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Keraa Minmatar Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.12 04:36:00 - [31] I am a nOOb. Just turned a month old. I appreciate this info very much Sid. Glad you got them back by saving your ship
Lief Siddhe University of Caille	Posted - 2008.02.12 05:05:00 - [32] Lakut wins. Flawless victory. --- Beneath all of our differences there's a single bond between every living Gallentean that makes us hard as diamond: a love of freedom.
Caliwyrm O'Libr Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.12 05:42:00 - [33] It amazes me that they nerf the Privateers yet leave stuff like this in the game. ======= Talk is cheap because supply always outweighs demand..
Poreuomai Minmatar Naval Protection Corp Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2008.02.12 13:37:00 - [34] You survived, that's what counts. Having said that, wouldn't 'leave fleet' have been better - as you would still be logged on if they had got a shot in at the last moment?
In General No Quarter. Academy Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.02.12 14:28:00 - [35] Logoffski eh? I wonder do you cheat at patience as well?
Spc One	Posted - 2008.02.12 15:09:00 - [36] What does it happen if you logout when in space ? Do your ship in space dissappear ?
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.12 15:18:00 - [37] Originally by: Spc One What does it happen if you logout when in space ? Do your ship in space dissappear ? Not if someone has aggro on you. They have a short time to probe you down and blow you up. ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
In General No Quarter. Academy Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.02.12 15:40:00 - [38] Originally by: Agent Li Originally by: Spc One What does it happen if you logout when in space ? Do your ship in space dissappear ? Not if someone has aggro on you. They have a short time to probe you down and blow you up. But your honour dissappears with your ship.
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.12 15:50:00 - [39] Originally by: In General But your honour dissappears with your ship. That goes without saying... ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Voidson	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:18:00 - [40] Originally by: In General But your honour dissappears with your ship. So it's better to lose a billion isk to a metagame scam, than use a meta-mechanic to get out of it? I don't know seems like lame tactic meets lame countertactic for the wash. Working as intended?
In General No Quarter. Academy Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:23:00 - [41] Originally by: Voidson Originally by: In General But your honour dissappears with your ship. So it's better to lose a billion isk to a metagame scam, than use a meta-mechanic to get out of it? I don't know seems like lame tactic meets lame countertactic for the wash. Working as intended? Either you switched off the warning or ignored it when joining the gang. This is a pvp game where scamming and scenarios that lead to conflict and combat are actively encouraged. Scamming may not be pleasent but it is a part of the game! Logoffski on the otherhand is fail. Nothing stopping you doing it and as I pointed outearlier with my patience ananolgy, you are only fooling yourself.....
Voidson	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:39:00 - [42] Edited by: Voidson on 12/02/2008 16:39:33 Logoffski on the otherhand is fail. Nothing stopping you doing it and as I pointed outearlier with my patience ananolgy, you are only fooling yourself..... Hmnnn... seems like both groups were just: http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm and the Logoffski tactic won...
Polardegos Gallente Venom.	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:53:00 - [43] A follow-up question to this; what would have happened if the OP had gotten aggro on him, then quit the fleet, seeing "this is trouble, they can still shoot at me", and forms his own fleet with corpmates? Would these corpmates be able to help him, or would they be fried by Concord for trying? Reason I ask is; making a trap. You answer the call for "help", knowing that it might be a lofty, and get your own buddies ready and able, and on seeing it is a lofty, you do as described above. Possible?
Yakoff Star Scream Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.12 20:25:00 - [44] Edited by: Yakoff on 12/02/2008 20:28:24 So the advice in this story is.... I become good samaritan and offer to help someone. Join gang. Let guy warp us, I keep watching fleet window and if I see new person come into fleet, I leave fleet. Or better yet, just as the fleet leader warps us, I just leave fleet immediately. In either case, I come out of warp where this supposed mission or a trap is (no longer in fleet). If it is an actual mission, I can help out and still be the good samaritan. If my suspiscions were true, I will watch concord blow up the attackers (if they fell into their own trap), and get their shiney loot.
Grim Starwind	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:34:00 - [45] Originally by: O' GingerOne Edited by: O'' GingerOne on 10/02/2008 17:56:45 Originally by: Shiner BockBeer Edited by: Shiner BockBeer on 10/02/2008 00:50:28 You've almost got the scam right, but you're just a little off. The three ships waiting for you were in their own fleet and they are in a corp that declared war on the player who asked you for help. Since you're in a fleet with the original player, they get the right to shoot you because of the war. They would not join the fleet you were in. Leaving the fleet doesn't stop their right to kill you if they fire before you leave the fleet. Logging before they shoot you is the only thing you could have done. Lofty29 used to do this regularly and made a lot of money blowing up nicely fitted CNRs just like yours. In the future don't forget to read the warning that pops up on a gang invite that says "Really join warring gang?" The OP had its a million times closer than you my friend. After reading this thread ive come to realise your all stupid. The only person in here that i can still show to respect too is the guy that got away. Well done, your in a small minority As for bryg, you seem to be part of the growing community in eve that thinks they know everything and for some reason, are due more than others. If you want to call somewhere your "home-system" maybe you should do somthing to earn it, rather than just being a mouthy nobody. /Alt. That's why I stopped using the EVE-O forums and only came back today for a lil look. Because 95% of the people here are only here to flame and or ***** about another player or flash their e-peens. You'll find that most of the people that act tough on the forum are generally hiding somewhere in the game and are the ones that smalk talk in local =) Infact, I'm not gonna check this thread again and I bet I'll get some of the losers post replies here looking something like this - "Omgz liek bbqsticks i'll shows u whos da n00b in teh statonz. come 2 my home system where me and my 5 m8s will jump you 'n shwz you our pwers!!11!lol1!"
S1d Vicious	Posted - 2008.02.13 22:34:00 - [46] Funny how people have reacted to this thread. To all those that have responded positively with constructive comment, thank you. The whole point of this post (and I will say it again for the hundredth time) was to alert people to a scam that is doing the rounds in a street near you. To all those that have screamed Logoffski, Failed, Dishonoured, OMG Uber Lameness - get over it and take it like a man. Crawl out of that gutter grow a spine and develop something that isn't lower than a rattlesnake's belly and I might just accept your criticisms. The bottom line here is simply this. If this post makes just ONE PLAYER think twice BEFORE accepting that call for help out of the blue then in my book, its objective achieved - tick in the box. Regards S1d
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2008.02.14 02:06:00 - [47] Originally by: Polardegos A follow-up question to this; what would have happened if the OP had gotten aggro on him, then quit the fleet, seeing "this is trouble, they can still shoot at me", and forms his own fleet with corpmates? Would these corpmates be able to help him, or would they be fried by Concord for trying? Reason I ask is; making a trap. You answer the call for "help", knowing that it might be a lofty, and get your own buddies ready and able, and on seeing it is a lofty, you do as described above. Possible? They would be concordokken. The flags would work like this in this particular situation: You are in a fleet with a person at war. That means you are a valid target to the warring corporation(s). This supercedes the normal aggress-me-you-turn-flashy-to-my-corp thing. The only flag thrown is aggression towards the individual. Once you leave the fleet and form up your own with your corpmates, your corpmates warp in to find three yellow guys shooting at you. If the yellow guys were valid targets, they would be flashing red, not solid yellow. That is because the corp aggression flag wasn't thrown. Same thing happens to pirates and PvPers in low sec- they are a flashy red outlaw, someone engages them at a gate. There are no gate guns involved, but their corpmates can't fire at the aggressor without taking sentry fire and GCC; the outlaw flag on the pirate was there first, and supercedes the other flag. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
I SoStoned	Posted - 2008.02.14 11:55:00 - [48] Sheesh... this is nothing new. The guy who brought me into the game [i]4 years ago[/i/ gave me a very stern warning about gangs and wars (back then just being in a gang ment someone could shoot you without Concordoken). I've seen it done many times. Been the 'dupe', too, with three corpmates on the opposite gate to the system. It ended up being 7 on 4 and we lost, though. The scammer fled as soon as my corpies jumped in system, and 5 of them went down in the fight. Their BB managed to survive. :/ No faction gear, but lots of T2 when T2 had value.
Dungheap Caldari Dragon's Rage	Posted - 2008.02.14 13:51:00 - [49] unfortunate that players really needing help will be less likely to get it due to this tactic. as explained in other threads, if you want to help someone, you send the invite and form the fleet. don't put the other person in a command position like squad lead where they can send invites. loggoff was a bit cheesy, but worth it to hear the cries of outrage from those too dense or lazy to come up with an original idea of their own. i'm told pirate tears are the very sweetest kind...
Rua Cloak and Daggers	Posted - 2008.02.14 13:57:00 - [50] Edited by: Rua on 14/02/2008 13:57:23 Oh hey cool, so if someone else is being lame, then I can be lame too and still hold the moral high ground? Sweet.
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.14 16:25:00 - [51] Originally by: S1d Vicious To all those that have screamed Logoffski, Failed, Dishonoured, OMG Uber Lameness - get over it and take it like a man. Crawl out of that gutter grow a spine and develop something that isn't lower than a rattlesnake's belly and I might just accept your criticisms. Funny you talk like that. About "spine" and "take it like a man" Remember ? Your the one logged off and cheated your way out of your problem. Tbh i am slowly start to think your the kind of player who wants to show the little helpless newbie how great and wtfpwn you and your CNR are. Looks like you got your ass handed to you while doing so.
Yakoff Star Scream Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.14 17:40:00 - [52] Edited by: Yakoff on 14/02/2008 17:41:55 Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: S1d Vicious To all those that have screamed Logoffski, Failed, Dishonoured, OMG Uber Lameness - get over it and take it like a man. Crawl out of that gutter grow a spine and develop something that isn't lower than a rattlesnake's belly and I might just accept your criticisms. Funny you talk like that. About "spine" and "take it like a man" Remember ? Your the one logged off and cheated your way out of your problem. TBH, I am slowly start to think your the kind of player who wants to show the little helpless newbie how great and wtfpwn you and your CNR are. Looks like you got your ass handed to you while doing so. I am sorry, explain to me how he cheated his way out? He used a valid tactic in which CCP itself said that this is not an exploit. Just like what the lame pirates tried to do was just as lame - but not an exploit either. BTW, for those saying his honor has been lost. I think the fact that he has come on this forum and posted this scam (under trolling and flame) has allowed his honor to grow. If only other people were more thick-skinned to give their experiences over the internet on how there are so many dupes out there.
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.14 18:03:00 - [53] Originally by: Yakoff I am sorry, explain to me how he cheated his way out? He used a valid tactic in which CCP itself said that this is not an exploit. Just like what the lame pirates tried to do was just as lame - but not an exploit either. You are you playing a online-game in which you have to compete with other players, if you log out at the first sign of trouble, your using a cheap way to get out of trouble. Which ruins the whole purpose to play with other people. Originally by: Yakoff BTW, for those saying his honor has been lost. I think the fact that he has come on this forum and posted this scam (under trolling and flame) has allowed his honor to grow. If only other people were more thick-skinned to give their experiences over the internet on how there are so many dupes out there. Yeah honor to the thick skinned alt. Praise his balls likes steel to come to the forum and post about stuff wich happend to his main.
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Gallente MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.02.14 18:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Yakoff Edited by: Yakoff on 14/02/2008 17:41:55 Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: S1d Vicious To all those that have screamed Logoffski, Failed, Dishonoured, OMG Uber Lameness - get over it and take it like a man. Crawl out of that gutter grow a spine and develop something that isn't lower than a rattlesnake's belly and I might just accept your criticisms. Funny you talk like that. About "spine" and "take it like a man" Remember ? Your the one logged off and cheated your way out of your problem. TBH, I am slowly start to think your the kind of player who wants to show the little helpless newbie how great and wtfpwn you and your CNR are. Looks like you got your ass handed to you while doing so. I am sorry, explain to me how he cheated his way out? He used a valid tactic in which CCP itself said that this is not an exploit. Just like what the lame pirates tried to do was just as lame - but not an exploit either. the only reason its NOT considered an exploit by ccp is because it is impossible to monitor and therefore police because ccp does not know what is going on in RL at your monitor. I dont think a gm nor a dev would applaud the OP for this "meta-mechanic/exploit". Tbh I think they would be rolling their eyes. As for the lofty trick- yep pretty lame but still "valid" in my opinion as it is indeed utilising the game mechanics as opposed to logoffski which is basically eliminating your ship from the game dimension. The equivalent is covering your eyes and saying "I cant see you- you cant see me", which is bs. Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag
Yakoff Star Scream Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.14 19:17:00 - [55] If this were a logoffski in 0.0 or low sec, I would agree that logging off is lame. However (of course this is my opinion), high sec is SAFER. Yes, not necessarily safe. He wanted to be helpful, however there are lots of people trying to take advantage of game mechanics to one up someone in high sec. In this case, he was tricked into going into a situation where it was many vs 1 in high sec where he had no chance to defend himself due to a cheap trick.
Sir Toadalot Caldari Exiled.	Posted - 2008.02.14 19:57:00 - [56] Edited by: Sir Toadalot on 14/02/2008 19:58:35 i cannot believe what i have been reading! How is the "lofty" trick considered to be exploiting game mechanics, or even taking advantage of game mechanics, its purely just: PLAYING THE ******* GAME! im totaly stunned that just becuase you dont like it, you think its not meant to be part of the game or some sort of "loop-hole". At the end of the day, the person that gets killed cant blame anyone but themselves! If you get outsmarted, its your fault, dont go crying about it, get overyourself! "Its taking advantage" "Its a cheap trick" "its lame" "zomg exploit" or.... maybe... your just to dumb to understand the game you think you know 'oh so well'. If you dont get concorded, its not an exploit! ITS PART OF THE GAME! ---------------------------------- My actions have nothing to do with my corp. So if you dont like what i just did, tough.
S1d Vicious	Posted - 2008.02.15 00:56:00 - [57] Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: S1d Vicious To all those that have screamed Logoffski, Failed, Dishonoured, OMG Uber Lameness - get over it and take it like a man. Crawl out of that gutter grow a spine and develop something that isn't lower than a rattlesnake's belly and I might just accept your criticisms. Funny you talk like that. About "spine" and "take it like a man" Remember ? Your the one logged off and cheated your way out of your problem. Tbh i am slowly start to think your the kind of player who wants to show the little helpless newbie how great and wtfpwn you and your CNR are. Looks like you got your ass handed to you while doing so. It pains me to dignify this with a response, but I will because I like you. Nowadays my time in eve is split between trade and manufacturing and yes, I frequently help those less able than me. I feel a sense of pride and achievement in giving rather than taking. Can you get your head around that concept? Doubtful. Instead I'm sure it floats your boat to sit with your 'hard' mates ganking industrials and shuttles that unwittingly stray into 0.4 or, suicide gank outside busy trade hubs. And just how exactly did my ass get handed to me again? I must have missed your reasoned and supported argument on that one.

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