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DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 04:52:00 - [1] Before I go on, I just wanna say that i'm not in any 0.0 alliance. Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. They have really good fc's, and very very good pvpers. If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. Tri destroyed all the previous owners of deklein, doing it with ease. If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Tri is fighting everyone in the north making them look like amateurs tbh. Just look at the killboards, its usually 100 battleships to 20 lost or something. If Tri joined the Bob war, a fleet of 100+ of the best pvpers and fc's could turn the tide for either side. Would get ugly pretty quick. A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate.
Director Stoned Band of Developers	Posted - 2008.02.04 04:59:00 - [2] well bob isn't dead yet. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Director Stoned well bob isn't dead yet. bob is 2,600 plus players. Tri is only around 1,000, tri is better in terms of quality, pound for pound.
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:05:00 - [4] Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Director Stoned well bob isn't dead yet. bob is 2,600 plus players. Tri is only around 1,000, tri is better in terms of quality, pound for pound. sry, nop
Director Stoned Band of Developers	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:05:00 - [5] Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Director Stoned well bob isn't dead yet. bob is 2,600 plus players. Tri is only around 1,000, tri is better in terms of quality, pound for pound. I'd prefer to just talk about BOB. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:10:00 - [6] I know a guy in Triumverate. I felt that bit of information wasn't any less relevant than any other post itt tby
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Jadzia Blue Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Director Stoned well bob isn't dead yet. bob is 2,600 plus players. Tri is only around 1,000, tri is better in terms of quality, pound for pound. sry, nop you have no evidence. guess people are jealous of Tri not suprised.
Garregus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:10:00 - [8] lol
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Dirk Magnum I know a guy in Triumverate. I felt that bit of information wasn't any less relevant than any other post itt tby it is relevant I probably know more ppl in Tri than you.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:14:00 - [10] Well if you know more than a guy then yes that would be correct
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:23:00 - [11] Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Director Stoned well bob isn't dead yet. bob is 2,600 plus players. Tri is only around 1,000, tri is better in terms of quality, pound for pound. I would highly recommend the Cippalipus Primus School of Propaganda. It is among the best in EvE. One of the best skills you learn is "how to post on CAOD - 101". Do your posts suck ballz, so you have your head up your ass? Those days are over with the Cippalipus Primus School of Propoganda, you are guaranteed to make quality posts on CAOD. If you feel like your CAOD posting alt is going nowhere, you have options. Cippalipus Primus can help you achive your dreams. For a mere 1 billion isk (payable to Funshine Unlimited) you can begin your journey to EXCELLENCE. Not only that, you will learn the timeless skills of a CAOD warrior in the advanced class on alt posting. In it you will learn the proper way to name an alt, the proper alt corp naming system, and the timeless arts of flame wars and circle jerking. I tell you, nothing gives you the satisfaction of a really good burn, I know thats how I feel. As a graduate you are GUARANTEED, to have a bright future. The future is now. Cippalipus Primus has what you need. Learn from the best, be the best. But thats not all, you can receive a free subscription to EvE Alt Posting Magazine, with all the news and latest insights into the world of alt posting. I tell you, Cippalipus Primus has it all. Cippalipus Primus: Propoganda at its best. Cippalipus Primus is a subsidiary of Goonfleet, and Goonswarm, all rights reserved. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:23:00 - [12] My K:D ratio > TRI.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:27:00 - [13] Re mi you are a goon alt so you are probably jealous, and die a lot to Tri. Does anyone have anything constructive to post?
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:29:00 - [14] Originally by: DragonFire1 Re mi you are a goon alt so you are probably jealous, and die a lot to Tri. Does anyone have anything constructive to post? You sunk my battleship!!! Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Jadzia Blue My K:D ratio > TRI. Tri never loses caps and look at how many they have killed. Facts.
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:33:00 - [16] Hrrm. How about, TRI like to jump into highsec when they're getting owned on a lowsec gate so they can get popped by NPCs, since they don't post NPC loses and it makes their K:D ratio look better. Or, the TRI of today and the TRI of yesterday are two different beasts. The old TRI was fairly decent. This new one is bloated, full of corps that are just riding "the next new thing." Or, the only alliances TRI fought were scrubs. Aftermath? Storm Armada? YouWhat? lol. Or, CVA. Or, nanofaggotry.
D8 PREACHER Reiskokopops	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:34:00 - [17] Originally by: DragonFire1 Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. oh look how sweet , a nerd who watched the last alliance pvp contest , saw angelx commentating and is now head over heals as there actually is a non blow up female that plays eve ( up to then females were a pure fantasy )
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Jadzia Blue Hrrm. How about, TRI like to jump into highsec when they're getting owned on a lowsec gate so they can get popped by NPCs, since they don't post NPC loses and it makes their K:D ratio look better. Or, the TRI of today and the TRI of yesterday are two different beasts. The old TRI was fairly decent. This new one is bloated, full of corps that are just riding "the next new thing." Or, the only alliances TRI fought were scrubs. Aftermath? Storm Armada? YouWhat? lol. Or, CVA. Or, nanofaggotry. At the time Tri were hugely outnumbered in fighting Youwhat, Aftermath, and Storm Armada. It was david vs. goliath. CVA was CCP's fault with not being able to manage lag. Dont hate nanoships you probably die to them.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:38:00 - [19] Originally by: D8 PREACHER Originally by: DragonFire1 Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. oh look how sweet , a nerd who watched the last alliance pvp contest , saw angelx commentating and is now head over heals as there actually is a non blow up female that plays eve ( up to then females were a pure fantasy ) Angel is a good fc and good leader from what I hear.
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:42:00 - [20] Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Jadzia Blue My K:D ratio > TRI. Tri never loses caps and look at how many they have killed. Facts. You know, I have always been bothered by the CAOD discrimination against alts. Alts are people too. They deserve respect and attention. And how many CAOD posting alts have been sent to the biomass reclamation pile. Why, a dozen a day must bravely sacrifice their all for CAOD. Isn't that the true measure of devotion? To give ones life for their cause? I say to you, now is the time for the alt, those lucky few who dare to have the bravery to spit in the face of history, and speak truth to power. Ah, if all of us could be so fortunate to be an alt, EvE would truly be a better place. Alts today, alts tomorrow, alts forever. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:42:00 - [21] I suspect she is a futa girl, from the amount of **** sucking you're doing atm.
Anikadir The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Re Mi Originally by: DragonFire1 Re mi you are a goon alt so you are probably jealous, and die a lot to Tri. Does anyone have anything constructive to post? You sunk my internet battleship!!! Fixed it for you
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Re Mi Alts today, alts tomorrow, alts forever. I love you.
DaiTengu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:45:00 - [24] TRI will never be a super power. Any time it takes more than 5 seconds for their modules to activate, they immediately go sit in the corner, cry, and cut themselves.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:47:00 - [25] Originally by: DaiTengu TRI will never be a super power. Any time it takes more than 5 seconds for their modules to activate, they immediately go sit in the corner, cry, and cut themselves. I smell more jealousy. move along
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:48:00 - [26] Edited by: DragonFire1 on 04/02/2008 05:48:20 Originally by: Jadzia Blue I suspect she is a futa girl, from the amount of **** sucking you're doing atm. Whatever futa means. Don't hate the player, hate the game. all my friends in tri say shes good tbh.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:49:00 - [27] Futa means you're good at online games.
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.04 05:54:00 - [28] Originally by: DragonFire1 Edited by: DragonFire1 on 04/02/2008 05:48:20 Originally by: Jadzia Blue I suspect she is a futa girl, from the amount of **** sucking you're doing atm. Whatever futa means. Don't hate the player, hate the game. all my friends in tri say shes good tbh. Pippin: "I didn't think it would end this way..." Gandalf: "End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...One that we all must take." Gandalf: "The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass..." Gandalf: "...And then you see it." Pippin: "What? Gandalf? ...See what?" Gandalf: "White shores...and beyond... the far green country under a swift sunrise." [They both smile as they look at each other.] Pippin: "Well, that isn't so bad." Gandalf: "No...No it isn't." Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 06:02:00 - [29] Edited by: DragonFire1 on 04/02/2008 06:02:19 Re Mi stay on topic ok, havn't seen anything credible knocking tri yet. cept jealousy
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.04 06:18:00 - [30] Originally by: DragonFire1 Edited by: DragonFire1 on 04/02/2008 06:02:19 Re Mi stay on topic ok, havn't seen anything credible knocking tri yet. cept jealousy Oh, we are supposed to post about how great Tri is. OK, here goes Tri walks on the flame Carrying the gasoline And the dynamite Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 06:54:00 - [31] Originally by: touchvill We may have e-peen and what not, most of it is spawned out of pride for the distance we have come and the circumstances we did it under. Oh, you (as in DOOM.) are fine. It's those other fgts that hopped on to ride what you, EXAN and YNC started.
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise	Posted - 2008.02.04 07:05:00 - [32] why do you hate tri? why would you wish such heavy leaning to pos warfare, and the horrible crap that flows with it. To be honest there has to be tons of goons that hate life and cut themselves in their sleep, I know how emo I got when I had 5 pos's to care for. The scale you are talking is a cruel and heartless thing to wish upon a person.
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.04 10:23:00 - [33] Originally by: DragonFire1 If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. ... A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate. Right, first of all TONS in capital letters in not a number. Its empotive propaganda. Second CVA only called on IAC and Goons to come down twice, so don't look badly on CVA what they are not too proud to call on friends when they need it. Most of the work was dont by CVA, and Tri themselves admitted that they were outfoxed by the fact that CVA played a really good defensive, objectives based fight. And if you look at the threads at the time they left there was no smacktalk on either side just mutual, if sometimes grudging, respect. Tri is a PVP based alliance. PVP based alliances tend to flower for a while and then fade as simple PVP is not really enough to sustain an alliance. Tri is clever enough to know that if it took on Morsus mihi or Razor they would put them into a grind fight and Tri would probably lose that and definably would not enjoy it. I mean no disrespect to Tri by saying that. Tri are very good at what they do. I was just reporting a personal opinion on trends I have seen. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Tek Halcyon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 10:31:00 - [34] Loses 120 T2 fitted BS to youwhat
Rennard Aku Soku Zan	Posted - 2008.02.04 10:34:00 - [35] Tri are pirates, and it will remain like that. It is the pirate mentality that provides fun for them. Otherwise they'll get bored.
Ur235 Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.04 10:39:00 - [36] Edited by: Ur235 on 04/02/2008 10:40:42 I was in Illuminati for about a month during the youwhat campaign. Tri do hve very good fc's and there pvpers are top quality. Sure Tri lost like 100 bs's (due to 400km instapopping pos guns) and a dread to a pos but once they learned from the mistakes they made in the first real pos assault, all the other pos's fell pretty easily. Also Tri always have like 3 or 4 roaming gangs going about eve at one time. And because of that alot of their pilots have alot of experience Im not saying Tri are the next superpower though (thats for everyone else to decide) im just saying they are very good at what they do. Gl Tri
Director Stoned Band of Developers	Posted - 2008.02.04 10:41:00 - [37] Originally by: D8 PREACHER Originally by: DragonFire1 Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. saw angelx commentating and is now head over heals as there actually is a non blow up female that plays eve Quote: Actually it's the blow up females you have to watch out for Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:25:00 - [38] Lol what a load of rubbish. The first line is the best, not in any 0.0 alliance... good one. Its all just conjecture with you, they have "really" good fc's, and "very very good" pvpers, killed "TONS" of caps. Its like an infant trying to prove his point by saying "it just is". Your point about them not losing ANY caps ships is totally false. Tri also had alot of help killing SOME of the previous owners of dek, namely MC, youwhat, aftermath, m.pire etc etc. They used them, then kicked the crap out of them when MC left. More conjecture becomes apparent when you throw up your theories about being positive that tri would "spank razor and mm badly", why do you think that? Tri is fighting EVERYONE in the north? Another poor generalisation, there is about 3 alliances fighting them, most of the rest are down south attacking BoB. Insurgency for one are doing well against triumvirate, not to mention SMASHKILL's completely unhindered trip into deklien a week or so ago. Not looking to much like ametuers to me. The CVA campaign shows on the tri killboard as 19 billion in kills, and 31 billion in losses. Anyway you look at it, thats not good. CVA rarely called on "many allies", but any skilled leadership would surely predict that thier enemy would have help from thier allies, and prepare for it if the problem did indeed arise. So i dont really see how it was a surprise when Goons and IAC turned up to play. You cant expect to go round around shooting pos's and not attracting attention. Dont get me wrong, i think tri a good PVP entity, but they arent Godly like your making them out to be.
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:26:00 - [39] Edited by: Ozstar on 04/02/2008 12:27:10 We're not a super power and dont claim to be, these trolls have their own agenda and should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:57:00 - [40] Edited by: Murina on 04/02/2008 12:59:03 Firstly let me say that Tri are a great bunch of ppl and have some great FC's and pvpers in their ranks, i was with them in the north for a while until a buddy asked me to join and help out with his corp. But before you start looking for a new super power you should realy define how the title is to be measured because if it is by holding space then all the next super power needs in numbers and naps as recient history shows us. But if you wish to measure it by K/D ratio's then you can count out a lot of the larger alliances in eve because they are awful at actual pvp and rely on numbers, naps and blob spamming to do anything. Although they normaly stick to taking/holding space as this is the type of combat (if you can call it that) that they can actualy succeed at by wieght of sheer volume. Ultimatley things will be measured by what ppl enjoy most ingame for instance ppl like myself will measure alliances by how well they fight outnumbered in non laggy conditions and how good their K/D ratio's are. Others will measure it by how many ppl they can recruit, how many naps they have with other huge alliances and how much space they hold. HEY LISTEN is my hero not my alt.
Chip2k3 Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:03:00 - [41] trui are a great bunch of pvp'ers, very professional at what they do and the fights i've had with them (especially friday night) have been great. that being said, i think you're a bit of a fanboi, unless they are shooting noobs they lose more than 20BS's (we killed 30, lost 45 on friday i think, roughly even numbers) before Stella Polar etc jumped in to try and finish them off (vultures!) so tri are anything but invincible (and i was told they got spanked down in CVA space, although the likeliness of me being mis-informed is high) MEMBER OF TEAM TURBOÖ
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:26:00 - [42] Request that this thread be locked. Dark
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Ozstar Edited by: Ozstar on 04/02/2008 12:27:10 We're not a super power and dont claim to be, these trolls have their own agenda and should be taken with a pinch of salt. mostly they are from wreckless and are trying to get everyone to kill tri vOv
Centauris Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:43:00 - [44] TRI is good and im sure will do big things, as far as super power how do you measure one in terms of being a super power? You cant. EVE will have different alliances, different playerbase and different goals and ofc alliances will have there own measurement of their "power", who are we to say that they are or are not or will or will not be a super power? -1/10 Thundercats 4 Life
Estephania Independent Political Analysts	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:48:00 - [45] TRI is a very good PvP alliance, there's no doubt about that, but unless RA-Goon-AAA nap breaks up no alliance will be able to stop them if BoB fails.They've already have the whole South under control. That block controls more space than BoB ever controlled (and BoB was considered a dire threat to all 0.0 alliances). RA are slowly taking over drone regions. If BoB loses the war (and that is a big IF), the Northern coalition of MM, IRON, Pure and whatever else is there will fall apart very quickly. BRUCE will follow them shortly afterwords. The only real PvP power in the North is a TRI block, but it will have very hard time repelling the RAGoon invasion should it come to that. If BoB loses the war, the future of Eve is RED.
DaveyE Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.04 14:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: DragonFire1 If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. ... A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate. Right, first of all TONS in capital letters in not a number. Its empotive propaganda. Second CVA only called on IAC and Goons to come down twice, so don't look badly on CVA what they are not too proud to call on friends when they need it. Most of the work was dont by CVA, and Tri themselves admitted that they were outfoxed by the fact that CVA played a really good defensive, objectives based fight. And if you look at the threads at the time they left there was no smacktalk on either side just mutual, if sometimes grudging, respect. Tri is a PVP based alliance. PVP based alliances tend to flower for a while and then fade as simple PVP is not really enough to sustain an alliance. Tri is clever enough to know that if it took on Morsus mihi or Razor they would put them into a grind fight and Tri would probably lose that and definably would not enjoy it. I mean no disrespect to Tri by saying that. Tri are very good at what they do. I was just reporting a personal opinion on trends I have seen. Could,nt of said it better, Tri are 1st class PvP,s, However A sustained fight with onr or more of the major Northern Alliances = Not good for Tri in the long run - Yea lots of fights but its not all like that and we know it (Hard Graft anyone) Tri are always running Gank squads through Tribute and are having good success i believe, But the Cats away remember :) When it gets back = Who knows
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.04 14:03:00 - [47] Originally by: DragonFire1 Does anyone have anything constructive to post? quoting irony for the failboat what is the next port of call Captain Stubing If babies were not meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be hibachi sized.
Matrixcvd Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 14:57:00 - [48] Edited by: Matrixcvd on 04/02/2008 15:06:08 Edited by: Matrixcvd on 04/02/2008 14:57:59 Originally by: DaiTengu Any time it takes more than 5 seconds for their modules to activate, they immediately go sit in the corner, cry, and cut themselves. because the collective majority of pew pewers out there want to see their friends and loved ones die to packet loss? i get home from work to play internet space ships and when internet space ships turns into internet black log in screen, internet perpetual do nothing and watch weird stuff on computer monitor, or any other combination of internet lag monster then i get bored and go somewhere else. People play for pew pew or to practice being napoleon. I like internet space ships with pew pew, others like internet napoleon simulator with amazing load times . Take your pick
CARY Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:07:00 - [49] Originally by: DragonFire1 Before I go on, I just wanna say that i'm not in any 0.0 alliance. Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. They have really good fc's, and very very good pvpers. If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. Tri destroyed all the previous owners of deklein, doing it with ease. If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Tri is fighting everyone in the north making them look like amateurs tbh. Just look at the killboards, its usually 100 battleships to 20 lost or something. If Tri joined the Bob war, a fleet of 100+ of the best pvpers and fc's could turn the tide for either side. Would get ugly pretty quick. A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate. Well there is 1 big problem with TRI to become a superpowe, you can't be the enemy of all. I see TRI as being just what they are and will remain. I just don't see anything more to come out of TRI. I don't see them ever expanding out of the region that they are in now. TRI plays its game well but what you see will more likely be all you see. No disrespect to TRI.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:12:00 - [50] Originally by: Re Mi Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Director Stoned well bob isn't dead yet. bob is 2,600 plus players. Tri is only around 1,000, tri is better in terms of quality, pound for pound. I would highly recommend the Cippalipus Primus School of Propaganda. It is among the best in EvE. One of the best skills you learn is "how to post on CAOD - 101". Do your posts suck ballz, so you have your head up your ass? Those days are over with the Cippalipus Primus School of Propoganda, you are guaranteed to make quality posts on CAOD. If you feel like your CAOD posting alt is going nowhere, you have options. Cippalipus Primus can help you achive your dreams. For a mere 1 billion isk (payable to Funshine Unlimited) you can begin your journey to EXCELLENCE. Not only that, you will learn the timeless skills of a CAOD warrior in the advanced class on alt posting. In it you will learn the proper way to name an alt, the proper alt corp naming system, and the timeless arts of flame wars and circle jerking. I tell you, nothing gives you the satisfaction of a really good burn, I know thats how I feel. As a graduate you are GUARANTEED, to have a bright future. The future is now. Cippalipus Primus has what you need. Learn from the best, be the best. But thats not all, you can receive a free subscription to EvE Alt Posting Magazine, with all the news and latest insights into the world of alt posting. I tell you, Cippalipus Primus has it all. Cippalipus Primus: Propoganda at its best. Cippalipus Primus is a subsidiary of Goonfleet, and Goonswarm, all rights reserved. what the hell is this -clp
Major PewPew Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:15:00 - [51] Originally by: DragonFire1 Before I go on, I just wanna say that i'm not in any 0.0 alliance. Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. They have really good fc's, and very very good pvpers. If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. Tri destroyed all the previous owners of deklein, doing it with ease. If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Tri is fighting everyone in the north making them look like amateurs tbh. Just look at the killboards, its usually 100 battleships to 20 lost or something. If Tri joined the Bob war, a fleet of 100+ of the best pvpers and fc's could turn the tide for either side. Would get ugly pretty quick. A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate. I'm pretty sure you should be posting this "Pro-Tri" post with your Tri main, m8
BuIIseye Amarr Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:15:00 - [52] The future's bright, the future's orangeÖ From all the mod snipping that will be in this thread ------------------------------ Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:17:00 - [53] RZR has not lost a ton of caps to TRI. We haven't lost a single one to them in 7 months if my kb checkups are correct. :) With that said though. They are very good and deffo a top 5 powerful alliance in all of eve. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Boom ChickaBoom Caldari Friendly Pod Poppers	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:22:00 - [54] Im not bashing tri in any way but k/d ratios dont mean a thing. There k/d ratio look good because they constantly roam looking for easy ganks. When they engage a pvp force equal to the size of there own the numbers are much more balanced. Killing a razor or MM cap ship sitting outside of pos shileds or at a gate dont make them superior. Also as far as them not losing caps thats because they dont put there caps on the line. If they were to make a push to take any MM or razor sopace on there own they would probally fail because of numbers.
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:39:00 - [55] Originally by: DaiTengu TRI will never be a super power. Any time it takes more than 5 seconds for their modules to activate, they immediately go sit in the corner, cry, and cut themselves. Paper cut amirite? _______________
Pride NL Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:45:00 - [56] It seems Shinra is back again. I'd keep an eye on them. Arrive. Raise Hell. Leave.
X Kent Russian Specnaz Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:50:00 - [57] Originally by: DragonFire1 If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Happened in the past, about a year and half ago(D2 days). I myself was fighting at Tri side while being in RISK. Tri were good, but failed to archive any real goals against the north coalition of the past AFAIK.
Velios M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:03:00 - [58] By saying that one entity or another will become the next superpower of EVE is also to say that the same entity is also doomed to annihilation by the greater community once they decide to band together. When an alliance hit's the top, the clock is ticking before it's eventual downfall. If bob do fail in time against all that EVE is throwing at them, we then have to look at who is the next major benefactor of EVE's resourses... Who has the mst territory?, who earns the most? Who do people resent the most?... Once that is established, a slow gathering of players and alliances will form until a critical mass is reached and once again the next big cheese is ready to fall. Often in EVE it's better to be the little guy, OR if you are going to be the next big thing, do it nice - then at least the time you have at the top might last a little longer when you get there. M.Corp BPC Packs
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:20:00 - [59] Originally by: X Kent Originally by: DragonFire1 If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Happened in the past, about a year and half ago(D2 days). I myself was fighting at Tri side while being in RISK. Tri were good, but failed to archive any real goals against the north coalition of the past AFAIK. To fail against the northern coalition is pretty embarrassing tbh.. after years of trying to shoot bob, it's taken them to limpet onto the main southern powers to have any real affect.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:49:00 - [60] Originally by: Fred0 RZR has not lost a ton of caps to TRI. We haven't lost a single one to them in 7 months if my kb checkups are correct. :) With that said though. They are very good and deffo a top 5 powerful alliance in all of eve. :) my bad, MM has lost a ton. I would love to see Tri fight Morsus Mihi and destroy them, pvpers vs. carebears. to all the haters, don't be jealous of Tri because they are dominant. Nano gangs own you.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:51:00 - [61] Originally by: X Kent Originally by: DragonFire1 If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Happened in the past, about a year and half ago(D2 days). I myself was fighting at Tri side while being in RISK. Tri were good, but failed to archive any real goals against the north coalition of the past AFAIK. Tri failed because it was flying with people who were incompetent. Had Tri flown alone Tri would have been more effective.
Sultry Black Minmatar Black Hearts	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:56:00 - [62] Originally by: Tellenta why do you hate tri? why would you wish such heavy leaning to pos warfare, and the horrible crap that flows with it. To be honest there has to be tons of goons that hate life and cut themselves in their sleep, I know how emo I got when I had 5 pos's to care for. The scale you are talking is a cruel and heartless thing to wish upon a person. A fitting end for Goonswarm. They get exactly what they want. The Monkey's Paw.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:56:00 - [63] hello Tri alt, dragonfire... are you in dragons of redemption from Tri? ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:57:00 - [64] Originally by: BobTheMechanic hello Tri alt, dragonfire... are you in dragons of redemption from Tri? i'm a neutral entity i'm not in tri you IDIOT. stay on topic
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:58:00 - [65] Originally by: BobTheMechanic hello Tri alt, dragonfire... are you in dragons of redemption from Tri? i said in my first post i'm neutral can you NOT READ?
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:59:00 - [66] lol Tri alt detected ding ding ding! ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:01:00 - [67] Originally by: BobTheMechanic lol Tri alt detected ding ding ding! did tri kill you and your bitter or something? stay on topic
SigmaPi Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:06:00 - [68] Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: BobTheMechanic hello Tri alt, dragonfire... are you in dragons of redemption from Tri? i'm a neutral entity i'm not in tri you IDIOT. stay on topic tbh you should get the ban stick because your blatently flamebaiting. Other people are discussing the topic and your just flaming them all. Shut up alt. SigmaPi Cutting Edge Incorporated Executive Commander RAZOR Alliance
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:08:00 - [69] He trolls to much to be a tri alt. Probably someone who want to ruin their reputation... They refused your application? ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
DaveyE Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:09:00 - [70] Edited by: DaveyE on 04/02/2008 17:11:47 Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Fred0 RZR has not lost a ton of caps to TRI. We haven't lost a single one to them in 7 months if my kb checkups are correct. :) With that said though. They are very good and deffo a top 5 powerful alliance in all of eve. :) my bad, MM has lost a ton. I would love to see Tri fight Morsus Mihi and destroy them, pvpers vs. carebears. to all the haters, don't be jealous of Tri because they are dominant. Nano gangs own you. LOL You just dont get it do ya !!!!! Tri could,nt beat Morsus Mihi or any other Northern Alliance why ? Cos they DONT (REPEAT DONT) wanna get involved in POS Wars They dont like it and i hear this from the top As for MM being Carebears = Go ask MC ect However My predicition is that there will be lots of real pew pew in Tribute when we eventually get back from Fountain Looking forward to it! Everyones happy Move along "Arguing with Idiots is pointless They,ll just drag you down to their level and slaughter you with intellect" "Voltaire"
Jadzia Blue Department of Truth Enhancement	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:12:00 - [71] I wonder. If I mention the TRI Machariel that lost to a Vagabond, and a Stabber (ok, and a rat) that I noticed from the SHC comedy kills thread, will Dragonfire completely ignore that too, as he ignored my previous point (TRI jumping into highsec while criminal flagged to get blown up by NPCs so they don't have to post their loss).
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:14:00 - [72] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Originally by: Re Mi what the hell is this My attempt at goon humor, and I am abusing the Goon posting system. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Karunel Princeps Corp T e r c i o s	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:30:00 - [73] Quote: At the time Tri were hugely outnumbered in fighting Youwhat, Aftermath, and Storm Armada. It was david vs. goliath. CVA was CCP's fault with not being able to manage lag. Dont hate nanoships you probably die to them. Triumvirate didn't fight against these entities combined. ____ Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:51:00 - [74] Originally by: Karunel Quote: At the time Tri were hugely outnumbered in fighting Youwhat, Aftermath, and Storm Armada. It was david vs. goliath. CVA was CCP's fault with not being able to manage lag. Dont hate nanoships you probably die to them. Triumvirate didn't fight against these entities combined. I never said they fought them together. Youwhat had 2,500 members +, Tri had like 1100 ish. david vs. goliath
DragonFire1 The Twelve	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:52:00 - [75] Originally by: Jadzia Blue I wonder. If I mention the TRI Machariel that lost to a Vagabond, and a Stabber (ok, and a rat) that I noticed from the SHC comedy kills thread, will Dragonfire completely ignore that too, as he ignored my previous point (TRI jumping into highsec while criminal flagged to get blown up by NPCs so they don't have to post their loss). you have no killmail so for all I know you could be making this up. 1/10
Doctor Mario LightHammer MAC	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:58:00 - [76] Hey DragonFire1, i have read your OP and i found the proof. ---- It's-a me! Mario!
Xem3d	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:20:00 - [77] Originally by: Doctor Mario Hey DragonFire1, i have read your OP and i found the proof. ROFL I had to stop my carebearing to laugh at that !!!!!!!
fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:31:00 - [78] Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Jadzia Blue My K:D ratio > TRI. Tri never loses caps and look at how many they have killed. Facts. i dont lose caps either, but i also generally dont engage in pos warfare. kind of like tri. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:38:00 - [79] I like Tri, I really do. Good bunch of guys, generally, and good PvPers- generally well talented, and always up for a fight. Consistent, and always willing to put their money where their mouth is. But enough of the fricking speculation. They aren't BoB because BoB are BoB. Goons aren't BoB either, and RA also aren't BoB. BoB isn't even dead yet, and yet we get 2 posts a day theorising who the next BoB is. Hell, previous "superpowers", elected by public opinion, haven't been what they were ***ed up to be. Anyone remember how well ASCN did, (allegedly) the richest alliance ever to exist? How about D2- did they live up to their superpower designation? If we forum-*s can't even figure out who the superpowers are when they actually exist, how successful do you think we're gonna be at predicting the future? ------ Originally by:** Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
ceyriot Minmatar Crimson Rebellion	Posted - 2008.02.05 04:11:00 - [80] this is'nt bad, BoB and others need to be/willl get whittled down fighting each other, and besides, those alts/noobs/miners boosting the numbers (imo) can't do anything when the shooting starts. Especially the miners, once a strong fleet kills all the PvPers, theres pretty much no resistance. It will take some time, but if they can keep rising in members and keep with the skill, they will come out on top.
Dianeces Minmatar Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.02.05 04:21:00 - [81] In the grim future of Eve Online, there are only bunnies. Cute and fluffy little pink bunnies.
n0sPIG Pakehaz.	Posted - 2008.02.05 04:38:00 - [82] LOL at the bait and reel tactic, mr alt. Go go forum warriors, replying to the man with the ! face. GJ
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.05 04:56:00 - [83] Tri will not become a superpower because right now, in EVE, to be a superpower requires a vicious grind through blood and gore and POS. No one in their right mind would try to become top dog right now, since those at the time have just got their and are at their strongest. A few months or perhaps a year and it would be possible, but the south is sown up tight and really, who wants to be the superpower of the north? To grab from just about every other lengthy post, no offense to Tri, but to be king of the hill requires much more than being good at PvP. These are the views of my corp/alliance/deity of choice
INZi coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.05 05:01:00 - [84] i am the new bob cause i'm better then you. now im gonna drink my rosehip soup. ta-taa _
Lobo13 Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.05 05:22:00 - [85] Got a lot of good friends in Tri. I know they like to pew pew, all that matters. Much Respect. Lobo13. I'm no alt, your an alt, in fact your mom is an alt too!
Zandramus D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.05 05:25:00 - [86] death to alts....a useless thred about a useless topic gg
Robert0288 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2008.02.05 09:19:00 - [87] Originally by: DragonFire1 Had Tri flown alone Tri would have been more effective. wtf? Thats like saying to win against a blob you have to bring less ships proof: big blob vs big blob = tie (node crash) big blob vs small blob = big > small
Serkis Caldari The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:09:00 - [88] Yikes, relax on the ass kissing dude! Tri is good but not good enough to deserve a public rimjob for it.
flakeys Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:23:00 - [89] Originally by: DragonFire1 Before I go on, I just wanna say that i'm not in any 0.0 alliance. Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. They have really good fc's, and very very good pvpers. If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. Tri destroyed all the previous owners of deklein, doing it with ease. If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Tri is fighting everyone in the north making them look like amateurs tbh. Just look at the killboards, its usually 100 battleships to 20 lost or something. If Tri joined the Bob war, a fleet of 100+ of the best pvpers and fc's could turn the tide for either side. Would get ugly pretty quick. A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate. So you ordered the 'TRI IS GODMODE' shirt to match with your 'TRI IS BETTER THEN BABY JESUS' wallpapers?
Candiman Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:56:00 - [90] DragonFire1 - The twelve, xxAngelxx, The Illuminati, google the twelve, and illuminati, just saying
Malaphar Amarr W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:00:00 - [91] Well , Tri are kewl guys , pretty skilled pvpers , especially nanogangers. It's quite fun to chase them around just like yesterday in BWF or like a few weeks ago all the way to their homes. Nevertheless , they aint gonna be no superpower.They dont have the sheer numbers required for that (check the gooniebees...) , the necessary skills to get that awfully boring NAPfest in the south or the backstabbing skills of ra (). Actually , all of us here in the north pretty much enjoy our little fights ... at least until some of these "powah blocs" show some interest around ! Quote: Meet the best , die like the rest!
ElweSingollo Starlancers Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:44:00 - [92] Edited by: ElweSingollo on 05/02/2008 12:45:31 Originally by: fugazii Originally by: DragonFire1 Originally by: Jadzia Blue My K:D ratio > TRI. Tri never loses caps and look at how many they have killed. Facts. i dont lose caps either, but i also generally dont engage in pos warfare. kind of like tri. In fairness to Tri they do use there caps but in big engagements when they bring such a **load that unless you have an uber omg wtf blob of cap ships yourself your going to be pretty much fried. A lot of the Tri cap kills I have seen on thier KB have actually been performed by hac/cmd gangs and b/s gangs. CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature In Before I Get M** Again*
facepalm johnson a sackful of sacrificial sacrifices	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:48:00 - [93] I'd love to see Triumvorates as the next superpower. Then we could have lots more entertaining ISD stories about how they lost the war and went back to ganking carebears.
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:52:00 - [94] the next superpower is going to be bruce if i have my way not even kidding 100% seriouspostin' jqv brosefs OG STRAIGHT OUTTA SYNDICATE booyah o/\o
ElweSingollo Starlancers Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.05 15:23:00 - [95] Originally by: The Mittani the next superpower is going to be bruce if i have my way not even kidding 100% seriouspostin' jqv brosefs OG STRAIGHT OUTTA SYNDICATE booyah o/\o Nah definately gonna be Derek tbh CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature *In Before I Get M* Again*
Veretas Skies	Posted - 2008.02.05 19:37:00 - [96] Originally by: The Mittani the next superpower is going to be bruce if i have my way not even kidding 100% seriouspostin' jqv brosefs OG STRAIGHT OUTTA SYNDICATE booyah o/\o See this is a serious post. Very serious. deadserious, if you will. hi mittens I love you
Warden Kell Wages Of Sin Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.02.05 19:44:00 - [97] Originally by: ElweSingollo Originally by: The Mittani the next superpower is going to be bruce if i have my way not even kidding 100% seriouspostin' jqv brosefs OG STRAIGHT OUTTA SYNDICATE booyah o/\o Nah definately gonna be Derek tbh "Gonna be" ?! Derek already controls the game.
Elizabeth Fallbrook GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.05 19:57:00 - [98] Originally by: Eskalin Originally by: DragonFire1 Does anyone have anything constructive to post? quoting irony for the failboat i agree with the bob guy. get out of caod and :gb2jita:
XxAngelxX Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.05 20:04:00 - [99] Tbh I think the alts care more about what TRI is doing that we do :P Seriously though, super power == naps. Its the way eve has evolved (or devolved) and it's not something we're interested in at the moment. I enjoy not undocking and going 40 jumps to still fly through a sea of blue, I enjoy being able to activate my modules on my ships, enjoy dying to players instead of POS and this is why we'll never be "great". But what I think we are, is great fun. --------------------------------------
Spike Spiegle Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.05 20:10:00 - [100] Originally by: DragonFire1 Does anyone have anything constructive to post? If you wanted constructive responses you should have made a constructive post! Tri are good but not that good
Securion Wolfheart Not Like Most	Posted - 2008.02.05 20:20:00 - [101] Originally by: XxAngelxX Tbh I think the alts care more about what TRI is doing that we do :P Seriously though, super power == naps. Its the way eve has evolved (or devolved) and it's not something we're interested in at the moment. I enjoy not undocking and going 40 jumps to still fly through a sea of blue, I enjoy being able to activate my modules on my ships, enjoy dying to players instead of POS and this is why we'll never be "great". But what I think we are, is great fun. Sadly, I think that if BOB dies, Triumvirate should take it easy not to **** any of the current members of the Cryilition off too much, or Triumvirate might have their own "Alamo" in Deklein... If that happens, give them hell... The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns...
Johan Moisander Caldari Black Panther Corporation	Posted - 2008.02.05 23:09:00 - [102] Salamu aleikum, brother. I would have to go with papertiger on this one. this is the opinion of me personally and not my alliance/andorcorp
Atiro Kali Caldari eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.05 23:22:00 - [103] Originally by: DragonFire1 Before I go on, I just wanna say that i'm not in any 0.0 alliance. Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. They have really good fc's, and very very good pvpers. If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. Tri destroyed all the previous owners of deklein, doing it with ease. If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Tri is fighting everyone in the north making them look like amateurs tbh. Just look at the killboards, its usually 100 battleships to 20 lost or something. If Tri joined the Bob war, a fleet of 100+ of the best pvpers and fc's could turn the tide for either side. Would get ugly pretty quick. A lot of people give Tri crap for fighting CVA, but they won most of the fights and CVA had to call on many allies. Other then that, Tri has been unstoppable so I don't see why all the hate. Honestly if I were Darkness or any of the other leaders in TRI I would target this noob next honestly. If he is a TRI alt he is making you all look silly if he isn't he is causing you to look silly. My honest unasked for advice. Kill him... often. 0/ for the good pvper's of TRI. "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space"
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.05 23:34:00 - [104] Originally by: Securion Wolfheart Sadly, I think that if BOB dies, Triumvirate should take it easy not to **** any of the current members of the Cryilition off too much, or Triumvirate might have their own "Alamo" in Deklein... If that happens, give them hell... none of us want deklien or whatever ugh
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.05 23:43:00 - [105] Tri will never be a superpower because: 1. They post with stupid alts like this 2. They cannot beat anyone besides Youwhat and Aftermath Alliance 3. They cry whenever there is lag 4. Their leaders wish cancer upon people 5. They say they are great fun, but it seems they only want to win. Nano gangs means they can gank, and run at any sign of a fight. I do think Tri is very good at killing pets though. MC pets, razor pets, they are da pro pet killers. \O/ ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
Mad Mackem The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 00:30:00 - [106] Originally by: BobTheMechanic Tri will never be a superpower because: 1. They post with stupid alts like this 2. They cannot beat anyone besides Youwhat and Aftermath Alliance 3. They cry whenever there is lag 4. Their leaders wish cancer upon people 5. They say they are great fun, but it seems they only want to win. Nano gangs means they can gank, and run at any sign of a fight. I do think Tri is very good at killing pets though. MC pets, razor pets, they are da pro pet killers. \O/ Is that all you do, post in TRI topics? Get a life ffs.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 00:44:00 - [107] Originally by: Mad Mackem Originally by: BobTheMechanic Tri will never be a superpower because: 1. They post with stupid alts like this 2. They cannot beat anyone besides Youwhat and Aftermath Alliance 3. They cry whenever there is lag 4. Their leaders wish cancer upon people 5. They say they are great fun, but it seems they only want to win. Nano gangs means they can gank, and run at any sign of a fight. I do think Tri is very good at killing pets though. MC pets, razor pets, they are da pro pet killers. \O/ Is that all you do, post in TRI topics? Get a life ffs. whats funny is its ALL TRUE, and you guys always respond to me so I know I'm **ing you off. HAHAHAHAHAHA <3 forums \O/ ******** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 00:54:00 - [108] Originally by: Tek Halcyon Loses 120 T2 fitted BS to youwhat OUR K:D RATIO!
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 01:22:00 - [109] Originally by: BobTheMechanic Tri will never be a superpower because: 1. They post with stupid alts like this 2. They cannot beat anyone besides Youwhat and Aftermath Alliance 3. They cry whenever there is lag 4. Their leaders wish cancer upon people 5. They say they are great fun, but it seems they only want to win. Nano gangs means they can gank, and run at any sign of a fight. I do think Tri is very good at killing pets though. MC pets, razor pets, they are da pro pet killers. \O/ The OP is probably your alt.
ceyriot Minmatar Crimson Rebellion	Posted - 2008.02.06 02:09:00 - [110] Tri CAN and only MIGHT be a superpower if a couple things i see coming happen... 1. The goon coalition kills BoB 2. Nobody ****es off goon/allies for a couple weeks 3. The goon coalition dissolves into a civil war 4. Tri comes in with guns blazing.
Aprudena Gist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:16:00 - [111] Originally by: ceyriot Tri CAN and only MIGHT be a superpower if a couple things i see coming happen... 1. The goon coalition kills BoB 2. Nobody ****es off goon/allies for a couple weeks 3. The goon coalition dissolves into a civil war 4. Tri comes in with guns blazing. you really think tri will win a pos war?
Gjs312 The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:50:00 - [112] Originally by: BobTheMechanic Tri will never be a superpower because: 1. They post with stupid alts like this 2. They cannot beat anyone besides Youwhat and Aftermath Alliance 3. They cry whenever there is lag 4. Their leaders wish cancer upon people 5. They say they are great fun, but it seems they only want to win. Nano gangs means they can gank, and run at any sign of a fight. I do think Tri is very good at killing pets though. MC pets, razor pets, they are da pro pet killers. \O/ Get. Cancer. Thanks -Gj
Gjs312 The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:54:00 - [113] Anyway these threads really suck, stop making them. We were January's fotm please go away, thanks.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:54:00 - [114] I have cancer of the buttocks ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:55:00 - [115] Originally by: Gjs312 Anyway these threads really suck, stop making them. We were January's fotm please go away, thanks. thx 4 the bump. ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
Gjs312 The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:57:00 - [116] Originally by: BobTheMechanic Originally by: Gjs312 Anyway these threads really suck, stop making them. We were January's fotm please go away, thanks. thx 4 the bump. Hey man, your main might have gotten kicked out of our alliance, but you'll never get kicked out of my heart, bobthemechanic .
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 05:59:00 - [117] Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: BobTheMechanic Originally by: Gjs312 Anyway these threads really suck, stop making them. We were January's fotm please go away, thanks. thx 4 the bump. Hey man, your main might have gotten kicked out of our alliance, but you'll never get kicked out of my heart, bobthemechanic . ya nps. i would luv to be in tri!!!!!!! lollin ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
WraithFire Cassandra's Light	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:00:00 - [118] Edited by: WraithFire on 06/02/2008 06:00:27 Originally by: Warden Kell Originally by: ElweSingollo Originally by: The Mittani the next superpower is going to be bruce if i have my way not even kidding 100% seriouspostin' jqv brosefs OG STRAIGHT OUTTA SYNDICATE booyah o/\o Nah definately gonna be Derek tbh "Gonna be" ?! Derek already controls the game. Well that is the answer to this thread then coz Derek Do Know.
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:00:00 - [119] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: X Kent Originally by: DragonFire1 If Tri ever fought razor and morsus mihi, I'm positive Tri would spank them badly. Happened in the past, about a year and half ago(D2 days). I myself was fighting at Tri side while being in RISK. Tri were good, but failed to archive any real goals against the north coalition of the past AFAIK. To fail against the northern coalition is pretty embarrassing tbh.. after years of trying to shoot bob, it's taken them to limpet onto the main southern powers to have any real affect.. you mean fail like atuk did when tried to conquer 4s space up there long time ago ? so they napped fe hoping that will help but faild again...
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.06 10:37:00 - [120] Edited by: thoth foc on 06/02/2008 10:36:57 Originally by: Don Z0LA Originally by: thoth foc To fail against the northern coalition is pretty embarrassing tbh.. after years of trying to shoot bob, it's taken them to limpet onto the main southern powers to have any real affect.. you mean fail like atuk did when tried to conquer 4s space up there long time ago ? so they napped fe hoping that will help but faild again... we had branch and venal.. why would we ever have wanted 4s's space? we took a couple of trips down their way.. but the pew pew was better elsewhere.. (farming IRON ftw!) OMG ATUK IN OUR SPACE!! THEY ARE COMING TO CONQUER US!! _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.02.06 11:43:00 - [121] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 06/02/2008 10:36:57 Originally by: Don Z0LA Originally by: thoth foc To fail against the northern coalition is pretty embarrassing tbh.. after years of trying to shoot bob, it's taken them to limpet onto the main southern powers to have any real affect.. you mean fail like atuk did when tried to conquer 4s space up there long time ago ? so they napped fe hoping that will help but faild again... we had branch and venal.. why would we ever have wanted 4s's space? we took a couple of trips down their way.. but the pew pew was better elsewhere.. (farming IRON ftw!) OMG ATUK IN OUR SPACE!! THEY ARE COMING TO CONQUER US!! yea sieging poses is for fun fights, sorry i forgot you guys are after epic fights... YEA RITE :D
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.06 12:05:00 - [122] Edited by: thoth foc on 06/02/2008 12:05:15 Originally by: Don Z0LA yea sieging poses is for fun fights, sorry i forgot you guys are after epic fights... YEA RITE :D i suppose when your used to camping empire jumps and ganking.. anything more long term than "oh the gate flashed" is hard to understand.. dont worry i dont expect more from you ;-) _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Don ZOLA Caldari Omniscient Order	Posted - 2008.02.06 12:27:00 - [123] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 06/02/2008 12:05:15 Originally by: Don Z0LA yea sieging poses is for fun fights, sorry i forgot you guys are after epic fights... YEA RITE :D i suppose when your used to camping empire jumps and ganking.. anything more long term than "oh the gate flashed" is hard to understand.. dont worry i dont expect more from you ;-) haha you are so funny. not. you failed even at humour :\| pitty you dont have a clue. but dont worry i didnt expected it anyway, you are atuk forum fighter ;-) whole eve agrees with you that pos fights are most fun and epic fights, except multiple titans dd in cynojammed systems which are even more fun and epic! :D
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 12:31:00 - [124] Originally by: DragonFire1 Before I go on, I just wanna say that i'm not in any 0.0 alliance. Out of all the powers, I think triumvirate is the next superpower. O.o Quote: They have really good fc's, and very very good pvpers. If you look at the skirmishes in the north, they have killed TONS of morsus mihi and razor caps. Tri doesn't lose any. We do, we just don't post the killmails. Darknesss sent out an alliance mail saying not to post any further losses because we've taken so many, we're being seen as "paper tigers". Therefore, if we don't post them, people will think we win these engagements. Darknesss has also hired a ***** team of programmers who are systematically going through the RAZOR and MM killboards, removing any trace of posts which contain Tri losses. -- Sir, I don't understand why we train for ECM, sir - in a fleet battle all you got to do is press buttons. THE ENEMY CANNOT PRESS A BUTTON IF YOU DISABLE HIS LOCK. MEDIC!
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 13:22:00 - [125] Well... As a total outsider who just eagerly follows the 0.0 war descriptions here is my (probably worthless) 2 cents. The Goons will be the dominate superpower in EvE for the forseeable future, until the next great logistical juggernaut takes its place. For all the bashing of the Goons, we have learned quite a bit about EvE from their war with BoB. 1. High skillpoints and K/D ratios, while fun for small gang PvP, have little impact on territorial control (which is the EvE endgame). The traditional metrics that have been used to define "greatness" in this game are now almost entirely obsolete. 2. The ability to bring other alliance and factions into your cause is essential. 3. Logistics, logistics, logistics. Logistics, more than any other factor, determines the success of a large alliance in EvE. I'm not just talking about the micro logistics like stront timing and moving large forces, but also Macro logistics like maintaing proper supply and coordinating multi-front attacks with a variety of parties. Individual PvP skill is now totally irrelevant to control of 0.0. If Tri wants to be "the next big thing" in EvE they need to have more than good PvPers/fleet commanders, they need to have folks who are experts at the logisticl enterprise behind taking and holding large sections of 0.0 space. While I could do without the obnoxious behavior, ultimately what the Goons have done is a great thing for the health of this game. They have shown that new players can come in and make a real impact on the game, without having eleventy-billion skillpoints.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 13:30:00 - [126] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 13:31:13 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Well... As a total outsider who just eagerly follows the 0.0 war descriptions here is my (probably worthless) 2 cents. The Goons will be the dominate superpower in EvE for the forseeable future, until the next great logistical juggernaut takes its place. For all the bashing of the Goons, we have learned quite a bit about EvE from their war with BoB. 1. High skillpoints and K/D ratios, while fun for small gang PvP, have little impact on territorial control (which is the EvE endgame). The traditional metrics that have been used to define "greatness" in this game are now almost entirely obsolete. 2. The ability to bring other alliance and factions into your cause is essential. 3. Logistics, logistics, logistics. Logistics, more than any other factor, determines the success of a large alliance in EvE. I'm not just talking about the micro logistics like stront timing and moving large forces, but also Macro logistics like maintaing proper supply and coordinating multi-front attacks with a variety of parties. Individual PvP skill is now totally irrelevant to control of 0.0. If Tri wants to be "the next big thing" in EvE they need to have more than good PvPers/fleet commanders, they need to have folks who are experts at the logisticl enterprise behind taking and holding large sections of 0.0 space. While I could do without the obnoxious behavior, ultimately what the Goons have done is a great thing for the health of this game. They have shown that new players can come in and make a real impact on the game, without having eleventy-billion skillpoints. For those who cannot be bothered to read all of that he said that those with the overwhelming numbers will win in a terratorial war and that is RAGOON. Well duh. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Flow Befort GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.02.06 13:32:00 - [127] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 13:31:13 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Well... As a total outsider who just eagerly follows the 0.0 war descriptions here is my (probably worthless) 2 cents. The Goons will be the dominate superpower in EvE for the forseeable future, until the next great logistical juggernaut takes its place. For all the bashing of the Goons, we have learned quite a bit about EvE from their war with BoB. 1. High skillpoints and K/D ratios, while fun for small gang PvP, have little impact on territorial control (which is the EvE endgame). The traditional metrics that have been used to define "greatness" in this game are now almost entirely obsolete. 2. The ability to bring other alliance and factions into your cause is essential. 3. Logistics, logistics, logistics. Logistics, more than any other factor, determines the success of a large alliance in EvE. I'm not just talking about the micro logistics like stront timing and moving large forces, but also Macro logistics like maintaing proper supply and coordinating multi-front attacks with a variety of parties. Individual PvP skill is now totally irrelevant to control of 0.0. If Tri wants to be "the next big thing" in EvE they need to have more than good PvPers/fleet commanders, they need to have folks who are experts at the logisticl enterprise behind taking and holding large sections of 0.0 space. While I could do without the obnoxious behavior, ultimately what the Goons have done is a great thing for the health of this game. They have shown that new players can come in and make a real impact on the game, without having eleventy-billion skillpoints. For those who cannot be bothered to read all of that he said that those with the overwhelming numbers will win in a terratorial war and that is RAGOON. Well duh. o/ \o
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 14:19:00 - [128] Originally by: HEY LISTEN For those who cannot be bothered to read all of that he said that those with the overwhelming numbers will win in a terratorial war and that is RAGOON. Well duh. No, what I am saying is the group with superior logistical management will win territorial wars, and that this skill is vastly different from pvp/fleet management. Fleet management wins battles. Logistics management wins territory.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 14:28:00 - [129] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:29:54 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:29:23 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN For those who cannot be bothered to read all of that he said that those with the overwhelming numbers will win in a terratorial war and that is RAGOON. Well duh. No, what I am saying is the group with superior logistical management will win territorial wars, and that this skill is vastly different from pvp/fleet management. Fleet management wins battles. Logistics management wins territory. In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time, even if they suck at both logistics and fleet managment. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 14:29:00 - [130] Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 14:29:41 Originally by: HEY LISTEN In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. Tell that to ASCN or D2.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 14:31:00 - [131] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:34:27 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:31:44 Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 14:29:41 Originally by: HEY LISTEN In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. Tell that to ASCN or D2. Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Emi Raaf Fruit Fellatio	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:01:00 - [132] Quote: They have really good fc's. Like xxangelxx? Wait she's just there because she has boobs right?
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:22:00 - [133] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. Your self delusion is magnificent to behold. ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:38:00 - [134] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 15:44:02 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. Your self delusion is magnificent to behold. ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. My bad i must have included all the so called pets GOONS claim and continue to post about that BOB had fight along side them (and won their wars for them alegedly) in my calculations. Strange how you only include those pesky little pet/allies in your posts when it suits you is it not?. Although i seem to remember bob alone having around 2-3k membership at the time and im sure ascn did not have 8-12k but hey im sure your "facts" as per usual will fit in with your little obsession. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:39:00 - [135] Let's go places
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:44:00 - [136] Originally by: HEY LISTEN My bad i must have included all the so called pets goons claim and continue to post about that bob had fight along side them (and win their wars for them alegedly) in my calculations. Although i seem to remember bob having around 2-3k membership at the time and im sure ascn did not have 8-12k but hey im sure your "facts" as per usual will fit in with your little obsession. Your numbers are way off but hey don't let that interfere with you changing the goalposts on this conversation again. How much of a margin is your hopeless case scenario where a large group can't possibly be defeated by a smaller one. As for your little bad, if we're including pets and allies then your numbers aren't even overwhelming in the current situation or does it change matters when you defeat people. I mean if you look at LV now they only have a handful of people in their corp and by your logic RA blobbed them because they have thousands and yet LV managed to get them down to a station.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:10:00 - [137] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 16:11:26 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN My bad i must have included all the so called pets goons claim and continue to post about that bob had fight along side them (and win their wars for them alegedly) in my calculations. Although i seem to remember bob having around 2-3k membership at the time and im sure ascn did not have 8-12k but hey im sure your "facts" as per usual will fit in with your little obsession. Your numbers are way off but hey don't let that interfere with you changing the goalposts on this conversation again. How much of a margin is your hopeless case scenario where a large group can't possibly be defeated by a smaller one. Please keep claiming that "ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1" and that its my figures that are off and that im "self delusional" its the best giggle ive had in ages. How about you run along and get some actual facts and figures to back up such stupid claims before you actualy post them or even better stick to your normal one line posts like, stop posting or bob alt and the like because actual factual and detailed debates are obviously beyond you without resorting to juvinille insults. Theres plenty of threads about the bob ascn war and the d2 war for that matter im sure one of them can provide you with the figures you will need, that is if you can either be bothered to check them as they will make you look even more foolish. Im sure you will try to include or exclude various pets/allies so your figures may look near the mark im looking forwards to seeing it. Although you will proly just post what you think is a cutting remark and bow out you normaly do. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:19:00 - [138] As I recall it, when the ASCN-BoB war started, the numbers were close to 4 to 1, I recall something like 5k ASCN and 1200-1300 BoB. However, in the first months when the fighting was still in TPAR and ASCN was not losing ground at all, BoB quickly bulked up to somewhere around 1600 people. I think that by the time Paragon Soul started to be taken the numbers were about 3-1 in terms of characters. Now I can't give any definite information on actual players, but ASCN was extremely alt-heavy, including quite a few people having 5-10 accounts by themselves. ASCN certainly never outnumbered BoB 3-1 in terms of fleetsize, maybe 2-1 at best in major operations in the first weeks (when the nodes went down a lot). Max people I saw in alliance chat back then was about 650, but that also included lots of alts (dual/tripleboxing etc).
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:22:00 - [139] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 16:11:26 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN My bad i must have included all the so called pets goons claim and continue to post about that bob had fight along side them (and win their wars for them alegedly) in my calculations. Although i seem to remember bob having around 2-3k membership at the time and im sure ascn did not have 8-12k but hey im sure your "facts" as per usual will fit in with your little obsession. Your numbers are way off but hey don't let that interfere with you changing the goalposts on this conversation again. How much of a margin is your hopeless case scenario where a large group can't possibly be defeated by a smaller one. Please keep claiming that "ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1" and that its my figures that are off and that im "self delusional" its the best giggle ive had in ages. How about you run along and get some actual facts and figures to back up such stupid claims before you actualy post them or even better stick to your normal one line posts like, stop posting or bob alt and the like because actual factual and detailed debates are obviously beyond you without resorting to juvinille insults. Theres plenty of threads about the bob ascn war and the d2 war for that matter im sure one of them can provide you with the figures you will need, that is if you can either be bothered to check them as they will make you look even more foolish. Im sure you will try to include or exclude various pets/allies so your figures may look near the mark im looking forwards to seeing it. Although you will proly just post what you think is a cutting remark and bow out you normaly do. ASCN where the biggest alliance in the game before the BoB war numbering over 4000, some people I've talked to have mentioned figures of up to 5500. BoB where trim around 1k maybe at most 2k but I personally don't know if they where that big by then and they really only started hitting 2k members after the fall of LV. I've had a quick look at Serenity Steeles website but unfortunately the history for corp membership doesn't go back further than ninety days. That's about as much effort as I'm willing to bother with trying to school a little troll alt soz.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:35:00 - [140] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 16:39:50 Originally by: Nekumi ASCN where the biggest alliance in the game before the BoB war numbering over 4000, some people I've talked to have mentioned figures of up to 5500. BoB where trim around 1k maybe at most 2k but I personally don't know if they where that big by then and they really only started hitting 2k members after the fall of LV. I've had a quick look at Serenity Steeles website but unfortunately the history for corp membership doesn't go back further than ninety days. That's about as much effort as I'm willing to bother with trying to school a little troll alt soz. So 4000-5500 hey lets call it 6000 just for you against bob plus pets (i would not want to not include the pets as it would upset all the other members of your alliance who tell me over and over bob did nothing alone). Id say come to 2.5 to 3k max maybe more depending on what the argument is about and what goon you are arguing with. IE; More pets if its about how bob won their wars and less if its about summat like this but 2.5k or even 2k will do for now. So by my math 2.5k or 2k x 4 = 10,000 or 8000 but ascn only had 6000 although most say a lot nearer to 4000 and a lot of alts (see how generous i am with 6k just for you) i guess you need to go back to goonie propoganda school and learn not to post claims about things you know nothing about. PS; Nice alt insult at the end there i suggest you stick to just them in future its your area trust me. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Dangerously Cheesey GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:38:00 - [141] Once I hear the jump command, I just roll my face on the keyboard and hope our numbers win the battle for us.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:42:00 - [142] Originally by: HEY LISTEN So 4000-5500 hey lets call it 6000 just for you against bob plus pets (i would not want to not include the pets as it would upset all the other members of your alliance who tell me over and over bob did nothing alone). Id say come to 2.5 to 3k max maybe more depending on what the argument is about and what goon you are arguing with. IE; More pets if its about how bob won their wars and less if its about summat like this but 2.5k or even 2k will do for now. So by my math 2.5k or 2k x 4 = 10,000 or 8000 but ascn only had 6000 (see how generous i am with 6k just for you) i guess you need to go back to goonie propoganda school and learn not to post claims about thing you know nothing about. PS; Nice alt insult at the end there i suggest you stick to just them in future. You seem to be having problems here. You jump up to 2-3k including bob allies and pets for some reason, and funnily enough you pull the numbers out of your arse. Oh wait it's to mitigate the fact that your are completely wrong and ASCN did in fact outnumber BoB by about 4 to 1. You're the one that stated a smaller entity can't defeat a bigger one and then proceed to ignore situations where this has already happened. Your supposition is built on **** and your logic is full of failure but I forgive you, you are only an alt after all.
Commander Solo Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:44:00 - [143] poasting in a Tri alt thread.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:45:00 - [144] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 16:39:50 Originally by: Nekumi ASCN where the biggest alliance in the game before the BoB war numbering over 4000, some people I've talked to have mentioned figures of up to 5500. BoB where trim around 1k maybe at most 2k but I personally don't know if they where that big by then and they really only started hitting 2k members after the fall of LV. I've had a quick look at Serenity Steeles website but unfortunately the history for corp membership doesn't go back further than ninety days. That's about as much effort as I'm willing to bother with trying to school a little troll alt soz. So 4000-5500 hey lets call it 6000 just for you against bob plus pets (i would not want to not include the pets as it would upset all the other members of your alliance who tell me over and over bob did nothing alone). Id say come to 2.5 to 3k max maybe more depending on what the argument is about and what goon you are arguing with. IE; More pets if its about how bob won their wars and less if its about summat like this but 2.5k or even 2k will do for now. So by my math 2.5k or 2k x 4 = 10,000 or 8000 but ascn only had 6000 although most say a lot nearer to 4000 and a lot of alts (see how generous i am with 6k just for you) i guess you need to go back to goonie propoganda school and learn not to post claims about things you know nothing about. PS; Nice alt insult at the end there i suggest you stick to just them in future its your area trust me. Do you really suffer from such severe cognitive dissonance or are you, as we have suspected all along, just a goon alt reverse trolling? Because woah man... you talk alot of stupid.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:02:00 - [145] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:05:55 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:04:25 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN So 4000-5500 hey lets call it 6000 just for you against bob plus pets (i would not want to not include the pets as it would upset all the other members of your alliance who tell me over and over bob did nothing alone). Id say come to 2.5 to 3k max maybe more depending on what the argument is about and what goon you are arguing with. IE; More pets if its about how bob won their wars and less if its about summat like this but 2.5k or even 2k will do for now. So by my math 2.5k or 2k x 4 = 10,000 or 8000 but ascn only had 6000 (see how generous i am with 6k just for you) i guess you need to go back to goonie propoganda school and learn not to post claims about thing you know nothing about. PS; Nice alt insult at the end there i suggest you stick to just them in future. You seem to be having problems here. You jump up to 2-3k including bob allies and pets for some reason, and funnily enough you pull the numbers out of your arse. Oh wait it's to mitigate the fact that your are completely wrong and ASCN did in fact outnumber BoB by about 4 to 1. You're the one that stated a smaller entity can't defeat a bigger one and then proceed to ignore situations where this has already happened. Your supposition is built on ** and your logic is full of failure but I forgive you, you are only an alt after all. My inital point was that overwhelming numbers will always win against a lesser numbered foe and you made a claim that because ascn had over 4 x membership of bob that i was wrong and bob winning the war proved that numbers did not matter. I then claimed that ascn only had slightly more numbers so the term overwhelming did not apply. Here are the actual factual numbers from the time: In actual fact it was 1600 bob plus pets (il let you decide how many pets to include but i suggest you remember it for future referance cos i will). Against a max of 5000 ascn but if you read the threads of the time the figures do not match because a lot of ascn did not participate in the fights. But even if it was just 1600 bob vs 5000 ascn thats still with your claim of 4-1 then ascn should have been at least 6400 strong and that is if you do not include bobs pets in the equation. Your out by 1400 ppl (the size of a very large alliance at that time). Now i have found a link from all the way back then that i got these figures and facts from do you?.** PS; i did not include MC in the figures either. PPS: id say its your figures that come out of your arse but then your a goon so ppl kinda expect it. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:21:00 - [146] Originally by: HEY LISTEN My inital point was that overwhelming numbers will always win against a lesser numbered foe and you made a claim that because ascn had over 4 x membership of bob that i was wrong and bob winning the war proved that numbers did not matter. I then claimed that ascn only had slightly more numbers so the term overwhelming did not apply. Here are the actual factual numbers from the time: In actual fact it was 1600 bob plus pets (il let you decide how many pets to include but i suggest you remember it for future referance cos i will). Against a max of 5000 ascn but if you read the threads of the time the figures do not match because a lot of ascn did not participate in the fights. But even if it was just 1600 bob vs 5000 ascn thats still with your claim of " dwarfed at least 4-1" then ascn should have been "at least" 6400 strong and that is if you do not include bobs pets in the equation. Your out by 1400 ppl (the size of a very large alliance at that time). Now i have found a link from all the way back then that i got these figures and facts from do you?. PS; i did not include MC in the figures either. PPS: id say its your figures that come out of your arse but then your a goon so ppl kinda expect it, but i do not forgive you because even a ****** would have learned by now. I figure seeing as how you have ignored my first example and created a numbers war neither you nor I care to verify to any sort of scientific certainty I'll just list a few alliances and corps who consistently fight outnumbered and have prevailed. Mercenary Coalition (most Merc corps actually but these more than others), Outbreak, Beagle Corp, Burn Eden, old school Triumvirate, Pandemic Legion, Red Alliance, Band of Brothers, TCF. Your argument and your points are feeble and I'm pretty sure I'm done with you now.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:36:00 - [147] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:44:06 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN My inital point was that overwhelming numbers will always win against a lesser numbered foe and you made a claim that because ascn had over 4 x membership of bob that i was wrong and bob winning the war proved that numbers did not matter. I then claimed that ascn only had slightly more numbers so the term overwhelming did not apply. Here are the actual factual numbers from the time: In actual fact it was 1600 bob plus pets (il let you decide how many pets to include but i suggest you remember it for future referance cos i will). Against a max of 5000 ascn but if you read the threads of the time the figures do not match because a lot of ascn did not participate in the fights. But even if it was just 1600 bob vs 5000 ascn thats still with your claim of " dwarfed at least 4-1" then ascn should have been "at least" 6400 strong and that is if you do not include bobs pets in the equation. Your out by 1400 ppl (the size of a very large alliance at that time). Now i have found a link from all the way back then that i got these figures and facts from do you?. PS; i did not include MC in the figures either. PPS: id say its your figures that come out of your arse but then your a goon so ppl kinda expect it, but i do not forgive you because even a **** would have learned by now. I figure seeing as how you have ignored my first example and created a numbers war neither you nor I care to verify to any sort of scientific certainty I'll just list a few alliances and corps who consistently fight outnumbered and have prevailed. Mercenary Coalition (most Merc corps actually but these more than others), Outbreak, Beagle Corp, Burn Eden, old school Triumvirate, Pandemic Legion, Red Alliance, Band of Brothers, TCF. Your argument and your points are feeble and I'm pretty sure I'm done with you now. Your the one ignoring things, like the fact i said in a terratorial war for starters, and as far as my figures are concerned they come from a post from back then as i said in my previous post, if you had bothered to read it instead of trying to bail out you would have seen it. Il link where i got my facts from here for you; You wont like it cos it also has ascn ppl stating that a lot of them are not turning up to fight. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 5000 vs 1600 without pets or mc included in the figures. 1600 x 4 = 6400 not 5000, go away and take youre inefectual and insulting trolling somwhere else. As for as any of those ppl you listed above id love for you to show me a link where they took space while outnumbered over 4-1 but you cannot because your a fool with no fact and only an idea how those alliances operate. SIG BELOW: Originally by:** Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:46:00 - [148] Originally by: HEY LISTEN your a fool Resorting to personal attacks when you can't back up the misinformation you post is something I thought was beneath even you. Strangely I am not even a little surprised. Let me sum up your points for people too lazy to wade through the effluent that is your posts. "Arbitrary number I pulled out of my ass" to 1 is the only thing that allows any corporation in Eve to hold territory. This has never been disproven by any alliance or corporation ever in the history of eve.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:52:00 - [149] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:55:51 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:54:58 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN Your the one ignoring things, like the fact i said in a terratorial war for starters, and as far as my figures are concerned they come from a post from back then as i said in my previous post, if you had bothered to read it instead of trying to bail out you would have seen it. Il link where i got my facts from here for you; You wont like it cos it also has ascn ppl stating that a lot of them are not turning up to fight. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 5000 vs 1600 without pets or mc included in the figures. 1600 x 4 = 6400 not 5000, go away and take youre inefectual and insulting trolling somwhere else. As for as any of those ppl you listed above id love for you to show me a link where they took space while outnumbered over 4-1 but you cannot because your a fool with no facts and no idea on how those alliances operate Resorting to personal attacks when you can't back up the misinformation you post is something I thought was beneath even you. I re-added all the FACTS that you cut out you should realy read the link instead of changing the subject. I posted no misinformation only facts i got from links on this forum your the one making stupid claims and quoting non existant and dreamed up figures. Do you like my new sig btw. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:57:00 - [150] Originally by: HEY LISTEN I re-added all the FACTS that you cut out you should real read the link instead of changing the subject. So your main argument now is that it was 3 to 1 and not 4 to 1 like I admittedly guessed in my first post. Like I said in my second and third posts, numbers games don't interest me especially when you quote second hand information as FACT. My prior summation is what you are failing at trying to prove but hey, quote some more, call me some more names and fight against the inevitability of your own inconsistencies. Maybe eventually you'll be able to break through that barrier you've thrown up around yourself and actually see the terrible terrible quality of the words you tap out in ineffectual frustration.
Zorlag Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:01:00 - [151] HEY LISTEN is dumb as a brick but so are the people responding to him
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:10:00 - [152] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:11:59 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN I re-added all the FACTS that you cut out you should real read the link instead of changing the subject. So your main argument now is that it was 3 to 1 and not 4 to 1 like I admittedly guessed in my first post. Like I said in my second and third posts, numbers games don't interest me especially when you quote second hand information as FACT. My prior summation is what you are failing at trying to prove but hey, quote some more, call me some more names and fight against the inevitability of your own inconsistencies. Maybe eventually you'll be able to break through that barrier you've thrown up around yourself and actually see the terrible terrible quality of the words you tap out in ineffectual frustration. You make a claim that ascn had "at least 4-1 and it turns out that it was actualy considerably less than 3-1 if you include MC and all the bob pets not only that but on the link thread i showed you have actual ASCN members pointing out that they have poor attendance and you say im the one with second hand info?. The point i was making and the one you have totaly failed to disprove with the figures you claimed to know (and are now in my sig) is that overwhelming numbers = win as far as terratory wars in eve at the moment is concerned. Nothing you have claimed or posted has even dented that because its the truth, the best you could do is claim the 4-1 bob ascn odds as an example but with no actual research done on the true figures and that now have been proven to have absolutly no basis in truth from the mouths of actual ascn members. So your either a liar or a fool and i suggest that unless you have links to posts that actualy prove or counter my claims that you stop posting cos you are looking like a total idiot with your made up figures. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:11:00 - [153] Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 18:11:40 Originally by: HEY LISTEN You make a claim that ascn had "at least 4-1 and it turns out that it was actualy considerably less than 3-1 if you include MC and all the bob pets not only that but on the link thread i showed you have actual ASCN members pointing out that they have poor attendance and you say im the one with second hand info?. The point i was making and the one you have totaly failed to disprove with the figures you claimed to know (and are now in my sig) is that overwhelming numbers = win as far as terratory wars in eve at the moment is concerned. Nothing you have claimed or posted has even dented that because its the truth, the best you could do is claim the 4-1 bob ascn odds that have absolutly no basis in truth. So your either a liar or a fool and i suggest that unless you have links to posts that actualy prove or counter my claims that you stop posting cos you are looking like a total fool with your made up figures. You know, if you keep saying something over and over again it might work on children but unfortunately I'm not a child. Go back and read my posts this time and then get back to me. Actually no, don't bother.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:18:00 - [154] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:20:20 Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 18:11:40 Originally by: HEY LISTEN You make a claim that ascn had "at least 4-1 and it turns out that it was actualy considerably less than 3-1 if you include MC and all the bob pets not only that but on the link thread i showed you have actual ASCN members pointing out that they have poor attendance and you say im the one with second hand info?. The point i was making and the one you have totaly failed to disprove with the figures you claimed to know (and are now in my sig) is that overwhelming numbers = win as far as terratory wars in eve at the moment is concerned. Nothing you have claimed or posted has even dented that because its the truth, the best you could do is claim the 4-1 bob ascn odds that have absolutly no basis in truth. So your either a liar or a fool and i suggest that unless you have links to posts that actualy prove or counter my claims that you stop posting cos you are looking like a total fool with your made up figures. You know, if you keep saying something over and over again it might work. Put up or stfu pal heres my link to my figures wheres yours?. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 Not more empty words, not comments of look back at my posts in the vain hope that ppl will not think your a total moron, proof of 4-1 odds and that overwhelming odds are NOT the deciding factor in terratorial wars in eve atm or stfu. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Hrin Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:22:00 - [155] I hit reply because I do indeed want to know more.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:23:00 - [156] Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 18:22:53 Originally by: HEY LISTEN Put up or stfu pal heres my link to my figures wheres yours?. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 Not more empty words, not comments of look back at my posts in the vain hope that ppl will not think your a total moron, proof of 4-1 odds and that overwhelming odds are NOT the deciding factor in terratorial wars in eve atm or stfu. When you calm down, click this link and you might achieve some enlightment. Hope it helps. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=lastposts&cid=742453969
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:24:00 - [157] Also your attempt at evidence of something not under dispute would be more appropriate if it was this. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6#157
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:47:00 - [158] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:50:04 My original post and your standard unsubstantiated trolly one liner. Originally by: HEY LISTEN In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. Originally by: Nekumi Tell that to ASCN or D2. My counter claim backed up by quotes/forum links taken from ascn members at the time and your claim of knowing differing numerical facts: Originally by: HEY LISTEN Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. Originally by: Nekumi Your self delusion is magnificent to behold. ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. So now you know the exact figures (linkage to ascn members confirming my facts and quoting that they had crappy attendance http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 ) and they should realy include MC and the rest of bob pets who is the "self deluded" one?. PS: I think its gr8 that you seem to be arguing that bob fought and won harder wars alone and more outnumbered than they actualy realy did lol your the worst goon troll ever. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:50:00 - [159] Originally by: HEY LISTEN blurf de furf de durf Your failure at comprehension is beyond my powers to remedy. Sorry, I really can't help you now if you haven't gotten it yet.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:55:00 - [160] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:56:31 Originally by: Nekumi Your failure at comprehension is beyond my powers to remedy. Sorry, I really can't help you now if you haven't gotten it yet. I actualy post your own comments and the exact way the conversation went and you still try to claim that it is not the truth. Is making claims that i do not understand summat the only thing you can think of to do in the hopes to not look like a total fool. You fail on so many levels is beyond a joke or would you like to point out with the actual copy pasted details as i did what was missed from our little discussion. Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidance one liner perhaps even a snip showing only a insult hey? SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:57:00 - [161] Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 18:57:32 Originally by: HEY LISTEN I actualy post you own comment and the exact way the conversation went and you still try to claim that it is not the truth. Is making claims that i do not understand summat the only thing you can think of to do in the hopes to not look like a total fool. You fail on so many levels is beyond a joke or would you like to point out with the actual copy pasted details as i did what was missed from our little discussion. Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidace one liner I'm terribly sorry if English is not your first language but your failure at comprehension just beggars belief. You seem to be caught up in some internal argument of your own creation but at least you seem happy with the result and I would not begrudge anyone some happiness.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:02:00 - [162] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 19:06:21 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 19:02:56 Originally by: HEY LISTEN I actualy post you own comment and the exact way the conversation went and you still try to claim that it is not the truth. Is making claims that i do not understand summat the only thing you can think of to do in the hopes to not look like a total fool. You fail on so many levels is beyond a joke or would you like to point out with the actual copy pasted details as i did what was missed from our little discussion. Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidace one liner Originally by: Nekumi I'm terribly sorry if English is not your first language but your failure at comprehension just beggars belief. You seem to be caught up in some internal argument of your own creation but at least you seem happy with the result and I would not begrudge anyone some happiness. Originally by: HEY LISTEN "Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidace one liner" And the prediction comes true FTW!!!!!!!. Avoiding the question/challenge to prove your claims and a insult all in one tidy little package. Way too low brow tbqfh but like you say im sure some children on here thiunk your clever or at least they will when they learn to read. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:05:00 - [163] Originally by: HEY LISTEN And the prediction comes true FTW!!!!!!!. Congratulations, if only there was some way I could have known you would respond the way you did too. If only this argument you seem to have caught up in wasn't resolved about ten posts ago. Oh my whatever shall I do. You truly win at internets and I am humbled and shamed at once. You can put this piece of fiction in your sig as well if you it makes you feel better. Walter Mitty got nothing on you.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:08:00 - [164] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN And the prediction comes true FTW!!!!!!!. Congratulations, if only there was some way I could have known you would respond the way you did too. If only this argument you seem to have caught up in wasn't resolved about ten posts ago. Oh my whatever shall I do. You truly win at internets and I am humbled and shamed at once. You can put this piece of fiction in your sig as well if you it makes you feel better. Walter Mitty got nothing on you. I can honestly say will only update my sig if you make another stupid and uneducated statment. So maybe a hour or so HEY LISTEN is my hero not my alt.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:09:00 - [165] Originally by: Murina Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN And the prediction comes true FTW!!!!!!!. Congratulations, if only there was some way I could have known you would respond the way you did too. If only this argument you seem to have caught up in wasn't resolved about ten posts ago. Oh my whatever shall I do. You truly win at internets and I am humbled and shamed at once. You can put this piece of fiction in your sig as well if you it makes you feel better. Walter Mitty got nothing on you. I can honestly say will only update my sig if you make another stupid and uneducated statment. So maybe a hour or so hahahaha
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:20:00 - [166] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 19:22:58 Originally by: Nekumi Congratulations, if only there was some way I could have known you would respond the way you did too. If only this argument you seem to have caught up in wasn't resolved about ten posts ago. Oh my whatever shall I do. You truly win at internets and I am humbled and shamed at once. You can put this piece of fiction in your sig as well if you it makes you feel better. Walter Mitty got nothing on you. Originally by: Murina I can honestly say will only update my sig if you make another stupid and uneducated statment. So maybe a hour or so I was gonna refrain from this but i have to say it. KABLAMMO!!!! SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:47:00 - [167] Originally by: HEY LISTEN ~sweatdrop~ I'm sure nobody realised.
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:53:00 - [168] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN ~sweatdrop~ I'm sure nobody realised. ~Quotes self. KABLAMMO
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:55:00 - [169] Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 19:56:30 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN ~sweatdrop~ I'm sure nobody realised. ~Quotes self. KABLAMMO Close but no cigar. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:02:00 - [170] Originally by: Murina Close but no cigar. Yeah it's not really the same. I should've posted with an alt and then quoted with that.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:04:00 - [171] Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 20:05:02 Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 20:04:45 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Murina Close but no cigar. Yeah it's not really the same. I should've posted with an alt and then quoted with that. mittens is better at this than you are by far but hey its the first chance you have had for a real derail so il go with it for a while if you like. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
ElweSingollo Starlancers Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:33:00 - [172] Edited by: ElweSingollo on 06/02/2008 20:35:33 Edited by: ElweSingollo on 06/02/2008 20:34:41 Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 20:06:03 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Murina Close but no cigar. Yeah it's not really the same. I should've posted with an alt and then quoted with that. mittens is better at this than you are by far but hey its the first chance you have had for a real derail so il go with it for a while if you like. Any particular reason you choose to post as hey listen instead of this character? never been able to understand peoples fascination with posting with alts -_-. Oh and can we get back on fecking topic thought this was about Tri not ASCN feels like a bloody history lesson (small history lesson ASCN had Axe and MWA (I think it was MWA some smaller alliance anyway there to long ago lol) with them) CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature *In Before I Get M* Again*
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:49:00 - [173] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 20:51:33 Originally by: ElweSingollo Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 20:06:03 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Murina Close but no cigar. Yeah it's not really the same. I should've posted with an alt and then quoted with that. mittens is better at this than you are by far but hey its the first chance you have had for a real derail so il go with it for a while if you like. Any particular reason you choose to post as hey listen instead of this character? never been able to understand peoples fascination with posting with alts -_- I dunno about anybody else but i post with a alt for several reasons It annoys goons and others that its not my main plus my personal views and observations may be as honest and factual as i can make them but that does not mean that they are very PC or in line with the corp/alliance i may be with at any particular time. So far ive been called a bob alt, goon alt, razor/mm alt, ex-lv/v alt, A alt alt (lol i loved that one) and several other ideas that ppl come up with depending on who i am replying too. Goons think im a bob ex-lv alt bob thought i was a goon alt others think im who ever they are fighting alt basicaly. Mostly its goons although that is because of how much they tend to plaster over the forums more than any particular reason although in fact 2 of the 3 forum warnings/bans i have had are from irritating bob posters and or swearing at them ( the last one was from tellin dafuzz to "bow me" i think). SIG BELOW: Originally by:* Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Kenion THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:57:00 - [174] This thread is now only trolling. ZOMG! Incoming lock! ---------------------------------------------
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:58:00 - [175] Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 19:37:14 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN And the prediction comes true FTW!!!!!!!. Congratulations, if only there was some way I could have known you would respond the way you did too. If only this argument you seem to have caught up in wasn't resolved about ten posts ago. Oh my whatever shall I do. You truly win at internets and I am humbled and shamed at once. You can put this piece of fiction in your sig as well if you it makes you feel better. Walter Mitty got nothing on you. I can honestly say will only ever update my sig if you make another stupid and uneducated statment. So maybe a hour or so roflcopter the "default character" setting is awesome let me tell you i poast with an alt because i am a coward and also fat
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:40:00 - [176] Originally by: HEY LISTEN I dunno about anybody else but i post with a alt for several reasons It annoys goons and others that its not my main plus my personal views and observations may be as honest and factual as i can make them but that does not mean that they are very PC or in line with the corp/alliance i may be with at any particular time. I'm glad that my post on this subject, in some small way, contributed to the shocking exposure of HEY LISTEN's true character. Which begs the question, why didn't you just post with your main? I may talk idiocy, but I don't delude myself into thinking I am important enough for anyone to care...
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:53:00 - [177] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 21:54:21 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 21:53:30 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN I dunno about anybody else but i post with a alt for several reasons It annoys goons and others that its not my main plus my personal views and observations may be as honest and factual as i can make them but that does not mean that they are very PC or in line with the corp/alliance i may be with at any particular time. So far ive been called a bob alt, goon alt, razor/mm alt, ex-lv/v alt, A alt alt (lol i loved that one) and several other ideas that ppl come up with depending on who i am replying too. Goons think im a bob ex-lv alt bob thought i was a goon alt others think im who ever they are fighting alt basicaly. Mostly its goons i reply too although that is because of how much they tend to plaster over the forums more than any other particular reason. Although in fact 2 of the 3 forum warnings/bans i have had are from irritating bob posters and or swearing at them ( the last one was from tellin dafuzz to "bow me" i think). I'm glad that my post on this subject, in some small way, contributed to the shocking exposure of HEY LISTEN's true character. Which begs the question, why didn't you just post with your main? I may talk idiocy, but I don't delude myself into thinking I am important enough for anyone to care... My mains (one of them anyway) name has been posted on this forum plenty of times id hardly call this a revalation, mittens has done it on several occasions. Plus you just copy pasted my reply above to sombody who asked why i post with a alt and then the very next sentance ask the same question???. Your right you do talk idiocy and if you do not think anybody cares why post or reply at all. Your very odd. SIG BELOW: Originally by:* Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:12:00 - [178] Originally by: HEY LISTEN [ Btw who do you consider "sombody" in this virtual game of internet spaceships id be very interested to know cos you obviously would consider their opinions very important. Yeah that was mean so I edited it (before your post)... Let me rephrase..."your main is a nobody," as in no one who could reasoanbly considered to have diplomatic/other repercussions for mouthing off on CAOD.
Vahl Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:16:00 - [179] Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting? So basically he is full of ** entirely. _________________________________________________________ ==REDSWARM FEDERATION== ...because we hate your fking guts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:25:00 - [180] Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Btw who do you consider "sombody" in this virtual game of internet spaceships id be very interested to know cos you obviously would consider their opinions very important. Yeah that was mean so I edited it (before your post)... Let me rephrase..."your main is a nobody," as in no one who could reasoanbly considered to have diplomatic/other repercussions for mouthing off on CAOD. What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?. The cyno alt you and others think of as my main is a member of a alliance that not long ago was in delve shooting at bob and so i decided to post with a alt to avoid any political repercussions. Now you may wish to think of me my corp or my alliance as nobodys and that is your choice but your opinion in no way changes the fact why i chose to post with an alt nor can you predict what repercussions would have happened had i chose to post with my cyno alt or even one of my actual mains. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:27:00 - [181] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:27:28 Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting? So basically he is full of ** entirely. So you say that TI were not in delve shooting at bob not so long ago?. I guess its you who are full of hey pal but then im used to morons from goons not checking simple facts. SIG BELOW: Originally by:** Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:28:00 - [182] Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 06/02/2008 22:28:39 Originally by: HEY LISTEN What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?. Well, because... Hmmm..... How can I put this delicately. You are kind of a loon.
Ju Ming Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:29:00 - [183] Hey there read the start of the thread and although I respect Tri Fleets and Gangs for what they can bring its not something that I am scared of. I think the that the main mistake you have made is judging an Alliance by the KB stats, that gives you some insight but its really not enough. That would be like reading Baseball game stats and thinking you fully understood what happened. Agreed Tri Nano gangs are something that should not be taken lightly but they can be killed. Tri Fleets can be killed they tend to have the advantage of T2 support ships though that can give them an edge over fleets with younger players still in T1. But like I said they are not something you need to fear because although they will enagage you knowing they could lose a ship they dont go all out thats sort of reserved for some other Alliances. Alliances that pull out all the stops and will come at you with a vengance are the ones you need to be concerned about. There are a few out there like this RA & AAA being two that come closest to mind. But as for the future. well EVE is still a some what large Universe and I don't see a single Alliance dominating. Sig locked, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please email [email protected] ~Saint
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:30:00 - [184] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:31:35 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 06/02/2008 22:28:39 Originally by: HEY LISTEN Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Btw who do you consider "sombody" in this virtual game of internet spaceships id be very interested to know cos you obviously would consider their opinions very important. Yeah that was mean so I edited it (before your post)... Let me rephrase..."your main is a nobody," as in no one who could reasoanbly considered to have diplomatic/other repercussions for mouthing off on CAOD. What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?. The cyno alt you and others think of as my main is a member of a alliance that not long ago was in delve shooting at bob and so i decided to post with a alt to avoid any political repercussions. Now you may wish to think of me my corp or my alliance as nobodys and that is your choice but your opinion in no way changes the fact why i chose to post with an alt nor can you predict what repercussions would have happened had i chose to post with my cyno alt or even one of my actual mains. Well, because... Hmmm..... How can I put this delicately. You are kind of a loon. Better than a arrogant fool who decides on ppl importance without knowing a single thing about them. Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:36:00 - [185] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading. Listen, obviously I have hurt your feelings, and I am sorry. You are very important, you are a unique and special snowflake.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:40:00 - [186] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:41:49 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:40:36 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading. Listen, obviously I have hurt your feelings, and I am sorry. You are very important, you are a unique and special snowflake. Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish and sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Come on it does not have to be a long list just the top 5 important ppl in our little internet space ship game. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Amiable Quinn Minmatar Bat Country	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:43:00 - [187] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love...
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:46:00 - [188] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:46:30 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love... Still waiting for the uber important player list and reading more self depreciating posts that are done in a vain hope for an lees embarressing out of the hole he dug himself. Ok how about the top 3 important ppl in the eve universe?. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
Vahl Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 00:11:00 - [189] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Still waiting for you to stop posting with an alt since we all know who you are. _________________________________________________________ ==REDSWARM FEDERATION== ...because we hate your f**king guts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.07 00:16:00 - [190] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 00:23:04 Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:27:28 Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting? So basically he is full of ** entirely. So you say that TI were not in delve shooting at bob not so long ago?. I guess its you who are full of ** hey pal but then im used to morons from goons not checking simple facts. See above for my thoughts on what you want or think lol you cannot even get your simple facts right. And if i posted with my cyno alt or my main it would'nt get under your skin and give you summat to b*tch about.
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:34:00 - [191] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:58:50 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love... Still waiting for the uber important player list and reading more sarcastic self depreciating posts that are done in a vain hope for an lees embarressing way out of the hole he dug himself. Ok how about the top 3 important ppl in the eve universe?. we could make lists of the top 3 most important alt posters it could only improve the thread
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:44:00 - [192] Sup alt poster Murina
ceyriot Minmatar Crimson Rebellion	Posted - 2008.02.07 04:48:00 - [193] Originally by: Aprudena Gist Originally by: ceyriot Tri CAN and only MIGHT be a superpower if a couple things i see coming happen... 1. The goon coalition kills BoB 2. Nobody ****es off goon/allies for a couple weeks 3. The goon coalition dissolves into a civil war 4. Tri comes in with guns blazing. you really think tri will win a pos war? They have a lot of time to learn...if they don't, dosn't really matter, you can replace Tri in nuber 4 with any other alliance, i just favor tri. Sig removed. Political references are not permitted in signatures. If you would like further details please email [email protected]. ~Saint
Moon Kitten GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 21:46:00 - [194] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:39:45 Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 14:29:41 Originally by: HEY LISTEN In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. Tell that to ASCN or D2. Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. Has been a shame that the BoB leaders can't lead their pilots in a more professional and dedicated manner. It's not that BoB can't fight back, it seems to me that the leaders is unable to formulate plans as the situation changes and this will be the reason that their fleets are spread all over EVE attacking empty space or targeting systems that have no effect on Goons. Was a good read and it just a shame that it's going to be dis-credited by alts and Goon haters. If I was on the receiving end of this I would be demanding answers and results instead of excepting the lies. I honestly hope that the BoB leaders can accept they're failing and start performing for their followers. We've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence. Oh, yes. Everything is going according to plan. Those fools, they think they can win... by winning.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:11:00 - [195] Edited by: TWD on 07/02/2008 22:11:11 Hey niCE fight in qy6 earlier btws! That saved some capital pilots from having to ctrl+q their way out of qy6! That trick of login/logoff we learned from the coalition almost a year ago in F-T. Thanks for that!
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:13:00 - [196] I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down. BoB have been rather quiet on eve-o lately with large portions of their cap fleet trapped in a system. I think the future of eve will be continuous warfare and will be defined by the ability to be able to field some sort of pvp gang or fleet during all timezones. Let the fun begin. Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:13:00 - [197] Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down. BoB have been rather quiet on eve-o lately with large portions of their cap fleet trapped in a system. I think the future of eve will be continuous warfare and will be defined by the ability to be able to field some sort of pvp gang or fleet during all timezones. Let the fun begin. damn did you just get owned by my post above yours.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 - [198] Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down. i vote for HEY LISTEN as well.
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 - [199] Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 07/02/2008 22:11:11 Hey niCE fight in qy6 earlier btws! That saved some capital pilots from having to ctrl+q their way out of qy6! That trick of login/logoff we learned from the coalition almost a year ago in F-T. Thanks for that! TWD is our strategist. Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 - [200] I vote for HEY LISTEN too.
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:15:00 - [201] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down. BoB have been rather quiet on eve-o lately with large portions of their cap fleet trapped in a system. I think the future of eve will be continuous warfare and will be defined by the ability to be able to field some sort of pvp gang or fleet during all timezones. Let the fun begin. damn did you just get owned by my post above yours. It's hilarious, but I'm just a stupid goon. Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:16:00 - [202] I don't blame you
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:21:00 - [203] Originally by: TWD I don't blame you Did you save Siddy from breaking his furry e-honor? Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.08 04:56:00 - [204] tri have no intrest in this great war. all we want is pvp.
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.08 08:05:00 - [205] Originally by: Devian 666 Originally by: TWD I don't blame you Did you save Siddy from breaking his furry e-honor? :siren: stop posting :siren: this goes for everyone in IGNE that is not named Aaron Static. ~ no not believin in urself ~
Jebidus Skari Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.08 11:13:00 - [206] Its not about becoming a super power as such, I dont think Tri want to own the whole map we are more than happy where we are. However its about the fights, the odds of being outnumbered and still coming out on top. We can field small skirmish gangs and large fleets when required. We very rarely duck from a fight even if outnumbered 3:1. Its all about pvp and playing and enjoying the game for that reason.
Malaphar Amarr W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 12:18:00 - [207] IMHO , I don't think there is any formula which would assure an Alliance of any kind indefinite domination over the world of EVE.At least , as I said , not on long term. Sheer numbers ensured ASCN domination of the South for SOME PERIOD of time.The same sheer numbers will ensure Goonswarm domination over the same South (and maybe even more) also for a CERTAIN PERIOD of time. PvP experience , great leadership skills , unique capital fleet and also incredible Production/Manufacturing skills and experience ensured BoB the longest (timewise) domination of both North and South regions.But , as long as it lasted , it did come to and end nowadays as they are limited atm to , say , 90% of Delve (only 1 region). Tricky tactics , backstabbing and great capital fleet ensures Red Alliance domination for their region of space but it also proved to be mere temporary. Both BoB and RA had/have impressive Logistics support and diplomacy skills (many times more than "questionable") but this doesn't ensure LONG TERM domination of EVE either! If I may say an oppinion , the ONLY things that can ensure an Alliance LONGer THAN AVERAGE TERM domination are : 1.The most important : ACTIVITY and DEDICATION of Alliance people , of its ranks. It doesn't matter if an Alliance has 5000 members or 500 members , what REALLY MATTERS is how many are online at any given moment for the Alliance. Example : Goonswarm has maybe more than 6000 members ,but you can NEVER find more than 300-400 online in fleet opperations. BoB has around 2500 members , but you can always see 250-300 online for Alliance operations. But even that , 10% of all ranks , are not even close to enough. The real superpower will be that Alliance with say,1000 members , and with 500-600 of them online for the operations and ANY GIVEN TIME! The PvP experience is not crucial : people will get that experience in time , they are meant to learn - that's EVE all about The Logistics support is not crucial at the beginning : with more than 50%-60% members online at any given time , that will surely be covered. Cap Fleet ? That also comes in time , gradually! IF such an Alliance will succesfully manage to keep at least 50%-60% of its members ACTIVE,ONLINE and DEDICATED , it will achieve more than BoB+RAGOON altogether! Just my humble oppinion! Quote: Meet the best , die like the rest!

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