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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:37:00 -
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Just a clever troll trap that worked :D ------
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Jhyme
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:38:00 -
[32]
nice troll, rated 4/5 stars
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Dog Solitude
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada Just a clever troll trap that worked :D
Oh thank god for that.
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Mik kyo
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:39:00 -
[34]
still failing i see
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 08/02/2008 02:39:59
Originally by: Dog Solitude Just to clarify, this thread is about goons pvp ability?
The thread is a page long and actualy exists unlike goons pvp skill so i doubt it.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:41:00 -
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rgreat
Gallente OEG Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:50:00 -
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Edited by: rgreat on 08/02/2008 02:52:31
RA Board have points system. Points split equaly among all participants in kill.
While lost points are your lost only.
So usually it like 10 kills = 1 loss in points if you fly in gang.
It is pretty pretty easy and accurate to track efficiency with this system, no matter how many alliances or people involved. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Jason Travers
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:53:00 -
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Well I personally havenÆt had a run-in with BoB but I do know their type. IÆve dealt with their kind of corp in other MMOÆs and never did like it. I think it would be funny to see all alliances drop their current wars and band up in an all out assault against them. I mean run threw every bit of space they have destroying everything they have all their stations modules ships everything. I would be willing to bet that if it was to happen even some of the industrial and mining corps would probability pitch in with ships and such to help fund the war effort.
I could just read the headlines BoB gets Blobbed. The once all powerful corporation of EvE causes a galactic rebellion and their demise.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Travers Well I personally havenÆt had a run-in with BoB but I do know their type. IÆve dealt with their kind of corp in other MMOÆs and never did like it. I think it would be funny to see all alliances drop their current wars and band up in an all out assault against them. I mean run threw every bit of space they have destroying everything they have all their stations modules ships everything.
WTF do you think is happening?.
Virtualy every 0.0 alliance in eve is fighting them do you not read the forums at all?.
PS; obviously not cos your corp ticker is off so your gonna get your post deleted.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dog Solitude Just to clarify, this thread is about goons pvp ability?
More like my, not so, stealthy way of highlighting Igne's killer efficiency versus BoB, I think.
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Dog Solitude
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.02.08 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Travers Well I personally haven’t had a run-in with BoB but I do know their type. I’ve dealt with their kind of corp in other MMO’s and never did like it. I think it would be funny to see all alliances drop their current wars and band up in an all out assault against them. I mean run threw every bit of space they have destroying everything they have all their stations modules ships everything. I would be willing to bet that if it was to happen even some of the industrial and mining corps would probability pitch in with ships and such to help fund the war effort.
I could just read the headlines BoB gets Blobbed. The once all powerful corporation of EvE causes a galactic rebellion and their demise.
Oh man, that would be friggin sweet...
Wait...
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mik kyo still failing i see
Hey Mik. Do you still bring a tanked autocannon Claw to duel an Ares?
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titanstory
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.08 03:16:00 -
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a lot of bob's loose are not posted btw.
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Keeto
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.08 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Travers Well I personally havenÆt had a run-in with BoB but I do know their type. IÆve dealt with their kind of corp in other MMOÆs and never did like it. I think it would be funny to see all alliances drop their current wars and band up in an all out assault against them. I mean run threw every bit of space they have destroying everything they have all their stations modules ships everything. I would be willing to bet that if it was to happen even some of the industrial and mining corps would probability pitch in with ships and such to help fund the war effort.
You mean like, for instance.... GS/RA/TCF/IAC/MM/MC/ev0ke/IRON/RZR/PL/others vs bob?
Yah that would be pretty neat, maybe someday.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.02.08 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal (Well ok, I will ignore for a while the fact that the whole idea of chestbeating about your "k/d ratio" is for people who play "Counterstrike in space" which is silly and not what Eve is about. But anyway... )
It seems that BoB lately (perhaps in lack of any other possible in-game achievements to brag about at all) have been endlessly bringing up their vaunted "k/d ratio" to (I guess) somehow attempt to prove that they are better than the alliances that have been fighting them despite their losses to those alliances. So, I thought I should look into this a little further and see if it really is all it is *****ed up to be. Unfortunately, doing so I ran into a problem. While BoB's killboard will show isk efficiency (which really is the only reliable measure here) for individual pilots, it does NOT do so for corps and alliances. It will only show number of ships lost and number of ships killed.
But since BoB aren't the only ones to have killboards we can look at their opponents' killboards (who mostly are the normal killboard style) and get a bit of perpective at BoB's real k/d. Below are the numbers for a few of them. (I thought of using battleclinic as well, however it shows them as having a near 0% ISK efficiency, so I will be nice and charitable and refrain from doing so.) The ones listed below are first the corp I'm in and then those alliances I could think of that are actively involved in fighting BoB and have killboards that show ISK efficiency.
Anyway, BoB's ISK efficiency versus...
Igneus Auctorita: 9.82% (ouch... I'm confused. I was told BoB was better than us....)
IRON: 34.2% Tau Ceti Federation: 44.56% Razor: 47.95% Mostly Harmless: 49.81 Pure : 53.81% Morsus Mihi: 57.12%
Aren't those wildly flawed though since all alliances attacking BoB gets full credit for a capital kill, even with just a puny frigate in on it?
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Jason Travers
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:07:00 -
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I mean like all alliances currently drop and form one large alliance and all mass up and make a super armada and go threw their systems destroying them in one to two days.
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Dog Solitude
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Travers I mean like all alliances currently drop and form one large alliance and all mass up and make a super armada and go threw their systems destroying them in one to two days.
yeah. Though it would be cool if it was called more of a "coalition" rather than a "large alliance". The word coalition sounds more...morally bound.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 08/02/2008 04:13:54
Originally by: Jason Travers I mean like all alliances currently drop and form one large alliance and all mass up and make a super armada and go threw their systems destroying them in one to two days.
Do you work for ccp in the "there is no lag" department or are you a total noob?.
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Jason Travers
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:32:00 -
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I forgot about the lag issue. but corridnated attacks. everything cant be protected at once.
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Drone Spammer
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:33:00 -
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^ its machinegun wielding bear cavalry in space ! ^
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Smithers
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.08 04:44:00 -
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Who let the goon pubby off his leash? :/
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 05:09:00 -
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Who let the BoB B-team alt off his leash? :/ |
Smithers
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.08 05:27:00 -
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I like the S-Team better
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Dangerously Cheesey
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Originally by: Jason Travers Well I personally havenÆt had a run-in with BoB but I do know their type. IÆve dealt with their kind of corp in other MMOÆs and never did like it. I think it would be funny to see all alliances drop their current wars and band up in an all out assault against them. I mean run threw every bit of space they have destroying everything they have all their stations modules ships everything.
WTF do you think is happening?.
Virtualy every 0.0 alliance in eve is fighting them do you not read the forums at all?.
PS; obviously not cos your corp ticker is off so your gonna get your post deleted.
This whole "BoB is all alone against the whole of 0.0 and never had any allies hurf blurf" angle is very amusing and I think a pretty solid way to go excuse wise.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 05:52:00 -
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any bob playing the 'poor us we are all ganged up on ;_;' card non-ironically better hope that people have some really short memories
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.02.08 06:22:00 -
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K/D ratio is completely irrelevant. Even the dispersion of losses through many alliances as Darko pointed out is not really a factor IMO. What counts is the willingness to sustain losses, which greatly depends on the estimated chance of eventual success.
In the past BoB succeeded to convince many of their enemies that fighting was futile throught their K/D ratio, but I think it is safe to say that the Coalition is rightfully confident that they are pretty much gonna win this.
It might take a lot of time and effort still, but there is nothing blocking their victory that they can't handle. As a result, a bad K/D ratio for the Coalition means nothing in terms of morale anymore. For BoB, I don't know what it does to their morale, but it doesn't really matter either because the forces they face are so large that even with high morale their chances of winning are zero.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal rabble
yes, theyre the ones who are constantly bringing up k/d ratio's, coming from the person who created a topic about it.
sure, bob may rarely post on the boards these days. that side note aside its obviously them, the ones who arent posting consistently bringing it up.
one thing is for sure though, it is most certainly not their said enemy's repeatedly bringing up this subject trying to compensate for any short comings.
its ok though. in a game based around pvp, ratios in that said field is definitely not a indicator at pvp ability. kinda like alterac valley, whoever can kill drek or vandaar first is the best at pvp, right? silly cs players. /high five
side note though, do those alliances you got your data from use api keys to automatically record kills and loss's? after all loss's are much easier to forget about than say...kills. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
Lucas Avignon
Avignon Associates Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.08 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii in a game based around pvp, ratios in that said field is definitely not a indicator at pvp ability.
You do realise how ridiculously stupid that sounds, or are you so bad at computer games that you tell that to yourself to make you feel better?
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lucas Avignon
Originally by: fugazii in a game based around pvp, ratios in that said field is definitely not a indicator at pvp ability.
You do realise how ridiculously stupid that sounds, or are you so bad at computer games that you tell that to yourself to make you feel better?
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: TWD If there is a gang of 20 people from 20 different alliances and they lose 10 ships and all participated in 2 kills against 1 alliance, its pretty easy to get a pretty good K/D ratio per alliance as they lost 1 ship max and still got in on 2 kills.
In this case the K/D ratio is useless!
However!
If you look at a fight in general and include all the kills and losses of all alliances involved it is useful to see what the result was and the numbers involved.
Gotta agree with TWD, it's what i tried to explain to Legionari (some BoB pets/fanbois) who were bragging about their kills while in fleet with BoB -clp
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