you want or think lol you cannot even get your simple facts right.
And if i posted with my cyno alt or my main it would'nt get under your skin and give you summat to b*tch about.
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Dr Paithos
Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2008.02.07 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:58:50
Originally by: Amiable Quinn
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve.
Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love...
Still waiting for the uber important player list and reading more sarcastic self depreciating posts that are done in a vain hope for an lees embarressing way out of the hole he dug himself.
Ok how about the top 3 important ppl in the eve universe?.
we could make lists of the top 3 most important alt posters it could only improve the thread
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 01:44:00 -
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Sup alt poster Murina
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ceyriot
Minmatar Crimson Rebellion
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Posted - 2008.02.07 04:48:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: ceyriot Tri CAN and only MIGHT be a superpower if a couple things i see coming happen...
1. The goon coalition kills BoB  2. Nobody ****es off goon/allies for a couple weeks  3. The goon coalition dissolves into a civil war  4. Tri comes in with guns blazing.
you really think tri will win a pos war?
They have a lot of time to learn...if they don't, dosn't really matter, you can replace Tri in nuber 4 with any other alliance, i just favor tri. Sig removed. Political references are not permitted in signatures. If you would like further details please email [email protected]. ~Saint |

Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:39:45
Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 14:29:41
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time.
If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself.
But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment.
Tell that to ASCN or D2.
Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater.
Has been a shame that the BoB leaders can't lead their pilots in a more professional and dedicated manner.
It's not that BoB can't fight back, it seems to me that the leaders is unable to formulate plans as the situation changes and this will be the reason that their fleets are spread all over EVE attacking empty space or targeting systems that have no effect on Goons.
Was a good read and it just a shame that it's going to be dis-credited by alts and Goon haters.
If I was on the receiving end of this I would be demanding answers and results instead of excepting the lies.
I honestly hope that the BoB leaders can accept they're failing and start performing for their followers.
We've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence. Oh, yes. Everything is going according to plan. Those fools, they think they can win... by winning. |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 07/02/2008 22:11:11 Hey niCE fight in qy6 earlier btws!
That saved some capital pilots from having to ctrl+q their way out of qy6!
That trick of login/logoff we learned from the coalition almost a year ago in F-T. Thanks for that!
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:13:00 -
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I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down.
BoB have been rather quiet on eve-o lately with large portions of their cap fleet trapped in a system.
I think the future of eve will be continuous warfare and will be defined by the ability to be able to field some sort of pvp gang or fleet during all timezones. Let the fun begin.
Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down.
BoB have been rather quiet on eve-o lately with large portions of their cap fleet trapped in a system.
I think the future of eve will be continuous warfare and will be defined by the ability to be able to field some sort of pvp gang or fleet during all timezones. Let the fun begin.
damn did you just get owned by my post above yours. |

HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down.
i vote for HEY LISTEN as well.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 07/02/2008 22:11:11 Hey niCE fight in qy6 earlier btws!
That saved some capital pilots from having to ctrl+q their way out of qy6!
That trick of login/logoff we learned from the coalition almost a year ago in F-T. Thanks for that!
TWD is our strategist.
Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Murina
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 -
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I vote for HEY LISTEN too.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down.
BoB have been rather quiet on eve-o lately with large portions of their cap fleet trapped in a system.
I think the future of eve will be continuous warfare and will be defined by the ability to be able to field some sort of pvp gang or fleet during all timezones. Let the fun begin.
damn did you just get owned by my post above yours.
It's hilarious, but I'm just a stupid goon.
Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:16:00 -
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I don't blame you |

Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: TWD I don't blame you
Did you save Siddy from breaking his furry e-honor?
Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Tonkin
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:56:00 -
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tri have no intrest in this great war.
all we want is pvp.
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Brmble
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 08:05:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: TWD I don't blame you
Did you save Siddy from breaking his furry e-honor?
:siren: stop posting :siren:
this goes for everyone in IGNE that is not named Aaron Static.
~ no not believin in urself ~ |

Jebidus Skari
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.08 11:13:00 -
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Its not about becoming a super power as such, I dont think Tri want to own the whole map we are more than happy where we are. However its about the fights, the odds of being outnumbered and still coming out on top. We can field small skirmish gangs and large fleets when required. We very rarely duck from a fight even if outnumbered 3:1. Its all about pvp and playing and enjoying the game for that reason.
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Malaphar
Amarr W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 12:18:00 -
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IMHO , I don't think there is any formula which would assure an Alliance of any kind indefinite domination over the world of EVE.At least , as I said , not on long term.
Sheer numbers ensured ASCN domination of the South for SOME PERIOD of time.The same sheer numbers will ensure Goonswarm domination over the same South (and maybe even more) also for a CERTAIN PERIOD of time.
PvP experience , great leadership skills , unique capital fleet and also incredible Production/Manufacturing skills and experience ensured BoB the longest (timewise) domination of both North and South regions.But , as long as it lasted , it did come to and end nowadays as they are limited atm to , say , 90% of Delve (only 1 region).
Tricky tactics , backstabbing and great capital fleet ensures Red Alliance domination for their region of space but it also proved to be mere temporary.
Both BoB and RA had/have impressive Logistics support and diplomacy skills (many times more than "questionable" ) but this doesn't ensure LONG TERM domination of EVE either!
If I may say an oppinion , the ONLY things that can ensure an Alliance LONGer THAN AVERAGE TERM domination are :
1.The most important : ACTIVITY and DEDICATION of Alliance people , of its ranks. It doesn't matter if an Alliance has 5000 members or 500 members , what REALLY MATTERS is how many are online at any given moment for the Alliance.
Example : Goonswarm has maybe more than 6000 members ,but you can NEVER find more than 300-400 online in fleet opperations. BoB has around 2500 members , but you can always see 250-300 online for Alliance operations. But even that , 10% of all ranks , are not even close to enough.
The real superpower will be that Alliance with say,1000 members , and with 500-600 of them online for the operations and ANY GIVEN TIME!
The PvP experience is not crucial : people will get that experience in time , they are meant to learn - that's EVE all about The Logistics support is not crucial at the beginning : with more than 50%-60% members online at any given time , that will surely be covered. Cap Fleet ? That also comes in time , gradually!
IF such an Alliance will succesfully manage to keep at least 50%-60% of its members ACTIVE,ONLINE and DEDICATED , it will achieve more than BoB+RAGOON altogether!
Just my humble oppinion!
Quote: Meet the best , die like the rest!
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